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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 29, 2022, 02:00:27 PM
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Unchanged. Good.
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Brave, but in a good way.
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Come on Villa boys fight for your places when Unai is here.
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COYL!
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the right decision. Let's go out to try to win this game. No fear. Newcastle's side is very confident but is't filled with superstars. We can certainly get something from this game. Good to Digne back on the bench.
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Tough game today but like the line up and more important than the result (today) is an assured performance that gives us hope last week wasn’t a one off. If we go down by the odd goal up there given their form, but show we can compete, fair enough - a win would be a huge bonus really.
With Unai landing Monday, we are on our way back.
UTV
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If it ain't broke, may as well try and maintain a 100% win record.
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Come on boys..
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More of the same, please, Villa. Can't argue, none of the five subs last week came close to doing enough to oust any of the starting eleven. If we get an early penalty, let's make sure we score it, eh lads.
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If it ain't bloody broke, don't knobbing fix it. Let's hope it works again. And nice to see Digne on the bench.
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Would have thought fairly easy decision to keep the same side, good to see Digne fit again.
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Like it. Let's do 'em.
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Good.
Who is the chap doing the cringeworthy, over the top gesture on the Newcastle team sheet?
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FTGF!
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Good.
Who is the chap doing the cringeworthy, over the top gesture on the Newcastle team sheet?
Dan Burn.
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Fr Dick Burn
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Come on, lets show them that Jack was right about Miggy Almiron. Don't have him do a Joe Willock and score in 9 games in a row or whatever.
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They’ve been doing the same old shit on Soccer Saturday about how disgraceful it was that we turned up against Brentford. Why do these fools not get it? Also has there ever been this much scrutiny on players when a manager has been sacked?!
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Fr Dick Burn
Even looks a bit like him! Albeit much taller.
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Good.
Who is the chap doing the cringeworthy, over the top gesture on the Newcastle team sheet?
Dan Burn.
Jesus. Have never heard of him. Must be decent considering the run they've been on, I suppose.
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Avoiding defeat would be a good result here.
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Avoiding defeat would be a good result here.
a good 3 nil win would be even better though
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Don't like Newcastle and how tinpot they are. Unbelievable atmosphere? Yeah right.
Come on Villa. Fuck this lot.
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Looks like they're playing in a cup final. FFS, tone it down a wee bit pet. And then they get upset when everybody takes the piss.
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Are there any free flowing rivers around please?
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VTID...Let's fuckin do em villa. Please
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Are there any free flowing rivers around please?
....me too if possible!
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Have had to turn the commentary off on this.
Jesus Christ. When Newcastle play Liverpool, the commentators must be wanking themselves silly about who the greatest fans in the world are.
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Are there any free flowing rivers around please?
....me too if possible!
I would also like to know the whereabouts of any of these please
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ive got a link to several rivers
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Found a few links, but stream keeps dropping. Anyone got anything more reliable please?
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Never a foul that.
Ref is quite clearly dreadful.
Come on Villa!
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Yes please, me as well.
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Found a few links, but stream keeps dropping. Anyone got anything more reliable please?
Same problem for me.
Any reliable streams please?
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Found a few links, but stream keeps dropping. Anyone got anything more reliable please?
Same problem for me.
Any reliable streams please?
Stopped using streams and gone full 50gbp pr month grrrr
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Can anybody send me a little trickle via DM. My usual puddles are playing up.
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Can anybody send me a little trickle via DM. My usual puddles are playing up.
Same for me please, thanks.
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Newcastle are well on top here.
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Ok I’ve got a puddle dm me and I’ll flick to you.
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Most of their better stuff coming down or left.
Young out of position a bit too often for me so far.
We're doing ok though.
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Emi with a save
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Fairly even but Trippier is getting in behind too often.
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Emi still down.
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Emi still down.
Let's hope its Emi's shithousery. Take the heat out their pressure
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Emi is carrying on. Be interesting if they add the full 5 mins he was down.
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And still down
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I’m highly suspicious of concussion protocol here.
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Ooooh a chance
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The other Emi is down now.
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Buendia should have done better there.
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Badly injured possibly from that.
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Seemed to be a fair few twats behind Emi's goal.
What on earth is wrong with people.
