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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on March 12, 2022, 06:53:20 AM
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Sunday 13th March, 2pm, that London.
2-2. Ings and McGinn.
Latest ever pre-match thread?
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I think this will be a tough one, they've had our number since we came back up. Although reading their forum the majority seem to want to rest anybody thats important to them for the Sevilla game.
Would probably take a draw but if Moyes is of the same mindset as the fans then hopefully a win.
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A tough game on their stupidly narrow pitch. They are beginning to look a bit leggy. Antonio looks like he could not hit a cows are with a banjo, so he will get a couple.
I wonder when that wanker sendo will turn up.
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
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1. We know it is a thread. ;-)
2. 0-4 just to wake some of the sports journalists up. And to FTCJEPALEBBF!
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
Apart from the greasy film of Fairy Liquid on theirs.
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
Apart from the greasy film of Fairy Liquid on theirs.
At least the ball is clean.
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2-2 Digne and Ings
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I think it’ll be a 1-1.
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Win. Won't be able to handle Phil.
They will be knackered after midweek game v very good team. Moyes another who never really knew how to utilise squad effectively
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Tough game but we're on a roll and to show progression we need to start beating teams competing for the top 6 positions.
This would be a good game in which to start that trend.
UTV!
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A tough game on their stupidly narrow pitch. They are beginning to look a bit leggy. Antonio looks like he could not hit a cows are with a banjo, so he will get a couple.
I wonder when that wanker sendo will turn up.
Have I missed something? I thought Sendo was ok.
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A tough game on their stupidly narrow pitch. They are beginning to look a bit leggy. Antonio looks like he could not hit a cows are with a banjo, so he will get a couple.
I wonder when that wanker sendo will turn up.
Have I missed something? I thought Sendo was ok.
On here he's best mates and friendly. On some Appy Ammers forum he regularly slags us.
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I’ve just read we haven’t won against these since 2015.
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I’ve just read we haven’t won against these since 2015.
Well we were in the Championship for 3 of those years to be fair. But we also hadn't beaten Southampton at home or Palace away since god was a lad, and those records were happily smashed apart.
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They lost to fucking Leeds, and regularly play Craig Dawson.
4-0 us.
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They lost to fucking Leeds, and regularly play Craig Dawson.
4-0 us.
Too right.
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I’ve just read we haven’t won against these since 2015.
To be fair we didnt play them for 3 seasons when we were in the championship. Since coming back up, those two draws in our first year back up when both teams struggled, but they’ve beaten us 3 on the bounce since. Thought we utterly outplayed them at their place last year, but dodgy defending from set pieces, glaring misses (Trez, Watkins pen) and a fingernail VAR offside did us. They’ve pretty much outplayed us in the last two games at VP.
Tough game this, they are on an iffy run, but not getting hammered by anyone, usually the odd goal and Antonio is a different proposition (even when not scoring) to Bamford or Che Adams. There midfield two dominated us at Villa Park in October as well.
Still we’re flying at the minute and should give them a good game. Id take Ramsey out for a rest for Sanson and otherwise keep the same team.
Would take a draw but going for an optimistic 0-2 (Coutinhio and Watkins with a late one on the counter).
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We have a tough run of fixtures coming up, so good to be in some run of form going into those fixtures. West Ham seem a bit stodgy just lately, so I expect us to win by a 0-1 margin with McGinn to toe poke one home from 30 yards.
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Tough but interesting game.
With the new formation we have every chance.
Like to see Sanson start or at least come on HT.
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This game will be a good benchmark for where we are under Gerrard. they're a good team who utterly smashed us to pieces at Villa Park earlier in the season.
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I thought winning 3 on the bounce was a stretch but after Thursday I think 4 is a distinct possibility. We are bouncing, they are a bit flat so we go into this with much confidence. I would be happy with a draw but will demonstrate rare optimism and go all out for the win.
1-2
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
there is some sort of optical illusion going on then, if you look at the distance penalty are to by line it looks too narrow.
