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Title: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 08, 2021, 11:05:05 AM
Which manager(s) do you really NOT want? I have allowed up to three choices per poster.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 11:06:25 AM
I can't pick Gerrard three times? Booo!
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Risso on November 08, 2021, 11:07:53 AM
Poor Hjulmand. Nobody wants him, and nobody doesn't want him. Perhaps we could have a third poll "who have you never heard of?" Reckon he'd top that!
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: LeeB on November 08, 2021, 11:09:12 AM
I can't pick Gerrard three times? Booo!

There needs to be a short term amnesty on site rules allowing users to login via multiple aliases specifically for this purpose.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2021, 11:09:41 AM
Neil Lennon.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 08, 2021, 11:10:16 AM
Poor Hjulmand. Nobody wants him, and nobody doesn't want him. Perhaps we could have a third poll "who have you never heard of?" Reckon he'd top that!

Would be below Sunday Tesco for me, from the above list.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: KRS on November 08, 2021, 11:10:43 AM
It was actually quite hard reducing my definitely don’t want list from 8 down to 3.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 08, 2021, 11:10:55 AM
Gerrard for me, watching Scotland's premier league doesn't convince me, wouldn't even compare it to the championship, it's so poor
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 11:11:05 AM
Neil Lennon.

He'd be worth it just for the marketing opportunities of having the hottest, most handsome manager in football.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: sickbeggar on November 08, 2021, 11:12:51 AM
Domenico Tedesco? Thought that was one of them cook-in sauces.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: LeeB on November 08, 2021, 11:13:50 AM
Neil Lennon.

He'd be worth it just for the marketing opportunities of having the hottest, most handsome manager in football.

His warm, open, everyman style of management would have everyone gushing, a Celtic Claudio Ranieri.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 11:16:42 AM
Neil Lennon.

He'd be worth it just for the marketing opportunities of having the hottest, most handsome manager in football.

His warm, open, everyman style of management would have everyone gushing, a Celtic Claudio Ranieri.

And his English is improving all the time.

Fuck it, let's get him in. With MON as Director of Football to handle signings and wages.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Drummond on November 08, 2021, 11:18:55 AM
Neil Lennon.

He'd be worth it just for the marketing opportunities of having the hottest, most handsome manager in football.

His warm, open, everyman style of management would have everyone gushing, a Celtic Claudio Ranieri.

And his English is improving all the time.

Fuck it, let's get him in. With MON as Director of Football to handle signings and wages.

And just think of the welcome he'd give Sralex too.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Demitri_C on November 08, 2021, 11:20:24 AM
Hell no to Lampard.  That would be a utter disaster
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Mister E on November 08, 2021, 11:42:35 AM
Nuno - boredom / death by a 1000 cuts.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Richard on November 08, 2021, 11:56:44 AM
Lampard Nuno and Parker
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: ozzjim on November 08, 2021, 12:00:42 PM
Martinez. Failed at Everton. Failed with Belgium.

Lampard, not a good manager and the players were happy to see him go as he had zero tactical input.

Nuno, just think it's too soon, although he's a good manager.

Gerard... Just the voice.

Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: danno on November 08, 2021, 12:06:23 PM
Can I vote three times for Gerrard?
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 08, 2021, 12:07:16 PM
Which manager(s) do you really NOT want? I have allowed up to three choices per poster.

You left Martinez, Thierry Henry and Howe off the list to boost the number of votes for Stevie G. A shameless undermining of the democratic process. >:(
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 12:07:41 PM
Can I vote three times for Gerrard?

In spirit, yes mate.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 08, 2021, 12:08:49 PM
Edited.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 12:12:49 PM
Edited.

How do I change my vote? I only voted for the first Gerrard, I don't want that to be taken as tacit endorsement of the second or third...
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: cdward on November 08, 2021, 12:13:20 PM
Terry
Lampard
Gerrard
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 08, 2021, 12:15:56 PM
Gerard... Just the voice.

Not an easy listen tbf which also rules out Emma Hayes.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 12:21:13 PM
I don't mind the voice, I just think he's a wanker.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Des Little on November 08, 2021, 12:30:34 PM
Please change this to offer a 'select all' box.  Cheers
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 08, 2021, 12:31:00 PM
I don't mind the voice, I just think he's a wanker.

I do mind the voice and think he's a wanker.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 12:32:15 PM
I don't mind the voice, I just think he's a wanker.

I do mind the voice and think he's a wanker.

Haha I can't take issue with that!
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Charlie8182 on November 08, 2021, 12:34:10 PM
Hasenhutti, two 9-0 defeats in consecutive seasons? No thanks
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Demitri_C on November 08, 2021, 12:35:07 PM
There is no chance Terry isnt getting it

But i could see us going for him of he is successful in his 1st job as manager elsewhere
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 08, 2021, 12:38:06 PM
There is no chance Terry isnt getting it

What does this even mean?
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: KevinGage on November 08, 2021, 12:41:44 PM
It's code, I think.

