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Title: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on March 01, 2022, 04:52:02 PM
Date: Saturday 5th March
Kick-off: 15:00 GMT
Venue: Villa Park

We are currently 12th and could go up to 10th if we win and other results are favourable. We are winless in our last 6 home games against Southampton (D2 L4) we have lost the last three conceding 11 goals in the process.

Southampton are unbeaten in five PL games (W3 D2), winning both their last two by a 2-0 scoreline.

Aston Villa are, well, Aston Villa.
FTF! 3-1 to a resurgent Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 01, 2022, 05:32:20 PM
We will win. Somehow. Ings to score and moon the Saints fans.

2-0 Ings and Coutinho
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 01, 2022, 05:39:17 PM
Keep Le Tissier quiet and we have a chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 01, 2022, 05:50:06 PM
To finish above them, and potentially nab a top-half finish, I think we need to beat them. Unfortunately, they're playing their best football since Hassenhuthl took charge. Hard-earned draw  most likely but I'd love Ings to pop-up with a late VAR'd winner (ironic twist on his last-gasp 'goal' against us last year).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 01, 2022, 06:04:49 PM
We've not won at home in 3 months and unfortunately I can't see a win here. 15 minute spells in games just isn't enough.
We need to be on the front foot and dominate, including possession. Buendia taking the fall for the Watford result to accommodate 2 strikers won't help us to dominate, so he needs to be re-instated at the expense of Ings. UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 01, 2022, 06:08:46 PM
What BE said.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Aldridge Villa on March 01, 2022, 06:21:18 PM
Those wassocks from Wessex are long overdue a good beating at VP.
Nil nil it is then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Nev on March 01, 2022, 06:29:56 PM
I think the rest of the season will see us still trying to find an identity under this manager and a visit from an in form team puts that under pressure. I'm happy that what patently wasn't working has been addressed but we're not out of the woods yet. On the positive side I hope Ollie's goal will give him a boost and I back him to strike again in an entertaining draw.

2-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: manic-road on March 01, 2022, 06:37:50 PM
Saints are in form and full of confidence, we have a poor record against them and I think we will lose 1-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: dorsetvillian on March 01, 2022, 06:58:23 PM
It's about time we beat the Scummers at home. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: wittonwarrior on March 01, 2022, 07:06:15 PM
If we win it won't be pretty - never is against Southampton.  Can see a 0-0 on the cards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: mrfuse on March 01, 2022, 07:39:32 PM
I post in the Pre-match thread, but I never predict in the poll. I did against Brighton and predicted a Brighton win, so it makes sense that I go for a Southampton win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 01, 2022, 07:45:30 PM
we'll twat them 4-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2022, 09:41:56 PM
0-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Footy-Vill on March 01, 2022, 10:45:49 PM
Give away no free kicks for JWP specials and we have a chance.

Southampton have an FA Cup match tomorrow v West Ham hopefully a long night extra time and a some short term injuries!

1-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: gpbarr on March 02, 2022, 03:54:25 AM
1-0 Villa, temporary joy before Global Thermonuclear War reminds us it’s not that important 🧐
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: PhilVill on March 02, 2022, 07:31:45 AM
That's the spirit! 😅
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: charleeco7 on March 02, 2022, 07:55:38 AM
Me and my lad are likely to be at the ground early this weekend, could anyone tell me what time the players arrive and if you are still able to get autographs or photographs from them?  Sorry to put this on here but couldn’t find the answer in the search and didn’t want to start a new thread.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Clampy on March 02, 2022, 08:27:42 AM
Me and my lad are likely to be at the ground early this weekend, could anyone tell me what time the players arrive and if you are still able to get autographs or photographs from them?  Sorry to put this on here but couldn’t find the answer in the search and didn’t want to start a new thread.

The last time I walked past the area where the players park and sign autographs, it was all covered up so you couldn't see them but that may have been because of Covid. Not sure if that's still the case. As for the time they get there, I'd guess around 12-30- 1ish, unless Gerrard has them in at dawn.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Three Spires Villa on March 02, 2022, 09:39:53 AM
Not feeling confident but a 1-0 win for the Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: sid1964 on March 02, 2022, 09:51:15 AM
tough game - but we will grind out a 2-1 win
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: darren woolley on March 02, 2022, 10:20:57 AM
1-1 Draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Reuben on March 02, 2022, 10:45:52 AM
1-1
Cascarino for us, Le Tissier for them

Paul Rideout to be substituted for someone called Alan Shearer
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 02, 2022, 11:57:30 AM
On the plus side Ings won't be scoring for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Damo70 on March 02, 2022, 12:01:09 PM
I believe Southampton have a tough game at home to West Ham tonight. I reckon Villa v Southampton will be a draw. I would say that both Villa and Southampton are two of the most unpredictable teams to call in the top filght.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2022, 12:01:41 PM
On the plus side Ings won't be scoring for them.

