Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Simon Page on August 02, 2022, 10:50:10 AM
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The club to produce the most CO2 during their pre-season tour was Aston Villa.
Premier League teams Air miles travelled in pre-season C02 emissions per passenger (in Kg) Carbon emissions per football team in Metric Tons
Aston Villa 22419 2921 87.63
Leeds United 21858 2736 82.08
Manchester United 21507 2642 79.29
Crystal Palace 22819 2583 77.49
Liverpool 14160 1804 54.12
Tottenham Hotspur 15330 1770 53.1
Chelsea 13421 1639 49.17
Arsenal 9808 1247 37.41
Manchester City 9505 1123 33.69
Everton 8297 980 29.4
Nottingham Forest 3258 534 16.02
Newcastle United 3253 460 13.8
Wolverhampton Wanderers 2503 392 11.76
Fulham 2174 349 10.47
AFC Bournemouth 1994 302 9.06
Brighton & Hove Albion 1916 296 8.88
West Ham United 1206 278 8.34
Brentford 1318 269 8.07
Southampton 1548 264 7.92
Leicester City 564 134 4.02
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62280394 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62280394)
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The club to produce the most CO2 during their pre-season tour was Aston Villa.
Premier League teams Air miles travelled in pre-season C02 emissions per passenger (in Kg) Carbon emissions per football team in Metric Tons
Aston Villa 22419 2921 87.63
Leeds United 21858 2736 82.08
Manchester United 21507 2642 79.29
Crystal Palace 22819 2583 77.49
Liverpool 14160 1804 54.12
Tottenham Hotspur 15330 1770 53.1
Chelsea 13421 1639 49.17
Arsenal 9808 1247 37.41
Manchester City 9505 1123 33.69
Everton 8297 980 29.4
Nottingham Forest 3258 534 16.02
Newcastle United 3253 460 13.8
Wolverhampton Wanderers 2503 392 11.76
Fulham 2174 349 10.47
AFC Bournemouth 1994 302 9.06
Brighton & Hove Albion 1916 296 8.88
West Ham United 1206 278 8.34
Brentford 1318 269 8.07
Southampton 1548 264 7.92
Leicester City 564 134 4.02
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62280394 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62280394)
We offset it by never qualifying for fucking Europe though.
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We offset it by never qualifying for fucking Europe though.
Also don't us and Leicester generally have to travel the least miles to away games (typically less than half that of Newcastle). Multiply that by up to 3,000 away fans and we are indeed top of the Eco-league.
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Also, if we travelled on scheduled flights rather than charters, those planes were going to fly those miles regardless of whether Villa were on the planes or not.
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Also, if we travelled on scheduled flights rather than charters, those planes were going to fly those miles regardless of whether Villa were on the planes or not.
That's always been my excuse for flying loads. We don't want any Taylor Swifts at VP even if we could do with her height on set pieces.
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Also, if we travelled on scheduled flights rather than charters, those planes were going to fly those miles regardless of whether Villa were on the planes or not.
That's always been my excuse for flying loads. We don't want any Taylor Swifts at VP even if we could do with her height on set pieces.
Or Iron Maiden and Ed Force One. I did love the picture though from some airport in Switzerland where you had Macron's petit plane, Merkel's little thing and Maiden's 747 all parked next to each other.
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I couldn't think of a bigger non-story than this.
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This is nothing to be proud of, and having spoken to people at the club previously when our ratings were low, I didn't get the impression that this was at the top of the list, which it wouldn't be as a football club with a generic email with stock answers and pointing to Premier league.
I believe we should reconsider the title the thread rather than basking in the glory of our contribution to the destruction of our one and only planet. That's all I can say on such a poor show of commercial over environment activities by the club.
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This is nothing to be proud of, and having spoken to people at the club previously when our ratings were low, I didn't get the impression that this was at the top of the list, which it wouldn't be as a football club with a generic email with stock answers and pointing to Premier league.
I believe we should reconsider the title the thread rather than basking in the glory of our contribution to the destruction of our one and only planet. That's all I can say on such a poor show of commercial over environment activities by the club.
This planet is screwed so long as our horrible little species lives on it I’m afraid.
