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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Chris_Jephcott on October 31, 2021, 03:33:30 PM
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Not sure how to post pictures over my phone…
But 4-3-3 - Mings and Ings dropped from starting lineup. Bailey in.
Finally!
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Not sure how to post pictures over my phone…
But 4-3-3 - Mings and Ings dropped from starting lineup. Bailey in.
Finally!
Luiz and Ings not in the squad - I guess they much be injured, unless they have caught Sansons "illness"
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Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Hause, Targett, McGinn, Nakamba, Jacob Ramsey, Buendia, Watkins, Bailey.
Subs: Steer, Mings, Tuanzebe, Young, El Ghazi, Aaron Ramsey, Archer, Chukwuemeka, Davis.
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Ings not on the bench , maybe injured rather than dropped ?
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Ings isn't on the bench so guessing injured rather than dropped. I'd rather we stuck with Konsa and Mings together as they were generally excellent as a pair, just wobbly in a three. Still it's a proper formation, excited to see Bailey start. COYVB.
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Some big calls by the manager.
Hopefully he can get some sort of performance today. At least it's the front 3 most have been calling for.
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Reportedly a hamstring problem with Ings. Don't know why Luiz is out.
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Well done Dean Smith regarding the selection.
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Feel much more optimistic about this line up.
It feels much more like this will show the strengths of our team - and they owe a big performance too.
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Where is Bert?
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Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Hause, Targett, McGinn, Nakamba, Jacob Ramsey, Buendia, Watkins, Bailey.
Subs: Steer, Mings, Tuanzebe, Young, El Ghazi, Aaron Ramsey, Archer, Chukwuemeka, Davis.
Huge decision to drop the captain. Suggests to me that things aren't great behind the scenes. Much better shape to the team it has to be said.
Out injured/"ill" ...Traore, Ings, Luiz, Trez, Sanson
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Ings isn't on the bench so guessing injured rather than dropped. I'd rather we stuck with Konsa and Mings together as they were generally excellent as a pair, just wobbly in a three. Still it's a proper formation, excited to see Bailey start. COYVB.
Mings and Tuanzabee deserve to be dropped.
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Much better formation.
Not sure how I feel about Luiz and Mings dropping out. And would like to see either Watkins or Ings as a sub while the other plays for more options. Obviously some of this is down to injury, so no blame to Smith for that.
The players know their roles in this formation so it’s over to them. I was in two minds whether to watch it, but think I will.
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Where is Bert?
good question
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Where is Bert?
Good question. Was supposed to be in contention for Arsenal 9 days ago.
Bench is pretty weak so he would've been good option as when he's on it he can create or score out of little.
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Where is Bert?
East Manchester.
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Back to our more natural formation, one up front, for the first time Bailey and Buendia start together, and in their preferred positions no less. Let's hope this is it.
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Worried about the centre of the park
Mings dropped shows smith isnt happy with how much of a liability he has been.
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Wake up for Mings - he deserved to be dropped and finally has been.
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Worried about the centre of the park
Mings dropped shows smith isnt happy with how much of a liability he has been.
And also shows that all that crap people posted about him not being strong enough was indeed crap.
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Excited to see the front three. Hope the midfield 3 cope as there is nothing much on the bench to replace them if going wrong. Huge call leaving the skipper out. Deans made big calls, lets hope we play well
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A lot of youngsters today. Archer, Ramsey, Ramsey, Chukwuemeka, Davis
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I like seeing Buendia and Bailey either side of Ollie
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Where is Bert?
Good question. Was supposed to be in contention for Arsenal 9 days ago.
Bench is pretty weak so he would've been good option as when he's on it he can create or score out of little.
Thigh injury still.
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So... the Villa injury rumours turned out to be true and the West Ham injury rumours turned out to be bollocks? That's me shocked.
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A lot of youngsters today. Archer, Ramsey, Ramsey, Chukwuemeka, Davis
Surely Davis is in his thirties by now?
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Hope Archer gets some game time.
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Good to see aaron ramsey on the bench. He looks a promsing player
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Happy with the team, pity we haven't got Bert and Sanson on the bench.
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A lot of youngsters today. Archer, Ramsey, Ramsey, Chukwuemeka, Davis
Surely Davis is in his thirties by now?
Runs like a man in his 50s.
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My guess is that Kortney’s in to combat Antonio as Tyrone doesn’t like a physical battle
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Hope Archer gets some game time.
Yeah hes really come to the forefront.
Wishful thinking would be we are 2-0 up and Archer replaces Ollie and smashes another 2 in!
Not a strong Bench but some exciting youngsters and Davis.
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For all the money we've spent that midfield three is shit.
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A lot of youngsters today. Archer, Ramsey, Ramsey, Chukwuemeka, Davis
Surely Davis is in his thirties by now?
