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Title: No doubt about it
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 24, 2022, 10:48:14 PM
An apology, and stuff.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2022/10/24/no-doubt-about-it/
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 24, 2022, 11:00:09 PM
A few slips of the pen Dave, but you capture a very strong essence of what we're all feeling right now. Positive and hopeful. Nice one.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Ger Regan on October 24, 2022, 11:02:52 PM
The non-stepping stone point is a good one, and one I hadn't really considered before.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 24, 2022, 11:03:05 PM
No doubt about it, can't argue with any of that.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Exeter 77 on October 24, 2022, 11:12:23 PM
Completely agree about the O'Neill/Atkinson thing. I haven't been this excited about a Villa managerial appointment since BFR.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Rory on October 24, 2022, 11:20:35 PM
Yep, spot on.

I just hope everyone at the club, especially the owners, and Unai, are informed by somebody or other about how impressed we are with the appointment, and how unanimously over the moon we all are to have him as our manager.

The cup of good will and support runneth over.

UTV.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Nelly on October 24, 2022, 11:54:34 PM
We don't need to keep pointing out typos, do we?

This appointment feels seismic: I think O'Neill's was exciting but for achievements in the game, Emery eclipses that. I can't think of a bigger name manager at Villa, or one with a better record.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Louzie0 on October 25, 2022, 12:46:31 AM
I enjoyed reading that, it reflected the concern about how long the owners would stay with the SG experiment and whether ‘continued improvement’ was a real aim or a PR line, last November. Well, they’ve shown us!

Thanks Dave, and thanks especially to Messrs Edens and Sawiris. Exciting times have returned to the Villa!
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: tomd2103 on October 25, 2022, 12:55:16 AM
The non-stepping stone point is a good one, and one I hadn't really considered before.

Agree with that point as well.  This smacks of someone who has unfinished business in English football and sees Aston Villa as a club who he can fulfil those ambitions with.

He’s only 50 as well, so pretty young in management terms, yet has a wealth of experience behind him. 
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: FatSam on October 25, 2022, 12:56:12 AM
Like
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: frank black on October 25, 2022, 07:31:06 AM
Yep, sums up my thoughts precisely. V good
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Ian. on October 25, 2022, 07:58:47 AM
Exciting times ahead. Good article Dave and it was becoming a concern where on the curve of the project the club was heading. I reckon they had never taken their eye off of it, just had faith in Purslow’s man who again had that faith in Gerrard.

It wasn’t to be and he could have been brilliant, could obviously being the gamble they took. It’s great to be in the hands of an elite and proven manager.

I haven’t been up for a long while, I’ve been very busy having a family. The last time I came was at the start of my journey being a father. That was when Ashley Young was on our bench under MON. After four attempts I do have a child who’s into her football. I’ll be coming up again soon I hope.

The only problem I will have is it will have to be to watch the ladies team as there will be no chance in hell for me to get tickets to see the men play!
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Rigadon on October 25, 2022, 08:32:28 AM
The next manager appointment was always going to tell us the direction of the club.  It’s clear we’re on an upward trajectory which is great. 
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Beard82 on October 25, 2022, 08:57:38 AM
Yeah I started following Villa under BFR and this is probably the only time I have been seriously excited apart from O’Neill

He shows the height of our ambition and we will have had to give him assurances about backing

He inherits a strong squad was potential to improve and hopefully a couple of well though through purchases will strengthen the team and balance out the squad combined with a few coming back from injury

Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: dave shelley on October 25, 2022, 08:59:35 AM
A good piece which sums things up nicely.  Aaron Danks is an interesting one, I really hope he doesn't get thrown out with the dishwater, Sunday's performance showed that he knows how to set up a side to play to their strengths in the correct positions.  They were motivated too, though that wouldn't be hard given what had gone on over the prior eleven months.  There could be a lot more yet of what Aaron Danks can bring to the table.  Again, a nice piece.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: darren woolley on October 25, 2022, 09:18:36 AM
What a great read Dave.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Scratchins on October 25, 2022, 09:26:47 AM
Spot on Dave. I have eaten so much humble pie since Sunday morning, What an exciting time. I was at a meeting when the news came through, mostly Albion fans, a few Wolves and 1 other Villa. It went down like a lead balloon. They aye appy. Is it true his brother Dick is coming with him to manage the Blues?
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: ozzjim on October 25, 2022, 12:10:27 PM
Fair play NSWE. It's a hell of an appointment.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 25, 2022, 12:15:06 PM
What a great read Dave.