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We shall offset our pre-season CO2 emissions by only having one round trip coach journey in the 3rd round of the FA Cup.
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It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential. But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.
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It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential. But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.
Not sure that’s true Risso, wasn’t there a report from the Boston Consulting Group recently which basically said the biggest opportunity for business to reduce GHG emissions was to massively increase our use of meat replacement products.
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It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential. But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.
Not sure that’s true Risso, wasn’t there a report from the Boston Consulting Group recently which basically said the biggest opportunity for business to reduce GHG emissions was to massively increase our use of meat replacement products.
They were talking about the best value investment for cutting greenhouse gas emissions being the switch to non-animal protein. However, it doesn't cost anything to just do less.
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It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential. But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.
Not sure that’s true Risso, wasn’t there a report from the Boston Consulting Group recently which basically said the biggest opportunity for business to reduce GHG emissions was to massively increase our use of meat replacement products.
They were talking about the best value investment for cutting greenhouse gas emissions being the switch to non-animal protein. However, it doesn't cost anything to just do less.
That's a great line, and one I feel I can fully support. The next time I get a funny look for lying on the sofa reading my book, I'll explain that I'm doing my part to save the world for our children, and would you rather I painted the hallway or our granchildren burn in a toxic dystopia?
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It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential. But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.
Not sure that’s true Risso, wasn’t there a report from the Boston Consulting Group recently which basically said the biggest opportunity for business to reduce GHG emissions was to massively increase our use of meat replacement products.
They were talking about the best value investment for cutting greenhouse gas emissions being the switch to non-animal protein. However, it doesn't cost anything to just do less.
Agree on both points. And yes we need to cut the travel out in pre season or at least minimise or decarbonise things where we can.
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It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential. But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.
I'm not sure there are many environmentalists seriously advocating that we 'stop' eating meat, because behaviour change that drastic is just not realistic. The short-term message is more to reduce meat consumption.
Overall, however, I think you're absolutely right. On an individual level, it's about being aware of our carbon footprints and making efficiencies where we can.
I went to Tesco last week and fancied some apples. I saw a pack marked 'SEASONAL APPLES'. I got to the checkout before realising that by 'seasonal', the packaging actually meant 'seasonal in South Africa'.
I know people my age (my fiancee included) who go vegan, pay countless additional pounds to buy sustainable and carbon-neutral products, and spend hours researching every single product line and brand before buying anything from them. But their effort is pissing in the wind compared to other people my age who eat two steaks, two avocados and three chicken breasts a day to 'maximise' their 'gains', and take three or four intercontinental return flights to get 'grammable' selfies in front of landmarks.
Sporting institutions can set an example by minimising unnecessary travel and climate-destructive practises.
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It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential. But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.
I'm not sure there are many environmentalists seriously advocating that we 'stop' eating meat, because behaviour change that drastic is just not realistic. The short-term message is more to reduce meat consumption.
Overall, however, I think you're absolutely right. On an individual level, it's about being aware of our carbon footprints and making efficiencies where we can.
I went to Tesco last week and fancied some apples. I saw a pack marked 'SEASONAL APPLES'. I got to the checkout before realising that by 'seasonal', the packaging actually meant 'seasonal in South Africa'.
I know people my age (my fiancee included) who go vegan, pay countless additional pounds to buy sustainable and carbon-neutral products, and spend hours researching every single product line and brand before buying anything from them. But their effort is pissing in the wind compared to other people my age who eat two steaks, two avocados and three chicken breasts a day to 'maximise' their 'gains', and take three or four intercontinental return flights to get 'grammable' selfies in front of landmarks.
Sporting institutions can set an example by minimising unnecessary travel and climate-destructive practises.
Sorry Rory but "Grammable" is now a thing? Fucking hell I'm old.
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As a general point that doesn't really belong in the football section of this forum, this putting the onus on individuals to change their habits to save the planet is top level gaslighting by dirty industry and governments. What we can do can help a little, but the only real change can come from governments and corporations.
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I was worried about climate change but then Klopp
comexplained it's just like fixture congestion in football so I'll sleep easier now.