Runs like a man in his 50s.
He's a graduate then...
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My guess is that Kortney’s in to combat Antonio as Tyrone doesn’t like a physical battle
Good point, happy enough with the team as things needed shaking up a bit.
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Good to see aaron ramsey on the bench. He looks a promsing player
He is.
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Few good players missing; Traore, Ings, Luiz and Sanson.
Good to see some changes and four at the back.
Wonder if it’s a 4-4-2 diamond? That’s what NBCSN are reporting.
I can’t watch Sky Sports. 🤮
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For all the money we've spent that midfield three is shit.
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Indeed. I fear this.
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We need better midfielders - West Ham’s two are miles ahead of our three.
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For all the money we've spent that midfield three is shit.
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Indeed. I fear this.
Really?
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Few good players missing; Traore, Ings, Luiz and Sanson.
Good to see some changes and four at the back.
Wonder if it’s a 4-4-2 diamond? That’s what NBCSN are reporting.
I can’t watch Sky Sports. 🤮
433 it looks like...that's the way Moyes think it is anyway! Mings hasn't played well lately but with the switch to a back 4 I would have kept him in
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West Ham will come to throttle our midfield. I fear the worst, hope for the best. Dropping the captain is a massive call, I hope Dean knows what he's doing.
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Few good players missing; Traore, Ings, Luiz and Sanson.
Good to see some changes and four at the back.
Wonder if it’s a 4-4-2 diamond? That’s what NBCSN are reporting.
I can’t watch Sky Sports. 🤮
433 it looks like...that's the way Moyes think it is anyway! Mings hasn't played well lately but with the switch to a back 4 I would have kept him in
yeah, looked like a 4-3-3 to me too.
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Who’s captain today then?
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Who’s captain today then?
McGinn
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Few good players missing; Traore, Ings, Luiz and Sanson.
Good to see some changes and four at the back.
Wonder if it’s a 4-4-2 diamond? That’s what NBCSN are reporting.
I can’t watch Sky Sports. 🤮
433 it looks like...that's the way Moyes think it is anyway! Mings hasn't played well lately but with the switch to a back 4 I would have kept him in
Me too, I’d have played him and Konsa together today. I think Mings has really struggled with that crazy system and shot his confidence. Even Konsa has looked average lately.
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Big call dropping Mings.
No one should be undroppable, but the risk with that - if not handled sensitively - is you've got an England player unsettled and open to a move.
For all his iffy form recently, there would still be interest in him from top 8 clubs and it's a scenario I'd rather not face.
The irony is today, with the big units West Ham have in the side and their aptitude for set pieces, 3/5 at the back may have made sense. But we've probably seen enough of it recently to last three life times.
The front three looks promising. Hopefully it clicks. Not sure about that midfield.
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Couple of soft tissue issues and a couple of covid issues, says Dean.
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Long ball and bypass midfield for Watkins and Bailey to run on to.
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Couple of soft tissue issues and a couple of covid issues, says Dean.
And a water bottle issue.
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Couple of soft tissue issues and a couple of covid issues, says Dean.
So who was crying to require the soft tissue?
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The big calls in dropping players only work if you win.
Defeat today and the casual Villa watchers will blame dropping Mings.
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Couple of soft tissue issues and a couple of covid issues, says Dean.
So who was crying to require the soft tissue?
Sanson didn't like the toilet paper at Bodymoor.
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Someone inn squad has a covid related issue. Could be traore
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Decent line up. Let’s hope Nakamba wants the ball today.
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Glad of the switch from 3 cbs, big call dropping Mings to bench.
Not sure I would have done that unless Tyrone is not 100%.
Glad to see Bailey and Buendia either side of Watkins.
Midfield poorest area, but we knew this in the summer and it wasn’t addressed. UTV!
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I don’t feel comfortable about Smith dropping Mings. He’s not been alone in being poor and with Bailey playing wide left, I would have dropped Targett and played Hause left back instead.
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Mings looks fucked off.
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That fucking kick off, God I hate it.
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Dunno if anyone heard that someone was singing during the minutes silence and someone shouted at him shut up you wanker
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Mings looks fucked off.
which is what you'd want and expect to see, after seeing him drooped. if he was smiling id be nervous
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Konsa has taken over HOOF duty from Mings. Not the best tactic against the Uruk-Hai WHam have back there.
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The long balls are not a great sign.
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We seem to be playing with a back 7 at the moment
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Shit.
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FFS
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For fuck sake....
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Jesus Christ.
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Terrible start just letting West Ham play.
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Bye dean
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Oh well
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Rubbish.
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Bloody hell
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Bollocks.
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We’re crap. Absolutely crap
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Ah well, in it for six and a half minutes.
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We seem to have lost all self-belief and pattern of play
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Targett's form has been worse than Mings' this season.