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We haven't won 4 premier league games in a row since the start of last season, when everything felt brilliant and like we were on the cusp of something special. I would really like to feel that way again please.
1-2, Watkins & Ings
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Sorry for repeating myself again for the 4th time but despite posting I rarely use the prediction poll until 3 games ago and I've predicted a loss for us ever since.
Another loss it is for us then.
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
there is some sort of optical illusion going on then, if you look at the distance penalty are to by line it looks too narrow.
It's a truly shit stadium for watching football in.
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
there is some sort of optical illusion going on then, if you look at the distance penalty are to by line it looks too narrow.
It's a truly shit stadium for watching football in.
Agreed.
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
They really are just a London-based dodgy knock off version of us, aren't they?
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Absolutely no idea about this result. Thought we’d smash Leeds at home , we drew. Thought we’d beat Watford, we lost. Thought we’d beat Newcastle, we lost. Thought we’d draw against Brighton we won. Thought we’d draw against Saints, we won. Only one I’ve picked recently is Leeds away. I’ll go with a draw 2-2. But who knows with Villa.
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
They really are just a London-based dodgy knock off version of us, aren't they?
That's like comparing Lonsdale trainers to a pair of Louis Vuitton shoes.
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Good news is Bowen's out and think Moyes might rest some of their players for next Thursday, still gonna be tough, I going 2-1 Villa.
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A tough game on their stupidly narrow pitch. They are beginning to look a bit leggy. Antonio looks like he could not hit a cows are with a banjo, so he will get a couple.
I wonder when that wanker sendo will turn up.
Have I missed something? I thought Sendo was ok.
On here he's best mates and friendly. On some Appy Ammers forum he regularly slags us.
Blimey. I had some banter on a match thread once on KUMB and suddenly it’s like I’m the bloke that’s cheated on his wife. I’ve only ever been courteous on here, given I am a “guest” as such. Every time Villa play West Ham I see plenty of comments on here pasting us but I don’t take it to heart.
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Don't worry about it Sendo, you've always been a decent poster on here. Should be a good game tomorrow, I think we're overdue a good performance and win against you, the game earlier in the season was a disgraceful non-performance from us.
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Anyway, tough game this for West Ham. You lot seem to be scoring for fun and playing good football. Coutinho has hit the ground running and I like the look of the young lad Ramsey. Digne is also a good buy for you at LB and seems an improvement on Targett who I never thought much of.
We’re starting to get to the point where lack of squad depth is becoming an issue. After this we have Seville again in the week then Spurs. Many West Ham fans want to rest and rotate to keep players fresh for the EL in the week, but honestly our options arent that numerous, and Moyes seems to be constitutionally averse to squad rotation of any kind.
Bowen looks like he is still out which is bad for us. Most likely Benrahma will come back in for Vlasic, although he looks lost at the moment, constantly trying to beat too many players before cutting inside and blazing the ball over the bar.
On the plus side Antonio has looked much sharper the last few games, and I fancy him to get a goal. Soucek has also looked much better of late at a time when Rice hasnt so much.
Earlier in the season we were scoring for fun but letting in too many, now weve tightened up at the back but keep missing sitters. I cant guess the result, but I expect it to be tight. Probably a 2-1 either way and hopefully a good game.
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A tough game on their stupidly narrow pitch. They are beginning to look a bit leggy. Antonio looks like he could not hit a cows are with a banjo, so he will get a couple.
I wonder when that wanker sendo will turn up.
Have I missed something? I thought Sendo was ok.
On here he's best mates and friendly. On some Appy Ammers forum he regularly slags us.
Blimey. I had some banter on a match thread once on KUMB and suddenly it’s like I’m the bloke that’s cheated on his wife. I’ve only ever been courteous on here, given I am a “guest” as such. Every time Villa play West Ham I see plenty of comments on here pasting us but I don’t take it to heart.
You slag us on your own forum then come on here being friendly. That's not banter it's being two-faced.
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A tough game on their stupidly narrow pitch. They are beginning to look a bit leggy. Antonio looks like he could not hit a cows are with a banjo, so he will get a couple.