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And is still down
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I would be embarrassed if my team's supporters booed an injured player like that
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Bailey did well there, but had his shirt pulled and had he gone down it might've been a penalty
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great wing play from Bailey
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I would be embarrassed if my team's supporters booed an injured player like that
Disgusting
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I would be embarrassed if my team's supporters booed an injured player like that
We absolutely slaughtered Terry when he was crocked one game.
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Emi2 also carrying on
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Newcastle fans are right idiots, of course we're wasting time with concussion and knee injuries...
Goes like clockwork this. Get an excellent manager in and of course our best players will start getting injured.
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I would be embarrassed if my team's supporters booed an injured player like that
We absolutely slaughtered Terry when he was crocked one game.
That's different 🤣
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All the Emi’s are taking a beating here.
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Fuck off denizens of Newcastle.
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These barcode fans are a disgrace with the booing. Twats.
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We are playing some nice stuff
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That Watkins miss is why Archer should play
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Giving a shit about them booing is on a par with getting worked up over a couple of banners.
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Fuck off denizens of Newcastle.
Denizen Dan Burn, Dick's nephew.
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Watkins lack of composure there was comical. Just swung his leg at it!
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Luiz having a decent game
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Peak Ollie there miskicking.
So many of our players simply can't compose themselves at crucial times. Even Buendia when he got crocked should've got the shot first time.
In better news Doug is having a stormer.
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Newcastle fans = bellends. Are they still sore about the Ant and Dec thing?
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Emi saves and stays down again.
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Who's the female commentator?
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Emi1 coming off.
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Convinced Ollie Watkins doesn’t have a brain. At least not a footballing one. He may be brilliant at algebra.
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Fuck me Emi coming off
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It is fucking ridiculous we let Emi stay on.
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Going to have to take Emi off.
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Who's the female commentator?
I had to turn it off after about a minute.
She was dreadful.
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Who's the female commentator?
Dunno but she’s doing my fucking head in
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Our medical staff are fucking idiots
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Emi is fucked. I had concussion a couple of months ago. It fucked me up for a fortnight. Never really understood it until I had it.
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Who's the female commentator?
Eilidh Barbour. Can't pronounce Martínez's name properly either, like most Brits.
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That's a big blow.
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Our medical staff are fucking idiots
Indeed - he should have been off straight away.
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Should be at least 8 mins added time so far, be interesting how much there actually is.
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Always, fucking always our best/most influential players that get injured.
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Who's the female commentator?
Dunno but she’s doing my fucking head in
She's awful
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I'd take a draw right now.
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Geordie fans really are the scum of the earth. It’s so obvious he’s concussed
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The commentary I’m listening too is dreadful. The most dreary man I’ve ever listened too.
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Spinkesque performance needed from Olsen
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Olsen not being ready to come on isn't a great sign.
Hope he's not alert during the actual game.
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Who's the female commentator?
Dunno but she’s doing my fucking head in
She's awful
It's on WM or Talksport 2.
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Who's the female commentator?
Eilidh Barbour. Can't pronounce Martínez's name properly either, like most Brits.
She's a knob, reckons that's a pen on Wilson? Not even close.
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Who's the female commentator?
Dunno but she’s doing my fucking head in
She's awful
It's on WM or Talksport 2.
I’d rather listen to this useless pair than put WM or Talksport on
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Sounds like I am blessed with Danish commentary 🤯
Danish Villain will understand what i mean
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*She's the 5Live reporter, I don't have a stream of the game
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So sloppy in the final third.
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Who's the female commentator?
Dunno but she’s doing my fucking head in
She's awful
It's on WM or Talksport 2.
I’d rather listen to this useless pair than put WM or Talksport on
I literally jumped into the thread to say the same thing. My god she is absolute shite. Negative and pointless comments every 30 seconds.
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Like Axl I have had to turn off the sound. She is unbearable.
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Olsen with a save
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Great save Olsen.
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Newcastle supporters are gross.
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10 mins added time
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Great save Olsen
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Sorry to say, Ollie is crap
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The Brazilian national coach is in attendance. Is Duggee doing well?
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Get rid of this woman now!!!
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Newcastle supporters are gross.
I suppose now they've got their dirty oil money backing, they think they're entitled to win every game.
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The Brazilian national coach is in attendance. Is Duggee doing well?