The fat is in the fryer - Louis Van Gaal

One hand washes the other - Bid for Terry Venables
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: KevinGage on November 08, 2021, 12:42:09 PM
Edit
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Demitri_C on November 08, 2021, 12:51:35 PM
There is no chance Terry isnt getting it

What does this even mean?

Is* i meant
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Drummond on November 08, 2021, 12:53:32 PM
There is no chance Terry isnt getting it

What does this even mean?

Is* i meant

There is no chance Terry isn't getting is what?
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 08, 2021, 12:59:34 PM
Lee Johnson
Paul Lambert
Ian Holloway
Sam Allardyce
Gareth Mouthgate
Danny Murphy
Paul Lambert
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on November 08, 2021, 01:29:13 PM
Martinez
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: TonyD on November 08, 2021, 01:32:28 PM
Martinez. Failed at Everton. Failed with Belgium.

Lampard, not a good manager and the players were happy to see him go as he had zero tactical input.

Nuno, just think it's too soon, although he's a good manager.

Gerard... Just the voice.


You think our FA is shit with Southgate but the Belgium FA take the piss with Martinez. 
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Des Little on November 08, 2021, 01:34:11 PM
It's code, I think.

The fat is in the fryer - Louis Van Gaal

One hand washes the other - Bid for Terry Venables

You've won Dusty Bin
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 08, 2021, 01:44:12 PM
Lee Johnson
Paul Lambert
Ian Holloway
Sam Allardyce
Gareth Mouthgate
Danny Murphy
Paul Lambert
Wow! What a backroom team!
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: brian green on November 08, 2021, 02:09:29 PM
How can you not have Joey Barton in that backroom team?
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 08, 2021, 02:10:28 PM
Paul Jewell, Neil Warnock or Phil Brown. Oh and no to Barry Fry and Zola too.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Rory on November 08, 2021, 02:10:41 PM
Who's Lee Johnson?
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: LeeB on November 08, 2021, 02:12:30 PM
Who's Lee Johnson?

*wipes milk from mouth*

Exactly.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: brian green on November 08, 2021, 02:13:48 PM
Boris Johnson's illegitimate son (one of many) by Gypsy Rose Lee.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: rob_bridge on November 08, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
On the 2nd day of Christmas my Villa didn't give to me
2 Steven Gerrards.
2 Steven Gerrards
and Lampard in the Dugout
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Clampy on November 08, 2021, 02:40:44 PM
On the 2nd day of Christmas my Villa didn't give to me
2 Steven Gerrards.
2 Steven Gerrards
and Lampard in the Dugout

5 Tyrone Mings!!!!!!
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 08, 2021, 02:45:10 PM
On the 2nd day of Christmas my Villa didn't give to me
2 Steven Gerrards.
2 Steven Gerrards
and Lampard in the Dugout

5 Tyrone Mings!!!!!!

4 Collymore's
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Legion on November 08, 2021, 02:49:26 PM
Terry
Lampard
Gerrard


Correct answer.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Nelly on November 08, 2021, 02:49:31 PM
Any chance I could be allowed 6 votes please?
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Flin5tone on November 08, 2021, 06:02:17 PM
Potter

28% win ratio at Brighton yet made out to be some sort of football God.




Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Ian. on November 08, 2021, 06:07:13 PM
Nuno because he’s a firm favourite of 352 and pretty boring.

Gerrard for no other reason than the Liverpool connection in every single  thing we will do for the rest of his time here.

Terry because he divides too much opinion amongst us fans and will create bigger divide than Brexit.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: The_ads on November 08, 2021, 06:18:28 PM
Potter

28% win ratio at Brighton yet made out to be some sort of football God.


….and did really well in a pub league. Like Gerrard. Yet some don’t like Gerrard because of his Liverpool connection, and didn’t like Terry because of Chelsea. At some point we need to remove the inferiority complex. I imagine Guardiola is a Barcelona fanatic and I imagine Klopp would get an enormous reception from the  Dortmund yellow wall….doesn’t necessarily mean they spend their careers fawning about it.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Dave P on November 08, 2021, 06:24:34 PM
Like many on here, Frank Terrard
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on November 08, 2021, 06:27:49 PM
Potter is rated because last season you could see how well they played. It was a running joke just how many chances they created without scoring. It therefore doesn't take much to then start gaining more points when you start putting them away. I can see why he's rated but it's still a relatively small sample size. Would I prefer him over Gerrard though? Yes. Is there better? Yes. Gerrard really hasn't done that much in a two team league. Could he still be decent? Yes. Do I want to risk it? No.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: not3bad on November 08, 2021, 06:33:55 PM
Martinez. Failed at Everton. Failed with Belgium.

Lampard, not a good manager and the players were happy to see him go as he had zero tactical input.

Nuno, just think it's too soon, although he's a good manager.

Gerard... Just the voice.



This
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Demitri_C on November 08, 2021, 06:34:18 PM
There is no chance Terry isnt getting it

What does this even mean?

Is* i meant

There is no chance Terry isn't getting is what?

The vacancy??
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: wince on November 08, 2021, 06:36:02 PM
Gerard, Potter, dyche.

Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: mrfuse on November 08, 2021, 06:37:26 PM
Potter

28% win ratio at Brighton yet made out to be some sort of football God.


….and did really well in a pub league. Like Gerrard. Yet some don’t like Gerrard because of his Liverpool connection, and didn’t like Terry because of Chelsea. At some point we need to remove the inferiority complex. I imagine Guardiola is a Barcelona fanatic and I imagine Klopp would get an enormous reception from the  Dortmund yellow wall….doesn’t necessarily mean they spend their careers fawning about it.

Its not particularly the inferiority complex its more the fawning over Anfield when visiting and its a steppingstone to the Liverpool Job.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Damo70 on November 08, 2021, 06:39:34 PM
Martinez. Failed at Everton. Failed with Belgium.

Lampard, not a good manager and the players were happy to see him go as he had zero tactical input.

Nuno, just think it's too soon, although he's a good manager.

Gerard... Just the voice.



This


Martinez also went down with Wigan.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Richard E on November 08, 2021, 06:41:23 PM
He did win the FA Cup though.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: The_ads on November 08, 2021, 06:49:09 PM
Potter

28% win ratio at Brighton yet made out to be some sort of football God.


….and did really well in a pub league. Like Gerrard. Yet some don’t like Gerrard because of his Liverpool connection, and didn’t like Terry because of Chelsea. At some point we need to remove the inferiority complex. I imagine Guardiola is a Barcelona fanatic and I imagine Klopp would get an enormous reception from the  Dortmund yellow wall….doesn’t necessarily mean they spend their careers fawning about it.

Its not particularly the inferiority complex its more the fawning over Anfield when visiting and its a steppingstone to the Liverpool Job.


If Gerrard got the Liverpool job after Klopp then it would almost certainly mean he’d done a brilliant job at AVFC. I’ll take that, especially as Klopp going anywhere is years away
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: danno on November 08, 2021, 06:52:43 PM
It isn't that Gerrard is an ex Liverpool player per se,  it's that him being an ex Liverpool player who it's known Purslow admires seems to be the main reason he's being linked.

If Zombies had won the Europa league last year or gone deep into the latter stages of champions league Id be all aboard the G-train. As it stands he's done OK in Scotland just as Celtic imploded.

Further more I've been trying to think of the last time a famous English player went on to have a good managerial career.

 England internationals who went on to become good club managers.

John Barnes - nope
Bryan Robson - nope
Tony Adams - nope
Stuart Pearce - nope
Alan Shearer- nope
Paul Scholes - nope
Gary Neville - nope
Paul Ince - nope

Steven Gerrard the thinking mans after dinner speaker is going to buck that trend is he?  Is he bollocks.

Our last trophy was in 1996, Aberdeen won their first trophy since 1996 under Derek McInnes so clearly if achievements in Scotland count he should be in the frame too along with Neil Lennon and Gordon Strachan.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 08, 2021, 07:16:25 PM
Alex McLeish


Too soon?
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Skerra on November 08, 2021, 07:23:31 PM
Domenico Tedesco translates as Dominic German so maybe worth a shout!!
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Ads on November 08, 2021, 08:15:37 PM
Potter, Nuno, AVB are three nopes.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: boozey182 on November 08, 2021, 08:20:17 PM
Here's a bold prediction: Gerrard will only ever manage one Premier League club, and it will be for less than 12 months. I hope it's not us.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 08, 2021, 08:33:44 PM
I do not want Harry Redknapp, Martin O'Neill, Trevor Francis, Steve Bruce or Mick McCarthy
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Malandro on November 08, 2021, 09:00:20 PM
I do not want Harry Redknapp, Martin O'Neill, Trevor Francis, Steve Bruce or Mick McCarthy

Pearson sends you a hug.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: brian green on November 08, 2021, 09:32:59 PM
K Mac says Hi.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 08, 2021, 09:40:44 PM
Colin Wanker
Joey Barton
Barry Fry
David Brent
Robbie Savage
O'Leary
Hodge
Bono
Anybody from Yorkshire CC
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Drummond on November 08, 2021, 09:41:47 PM
Paul Scholes
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Des Little on November 08, 2021, 09:51:31 PM
Ian Culverhouse
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Legion on November 08, 2021, 09:54:06 PM
Bibs and Cones.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Malandro on November 08, 2021, 10:14:19 PM
K Mac says Hi.

What are you doing with this nonsense on your holiday!
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 08, 2021, 11:00:23 PM
Dwight Yorke
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: ROBBO on November 08, 2021, 11:04:40 PM
When the new appointment is announced we should have another poll whether we would rather re-appoint Dean Smith.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: Hillbilly on November 09, 2021, 01:57:56 AM
Just no one Scottish or managing a Scottish club. And I say that as someone with strong connections to Scotland.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: brian green on November 09, 2021, 08:08:52 AM
Ollie I am mostly offering Dogheads, Noses and Tescobags outside.
Title: Re: Which manager(s) do you really NOT want?
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 09, 2021, 09:12:50 AM
Paul Scholes

Although there would be some nail-biting games
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