Yeh, now you’ve gone and done it. Last minute own goal incoming. Thanks, thanks a lot. JON
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Damo70 on March 02, 2022, 12:02:16 PM
On the plus side Ings won't be scoring for them.

Unless he scores an own goal  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Allan C on March 02, 2022, 12:23:04 PM
1-1  a tight game against a permanently underestimated team. Ings for us
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: rougegorge on March 02, 2022, 01:09:59 PM
High on the team talk hopefully...do not to concede any soft free kicks within shooting distance or near our penalty area. Someone has a good track record against us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 02, 2022, 01:12:04 PM
On the plus side Ings won't be scoring for them.

Unless he scores an own goal  ;)

We don't need no Ivo Stas thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on March 02, 2022, 01:27:46 PM
On the plus side Ings won't be scoring for them.

Unless he scores an own goal  ;)

We don't need no Ivo Stas thing.

No Slovak stoppers, always injured.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 02, 2022, 01:53:20 PM
On the plus side Ings won't be scoring for them.

Unless he scores an own goal  ;)

We don't need no Ivo Stas thing.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 02, 2022, 01:58:56 PM
Me and my lad are likely to be at the ground early this weekend, could anyone tell me what time the players arrive and if you are still able to get autographs or photographs from them?  Sorry to put this on here but couldn’t find the answer in the search and didn’t want to start a new thread.

The last time I walked past the area where the players park and sign autographs, it was all covered up so you couldn't see them but that may have been because of Covid. Not sure if that's still the case. As for the time they get there, I'd guess around 12-30- 1ish, unless Gerrard has them in at dawn.


The screening was indeed part of the Covid protocols but was removed at last game. Players arrive on coach between 12.15 and 12.45 usually and just before the opposition
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on March 02, 2022, 02:40:52 PM
High on the team talk hopefully...do not to concede any soft free kicks within shooting distance or near our penalty area. Someone has a good track record against us.

Best not play Luiz then, that's his speciality.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: charleeco7 on March 02, 2022, 05:07:28 PM
Me and my lad are likely to be at the ground early this weekend, could anyone tell me what time the players arrive and if you are still able to get autographs or photographs from them?  Sorry to put this on here but couldn’t find the answer in the search and didn’t want to start a new thread.

The last time I walked past the area where the players park and sign autographs, it was all covered up so you couldn't see them but that may have been because of Covid. Not sure if that's still the case. As for the time they get there, I'd guess around 12-30- 1ish, unless Gerrard has them in at dawn.


The screening was indeed part of the Covid protocols but was removed at last game. Players arrive on coach between 12.15 and 12.45 usually and just before the opposition

Thank you both.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Steve67 on March 02, 2022, 07:45:39 PM
9 changes to the cup side tonight. Shame. I was hoping for a full blooded cup tie at West Ham, a sending off and a couple of injuries. We will just have to beat them another way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: olaftab on March 02, 2022, 07:48:48 PM
9 changes to the cup side tonight. Shame.
This s mental. Southampton are in no danger of relegation so why not play your strongest team?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 02, 2022, 08:51:30 PM
9 changes to the cup side tonight. Shame.
This s mental. Southampton are in no danger of relegation so why not play your strongest team?
There 14 points away above 18th, they really have no chance of going down. I do hate it when teams don’t  play a strong team in the cup, especially teams in mid table who have nothing else to play for.

As for Saturday, feels like it’ll be tough, bit Southampton do throw in some poor results now and again.

We owe them one at villa Park and the bad run at home against them can’t go on forever. A good old fashioned
 2-1 Villa (Watkins, Ings) with both forwards scoring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 02, 2022, 08:52:00 PM
9 changes to the cup side tonight. Shame.
This s mental. Southampton are in no danger of relegation so why not play your strongest team?
There 14 points above 18th, they really have no chance of going down. I do hate it when teams don’t  play a strong team in the cup, especially teams in mid table who have nothing else to play for.