One of our best
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Penalty Newcastle
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Bollocks
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1-0 Newcastle
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Commentator bias is out of control.
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I despise Newcastle
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Forgot how much I hate Newcastle.
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I tell you what. This Newcastle team is pretty average.
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Was it actually a handball and was it avoidable? I hate giving soft pens away.
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Try talksport 2
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And Wilson, Almiron, Trippier,
Fuck them all. A horrible club with horrible fans
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Ash has been given the runaround down their right. Love him and what he’s done but he’s being exposed today
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Commentator bias is out of control.
Yes. Can't quite remember anything like it.
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Was it actually a handball and was it avoidable? I hate giving soft pens away.
Stone wall penalty
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nice to hear totally neutral commentators
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Was it actually a handball and was it avoidable? I hate giving soft pens away.
Young sliding in to block, whole arm vertical in the air. Was a nailed on pen based on todays rules.
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Why's Southgate laughing and high fiving? Ugly horsefaced gimp.
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Commentator bias is out of control.
Yes. Can't quite remember anything like it.
Utterly embarrassing
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Was it actually a handball and was it avoidable? I hate giving soft pens away.
It was handball under the rules. Ash just unlucky
Tell you what though get a goal and I’m not sure they will come back
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Why's Southgate laughing and high fiving? Ugly horsefaced gimp.
He’s a fraud. Laughing because he’s collecting a huge pay cheque for being shit.
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Yeah, i'd be getting Digne on at half time.
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Human rights abusers.
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Commentator bias is out of control.
Yes. Can't quite remember anything like it.
Utterly embarrassing
They are gagging to say 'toon army' aren't they? Wankers.
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Clear pen.
They've really exposed Young on that side. Other than that we've been solid.
Ollie though...so many moves break down at his feet and he generally has air of someone who isn't awake half the time on the pitch. He won't be a regular in six months.
Disappointing as I've generally been happy with what I've seen this half from us. Now Newcastle will be the ones endlessly timewasting in the second period.
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Newcastle score, but offside
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Commentator bias is out of control.
Yes. Can't quite remember anything like it.
Any Liverpool game?
But I know what you mean, fucking hell.
A club I'd like to see vanish.
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Get rid of this woman now!!!
Wish she'd shut the fuck up! Been quite pleased with our performance so far though.
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Was it actually a handball and was it avoidable? I hate giving soft pens away.
Young sliding in to block, whole arm vertical in the air. Was a nailed on pen based on todays rules.
It's unlucky but it was a pen. Willow gave the ball to Doug and he dithered and got mugged with it, we've got to be better there.
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Well, this is quickly turning into shit.
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Much prefer Bailey on the left. He has no end product on the right.
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Come on Villa, shut these fuckers up.
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We all need to make a complaint this commentator is bordering on criminal
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Love the Mings reaction to the offside
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Half time
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Shame.
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Shame, we had frustrated them up to now, the crowd were pretty quiet and we'd had a couple of threatening moments.
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Newcastle score, but offside
Heh. It took me awhile to realize that with the sound off!
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Brighton doing what we should've done to Chelsea two weeks ago.
Tough to see where we're going to get an away win presently.
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Newcastle fans have been bloody nasty tossers today.
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Much prefer Bailey on the left. He has no end product on the right.
Yeah, I thought that... Get him down the left! Worked well with Ashley down there... likewise on the other flank with Cash and Watkins.
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I was going to comment on the woman comm, but it’s all been said!!!!!! Who is it?
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Newcastle fans have been bloody nasty tossers today.
Showed their true colours with the joy at being taken over by the worst people in the world. Their club is gone and they don't care.
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I was going to comment on the woman comm, but it’s all been said!!!!!! Who is it?
Lucy Ward.
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We all need to make a complaint this commentator is bordering on criminal
What station…I’m listening talksport 2
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Olsen isn't very good. I know it was offside, but he was pathetic in attempting to save that.
We've been ok, but I wish we'd lean more towards attacking rather than trying to frustrate the opposition.
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Newcastle fans have been bloody nasty tossers today.
Showed their true colours with the joy at being taken over by the worst people in the world. Their club is gone and they don't care.
It’s more the booing of injured players. Thousands of them by the sound of it.
