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Title: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 17, 2022, 11:37:33 AM
Saturday 19th March, 12:30 UK time.

Will we silence the Tarquins? FTF!
3-1 to the mighty Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 17, 2022, 11:45:24 AM
Obviously want the Villa to win. 3 successive victories against these in recent times was brilliant. Can't see it happening Saturday. Our manager's record against top 8 sides doesn't fill me with confidence. Neither does Young at lb. Mings will be back to doing 2 jobs again. Surprise me Villa!
UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 17, 2022, 11:51:22 AM
What BE said.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 17, 2022, 12:03:30 PM
They were very good in the first half against Liverpool last night but once they conceded they went pretty flat.
Hopefully the game took some energy from them. Cash v Martinelli will be a good contest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: bilsim on March 17, 2022, 12:30:32 PM
I hadn't actually realised that Arsenal has elevated themselves from the laughing stock they've been in recent years and are actually looking a good bet to finish in the top 4. Liverpool did well to keep them at arms length in the first half last night.

I'd take a draw here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: supertom on March 17, 2022, 01:13:06 PM
We need an ability to grind out some more draws rather than alternating (generally) between wins and defeats. This is a game where I'd hope we can utilise the spells we might dominate and score a goal or two. The worry is that Arsenal counter very well, so we've got to be less sloppy in the middle of the park that we have been. Potentially this might be a game to consider the 4-3-2-1, rather than the 1-2 up top. Although Bailey was guilty of giving the ball away, he may suit a game like this. If not, Beundia and Coutinho behind Ollie who tends to do well against the Goons.
They're a very different prospect to the side we played last season that's for sure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: chrisw1 on March 17, 2022, 01:27:42 PM
Unfortunately they look very good at the moment.  If we get anything form this it will be a good result.  But I fear a bit of a drubbing, particulalrly with Saka vs Young.  2-0 to the Tarquins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 17, 2022, 01:51:12 PM
Villa 5 Tarquins 0. Watkins 6, 72, Coutinho 37, Chambers 83, Martinez (pen) 89.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 17, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
I don't fancy this at all. 6.30am kick-off for me here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: sid1964 on March 17, 2022, 02:13:24 PM
Just win 2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 17, 2022, 02:16:59 PM
1-2 Sammy Nelson and Alan Sunderland for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Drummond on March 17, 2022, 02:20:09 PM
I don't fancy this at all. 6.30am kick-off for me here.

Just stay up all night on mezcal and it won't feel so bad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: LeonW on March 17, 2022, 02:45:20 PM
Villa 5 Tarquins 0. Watkins 6, 72, Coutinho 37, Chambers 83, Martinez (pen) 89.

Loved this prediction. Particularly a Martinez penalty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: CT Villan on March 17, 2022, 02:57:23 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Konsa come in for Chambers and less likely, Sanson for JJ.

A very tricky game, but if we score first we have a decent chance of winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 17, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
I don't fancy this at all. 6.30am kick-off for me here.

Just stay up all night on mezcal and it won't feel so bad.

It's on the list of options.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: nigel on March 17, 2022, 03:39:52 PM
1-2 Sammy Nelson and Alan Sunderland for them.

As long as Ted Drake doesn’t come on we’ll be fine 👍
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: darren woolley on March 17, 2022, 03:40:06 PM
1-1 Draw for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: ventnorVillain on March 17, 2022, 03:45:48 PM
1-2 Sammy Nelson and Alan Sunderland for them.

As long as Ted Drake doesn’t come on we’ll be fine 👍

Or Tony Woodcock
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Axl Rose on March 17, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
3-1 to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: brontebilly on March 17, 2022, 04:10:41 PM
Konsa and Buendia for Chambers and one of Ings/Watkins I'd say is how Gerrard will go. Their RB last night (Cedric), who I presume is a backup, looked hopeless v Liverpool. If he starts again we need to target him. Saka v Young could be a big mismatch alright. Switch McGinn from the right of Luiz to the left of him I think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 17, 2022, 05:03:48 PM
1-0 Saunders pen after  David O'Leary fouls Yorke in the box. A 1-0 massacre.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Tayls_7 on March 17, 2022, 05:23:39 PM
Late Michael Thomas goal to clinch the victory for Arsenal long after the majority of their fans have left the stadium.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: eamonn on March 17, 2022, 06:30:48 PM
They'll be knackered from the Hi-NRG game against Liverpool last night. We'll don the Mr Motivator lycra and put them to the sword.