As for Saturday, feels like it’ll be tough, bit Southampton do throw in some poor results now and again.

We owe them one at villa Park and the bad run at home against them can’t go on forever. A good old fashioned
 2-1 Villa (Watkins, Ings) with both forwards scoring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Beard82 on March 02, 2022, 08:54:24 PM
9 changes to the cup side tonight. Shame.
This s mental. Southampton are in no danger of relegation so why not play your strongest team?
It drives me insane, but I guess we're baised as we havent won an FA cup since the 90s (or someother crazy stat).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 02, 2022, 08:55:28 PM
Inexplicable putting out a weak team when no chance of relegation or Europe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 02, 2022, 11:44:36 PM
Didn't seem to cause them any problems tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 03, 2022, 12:26:56 AM
Indeed, they put out a half and half team and comfortably beat West Ham who were mostly at full strength.

Make no mistake they're bang in form and this is usually a very difficult match up for us.

That said got the feeling we'll come out firing and they won't be able to handle Coutinho and we'll run out 3-1 winners.

Our main problem v these is we always concede an early goal and have to start chasing the game which plays into their style so need to avoid that. Think this would be really good game for Sanson to start aswell.

Really like the look of Borja who they have upfront. If they haven't agreed a fixed fee with Chelsea, I'd be straight in with a bid end of season as fits the profile of what we need upfront. They can have Ings back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: sid1964 on March 03, 2022, 06:23:13 AM
Are there any plans by the club to show support for Ukraine prior to the game on Saturday?

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Nev on March 03, 2022, 08:32:57 AM
I think there is a PL lead initiative, including something on the Captains armband. Apologies is this sounds vague, it was on SSP in the pub yesterday and I wasn't quite paying attention.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Axl Rose on March 03, 2022, 08:40:20 AM
We haven't beaten them at home since Carlton Cole's debut?

About time that changed.

1-0 Villa. Ramsey
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on March 03, 2022, 08:44:56 AM
We're due a game against these where every shot we take, regardless of where it was taken, flies into the top corner.

0-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: LukeJames on March 03, 2022, 10:40:35 AM
We haven't beaten them at home since Carlton Cole's debut?

He was unplayable that day. I thought we had gotten ourselves a bit of a beast. Dont think he then scored again until the return game against Southampton, which was pretty much the last few weeks of the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Dave P on March 03, 2022, 11:15:31 AM
We haven't beaten them at home since Carlton Cole's debut?

He was unplayable that day. I thought we had gotten ourselves a bit of a beast. Dont think he then scored again until the return game against Southampton, which was pretty much the last few weeks of the season.

Pedant alert.  He scored in the next home game v Newcastle and then not again until Southampton away in April.  In fact, the next person to score in their first two home games for the club was Coutinho.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Axl Rose on March 03, 2022, 11:33:40 AM
He chested it in if I remember correctly. That season I think I managed to go to every home game, and that Newcastle match was my favourite of the lot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 03, 2022, 01:26:53 PM
Surely Sanson for Luis,
Ings on the bench
Bailey wide left


Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 03, 2022, 04:20:44 PM
At least Shane Long scored his first goal in a decade last week so he can leave his bogey team alone for once.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Border villan on March 03, 2022, 04:22:27 PM
Surely Sanson for Luis,
Ings on the bench
Bailey wide left

By wide left I hope you mean somewhere on Spaghetti Junction.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Pete3206 on March 03, 2022, 07:52:44 PM
Bailey is way off it at the moment, so no thanks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on March 03, 2022, 08:33:32 PM
I reckon it will be the same team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 03, 2022, 08:58:54 PM
Yeah, he's a dour non-rotater is Gerrard.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: brontebilly on March 03, 2022, 10:48:36 PM
My first game at Villa Park in a few years, defeat at home to Stoke in the last days of Sherwood's reign being the last one. Really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 03, 2022, 11:21:13 PM
Was that 0-1 in October '15? Was one of my last VP games for a couple of years too (til the 4-1 win over Wolves).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: brontebilly on March 04, 2022, 12:01:13 AM
Was that 0-1 in October '15? Was one of my last VP games for a couple of years too (til the 4-1 win over Wolves).