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Bit unlucky in that half. Yes it was a penalty but to be honest we were containing them and growing into the game. Come on Aaron do your stuff now because I think we can get back into this
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Still shit away then. Loads of really pior passes going astray, and the final ball in as crap as ever in away games. Wank.
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FFS.
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Newcastle fans have been bloody nasty tossers today.
Today?
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Newcastle fans have been bloody nasty tossers today.
Showed their true colours with the joy at being taken over by the worst people in the world. Their club is gone and they don't care.
It’s more the booing of injured players. Thousands of them by the sound of it.
But of course they are pro-physical injury.
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Olsen isn't very good. I know it was offside, but he was pathetic in attempting to save that.
We've been ok, but I wish we'd lean more towards attacking rather than trying to frustrate the opposition.
Is there superglue on his boots? Couldn't and wouldn't move off line. That was embarrassing.
Strange game this of little quality.
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Olsen isn't very good. I know it was offside, but he was pathetic in attempting to save that.
We've been ok, but I wish we'd lean more towards attacking rather than trying to frustrate the opposition.
It's obvious we were playing for a 0-0.
Interested to see how quickly before Danks makes changes today. Last week was as easy as it gets at top level in managing a game.
It's a long way from being over. However don't make any changes until it's 2-0 and difficult to see us getting anything.
With the concussion sub we still have five options available to us so use them.
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Losing one of our best players to injury seems to be something we do every other week these days. Frustrating as hell.
For all the love-in commentary, Newcastle are bog standard from what I can see. They have one tactic, which is to get inside Ashely Young. We are still too wasteful in good positions. We need a killer centre forward - I'm sure Emery will see that and sort it out in January.
Luiz was great in that half aside from losing the ball on the edge of the area right before the penalty. Looks a really good player at the moment.
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I'm following from the back of a white Peugeot Teepee van. Just going through St Jean Pied de Port. UTV!
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Newcastle are a good team though, considering the quality of the individuals they have. Howe really knows what he's doing.
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I've found another stream with an Arabic commentary. Much better. The other lot were unbearable.
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Newcastle fans have been bloody nasty tossers today.
Showed their true colours with the joy at being taken over by the worst people in the world. Their club is gone and they don't care.
It’s more the booing of injured players. Thousands of them by the sound of it.
But of course they are pro-physical injury.
Stems from the ownership who are very pro human rights abuse. Fans seem happy enough with it.
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That woman's driving me mad, biased bint.
And Southgate laughing his head off when they scored, fucking ******.
Anyway, don't think it's been too bad, some nice moves but they just fall apart at the crucial moment.
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Still shit away then. Loads of really pior passes going astray, and the final ball in as crap as ever in away games. Wank.
No idea why we switched Bailey to the right. We won’t score here.
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I've found another stream with an Arabic commentary. Much better. The other lot were unbearable.
They’re even more biased, you just can’t understand them.
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Olsen isn't very good. I know it was offside, but he was pathetic in attempting to save that.
We've been ok, but I wish we'd lean more towards attacking rather than trying to frustrate the opposition.
Blimey good to see you’ve given him a chance before you judge him 😂 good save before this one
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I've watched Carragher comms on Villa - Liverpool, Neville comms on Villa - United and they've always been fair enough and it hasn't bothered me, but I've just come on here soley to check if I'm barking mad or not, as the commentators are a fucking right couple of Geordie wankers. Relieved to see others have clocked it.
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The general set up has been ok, we seemed to get on top of them in the middle of the half.
Watkins seems finished. No confidence, very poor touch. I’d get him off for any of McGinn, Coutinho or Ramsey.
Ash is finally showing his age.
Bizarre their fans booing the Emis for injuries, especially since neither injury stopped play in an attacking position for them?
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Watkins with his weekly airshot. It's not really sticking for any of our front 3, and young is being targeted.
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I've found another stream with an Arabic commentary. Much better. The other lot were unbearable.
Probably the same one I have. and good picture.
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Bailey needs to be back on the left. We really need a proper right winger.
Digne should come on for Young. If they bring Saint Maximin on then he will have him for pace
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If we'd gone in 0-0 I would've been happy. Frustrated the crowd, had some decent positions but fucked the final pass.
Can't see us getting anything now though. They really are a horrible bunch.
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Bailey needs to be back on the left. We really need a proper right winger.
We have one. He's in Turkey for some reason.
