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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Tuscans on November 20, 2021, 02:02:39 PM
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4-5-1? Ollie out wide maybe?
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Sanson on bench which is interesting. Good to see ings back. Im guessing ollie on left and buendia on right.
Bailey dropped. Dont look that 3 in the middle ill be honest. But not many options
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Sansons alive then.
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Trying to work out what Brighton have done, looks like 3 at the back for them with Trossard as a false 9. Maupay on the bench.
More confident now than I was 10 minutes ago, think we can win this 2-1.
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Sansons alive then.
I read that in a Brian Blessed voice
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Sansons alive then.
Apparently rumours he died on Space Mountain were an over-exaggeration
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4-5-1? Ollie out wide maybe?
As most of our attacking play comes down the right there's no reason why Ollie can't get himself into the box to feed off the service. Buendia and Cash need to make sure they deliver.
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Plus ça change...
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Sansons alive then.
I read that in a Brian Blessed voice
Completely normal
(Me too)
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4-3-3… or a diamond with Buendia in 10? Interesting…
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4-5-1? Ollie out wide maybe?
I would say 4-3-3.
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It looks like a 4-3-3 initially. Will be interesting to see how this plays out!
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Looks defensive to me.
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Apart from leaving Bailey out, not sure there were many decisions to make here. Has to go with that midfield, despite it looking a bit weak. Wonder when Sanson reported that he’d hurt himself on holiday, if he was told to get his arse over here.
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When is Bert back?
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Davis over Archer on the bench?
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When is Bert back?
He needs to get his curtains sorted first.
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Apart from leaving Bailey out, not sure there were many decisions to make here. Has to go with that midfield, despite it looking a bit weak. Wonder when Sanson reported that he’d hurt himself on holiday, if he was told to get his arse over here.
I suppose you are right. Not much choice and it does look weak.
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When is Bert back?
He needs to get his curtains sorted first.
heh
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Bert?? Does he still play for us? It’s been that long, doubt I’d recognise him!!
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Davis over Archer on the bench?
Yes. Archer is with the U23s on Monday. No comment.
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When is Bert back?
He needs to get his curtains sorted first.
heh
Yep out with chronic curtains.
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Come on Villa! Don’t let me down! Excited about this…
Reckon it’ll last 10 mins. It normally does!
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Watch their RB, Lampety going forward. Really good player
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4-4-2 with a diamond, or 4-3-3 with Buendia and Watkins wide?
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Looks like 4-3-3 👍
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Poor Dean, Norwich already losing.
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Looks like Ollie is playing wide left.
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Dreadful referring there
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Norwich have equalised.
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Completely forgotten where I normally go to for links. Could some kind soul drop me a PM of where they're watching the game?
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We’re moving the ball well. So far
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What an odd refereeing decision: Brighton has a man down, they have the ball and he lets them play on but then Villa breaks and he blows the whistle.
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Actual energy and pressure.
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Im fucking loving the quick one touch passing!!
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McGinn has started very well.
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It’s already way, way better than we saw the last 4 or 5 games.
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From the first 10 minutes, we’re looking sharp, fast and moving ball really well.
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What an odd refereeing decision: Brighton has a man down, they have the ball and he lets them play on but then Villa breaks and he blows the whistle.
Anthony Taylor, the absolute epitome of 'look at me' refereeing.
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Im loving the intensity so far
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Newcastle winning.
We really can't be losing this today.
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Newcastle winning.
Now 1-1.
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Newcastle winning.
We really can't be losing this today.
No they’re not
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Come on you Villa boys!
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So close!! Unlucky matty
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Great move, Cash kept out by a good save
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Predictably Nakamba is coming off second best in the duels v Bissouma.
Shows the massive void we have in that midfield area, have to sort it out sooner or later.
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Good start but Brighton coming back into it, finding little pockets of space all over.
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Buendia still looking really disappointing
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Good start but Brighton coming back into it, finding little pockets of space all over.
Hopefully we now have a manager that can fix it quickly
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Buendia still looking really disappointing
Ollie too.
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Brighton doing the possession thing. We need to push through this bit of play
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Ollie out of sorts on the left. Needs to be front and centre.
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Corners rubbish again.
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They are better than us at the moment
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This feels like a friendly at the moment... Anyway, throw in, come on...
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Brighton the better team now, I don't know what shape they're playing but it's working. If we're trying to get the front 3 to press, they're getting through it quite easily.
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Burnley winning......above us on GD if it stays like that.
Watford 1-0 aswell.
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Nice to see Stevie g and Beale coaching in the stoppage.
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They are better than us at the moment
We've had the better chances at least.
Keeper who's playing his first ever prem game doing well so far.
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New manager bounce lasted about 20 minutes.
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Nice to see Steven g and Beale coaching in the stoppage.