Yes, think so. It was horrific. Micah Richards was playing at CB next to some fairly random Spanish dude that I'm not sure played for us again. Richards defensive positioning was laughable all game, he nearly scored at the end after it all.

It's not even the worst game I've seen at Villa Park, I was there for an utter snooze fest 0-0 in the last days of DOL's reign v Fulham. Notable only for the bedsheet protest from the Holte End.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: nick harper on March 04, 2022, 12:05:55 PM
Watch out for a saints player going down half way through the second half so the manager can get his team to get a drink and instructions. Apparently a regular occurrence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: olaftab on March 04, 2022, 12:29:49 PM
Keep Le Tissier quiet and we have a chance.
What about Mick Channon, he could do lot of damage?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on March 04, 2022, 12:36:07 PM
Keep Le Tissier quiet and we have a chance.
What about Mick Channon, he could do lot of damage?
Yes. Believe it or not, goals can change a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 04, 2022, 12:53:28 PM
Didn't Shane Long score in the last league game for them?

Feels like he's scored 50% of his career goals v us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 04, 2022, 01:40:38 PM
It was his first home goal of the decade. First away one any day now...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on March 04, 2022, 02:10:52 PM
He's scored 6 goals against us, tied with Norwich for the most goals scored against a particular club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 04, 2022, 03:02:26 PM
He's scored 6 goals against us, tied with Norwich for the most goals scored against a particular club.
Can we bring the Scottish Cafu on for 5 minutes to see him off?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: mrfuse on March 04, 2022, 03:18:27 PM
Quite happily see another Matt Cash show of support for fellow Polish team-mate Tomasz Kedziora.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on March 04, 2022, 03:57:14 PM
Not losing possession in midfield is key tomorrow. They have a good turnover rate and do a lot with it. McGinn et al need to keep it simple.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: steamer on March 04, 2022, 05:23:19 PM
Not a game for Luiz
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on March 04, 2022, 06:02:07 PM
Dear Visitors ,
We decided to stop putting any link of the English Premier League matches on the site "www.hes
Message on popular website!!
Anyone got an alternative?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on March 04, 2022, 06:13:42 PM
This morning, the fishmonger at our local market* asked me who we were playing tomoz, and when I said Southampton he said 'Oh no, they are awkward bastards to play against!' :-D

*Facebook groupies will have seen the fish I bought. Looking forward to my baked sargo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on March 04, 2022, 06:18:27 PM
Dear Visitors ,
We decided to stop putting any link of the English Premier League matches on the site "www.hes
Message on popular website!!
Anyone got an alternative?
I have pm'ed you regarding the price of fish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on March 04, 2022, 06:22:24 PM
Dear Visitors ,
We decided to stop putting any link of the English Premier League matches on the site "www.hes
Message on popular website!!
Anyone got an alternative?
I have pm'ed you regarding the price of fish.
Cheers BE, I'll have a look tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on March 04, 2022, 07:23:15 PM
 Could you also please feed me with poisson, monsieur?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: OCD on March 04, 2022, 07:30:57 PM
Not sure how easy it will be to find a stream of the game with the Chinese threatening to pull their coverage of the weekend's games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Scott Nielsen on March 05, 2022, 08:32:22 AM
Could you also please feed me with poisson, monsieur?

And me, please. Much obliged.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: DeeBoy1 on March 05, 2022, 10:31:39 AM
…and me please. Fishy fishy fish 😋
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: amfy on March 05, 2022, 10:49:20 AM
Both of my parents love fish and I would love to get some for them if that’s OK BE?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 05, 2022, 11:12:27 AM
Just win at home for the first time in exactly 3 months, Villa!

Pretty please? X
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Villa Lew on March 05, 2022, 11:44:01 AM
Think he'll go with the same starting line up as last week, he said in his post match interviews, he believes the Watkins/Ings will work. Feel more optimistic about the match after last week, going 2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: dicedlam on March 05, 2022, 12:13:01 PM
I wouldn’t mind a stickleback or two please BE.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: devilla on March 05, 2022, 01:01:54 PM
Dear Visitors ,
We decided to stop putting any link of the English Premier League matches on the site "www.hes
Message on popular website!!
Anyone got an alternative?
I have pm'ed you regarding the price of fish.

I'd also be very interested in the price of fish please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton Pre-Match
Post by: Joshua Fineman on March 05, 2022, 02:52:07 PM
…and me please. Fishy fishy fish 😋

And me please!  Another fish
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