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I would switch Ollie for anyone, but Archer would help
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Olsen isn't very good. I know it was offside, but he was pathetic in attempting to save that.
We've been ok, but I wish we'd lean more towards attacking rather than trying to frustrate the opposition.
Blimey good to see you’ve given him a chance before you judge him 😂 good save before this one
It was alright, but nothing out of the ordinary :D
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I've found another stream with an Arabic commentary. Much better. The other lot were unbearable.
They’re even more biased, you just can’t understand them.
I can live with that.
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Bournemouth beating Spurs 2-0.
I don't think we'll quite be flying up the table as people think under Unai.
Will be happy if we get to 20 points by mid January. Far from certain currently.
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Olsen isn't very good. I know it was offside, but he was pathetic in attempting to save that.
We've been ok, but I wish we'd lean more towards attacking rather than trying to frustrate the opposition.
Blimey good to see you’ve given him a chance before you judge him 😂 good save before this one
It was shit though tbf. Stood with his feet totally planted then fell down like a tree. Decent stop before that one though.
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I thought we were ok for much of the first half, until we get into their box and then it all peters out cheaply. All of our front players are slow to react to the break of the ball, or choose a poor pass.
We need better quality.
A shame about their pen….I think Dougie should hold his hands up for that…he won the ball in the build up and lost it very cheaply which led to the pass/cross
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Still shit away then. Loads of really pior passes going astray, and the final ball in as crap as ever in away games. Wank.
No idea why we switched Bailey to the right. We won’t score here.
Because Ash was struggling and he wasn’t getting back
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I thought we took too many touches at times instead of just hitting the ball , Buendia just before he was injured for one . The sooner Emery replaces Watkins the better , he is no way a top ten premiership footballer .
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I've watched Carragher comms on Villa - Liverpool, Neville comms on Villa - United and they've always been fair enough and it hasn't bothered me, but I've just come on here soley to check if I'm barking mad or not, as the commentators are a fucking right couple of Geordie wankers. Relieved to see others have clocked it.
Did exactly the same thing. Nothing too overt but you could see they were desperate for Newcastle to score and ecstatic when they did
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Another stoppage. I wonder if they'll boo their player down?
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Ben ****** Mee with a cracking goal vs the dog heads
Edit: Neves immediately equalizes
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That woman's driving me mad, biased bint.
And Southgate laughing his head off when they scored, fucking ******.
Anyway, don't think it's been too bad, some nice moves but they just fall apart at the crucial moment.
Agree. We've created some good what Andy Townsend would call "situations", but the final ball has let us down.
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And both carrying on.
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Bailey back on the left.
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Doug pretty sloppy today, but then again most are.
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Time for some changes in midfield and up front Mr Danks.
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Be nice to have a shot on target.
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Cash pass forward > forward > in front of you > forward!
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I'd hook Buendia. He's been poor for the last half an hour
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Newcastle corner, first one for either side.
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2-0 Newcastle
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Gerrard out!
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Our renaissance lasted long then! Danks out! ;-)
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VAR check
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Game over
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Goal stands
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Game over. I'm sure that strange frog looking guy was offside to win the corner.
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Urai Emery has his work cut out
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Bollocks!
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Sorry to the rest of the world that we couldn't do justice a favour today by the looks of it.
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Konsa whiffed.
MacPhee can go now.
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Some shocking defending there.
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3-0
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That’s all folks!! For yet another week. Luckily we have Manure up next. From the commentary it sounds like Ollie etc back to normal and we haven’t really laid a glove on them.
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Konsa again, wtf is he doing.
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How rubbish
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I've seen this movie once before...
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Getting embarrassing now.
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As good as we were against Brentford, we've been poor today. Created very little, defending like shit.
Bailey off and JJ on.
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I hope Emery has signed on the dotted line.
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Substitute half the team now ffs. I hope Emery is pro-active with subs.
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Danny Dyer and Ollie Watkins, I never want to see them in the same side again.
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I honestly hope Emery rips this side up and starts again. Not many of them are good enough. Newcastle aren't that great either.
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More shocking defending.
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I don’t want to see Buendia play again. Too lightweight - directly cost us that third goal by once again flopping.
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Useless again ..
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God we have some shit players. Konsa, oh dear
I'm looking forward to Emery culling some.of them.
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That fucking song they sing when Wilson scores. That can fuck off.