Yep he needed that break
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Ings slightly heavy touch there. Still making dangerous chances.
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New manager bounce lasted about 20 minutes.
That’s the spirit.......
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some lovely play from Brighton there.
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Martinez with a good stop in the middle of all that.
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Nakamba is just not good enough. Second best to bissouma in every way.
Great save emi.
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We need half time so SG cam sort this out
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Brighton pressing really well and Lamptey is a real pest. Not convinced that Targett is up to it.
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Watkins isn't helping Targett though.
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Table does not make good reading at the moment.
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Steven g
Stop it!
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Watkins so frustrating, always takes that half a second too long. Having said that, pretty sure it was a foul.
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I've had a couple of cans and I think we're never going to score today.
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Steven g
Stop it!
Sorry !!
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Pathetic there from the ref.
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Brighton are obviously better coached than us. That's where we're lacking. We have better players than them.
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Really poor so far. Buendia has been dreadful.
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Really poor so far. Buendia has been dreadful.
Really? I don't think we've been poor at all. It's a pretty finely balanced match and we're putting in a decent shift thus far.
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McGinn having a good game. Unlike Buendina.it will be interesting how long he gets second half.
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That’s the first bit of possession we’ve had for at least 20 mins. SG has a long way to go before he gets his possession football!
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A queue for chips is clearly forming.
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Not scoring while bissouma is on the pitch
What a unbelievably good player he is
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Brighton are obviously better coached than us. That's where we're lacking. We have better players than them.
Not in all positions though. Stick a Bissouma type infront of back 4 and that would massively help us.
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Really poor so far. Buendia has been dreadful.
Really? I don't think we've been poor at all. It's a pretty finely balanced match and we're putting in a decent shift thus far.
I agree. However, we don't seem to have any guile up front.
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New manager bounce lasted about 20 minutes.
Premier League isn't like bullying teams in Scotland
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McGinn having a good game. Unlike Buendina.it will be interesting how long he gets second half.
I think it will be Sanson for Nakamba or Ramsey, and Bailey for Buendia.
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Should've been behind there.
Got to make some changes I think. Expecting Bailey and Sanson early second half, perhaps El Ghazi aswell.
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Watford 2-0 Man Utd. Ole must be headed down the job centre tonight you'd have thought.
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Thank you, Emi.
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Interesting to see how Steven changes things at halftime.
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Emi saved us there. Great save.
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McGinn having a good game. Unlike Buendina.it will be interesting how long he gets second half.
I think it will be Sanson for Nakamba or Ramsey, and Bailey for Buendia.
Hope so.
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Table does not make good reading at the moment.
Looks a bit better now. For a bit we were one above the relegation zone on goal difference.
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Not been at all impressed with Watkins this season. Ings' arrival seems to have broken him.
And Ings hasn't been any better either.
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Emi entering beast mode there. Brilliant save.
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Get the fecking chequebook out Purslow.
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Not great.
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Buendia not in the game, tempo too high for him.
scrappy, even and hectic.
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Well that was a bit poo.
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It needs El Ghazi on I think over Bailey
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Not been at all impressed with Watkins this season. Ings' arrival seems to have broken him.
And Ings hasn't been any better either.
I share your view on Watkins but I think Ings has been OK. Watkins one-second delay to everything I just cannot explain.
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Week I suppose that was expected and probably what Dean would have served up. Now it gets interesting, what is Steven going to do?!?
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Not been at all impressed with Watkins this season. Ings' arrival seems to have broken him.
And Ings hasn't been any better either.
I share your view on Watkins but I think Ings has been OK. Watkins one-second delay to everything I just cannot explain.
Because he isn’t as good as we all think imho.
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Not been at all impressed with Watkins this season. Ings' arrival seems to have broken him.
And Ings hasn't been any better either.
He was great last season. There cannot be any revisionism about that.
I share your view on Watkins but I think Ings has been OK. Watkins one-second delay to everything I just cannot explain.
Because he isn’t as good as we all think imho.
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Not been at all impressed with Watkins this season. Ings' arrival seems to have broken him.
And Ings hasn't been any better either.
I share your view on Watkins but I think Ings has been OK. Watkins one-second delay to everything I just cannot explain.
He hasn’t used his pace to his advantage once today, and his ability/decision making on the ball has been poor.. can’t have that when he’s expected to be on the wing. Ramsey has been adopting the responsibility as a result.
The energy from the outset was good but we need more in the final third. Buendia just can’t seem to get it in gear, no idea what’s going on there.
Still a winnable game. The introduction of Bailey could see a big shift in attacking intent.
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Really poor so far. Buendia has been dreadful.