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Why can’t we be good at something?
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Look totally devoid of any confidence confidence the back. Fucker will never score a goal like that in his life, mind. When things aren't going for you...
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Oh for ducks sake
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A truly pathetic opening 9 minutes.
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We look hopelessly poor
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This is beyond pathetic. This squad is much better than this. Why is this happening?
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Why are we dropping back and letting them play
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October has been bloody garbage for us
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Very soft goal. We look disjointed.
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Hoofball rules today
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Brilliant mcginn. Well done 😡
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Cheer up everyone, here comes a long throw!
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It looks like Bailey would be better on the right
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We look clueless in final third, would prefer Bailey on right tbh.
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God, what a corner.
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We ain't scoring a set piece goal against a Moyes team.
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Can we sack nanny mcphee
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Targett's form has been worse than Mings' this season.
Definitely
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Can't string three passes together, unless they're across the back four in the run up for a big hoof.
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Ramsay down now......
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Great corner, top notch.
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Surperb corner. Sensational stuff
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Utter dirge.
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I’d like to see that corner again. And again. And again.
Dreadful
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Do we practice giving the ball away in training
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Dean's style reputation is living off former glories right now. We've got a player like Leon Bailey on long throw duty, not to mention 'bung it in the box' follow-up crosses. If you looked at the bench and spotted Tony Pulis you wouldn't bat an eyelid.
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So… horseradish or English mustard with a Roast Beef?
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So… horseradish or English mustard with a Roast Beef?
Why not both?
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Ramsey injured by the grass, will have to go off. Young in midfield, oh joy!
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Something not right here. Our ability to pass the ball around with zip and intent is nowhere to be seen anymore. What’s happened and why? Confidence? New tactics? Bailey can run quick, let’s boot it over the top.
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So… horseradish or English mustard with a Roast Beef?
Why not both?
That might work. Round the in-laws and roast beef is on the table.
It’s either that or having to watch more of this sludge.
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Well fuck knows where Young is playing. Chucky should have come on.
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Jesus Mary Mother of God.
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Young in centre mid now? Christ.
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Young back in central midfield, this season is going well isn't it?!
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Jesus Mary Mother of God.
I’m about 2 mins behind you. I’m dreading this
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Keystone cops defending.
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Should be 2-1
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Young coming on for ramsey???
So your gonna move buendia back in the middle where he has been crap and have 36 year old young in midfield
Bloody look at a shitshow. So much from the response dean
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This could be embarrassing
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Assuming Buendia in Central midfield, Young wide.
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Should be 2-1
How?
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Young? Why?
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I've interrupted a nice stroll around Barcelona for this. :-(
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They are just so much better than us - physical, full of running, confident, look dangerous every time they get the ball.
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Should be 2-1
How?
Bailey missed one, then Bowen.
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For some reason, this has the same feel as that Man City game from a couple of seasons ago when we lost 5-1.
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That's why I don't rate Nakamba, all came because he didn't foul or win ball on halfway line. Luiz would've done one of those things.
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Why he didnt play chuk instead of young ill never know. Embarrassing
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I reckon if West Ham go 2 up, we're into booing territory.
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Why bring on Young?
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That's why I don't rate Nakamba, all came because he didn't foul or win ball on halfway line. Luiz would've done one of those things.
Genuinely had forgotten he was playing.
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Some of its confidence, but we just don't have enough quality in the middle.
Nakamba is a nice lad, but technically he simply isn't good enough, and just got bullied of the ball by Benrahma of all people.
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Young with a shit pass. God this is painful
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For some reason, this has the same feel as that Man City game from a couple of seasons ago when we lost 5-1.
Yeah, except it’s fucking David Moyes and West Ham, I don’t care how much momentum they are carrying into this match.. this is disgusting.
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I reckon if West Ham go 2 up, we're into booing territory.
Dean ain't making December, Wolves game will be his Stoke moment. Our confidence is shot to pieces.
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We’ve been fucking terrible.
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Throwing in a geriatric, eight-stone-wet-through Ashley Young against a powerful physical side like this is stupid.
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I think Oracle Cloud is being optimistic. 17% win chance for Villa? We are more like 0% win when we ship the first goal.
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Hause 🥺
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For some reason, this has the same feel as that Man City game from a couple of seasons ago when we lost 5-1.
Yeah, except it’s fucking David Moyes and West Ham, I don’t care how much momentum they are carrying into this match.. this is disgusting.
David Moyes is a good manager. I would have been happy to see him at Villa Park when he was linked in the past.
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For some reason, this has the same feel as that Man City game from a couple of seasons ago when we lost 5-1.
Yeah, except it’s fucking David Moyes and West Ham, I don’t care how much momentum they are carrying into this match.. this is disgusting.
