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Title: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 15, 2022, 10:58:29 AM
Dave Collett on another legend.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2022/07/15/the-men-we-couldnt-do-without-2/
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2022, 10:59:19 AM
His debut against Bradford alongside Stuart was brilliant.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: LeeB on July 15, 2022, 11:18:28 AM
Great read that.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: Clive W on July 15, 2022, 11:20:48 AM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: LeeB on July 15, 2022, 11:34:44 AM
Wesley for one, well not retired but unable to play for us again.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: sid1964 on July 15, 2022, 11:37:29 AM
Loved Andy Gray in a Villa shirt the first time around - absolutely fearless in the penalty area - remember the goal against United, the Graydon cross and Gray at the far post rising to head the ball in the net - total football poetry.

The celebration by Gray, arms aloft in front of an adoring Holte End - wonderful memories as a 11 year old
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 15, 2022, 11:38:49 AM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?


Gary Shaw?
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: darren woolley on July 15, 2022, 11:50:07 AM
A very enjoyable read.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 15, 2022, 11:51:30 AM
Great article.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: garyellis on July 15, 2022, 11:52:20 AM
Loved Andy Gray in a Villa shirt the first time around - absolutely fearless in the penalty area - remember the goal against United, the Graydon cross and Gray at the far post rising to head the ball in the net - total football poetry.

The celebration by Gray, arms aloft in front of an adoring Holte End - wonderful memories as a 11 year old
100% this Sid - I assume you are referring to the 3-2 win at Villa Park?
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: Villa Lew on July 15, 2022, 12:39:27 PM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?

Mick Wright retired in 1973 aged 26 having played 318 games for us, made his debut aged 16.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: Nelly on July 15, 2022, 12:56:55 PM
Great read, thank you! So why did Saunders feed that story to the press about Gray? Was it just more of his psychological motivation techniques? The kind he used a lot on Morley? It says a lot for Saunders that, If I'm reading correctly, he built the European Cup winning side off the back of Gray's sale.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Somniloquism on July 15, 2022, 01:39:33 PM
I haven't had chance to read through the whole article but when I did a find on this page, I didn't see Asda mentioned.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: Somniloquism on July 15, 2022, 01:40:23 PM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?

Delaney?
Does Gary Charles count?
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 15, 2022, 01:49:58 PM
Mike Pejic
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: chrisw1 on July 15, 2022, 03:04:21 PM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?

Micah Richards?
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Clive W on July 15, 2022, 03:11:04 PM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?

Micah Richards?

👏👏
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: LeeB on July 15, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?

Micah Richards?

👏👏

Surely the 'over the top laughter' emoji would be more applicable?
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: SaddVillan on July 15, 2022, 04:07:13 PM
Re the final paragraph.

Replace Andy who? with Jack who ?, roll the clock forward and........
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do with out - Andy Gray
Post by: nigel on July 15, 2022, 04:34:33 PM
Thanks - excellent article

We seem to have had a disproportionate number of talented players that have been forced to retire through injury:-

Keith Leonard
Brian Little
Gary Shaw
Luc Nilis
Martin Laursen
John Robson

I’m sure others can add to the list
Is it my imagination or do we seem a bit jinxed?


Gary Shaw?

All down to Ian Bowyer at Forest.
Gary went down injured after Bowyer tackled him
Bowyer, the twat, pulled him back up and fked Gary’s knee
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Villan For Life on July 15, 2022, 04:46:34 PM
What a fantastic read! Andy was one of earliest Villa idols and I was gutted when he left. There’s an often repeated family story about his departure “I loved him like a brother” I told my mom, she wasn’t impressed.

I was thrilled when re rejoined us in the mid-1980’s, it just wasn’t the same though, we were in decline and sadly so was Andy.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Mister E on July 15, 2022, 04:58:23 PM
Loved Andy Gray in a Villa shirt the first time around - absolutely fearless in the penalty area - remember the goal against United, the Graydon cross and Gray at the far post rising to head the ball in the net - total football poetry.

The celebration by Gray, arms aloft in front of an adoring Holte End - wonderful memories as a 11 year old
Absolutely (although I was a little older ...)
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Exeter 77 on July 15, 2022, 08:30:26 PM
Really good as ever from Dave Collett. Andy Gray scored a hat trick in the first live game I ever saw and I thought he would probably do that every game.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 16, 2022, 11:00:12 AM
If anyone was wondering, well probably just me, Holy City Zoo is Subway City now, according to Google.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Weedy on July 16, 2022, 03:03:06 PM
Not the fastest, nor the most skilful, but the most exciting striker at the time.
"He's here, he's there, he's every f***ing where, Andy Gray!"
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: colin69 on July 16, 2022, 03:16:17 PM
I remember having a big poster on my wall as a kid with Andrew Mullen Gray. He was my hero and I was absolutely gutted when he went to Wolves. As I got older I realised Brian Little was the main man.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Rudy65 on July 17, 2022, 09:15:25 PM
Great read. I was on the holte end for the Ipswich game. A great season and arguably the best side in my lifetime. Injuries putting paid to winning the title. Andy was a great player and a big personality but Ron knew best as was proved in 81/82
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: JD on July 19, 2022, 10:34:40 AM
Brilliant read Mr Collett. I was devastated when Andy Gray left Villa, but it's funny how these things turn out.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 19, 2022, 10:36:06 PM
Hey hey Andy Gray how many goals will you score today?

Unplayable in his prime, fearless in the penalty area.
Title: Re: The men we couldn't do without - Andy Gray
Post by: olaftab on July 19, 2022, 10:41:31 PM
Absoultely loved him and was devastated when he left. Left to join fucking Dingles. :'( :-[
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