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Buendia was bloody fouled there
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Fuck off barcodes. I hate them almost as much as the red filth yanited.
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Oh well.
Newcastle are the best team in the world now, apparently..so is it any wonder we have collapsed?
Ahhhh fuck it, I’m going to walk the dog before the cunting fireworks start.
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Not sure I fancy seeing Coutinho strolling around flapping his arms in the rest of the game, they could easily get another couple.
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This bunch are quite good at turning minor setbacks into outright disasters.
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Buendia is so bloody lightweight at times , shrugged off the ball so easy .
Cash crap for that goal
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Exactly the sort of result i feared. Much work to be done. But, fuck newcastle from a great height.
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Hopefully we'll see a clean sweep from Emery on the coaching staff once he takes over. Danks, McPhee and Cutler simply not up to the standard we need if we're serious about pushing up the table. Get rid
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Complete and utter shit again.
Villa are back.
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3-0. At least it keeps the commentators happy.
It's been really poor from us for half an hour. Buendia especially has been really really poor and powder puff, like a few others out there.
The only difference between these two sides is organisation and fitness. They've looked stringer all the game through.
Anyway on to bigger and brighter things... The next time we play these ****** we will have a top manager in the dugout.
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Newcastle aren't any great shakes, and yet are third and have had that kind of record for around a year now. Shows what good coaching, and confidence, can do to a side.
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Worst thing is I've not seen anything that impressive from Newcastle. Yet we've just gifted them the game and it has become a hiding. It's pathetic tbh.
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So much is broken. So much for Emery to fix
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4-0
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A penalty, a corner routine from their first one of the game and a breakaway killer third. It sounds simple cos it kind of is. Emery should make us a lot more street-smart. And a deflected 4th.
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We’ve been so sloppy. Can’t string a few passes together.
4-0
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Fucking basics Ollie!!!!
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It's like August 2010 all over again. Great home win under a caretaker manager, battered at Newcastle next game.
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Ollie and that mare of a commentor need putting down.
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Get Watkins out of this club
He is not good enough
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Garbage
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I can only imagine what that pair on the English commentary channels are making of this. Anyway, I've seen enough until next week.
4-0 now, that's definitely enough.
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Oh dear - lets hope Emery can improve some of them. Major surgery needed in January.
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Absolutely fucking getting humped
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These players.
Shite.
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We're now entering Kevin MacDonald territory.
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It doesn’t matter who we have as manager, he won’t get this squad above half way. Our season relies heavily on January because it’s clear to anyone we have some very ordinary players.
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Whilst it's crazy how, in the space of 11 months, Newcastle have overtaken us and carried on improving. I'm optimistic that Emery will have the same impact.
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Bonkers not giving Archer 20 mins. Ings has hardly touched the ball it seems this half, and is still on.
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Fucking hell
Thank fuck we have a top manager coming to keep us up
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What the hell is going on here?
As good as last week was this is bad.
Rotten. And Watkins is truly awful.
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Double post.
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Must admit, I'd take a point right now.
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Did Watkins just give the ball away then ???
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Newcastle aren't any great shakes.
Barcodes look very good to me. They are extremely hungry which is always a telltale sign of a team going places.
We are heading to the Championship.
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I'd take the draw right now.
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One home result changes nothing - there is an awful lot of work to do. January is key now once Unai has a chance to assess the squad.
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Newcastle's success is based on a solid defence. Thats where we need to start
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Watkins has zero football intelligence. This seasons a write off, if we can get through without anymore shite like this, having to constantly check the scores of other games to make sure we're not in the bottom 3, I'd be happy.
Then next season actually try and do something properly.
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Think we might be in great danger this season.
We’re as about as ineffective as this server.
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Watkins is absolutely fucking woeful, clueless footballer. Thick as fuck, was pretty obvious system needed changing after half time and no response
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Completely given up and downed tools in the second half.
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I wonder if Arsenal would still be interested in Ollie?
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Newcastle hit the bar
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Newcastle are really good, Howe has done an amazing job.
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I’m feeling pretty angry about the players right now
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Don't really like many of our players to be honest.
Emi, Cash...that's about it. Ollie I like but I'm struggling to keep it that way.
Mings and Konsa have been awful today. Young poor, Dendoncker, fucking hell. Bailey, Buendia and Ings just crap.