I wonder when that wanker sendo will turn up.
Have I missed something? I thought Sendo was ok.
On here he's best mates and friendly. On some Appy Ammers forum he regularly slags us.
Blimey. I had some banter on a match thread once on KUMB and suddenly it’s like I’m the bloke that’s cheated on his wife. I’ve only ever been courteous on here, given I am a “guest” as such. Every time Villa play West Ham I see plenty of comments on here pasting us but I don’t take it to heart.
You slag us on your own forum then come on here being friendly. That's not banter it's being two-faced.
exactly, we know what you really think, it’s in writing.
So don’t come on here being all matey.
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Good to hear from you again, sendô. As Risso says, you've always been a positive poster on H&V. I've got close friends who support Man U, Newcastle and Blues and what I say to them about their team is rather different from what I might say about them to fellow Villa fans.
Can you, or anyone, confirm this? I've heard that after the match the Met escort away fans via a circuitous route to a station of the police's choosing, regardless of where individual fans want to go to. This used to happen at St Andrew's and I won't go there again (if we're ever in the same division) because it's so frustrating and tedious. What can you tell us about the arrangements at WHU? I'm hoping to leave from Pudding Mill DLR to get back to Sussex.
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Can you, or anyone, confirm this? I've heard that after the match the Met escort away fans via a circuitous route to a station of the police's choosing, regardless of where individual fans want to go to. This used to happen at St Andrew's and I won't go there again (if we're ever in the same division) because it's so frustrating and tedious. What can you tell us about the arrangements at WHU? I'm hoping to leave from Pudding Mill DLR to get back to Sussex.
Yeah, Im not sure the route they take for away fans but it’s long and tedious for the home fans, having to wait at the stop go signs and having to walk the long way around Westfield to Stratford station. It normally takes 20 to 30 minutes. Certainly no better than the Boleyn used to be, and there’s fewer pubs nearby too.
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2-0.
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Win. Won't be able to handle Phil.
They will be knackered after midweek game v very good team. Moyes another who never really knew how to utilise squad effectively
We had a midweek game against a very ….. actually it was Leeds wasn’t it? As you were.
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Sendo, what is WHU's priority - to go as deep as possible in the Wafer Cup or keep-up the challenge for 4th?
Hard to call which is more likely, winning the Europa and gain CL entry or finishing 4th (given that Arsenal have 3 games in ahead and are 3 points ahead and Spurs are level on points with two games in hand).
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Moyes on Villa...did he/how many times did he turn us down as manager I wonder?
I’ve always thought a lot of Aston Villa.
I said, from last year, that Aston Villa have got good players. They’ve got some really talented young players. They’ve signed well in the transfer market.
The Premier League is full of good teams, whoever you play at the moment. There’s a lot of really good, competitive games in the Premier League and Aston Villa will certainly be that.
They’ve had some really good results, but I think the Premier League this year is so close. I think there are very little between the teams. Of course, there’s a bit between Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea and maybe the rest, but I think after that there is very little between the teams from top to bottom.
You look at the improvement in Newcastle United and the results that Burnley have picked up in recent weeks. I think we’re seeing different momentum swings in the season, and I think Aston Villa are in a good moment, so we’re going to need to play well to get the points.
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Sendo, what is WHU's priority - to go as deep as possible in the Wafer Cup or keep-up the challenge for 4th?
Hard to call which is more likely, winning the Europa and gain CL entry or finishing 4th (given that Arsenal have 3 games in ahead and are 3 points ahead and Spurs are level on points with two games in hand).
To be honest I think 4th has slipped away from us now, unless Arsenal have a sudden downturn in form. Their 3 games in hand on us are vs Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs so it’s still possible, but in truth we were in the driving seat but dropped points all too often with poor decisions at key moments. Weve lost both games to Man U this year for instance in the last minute, so we should really be 2 points better off and them 4 less. Thats football though.
I dont really think Moyes is capable of having a priority. He’ll go for both, and honestly as much as Id love us to win the Europa League, we’re a way away from the final yet. Its too soon to throw everything at Europe. The main aim for the club should be getting into Europe regularly now were there, and using the money to build the squad.