1-0 Coutinho free-kick in front of the Holte, oh yes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 17, 2022, 06:42:00 PM
They'll be knackered from the Hi-NRG game against Liverpool last night. We'll don the Mr Motivator lycra and put them to the sword.

1-0 Coutinho free-kick in front of the Holte, oh yes.

You're right of course, except it'll be a 20+ yard curler from open play à la Merson against Coventry.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 17, 2022, 08:05:57 PM
Villa 5 Tarquins 0. Watkins 6, 72, Coutinho 37, Chambers 83, Martinez (pen) 89.

Loved this prediction. Particularly a Martinez penalty.

Not a chance. Barry will take it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: robbo1874 on March 17, 2022, 10:13:16 PM
I don't fancy this at all. 6.30am kick-off for me here.

Just stay up all night on mezcal and it won't feel so bad.

It's on the list of options.
8.30 pm in QLD. Perfect. I might head into town to watch it if it’s on TV. Usually just watch on my phone at some ungodly hour in the morning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 18, 2022, 08:42:00 AM
Just reading Odegaard might be out for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Drummond on March 18, 2022, 09:13:44 AM
Konsa and Buendia for Chambers and one of Ings/Watkins I'd say is how Gerrard will go. Their RB last night (Cedric), who I presume is a backup, looked hopeless v Liverpool. If he starts again we need to target him. Saka v Young could be a big mismatch alright. Switch McGinn from the right of Luiz to the left of him I think.

Re Konsa and Buendia, I think you might be right. I'd like to see Sanson get a start though and I can't see him changing too many players.

Re Cedric, Bailey or Traore should definitely get some minutes against him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Dr Butler on March 18, 2022, 09:33:11 AM
any type of win please Villa.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 18, 2022, 09:43:01 AM
This will be tough Arsenal look pretty good at the moment, even in defeat against Liverpool.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 18, 2022, 09:44:40 AM
With Luis reportedly injured if Sanson does not start he never will.

I would revert back to Watkins in front of 2 x 10's
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Drummond on March 18, 2022, 10:13:53 AM
We need to play hard and fast in this game.

Arteta not confirming any injuries in his press conference.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 18, 2022, 10:30:11 AM
See Arteta is playing the too many games in  too short of time card.Well stay in your technical area and fuck off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: eamonn on March 18, 2022, 10:31:25 AM
With Luis reportedly injured if Sanson does not start he never will.

I would revert back to Watkins in front of 2 x 10's

Listen, we want Douglas to be the best version of himself. At the moment his mouth is pretty battered from West Ham's rough treatment but that'll only stop him kissing and talking. We need him to let his feet do the talking and get into areas that can hert Arsenal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 18, 2022, 11:17:34 AM
With Luis reportedly injured if Sanson does not start he never will.

I would revert back to Watkins in front of 2 x 10's

Listen, we want Douglas to be the best version of himself. At the moment his mouth is pretty battered from West Ham's rough treatment but that'll only stop him kissing and talking. We need him to let his feet do the talking and get into areas that can hert Arsenal.
He was training in the little vid on the OS and looked perfectly ok.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 18, 2022, 02:20:38 PM
Konsa and Buendia for Chambers and one of Ings/Watkins I'd say is how Gerrard will go. Their RB last night (Cedric), who I presume is a backup, looked hopeless v Liverpool. If he starts again we need to target him. Saka v Young could be a big mismatch alright. Switch McGinn from the right of Luiz to the left of him I think.

Re Konsa and Buendia, I think you might be right. I'd like to see Sanson get a start though and I can't see him changing too many players.

Re Cedric, Bailey or Traore should definitely get some minutes against him.

Yep this might be the changes made and team too, Ings to drop out for this one, Watkins might want to show Arsenal a thing or two maybe?
Tough game, but im not going to VP with any kind of trepidation, we can beat these.
2-1 (Coutinhio, Watkins)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Legion on March 18, 2022, 02:22:53 PM
0-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Drummond on March 18, 2022, 02:48:52 PM
If Luiz is out, then I can see this...

                  Martinez
Cash   Konsa      Mings       Young
                 McGinn
      Buendia          Ramsey
                Coutinho
     Watkins        Ings       
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Mister E on March 18, 2022, 03:35:05 PM
If Luiz is out, then I can see this...