As has Ollie and Ings. We're useless down the left, poor down the right and with one or two exceptions, not doing much through the middle. That said, the defence looks better, Targett is having to earn his corn but he's a better defender than wing back, Tyrone and Konsa look pretty comfortable and Cash is Cash. Midfield three led by SJM are doing okay. If Ramsey can get more involved and SJM has a second half like the first we may get something from this.
Bailey needs to come on, replacing Emi B or Watkins who should only be played central. Overall, there's a hell of a lot of coaching that needs doing.
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Buendia not in the game, tempo too high for him.
scrappy, even and hectic.
Keeps drifting into central areas when we have got the ball, leaving us with no advanced wide option on the right.
Thought we started brightly, but regressed as the half went on.
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Intrigued to find out everyone thinks we're doing terribly. Brighton can keep the ball against anyone, and they've mostly done that in unthreatening areas. McGinn's been awesome, Ramsey and Buendia up and down but better than recently, and overall we look like we're passing it around with more zip, there aren't any long throws or rubbish punts into the channels, and we're pressing with more cohesion and energy. No it's not perfect, but Gerrard's had a couple of days with them and they look better already.
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Buendia had moments of looking ok. Ings just looks slow, lumbering and not very useful to me. I know he's a finisher, but he's fucked with the balance of everything, and buggered up Watkins, who was our shining light so often last season.
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It's very much a Dean Smith villa performance. We'll be better with some different coaching.
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I would think Bailey will be on soon and hopefully Sanson.
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I think McGinn will be where Buendia is once a Jan window is closed.
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Started well first ten then went back to dean smith style football again.
Slow with the ball and not aggressive enough
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Hopefully that 45 is enough to convince Gerrard that it's not worth persevering with Watkins/Ings. We all came to that conclusion weeks back under Smith. Gerrard seemed to be having a long chat with Bailey just before half time so will be on shortly surely.
We need a change anyway, Brighton totally on top last 20 mins.
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The panic buy of Ings has really fucked our pattern up. Get Ollie up front, Bailey out wide. You can't push your top scorer and arguably 3rd best player last season out of position to accommodate a poor transfer. Ings should be on the bench, deputising for Ollie as and when needed or coming on to impact games if were behind. Thanks Smith for your disjointed transfers in the Summer.
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Come on Villa, lets get these 3 points sorted, give Stevie a good start, lets do it.
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Moder has had 4 fouls that could all have been booked.
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Looking sharp again at the start of this half.
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The panic buy of Ings has really fucked our pattern up. Get Ollie up front, Bailey out wide. You can't push your top scorer and arguably 3rd best player last season out of position to accommodate a poor transfer. Ings should be on the bench, deputising for Ollie as and when needed or coming on to impact games if were behind. Thanks Smith for your disjointed transfers in the Summer.
Not a poor transfer but true we should not be playing both of them.
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What’s going on, SHM is on the right?!?
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Young on for Targett.
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Moder has had 4 fouls that could all have been booked.
Yet Cucurella is the one to get booked.
Some referees can be really dumb.
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Young on for Targett.
Targett looks to be coming back on.
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Targett has done his groin, looks like Young to replace him. Young v Lamptey? Only one outcome there.
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I suspect SG is already aware Targett is not good enough
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Targett is playing on.
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Target is playing on.
Didn’t realise he was playing at all to be honest
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Nakamba just not good enough for this level. We need to upgrade 100%
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The long punt from Emi to Emi 😂
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We need a Bissouma
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Been really poor second half. Not sure where the subs are.....
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This watkins is so bloody lame.
Can we get the one from last season back please? And people said he tammy would never get in the side...
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It is alarming how easy it is for Brighton to get out. Our front three are trying to press bur there’s nothing behind.
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This watkins is so bloody lame.
Can we get the one from last season back please? And people said he tammy would never get in the side...
This.
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That really looked like a penalty to us
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Sort it out Steven!
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Brighton immediately work hard to get the ball back whenever they lose it. They're like flies round shit. I think that's how Gerrard will want us to play.
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Is Ings still on?
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What's happened to Watkins is incomprehensible.
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Bailey coming on.
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All the money we’ve spent and they have had 75% possession last year p mins!
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Ings off, Bailey on.
(Thumbs up).
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That really looked like a penalty to us
was
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Ings off.
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Bailey!!
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Is Ings still on?
Not anymore.
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You've had four or five days to put this right Gerrard and you've done fuck all.
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Is Ings still on?
No
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You've had four or five days to put this right Gerrard and you've done fuck all.
Ha brilliant. Funny in so many ways.
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Come on Villa
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I don't think Gerrard has slipped up so far.
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Our high press is so slow happening.
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Incredible Brighton are on 18 points, they haven't won since middle of September (a week before we last did).
Must've had some start in August.
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Its going to take Gerrard a couple of games and good performances to snap Villa out of this doldrum, they're sleep walking, still think we can win this.
