Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on October 22, 2022, 01:03:39 PM
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Alex Whybrow chips in:
https://heroesandvillains.info/2022/10/22/how-not-to-manage-aston-villa/
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I don’t pay a lot of attention to the post game interview stuff but I can’t remember him being particularly arrogant in his time here, rather the opposite.
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Well it always the players not knowing what to do, players needing to step up. The tactics were abysmal, the subs terrible. The insistence on McGinn as HIS captain, and playing him all the time despite dis form being terrible. The set up didn’t work and the football got worse and worse and yet he didn’t try to fix it. And then to cap it all off he puts out that side and that formation during the week and we got torn to pieces. We had a short spell early on post Coutinho joining where things looked really promising, the football was great but it was never built upon.
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He was a poor football manager, I’m just not sure some of the other stuff levelled at him is particularly accurate or fair.
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He was a poor football manager, I’m just not sure some of the other stuff levelled at him is particularly accurate or fair.
Agreed. It's puzzling why that fact alone is seemingly not enough.
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I certainly didn’t like that for a man who insisted Mings looks him in the eye, whatever that was all about, he was someone who couldn’t look away fans in the eye after defeats. Just walked off the pitch. You don’t do that. I don’t like personal vitriol, which it unfortunately got to in some segments, but his professional conduct left a bit to be desired. I think he’s learned a tough lesson with this experience and he will need to reinvent himself to get back into another prominent management role.
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I think he would have been well aware of our feelings toward him, expecting him to come over to the fans so another ‘round of fucks’ could have been administered at a closer range might be expecting a bit much.
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Done.
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Pretty spot on piece for me. I think Purslow’s responsibility in this cannot be overstated enough.
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I think Gerrard with his media training and his (brilliant playing career) as a manager had "confidence over competence" and "(personal) style over (managerial) substance". He looked the part and talked a good game but just didn't have the actual chops. His hard man act was embarrassing af and not a good look!
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Good article.
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I think Purslow has one shit managerial appointment left in him.
He’s had one. Fucked it up.
Next is crucial for everyone. Not sure I trust him to nail it.
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Good article, pretty much sums his tenure up.
I don’t think he was arrogant when being interviewed but as others have said he certainly had the air of a billy big bollocks at times.
He has been there, done it and done it well - but as a player not a manager, so as others suggest, I think he needs someone alongside him to almost keep him in check and tell him no every now and then.
As for Purslow, as N’ZMAV says, he is one more poor appointment away from the sack too. Perhaps he needs to stick to the business side of things and we get a proper DOF in for the football side. Ashworth would have been great but I’m sure there is someone out there who could come in and do the job.
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The article is full of projections and assumptions. It doesn’t speak for me. I liked him as a player, he was a rubbish manager for us but it’s nothing personal.
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I think Purslow has one shit managerial appointment left in him.
He’s had one. Fucked it up.
Next is crucial for everyone. Not sure I trust him to nail it.
Think he's only gone and done it.
Assuming of course, that he was the person responsible for landing Emery.
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Good article.
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I don't agree with much of that to be honest. I don't mind a no nonsense approach and self confidence. He's mostly been a winner in the past and I saw that as a positive not a negative. I quite liked his interview style, although obviously it became a bit strained when the pressure mounted towards the end.
As for acknowledging fans, he generally gave a quick clap from the halfway line. He'd only have been antagonising he he approached much closer during the bad spells, and what would that achieve?
Obviously it quickly became clear that he was no tactician and any hope of doing well with us seemed to evaporate when Beale left for QPR. We hadn't been pulling up trees beforehand, but it was reasonable to hope that they may improve after the summer.
So yeah, I'm glad he's gone. All the other stuff? It's just noise to me. I honestly couldn't give a toss about it.
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I don't agree with much of that to be honest. I don't mind a no nonsense approach and self confidence. He's mostly been a winner in the past and I saw that as a positive not a negative. I quite liked his interview style, although obviously it became a bit strained when the pressure mounted towards the end.
As for acknowledging fans, he generally gave a quick clap from the halfway line. He'd only have been antagonising he he approached much closer during the bad spells, and what would that achieve?
Obviously it quickly became clear that he was no tactician and any hope of doing well with us seemed to evaporate when Beale left for QPR. We hadn't been pulling up trees beforehand, but it was reasonable to hope that they may improve after the summer.
So yeah, I'm glad he's gone. All the other stuff? It's just noise to me. I honestly couldn't give a toss about it.
Yep, I think most of that is a load of shite to be honest, really poor article.
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Good article. Agree with most of that.
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I wouldn't have been quite that harsh Risso!
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Tim Sherwood MK2 .Able to restore some confidence to a struggling team short term but the longer it went the worse we got.Like Tim a pre-season of his own and his own player's coming in and things got worse. Both talked a good game but neither could walk the walk when it came down to it .
In SG case he was obsessed with 4-3-3 , the formation Liverpool and City play but neither had the player's or the coaching ability to make it work.
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I doubt anyone would be complaining if we'd finished in the top half last season & were looking good for another top half finish this time round.
Not to say that should be the limit of our ambition, but he didn't come close to fulfilling that fairly modest brief.
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Complete and utter tripe. John Terry was very unpopular at Villa Park (and everywhere else bar Chelsea) but won over supporters with his performances on the pitch. Unprecedented reaction at Fulham, eh the final days of McLeish, Lambert and Bruce/cabbage-gate were arguably far worse. Needed a Brummie on his staff....
Gerrard made a mess of the Mings/McGinn situation last summer, that's undeniable and showed his inexperience there. That aside, winking at the Everton fans...if anyone was subject to the vile abuse he was getting about his wife and family (like he was that day), I think they are entitled to feel a bit smug about coming out with a win.