We may well go out to Seville this Thursday so it might be moot soon anyway.
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A win here would be fantastic. I can't see it coming but I didn't think we'd win the last two games.
Please win.
FTF
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One change for me.
Sanson for Ramsay. Ings for 70 mins then either Bailey or Traore to terror their aging back 4.
Confidence must be sky high, I actually fancy us for this
Cue 2-0 loss then :-\
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
Please send your best regards.
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Most of Walford Square seem to support these kit stealing wankers. Another start to finish 90 minutes of dominance with 3 or 4 goals and a clean sheet would not go amiss.
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One change for me.
Sanson for Ramsay. Ings for 70 mins then either Bailey or Traore to terror their aging back 4.
Confidence must be sky high, I actually fancy us for this
Cue 2-0 loss then :-\
Agree about the Sanson for Ramsey change. Not really reflection on how Ramsey has been playing, just to keep him fresh really and to have another look at Sanson.
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
Please send your best regards.
I would be happy to receive your best wishes too.
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This will be tough game. They’re a well drilled side and got some right units play for them. I think if we play at pace we’ll stand a chance.
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
Please send your best regards.
I would be happy to receive your best wishes too.
Can you also add me to the mailing list.
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If they win it will be down to Declan Rice - he's the difference for them, like Coutinho is for us.
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If they win it will be down to Declan Rice - he's the difference for them, like Coutinho is for us.
Thought Rice was overrated before this season.
Watching him this season he really is the real deal.
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If they win it will be down to Declan Rice - he's the difference for them, like Coutinho is for us.
Thought Rice was overrated before this season.
Watching him this season he really is the real deal.
Same for me
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I would love to receive an alternative to hesg as well please.
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
Please send your best regards.
If anyone could help me solve this problem as well I’d be grateful!
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Spammers don’t seem to really fancy this one. Some fair points made about Villa early on. But if you scroll to the end, they’re all giddy about Sevilla next week:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G88vZiIongc
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
Please send your best regards.
If anyone could help me solve this problem as well I’d be grateful!
One more to the DM list also please
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
Please send your best regards.
If anyone could help me solve this problem as well I’d be grateful!
One more to the DM list also please
Me too, please :)
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Nabbed a last minute ticket. Could anyone advise best way to travel by train from Euston? Cheers
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Personally I'm going to walk from Euston to St Pancras and get a train to Stratford International (5 mins journey) which is apparently a 15 minute walk from the ground.
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Nabbed a last minute ticket. Could anyone advise best way to travel by train from Euston? Cheers
Northern line to bank, then central line to Stratford.
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Every time I ve seen West ham tis season they seems really difficult to play against, good defensively and some good defenders (Ogbonna) and scoring on the break (Bowen and Antonio running the ball into goal - Lukaku style). Ogbonna? and Bowen out a miss for them. We are in good form and if we come out like we did at Ellen road (how good that win was) we do them 2-1 i predict. And CT Villain I very much want to be PM ed before kick off too.
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Nabbed a last minute ticket. Could anyone advise best way to travel by train from Euston? Cheers
Northern line to bank, then central line to Stratford.
Surely much, much quicker to do one stop to St Pancras (Victoria or Northern) then overland train to Stratford International.
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Nabbed a last minute ticket. Could anyone advise best way to travel by train from Euston? Cheers
Northern line to bank, then central line to Stratford.
Northern Line via Bank is closed until May.
Either:
Go Northern Line southbound to Waterloo, change for the Jubilee Line eastbound to Stratford.
Or:
Go Victoria Line southbound to Green Park, change for Jubilee Line eastbound to Stratford.
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Nabbed a last minute ticket. Could anyone advise best way to travel by train from Euston? Cheers
Northern line to bank, then central line to Stratford.
Surely much, much quicker to do one stop to St Pancras (Victoria or Northern) then overland train to Stratford International.
Or this way, but quicker to walk to St Pancras. Come out of Euston and turn left along the Euston Road. It's a ten minute walk.