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Our high press is so slow happening.
So far we are keeping our shape far better than lately though.
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Buendia is poor. Get him off
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Buendia off, Young on.
Bit of a strange one unless plan is just to get endless crosses in and hope something drops.
Buendia just has air of Barkley from last season currently.
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Buendina is poor. I’m not seeing a quality player there at all.
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Imagine if Young scores the winner here…
Wonder what the odds are?
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Young on in advanced role - oh well another person who doesn’t realise it isn’t 2012
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Serious questions have to be asked on lange for wasting 40m on buendia. He is nowhere near worth that value.
Piss poor
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Buendina is poor. I’m not seeing a quality player there at all.
Massively overpaid for him.
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Buendia not happy…either with being taken off or his own performance?
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Brighton fans just did "You're shit, haaaa!" during an Emi goal kick. WTF?
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Imagine if Young scores the winner here…
Wonder what the odds are?
22/1.
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Norwich getting some new manager bounce....
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Aaagh Sjm !!!
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Fucking mcginn what the hell you waiting for 2050 hit the bloody ball
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McGinn should have just had a power shot then. If it had hit the Brighton player square in the bollocks then so be it. But he should have shot
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If a player challenges with his foot, gets there late and makes contact it's often a yellow card but it never gets given when they do it with their head, don't really know why it's different.
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The standard of the forward play is dreadful.
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Imagine if Young scores the winner here…
Wonder what the odds are?
22/1.
We are not going to score in a million years today.
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We're just not clicking are we.
Going to have to play miles better than this to have any chance of winning some of next 4 games.
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Mings got out of jail
There.
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Norwich have a better goal difference than us and have already played City and Liverpool - Wow! Those shit cheap defeats are going to hurt us
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Imagine if Young scores the winner here…
Wonder what the odds are?
22/1.
We are not going to score in a million years today.
No, but blind optimism seems to suggest a 90th minute winner to us. Not sure why.
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Ramsey off, El Ghazi on.
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Ollie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Yeaahhhhhhh
My stream is delayed. so I’m just posting this on the off chance we score.
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That little gobshite Maupay is nailed on to score here.
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Watkins!
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Yes!
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Yessssss ollie !!!!!
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Brilliant by Watkins
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Get the fuck in!
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What a fucking goal! Ollie!!!
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The standard of the forward play is dreadful.
Agreed, Paul. No shape at all.
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It's a painful watch.
Our forward play is so poor and some of our players look like they've never played football in their lives.
Apart from Ollie of course. Ha!
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YEEESSSSSSSSSS. KNEW IT
Now ffs Villa take care of that lead and the 3 points, protect it with your life, this is the start
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Now that's the Ollie from last season - YESSSSS!!!!
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Just what we needed.
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeasas
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🙂👍
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Yeaahhhhhhh
My stream is delayed. so I’m just posting this on the off chance we score.
Can you do that again a couple of times??
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What a fucking goal and well done Ash too.
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Yessssssss!
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Ashley youngs been brilliant since he came on
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Fucking beautiful!
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Shame we've used all our subs, would be good to throw on another defender to see things out as injury time will be pretty nervy after what happened v Wolves.
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Ashley youngs been brilliant since he came on
Ha ha game changer!
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Better with a single striker
Woohoo 😃
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Mings!
Done and dusted.
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Mings!
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2-0!
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Mings!!!!!!
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Yessss!!!!
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Yeee3s!
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MIIINGS YOU BEAUTY
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Huzzah!
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Get in Tyrone!
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You beauty Mings!
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That is fantastic!!
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Brighton who!!!!!!
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Thank Christ for that
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Brilliant mings!!!
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Yesssss
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Relief all round.
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Great from McGinn in the build up. Smashing finish too.
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Fuck me what finish that is !!!
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Brilliant passikn from stevie g!!
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Argh my stream is miles behind!
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Yesssss!
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Great defending from Young
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See what the difference subs can make?
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That should have been in
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Not much 'beating the traffic' going on.
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Fuck me but what a wonderful, wonderful win. So happy.
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Well done Villa, put that one to bed
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Brilliant!
That will do.
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I've still got 3 minutes of stoppage time to go!
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Well there you go, bringing young Ashley on was a master stroke!
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I've still got 3 minutes of stoppage time to go!
Savor it!
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Gerrard straight onto the pitch telling the players to go and acknowledge the fans (I think).
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At last! :D :D :D
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Didn't see that coming as we weren't great at all in second half.
Huge 3 points though. Suddenly top half dosen't look too far away but small steps as next 4 are very tough indeed.
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Brilliant! Much more assured all over the pitch. Mings and Konsa looks so much better in this system.
Well done Ollie and Mings, fantastic finishing.