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Come on Villa 4 quick goals and we’re right back in it
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Who the fuck are these commentators?
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And they hit the woodwork again
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We seem to have given up. Utterly unprofessional performance.
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I’m feeling pretty angry about the players right now
Same. Though I have felt that way since the last months of Smith's reign.
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They’ve got no nonsense defenders, a really good right back, and forward players who are sharp, and can take and create chances.
They’re also confident, and well coached.
We’ve lost a year under Gerrard going backwards (or at least not forwards) on pretty much every measure.
A lot for Emery to do.
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We haven't had a shot this half.
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Please blow the whistle ref.
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They’ve got no nonsense defenders, a really good right back, and forward players who are sharp, and can take and create chances.
They’re also confident, and well coached.
We’ve lost a year under Gerrard going backwards (or at least not forwards) on pretty much every measure.
A lot for Emery to do.
Agreed and it shows what can be done with good coaching
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I didn't expect much out of this game, but I didn't expect a hammering. This is what it's been.
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Keeper not much good
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What’s the excuse this week? The coach has gone, they’ve come off the back of an 4-0 win and the slightest sign of a battle and the white flags go up.
It must be Danks’ fault surely?
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I’m feeling pretty angry about the players right now
Same. Though I have felt that way since the last months of Smith's reign.
They were crap for Dean at the end, crap for the Gerrard throughout, and are crap still now.
Not an ounce of pride.
I'm ranting of course, but fucking hell
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It doesn’t matter who we have as manager, he won’t get this squad above half way. Our season relies heavily on January because it’s clear to anyone we have some very ordinary players.
Rubbish you cant tell me that Newcastle have much better players than we do. With a proper team of coaches a top manager and a form of direction there is plenty in this squad to get above mid table. We've had a year of awful management it isint going to suddenly switch now we've got rid of them all.
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Maybe we should have a ‘Guess the minute the server crashes’ thread
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Newcastle are really good, Howe has done an amazing job.
I don't think Newcastle are anything special, they're now playing with loads of confidence against a team that have given up.
I like Howe. He has more class than the Geordie Nation combined.
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Shambolic second half.
I joked after last week hopefully Danks wouldn't imitate McDonald's first caretaker spell, he had a good go second half today.
I'll be happy just to get as quickly to 20 points as possible, hopefully sometime in January. We won't be flying up the league as much as everyone assumes when you see collapses like today.
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What’s the excuse this week? The coach has gone, they’ve come off the back of an 4-0 win and the slightest sign of a battle and the white flags go up.
It must be Danks’ fault surely?
Rudderless. The quicker Emery gets his men in and we get to January the better.
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We have a repugnant whiff of relegation about us at the moment. 4 - 0 is flattering. It honestly could be 8 or 9.
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Don’t you just know it, when you want to vent your spleen and shout at these fucking bunch of losers this bloody site goes down. And now I do r know who I want to shout at more! Grrrrr
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Newcastle have a very defined plan on how to play and they’ve stuck to it for a good while. We went from Dean Smith’s traps, to Steven Gerrard’s look me in the eye and roll up your sleeves plan to handing the reigns to two blokes who have nothing to lose but do their best. It might get uglier under Emery before it gets better. But at least it will be a plan he will want us to adhere to and learn. Our players look fucking awful and lost.
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Shambolic second half.
I joked after last week hopefully Danks wouldn't imitate McDonald's first caretaker spell, he had a good go second half today.
I'll be happy just to get as quickly to 20 points as possible, hopefully sometime in January. We won't be flying up the league as much as everyone assumes when you see collapses like today.
Yeah but you were worried about Bournemouth pulling clear of us half an hour ago ;)
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Yes! Nick Pope touched the ball. It was only catching a cross, but we're back!!!!
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Blimey Pope had to do something, catch the ball!
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Newcastle have a very defined plan on how to play and they’ve stuck to it for a good while. We went from Dean Smith’s traps, to Steven Gerrard’s look me in the eye and roll up your sleeves plan to handing the reigns to two blokes who have nothing to lose but do their best. It might get uglier under Emery before it gets better. But at least it will be a plan he will want us to adhere to and learn. Our players look fucking awful and lost.
This team having to scrap its way out of trouble is a terrifying thought.