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Massive game today.
At the moment we have an outside chance of European football next season. Lose today, no chance, draw today, little chance, win today, a realistic chance.
We are building a squad that needs more matches in a season to give all players game time and maintain morale. Stevie G is used to playing 50 plus matches a season and is building a squad to service that.
Only 38 league matches next season and our usual shyte cup draws could set us back!! For this reason, I can see us throwing the kitchen sink at the Hammers today and bursting their bubbles.
1-2 to the Villa
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Euston to Stratford getting the high speed line from St Pancras is probably best, otherwise get Metropolitan line to Liv St then you can do either central line or any number of main line rail or TFL rail to Stratford. Avoid Jubilee line which takes the long route south of the river.
Also I have several alternatives to the issues mentioned above by andyh which im happy to share if needed.
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I think Sanson should come in for Ramsey. Give him a rest and give Sanson some game time.
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Isn’t there a tickets and travel thread?
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
there is some sort of optical illusion going on then, if you look at the distance penalty are to by line it looks too narrow.
I suspect it's because of the camera angle as it's so far away from the pitch.
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Their pitch is the standard size, identical to ours.
there is some sort of optical illusion going on then, if you look at the distance penalty are to by line it looks too narrow.
I suspect it's because of the camera angle as it's so far away from the pitch.
And it’s a one tiered stand so the angle of the pitch will seem narrow. I quite like it tbf
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Isn’t there a tickets and travel thread?
There is, but as its match day, I thought I would get a faster response..
Thanks to all for the travel advice.
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Has anybody got a link for the game please?
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Good to hear from you again, sendô. As Risso says, you've always been a positive poster on H&V. I've got close friends who support Man U, Newcastle and Blues and what I say to them about their team is rather different from what I might say about them to fellow Villa fans.
Can you, or anyone, confirm this? I've heard that after the match the Met escort away fans via a circuitous route to a station of the police's choosing, regardless of where individual fans want to go to. This used to happen at St Andrew's and I won't go there again (if we're ever in the same division) because it's so frustrating and tedious. What can you tell us about the arrangements at WHU? I'm hoping to leave from Pudding Mill DLR to get back to Sussex.
Happened to me once, but that was when Billy Bonds was manager and they had MacAvennie up front. We bossed the game but lost at the last minute. Have had a dislike of them ever since.
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Also I have several alternatives to the issues mentioned above by andyh which im happy to share if needed.
I'm struggling with some of those issue and would appreciate a remedy please.
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The biggest single issue about the game is how the bloody hell am I going to watch it given that Hesgoal have gone all ethical.
check your messages, pm sent.
Please send your best regards.
I would be happy to receive your best wishes too.
Can you also add me to the mailing list.
Please let me know how things are.
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Also I have several alternatives to the issues mentioned above by andyh which im happy to share if needed.
I am having issues and require assistance, many thanks!
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Same team as Thursday at Leeds
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Also I have several alternatives to the issues mentioned above by andyh which im happy to share if needed.
I am having issues and require assistance, many thanks!
And me!
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With Brighton losing yesterday, Leicester away at Arsenal, if, if, we can get something from today to put a bit of distance between us, would be lovely.
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Anybody know who is on the bench
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Bench:
Olsen; Konsa; A Young; Iroegbunah; Sanson; Buendia; Chukwemeka; Bailey; Traore
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Also I have several alternatives to the issues mentioned above by andyh which im happy to share if needed.
I am having issues and require assistance, many thanks!
And me!
Yes please Sendo.
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Also I have several alternatives to the issues mentioned above by andyh which im happy to share if needed.
I am having issues and require assistance, many thanks!
And me!
Yes please Sendo.
Yes please Sendo - I am also have issues with this troublesome problem
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Anyone starting a match thread?
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Anyone starting a match thread?
Ignore this :)
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Also I have several alternatives to the issues mentioned above by andyh which im happy to share if needed.
Happy to have you pm me.
I am having issues and require assistance, many thanks!
And me!