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Title: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 22, 2022, 02:26:57 PM
Bonkers season so far.  The promoted clubs are showing glimpses of good form which could drag more established clubs into the mix.  Leicester and Wolves are currently obliging however I think both (and us) should be comfortable by the end of the season. 

I’ll go:

18 Leeds 39pts
19 Everton 38pts
20 Forest 35pts

Predictions please…
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: ozzjim on October 22, 2022, 02:28:06 PM
Let's appoint a manager before we make predictions.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 22, 2022, 02:37:14 PM
Unless we solve the goal scoring problem and soon we are in trouble.
I keep watching a team that doesn’t look like scoring even when we create chances.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 22, 2022, 02:50:32 PM
Eleven games played. Forgive me I don't quiver in abject terror just yet.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 22, 2022, 02:53:16 PM
Us already playing all three promoted teams away is going to make it difficult for next manager to even get 4-5 away wins this season now unless we improve a bit defensively. Leeds and even Palace are also games I'd have in the winnable category.

Going to be a season where we need to win more than the 6-7 at VP we usually do so will be some big home games after xmas to play I think.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 22, 2022, 02:53:44 PM
Eleven games played. Forgive me I don't quiver in abject terror just yet.

Especially when we've an Archer in our ranks.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: enigma on October 22, 2022, 02:59:12 PM
We've got to get this next appointment right as even the shit teams are getting their act together.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 22, 2022, 02:59:20 PM
Eleven games played. Forgive me I don't quiver in abject terror just yet.
Give it until 4 pm tomorrow.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: aj2k77 on October 22, 2022, 03:07:56 PM
We've spunked loads of the ''easier'' games on Gerrard. We're in trouble.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 22, 2022, 03:09:41 PM
Eleven games played. Forgive me I don't quiver in abject terror just yet.

I'll take 'things we said in 2015' for 500 please.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Goldenballs on October 22, 2022, 03:13:56 PM
Really hard one to call at the moment. I'd love Leeds to go with their complete knob head of a manager, but he's doing much better than I thought he would tbf.

I think Forest will go, but can't pick another 2. If we can appoint a semi competent manager I think we'll be fairly comfortable.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 22, 2022, 03:29:14 PM
Pin this thread. We're going to need it.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 22, 2022, 04:03:42 PM
We've spunked loads of the ''easier'' games on Gerrard. We're in trouble.

Similar to Sherwood. We played all of Sunderland, West Brom, Stoke and Swansea at home early on in that horrific season and won none of them. Garde then had Man. City, Arsenal and a decent Everton all in his first 5 games and predictably couldn't get any momentum and it was just a slow lingering death from that point.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 22, 2022, 04:06:16 PM
Eleven games played. Forgive me I don't quiver in abject terror just yet.

I'll take 'things we said in 2015' for 500 please.

We had four points from our first eleven games, then, and basically zero good players.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: eamonn on October 22, 2022, 04:36:15 PM
This thread can fuck right off!!
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 22, 2022, 04:48:55 PM
This thread can fuck right off!!

Correct. The optimism of looking forward to a new manager and someone starts this. Bet they're fun at parties.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 22, 2022, 05:32:19 PM
This thread can fuck right off!!

Correct. The optimism of looking forward to a new manager and someone starts this. Bet they're fun at parties.

Thanks for the kind words. 

It’s not necessarily about us, its who you think will get relegated.  Usually there are some obviously shit teams but this season everyone looks pretty capable of getting results. 
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Three Spires Villa on October 22, 2022, 05:34:42 PM
You don’t have to post on a thread! I think it’s going to difficult to call this season. On the Villa I don’t think we will get relegated
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: wince on October 22, 2022, 07:01:50 PM
We are going nowhere.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Legion on October 22, 2022, 11:20:49 PM
We'll be fine. Just. 16th. Forest, Leicester and the Dingles to go down.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Legion on October 22, 2022, 11:23:06 PM
Eleven games played. Forgive me I don't quiver in abject terror just yet.

Especially when we've an Archer in our ranks.

Who has been sitting on the bench for weeks whilst Ings and Watkins have continually been played even though neither have done anything of note.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Legion on October 22, 2022, 11:23:50 PM
Just seen the reference. Very good.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 23, 2022, 12:10:18 AM
We are going nowhere.

That's what I'm worried about!
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Legion on October 23, 2022, 12:12:13 AM
We are going nowhere.

That's what I'm worried about!

That will do for me ths season. Going nowhere. Staying where we are.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 23, 2022, 07:33:52 AM
Eleven games played. Forgive me I don't quiver in abject terror just yet.

I'll take 'things we said in 2015' for 500 please.

We had four points from our first eleven games, then, and basically zero good players.
and we still had too good to go down type statements
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 04, 2023, 10:06:50 PM
36pts is the average to stay up.