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The end of the Aaron Danks era. It’s been a hell of a ride.
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No shots on target...embarassing
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What’s the excuse this week? The coach has gone, they’ve come off the back of an 4-0 win and the slightest sign of a battle and the white flags go up.
It must be Danks’ fault surely?
How the hell can you blame Danks?
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We have a repugnant whiff of relegation about us at the moment. 4 - 0 is flattering. It honestly could be 8 or 9.
We're rubbish away from home. That's on Gerrard for wasting so many winnable fixtures already. Tough ask for Emery to turn things around when we've still got to play both Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs all on the road.
3 wins from first 6 at VP is decent though so that's something to build on at least.
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Mirror image of lasts weeks match.
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Worst performance of the season. What a bunch of fucking wasters.
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A pathetic performance.
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Deja vu from 2010. Caretakers tea spanks someone at home ,.Next week we are spanked at Newcastle.
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Well that’s knocked some of the positivity out of me.
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What's the penalty for making too many subs 'cause I reckon the jawdee nation have made 6?
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Newcastle have been very well coached for nearly a year, we've been badly 'coached' by Gerrard and crew for nearly a year. This is the difference that makes.
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What’s the excuse this week? The coach has gone, they’ve come off the back of an 4-0 win and the slightest sign of a battle and the white flags go up.
It must be Danks’ fault surely?
How the hell can you blame Danks?
Well you could blame the players but if your manager fucks it up then it’s all down to Gerrard
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Too many shit players. One good game in 5 is nowhere near good enough.
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What's the penalty for making too many subs 'cause I reckon the jawdee nation have made 6?
Looks like it on Flashscores, although I didn’t see all their subs.
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It might get uglier under Emery before it gets better. But at least it will be a plan he will want us to adhere to and learn.
That's where patience will be required. The virtue that fans don't really possess.
Today's opponents were still woeful for the first few months of Howe's reign - and were knocked out of the Cup at home to Cambridge. Lasting change rarely happens overnight.
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What's the penalty for making too many subs 'cause I reckon the jawdee nation have made 6?
As per BBC Sport, they made 6 subs. Throw the book at them!
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Only positive is that Emery would have watched that and can happily have a long list of players to bin.
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What's the penalty for making too many subs 'cause I reckon the jawdee nation have made 6?
As per BBC Sport, they made 6 subs. Throw the book at them!
Cheated again!
It made all the difference.
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What's the penalty for making too many subs 'cause I reckon the jawdee nation have made 6?
As per BBC Sport, they made 6 subs. Throw the book at them!
I'm not sure I'd want it replayed. Be funny if we awarded a 2-0 win on a technicality.
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Newcastle are really good, Howe has done an amazing job.
I don't think Newcastle are anything special, they're now playing with loads of confidence against a team that have given up.
I like Howe. He has more class than the Geordie Nation combined.
Sure we've raised the white flag but it's more than just this game. They were certs to go down when he took over and now they're in the top four playing some greta stuff. Plus what he's done with Almiron and Joelinton is pretty amazing.
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A concussion substitution allows the opposition team to make a extra one, according the geordies.
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It doesn’t matter who we have as manager, he won’t get this squad above half way. Our season relies heavily on January because it’s clear to anyone we have some very ordinary players.
Rubbish you cant tell me that Newcastle have much better players than we do. With a proper team of coaches a top manager and a form of direction there is plenty in this squad to get above mid table. We've had a year of awful management it isint going to suddenly switch now we've got rid of them all.
My opinion is based on watching them many times for the last 3 seasons and a bit seasons. We make some unbelievable individual mistakes and still have issues keeping the ball and making use of it. Defensively we shoot ourselves in the foot so many times and have done under Smith, Gerrard and now this game under a caretaker coach. Have we been terribly coached for 3 and a bit seasons or are a few of the players we have shown they just aren’t up to this standard? We’ll see I suppose but I’ll stick by what I’ve said.
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What’s the excuse this week? The coach has gone, they’ve come off the back of an 4-0 win and the slightest sign of a battle and the white flags go up.
It must be Danks’ fault surely?
How the hell can you blame Danks?
It’s called sarcasm.
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Only positive is that Emery would have watched that and can happily have a long list of players to bin.
Only positive is that Emery wasn't in charge today.
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Or Gerrard.