                  Martinez
Cash   Konsa      Mings       Young
                 McGinn
      Buendia          Ramsey
                Coutinho
     Watkins        Ings       
Last time out they battered us through the middle. This line-up looks a little powder-puff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: trinityoap on March 18, 2022, 04:34:02 PM
Arsenal complaining about short time between games. Is this the same Arseanal who refused our request to put a game back by 24 hours some years ago?(just noticed the rather appropriate typo!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Drummond on March 18, 2022, 04:38:40 PM
If Luiz is out, then I can see this...

                  Martinez
Cash   Konsa      Mings       Young
                 McGinn
      Buendia          Ramsey
                Coutinho
     Watkins        Ings       
Last time out they battered us through the middle. This line-up looks a little powder-puff.

What would you change though?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Risso on March 18, 2022, 04:47:08 PM
Definitely not Watkings. One or the other.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Damo70 on March 18, 2022, 06:06:14 PM
We need an ability to grind out some more draws rather than alternating (generally) between wins and defeats. This is a game where I'd hope we can utilise the spells we might dominate and score a goal or two. The worry is that Arsenal counter very well, so we've got to be less sloppy in the middle of the park that we have been. Potentially this might be a game to consider the 4-3-2-1, rather than the 1-2 up top. Although Bailey was guilty of giving the ball away, he may suit a game like this. If not, Beundia and Coutinho behind Ollie who tends to do well against the Goons.
They're a very different prospect to the side we played last season that's for sure.

Ollie is a boyhood Gooner. I hope I am wrong but I don't fancy us. Plus Arsenal are going on their annual late run of good form now that the real pressure for league success is off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Steve67 on March 18, 2022, 06:19:43 PM
Put big Tim in there!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Skerra on March 18, 2022, 07:14:49 PM
It’s strange reading the comments on here. If we had played Liverpool on Wednesday night and Arsenal hadn’t had a match, everyone would be saying we’ll be knackered and they’ll be fresh. We would also be saying it’s not fair guv as the turnaround time is so short!!
Having said all that, I’d still settle for a point but, prove me wrong Villa and get all 3!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: Hillbilly on March 18, 2022, 11:56:42 PM
I don't fancy this at all. 6.30am kick-off for me here.

Just stay up all night on mezcal and it won't feel so bad.

It's on the list of options.
8.30 pm in QLD. Perfect. I might head into town to watch it if it’s on TV. Usually just watch on my phone at some ungodly hour in the morning.
You sure about that? I think it’s an 11.30 kick off Melbourne time and you’re an hour behind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Express Chat
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 19, 2022, 05:56:58 AM
1-2 Sammy Nelson and Alan Sunderland for them.

As long as Ted Drake doesn’t come on we’ll be fine 👍

My Dad's mate was at that game and said we played well, but pretty much every time Drake touched the ball, he scored
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Perthvillan on March 19, 2022, 09:24:54 AM
Sorry Robbo.
It's a 8.30 pm kick off here in Perth, Western Australia.
Just about to go out with the wife for our anniversary dinner.
Planning on getting home in time for Ko.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 19, 2022, 10:10:30 AM
I'm feeling lucky. Come on Villa make my day...

2-1 us.  Don't care who scores!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on March 19, 2022, 10:36:22 AM
I don't fancy this at all. 6.30am kick-off for me here.

Just stay up all night on mezcal and it won't feel so bad.

It's on the list of options.
8.30 pm in QLD. Perfect. I might head into town to watch it if it’s on TV. Usually just watch on my phone at some ungodly hour in the morning.
You sure about that? I think it’s an 11.30 kick off Melbourne time and you’re an hour behind.
Says 9.30 on Optus, but that’s usually EST so I thought 8.30 here. Looks like 9.30 ko. Off to the pub now
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 19, 2022, 11:26:00 AM
It’s strange reading the comments on here. If we had played Liverpool on Wednesday night and Arsenal hadn’t had a match, everyone would be saying we’ll be knackered and they’ll be fresh. We would also be saying it’s not fair guv as the turnaround time is so short!!
Having said all that, I’d still settle for a point but, prove me wrong Villa and get all 3!!

We'll be knackered from Cheltenham I bet.

Really hope Gerrard has some plan for protecting the flanks today as Young potentially in 1v1s against Saka dosen't exactly fill me with confidence. Cash also had his poorest game of the season away to them when Tierney and Smith Rowe were overruning him on the right.

If we could protect those areas and do a good job nulifying Odegaard I think we'll get a draw today.

1-1.
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