I see Southampton, Bournemouth and  then Leeds or Forest being the other to go down.
Base that on these all having several championship standard players and weak defense.
I can't decide bewteen Forest or Leeds.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on February 04, 2023, 10:16:35 PM
I wonder whether Palace might get dragged in as they don't score enough goals.  Everton should be fine with Dyche but they will be shit to watch. 
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 04, 2023, 10:19:55 PM
I wonder whether Palace might get dragged in as they don't score enough goals.  Everton should be fine with Dyche but they will be shit to watch. 

Palace are the outside bet as they have a horrendous run of fixtures till the end of March. They could well be well in the mix by then with five '6 pointers' in April which will probably determine whether they stay up or not.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Legion on February 04, 2023, 10:21:54 PM
As long as it is not us, I don't really care.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Steve67 on February 04, 2023, 10:23:27 PM
As long as it is not us, I don't really care.

100%. 
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 04, 2023, 10:24:09 PM
Bournemouth, Southampton looking doomed.  That’s two gone.
One from Everton, Leeds, West Ham, Forrest, Leicester. 

hopefully not one of the midlands clubs but West Ham and Leeds squads are pretty strong so the camaraderie in the squad - and Dyche - could be the difference. 
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 04, 2023, 11:05:59 PM
Someone having a laugh bumping this.

We need two wins and a couple of draws to stay up. We managed 10 points just last month.

Reminds me of the panic end of last season when I think we were actually safe after beating Leeds in early March.

Let's be ambitious for once and aim to get past 50 points as then we're not far off the 20/21 haul.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: brontebilly on February 05, 2023, 12:04:32 AM
Bournemouth, Southampton looking doomed.  That’s two gone.
One from Everton, Leeds, West Ham, Forrest, Leicester. 

hopefully not one of the midlands clubs but West Ham and Leeds squads are pretty strong so the camaraderie in the squad - and Dyche - could be the difference.

Forest I think (and hope). Any promoted club that gives the likes of Lingard and Shelvey big contracts deserves to go down.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 05, 2023, 12:14:08 AM
Someone having a laugh bumping this.

Yeah, I wonder who bumped it .........

Ah, yes.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: ROBBO on February 05, 2023, 04:54:03 AM
Man City will win the league and are the only team I don't think we can beat. Arsenal were terrible against Everton and if I were an Everton supporter I wouldn't get too excited. I still think they will struggle after the new manager bounce disappears.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 05, 2023, 09:48:16 AM
Someone having a laugh bumping this.

Yeah, I wonder who bumped it .........

Ah, yes.
I brought it up in the current discussion for the teams I believe will be relegated.
I don't believe Villa are in danger, but others may.
Emery also stated in his Prem match versus Leicester that Premier League safety is the top priority and that teams at the bottom are trying to win games to be safe.

Again it's being brought into consciousness can either join the debate and give own views or just not get involved. The negativity uncalled for.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: The Edge on February 05, 2023, 10:08:31 AM
We are one point behind Liverpool. I wonder if they have a relegation watch thread?
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 05, 2023, 10:47:23 AM
We are one point behind Liverpool. I wonder if they have a relegation watch thread?

I think I interpret it differently and that despite it being a H and Villa forum, it's a thread about watching relegation. To some may include being weary or aware of how safe we are or are not and to others unnecessary.

I see it as who is going to be relegated at this moment Southampton Bournemouth and if a team loses today between Forest and Leeds.

Want do others think on who will actually drop?
I read about Palace here as an option, which is interesting.

For me, Leeds' defence and forest away form, as well as the level of some of their players, would point at one of them to go down.

I think Cooper is an excellent manager, and Marsh has his merits, but perhaps not the overall temperament to stay up as last year Leeds went close to going down. Certainly, don't mind if they do.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Risso on February 05, 2023, 03:28:48 PM
We are one point behind Liverpool. I wonder if they have a relegation watch thread?

I think I interpret it differently and that despite it being a H and Villa forum, it's a thread about watching relegation. To some may include being weary or aware of how safe we are or are not and to others unnecessary.

I see it as who is going to be relegated at this moment Southampton Bournemouth and if a team loses today between Forest and Leeds.

Want do others think on who will actually drop?
I read about Palace here as an option, which is interesting.

For me, Leeds' defence and forest away form, as well as the level of some of their players, would point at one of them to go down.

I think Cooper is an excellent manager, and Marsh has his merits, but perhaps not the overall temperament to stay up as last year Leeds went close to going down. Certainly, don't mind if they do.

There's a 'who's going down thread' in Other Football, where it belongs.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 05, 2023, 03:44:12 PM
Someone having a laugh bumping this.

Yeah, I wonder who bumped it .........

Ah, yes.
I brought it up in the current discussion for the teams I believe will be relegated.
I don't believe Villa are in danger, but others may.
Emery also stated in his Prem match versus Leicester that Premier League safety is the top priority and that teams at the bottom are trying to win games to be safe.

Again it's being brought into consciousness can either join the debate and give own views or just not get involved. The negativity uncalled for.


Must be a relegation thread in other football to contribute to?

I'd be concerned if we get to March international break and we haven't won a game.
Title: Re: Relegation watch - 2022/23
Post by: Risso on February 05, 2023, 04:01:00 PM
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