My pleasure Daz.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: ozzjim on October 25, 2022, 12:20:56 PM
What a great read Dave.

My pleasure Daz.

Hear hear. Excellent read. And I was with you wavering on them and thinking they might not be what they said. They have to have sold this to Unai, and sold it well.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Risso on October 25, 2022, 12:41:43 PM
I was starting to have similar misgivings. I didn't think we'd improved the first team enough in the summer, and the owners were conspicuous by their absence at Villa Park this season. Getting Emery is a huge step to show that they're still bang up for it. Backing him in the next couple of windows is absolutely key though. We're all buzzing after smashing Brentford, but it's still not a top 8 first team in my opinion.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Luffbralion on October 25, 2022, 12:54:00 PM
Great read, Dave.   Wow ....what a difference in my mood from Thursday night to Monday evening, when the news was confirmed.

Love the idea that Unai is determined to prove himself in the Premiership (not that he did badly at Arsenal, especially after replacing a legend).

Really impressed with the decisive and ambitious move from the owners. Aupa Villa!
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 25, 2022, 12:56:39 PM
I never understood the feeling on here that our owners were losing interest after just one gamble. Maybe there’s the Lerner years that makes one think there is a limit. Our owners are here for the long haul and it’s the reason SG was binned. That it wasn’t done sooner got me thinking negatively or at least thinking that a longer time would be given to the overall project. They don’t want to change the datelines so they’ve acted. It’s how serious business people do things.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 25, 2022, 12:58:25 PM
Reading that has stirred my loins - excellently written and really captures where i think most of us were. Broken and disillusioned.

I would imagine his first walk down the touchline (against that rancid filth) will bring the roof off. Beat them scumfuckers in his first home game and i want William to knight the fucker already
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: garyellis on October 25, 2022, 01:07:19 PM
I never understood the feeling on here that our owners were losing interest after just one gamble. Maybe there’s the Lerner years that makes one think there is a limit. Our owners are here for the long haul and it’s the reason SG was binned. That it wasn’t done sooner got me thinking negatively or at least thinking that a longer time would be given to the overall project. They don’t want to change the datelines so they’ve acted. It’s how serious business people do things.
I was very much in this camp. Moving us up to the top 8 was never going to be easy with bumps along the way but our owners are have the wherewithal  to deal with that.
Great piece Dave your recent doubts played on my mind but all good again now with this seriously ambitious appointment.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Risso on October 25, 2022, 01:15:35 PM
I never understood the feeling on here that our owners were losing interest after just one gamble. Maybe there’s the Lerner years that makes one think there is a limit. Our owners are here for the long haul and it’s the reason SG was binned. That it wasn’t done sooner got me thinking negatively or at least thinking that a longer time would be given to the overall project. They don’t want to change the datelines so they’ve acted. It’s how serious business people do things.

It wasn't the Gerrard appointment for me, it was the relative lack of spending in the summer, especially when the window was open for ages after Carlos was injured.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: Legion on October 25, 2022, 06:49:37 PM
Done.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 25, 2022, 06:55:36 PM
I am fucking excited
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: The Edge on October 25, 2022, 07:00:51 PM
Great read that. Thanks. The last paragraph is particularly good. The fact that he's been rubbing shoulders with the European elite while we've not qualified for ten years makes it pretty astonishing that the club captured his services. Whoever is responsible for that achievement please take a well earned bow.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 25, 2022, 07:05:23 PM
what a difference a few days make.
Title: Re: No doubt about it
Post by: TonyD on October 25, 2022, 07:28:44 PM
I was definitely getting a bit worried that they had lost interest.
Perhaps they might have acted a bit sooner.  But that’s all academic now as this is a brilliant appointment.
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