West Ham only just avoided relegation in the season that we did. Some smart signings and they are pushing on. We threatened to push on. But instead, we’ve been foundering for the last few matches.
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This is eye bleedingly poor.
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The writing is on the wall and that pathetic substitution didn’t help matters. Dead man walking as it stands.
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For some reason, this has the same feel as that Man City game from a couple of seasons ago when we lost 5-1.
Yeah, except it’s fucking David Moyes and West Ham, I don’t care how much momentum they are carrying into this match.. this is disgusting.
West Ham only just avoided relegation in the season that we did. Some smart signings and they are pushing on. We threatened to push on. But instead, we’ve been foundering for the last few matches.
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Ashley Young looking every one of his 52 years so far.
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The pass from Konsa to Hause who then aimlessly hoofs it is inspired.
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And I’m doing double posts now and quoting myself.
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How does targett consistently get picked?
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£30m on Leon Bailey to get him to lauch long throws into the box, ancient football. Embarrasing.
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These throw-ins are embarrassing.
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David Moyes is a good manager. I would have been happy to see him at Villa Park when he was linked in the past.
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And yet most on here were appalled by the idea.
We have absolutely no style of play whatsoever.
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Cash playing really well. But the rest of the teamz been terrible.wheres the aggression press closing
Terrible smiths taking us down frlm what im seeing see so far
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We haven't laid a glove on them.
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Like 3-5-2, the long throws have had their time this season.
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Why is Bailey taking long throws when he can only get it about 20 feet? Seriously, that's just embarrassingly unprofessional.
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It's clear that the switch to 433 was very much ad hoc and the players have simply not been training in this system. They don't know where to go or what to do.
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Mmm our confidence is shot to pieces. This time last year we feared no one but now we are scared stiff
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Keep playing like this and it’s the Championship for us.
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Mmm our confidence is shot to pieces. This time last year we feared no one but now we are scared stiff
This is true.
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Who the fuck is our RW?
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Buendia is a passenger. 40m for a bloody passenger
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Who the fuck is our RW?
Buendia was at the start....we look a mess
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Bringing Young on is totally perplexing.
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We just look so slow, devoid of ideas, totally lacking sophistication and structure. What do they even do in training?
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Who the fuck is our RW?
Who’s our #10?!
Nakamba and Young thru the middle..? TF are we doing.
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Targett you bloody clown
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Is smith looking for the sack? Why do we look so fucking terrified?
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I think there's going to be a 'Glen Whelan taking the penalty' moment to bringing Ashley Young on.
We look abysmal, no shape or identity. This is absolutely piss poor.
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Who the hell thinks having Watkins mark antonio is a good idea????
Shocking tactics
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Bringing Young on is totally perplexing.
He tried and failed him at CM earlier in the season. I know options are limited but surely one of the young guns would have been a better sub
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This is going nowhere. I am so disappointed. We have gone backwards.
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Smith needs a big second half.
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This is frustrating. So frustrating. We threatened to move on, instead we’re looking like relegation fodder again.
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Smith needs a big second half.
Or a taxi
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Thats better!! Pressure ffs
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We are the best in the league at working a dangerous set piece back to our own goalkeeper.
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West Ham just seem to have so much time on the ball
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That was much better by Young.
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I reckon if West Ham go 2 up, we're into booing territory.
Dean ain't making December, Wolves game will be his Stoke moment. Our confidence is shot to pieces.
This is exactly right. Boos at full time and I don't think he'll make Monday.
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The not buying a defensive midfielder is biting us on the arse again.
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This is boring.
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We’ve regressed so much in a few weeks. From a massively morale boosting battering of Everton, a thoroughly professional display in a win at Man U, to not having a fucking clue since.
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I’d have Chuk and Archer for Buendia and Targett at half time. Can’t be any worse.
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Thank fuck
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GOAAAALLLLLLLLL
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The not buying a defensive midfielder is biting us on the arse again.
The annoying thing is it was so fucking obvious that we needed one.
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YAAAAS
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Yes!!! Ollie!!!
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OMG Olly!
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GETT INNN, great goal!!!
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Good move all round. Nice by Young and McGinn, excellent by Buendia and Watkins did what he had to.
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Yessssss ollie!!
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Get the fuck in.
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Really well worked goal. We're capable of it!
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Great goal.
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That makes me feel happier
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Great stuff from mcginn and buendiA!
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Yeeeeeees!
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Brillisnt from Buendia
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Get in!
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All came from Cash showing some positive intent. Well played Buendia too.
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More of that please FFS.
Well done to Emi and Ollie.
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Delighted with the goal but good grief the finish was a little fortunate. Lots of the net to shoot at and it was right at the keeper. Hey, will take anything right now.
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:-[almost let them back in straight away
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Come on Villa! Great goal
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Fucks sake.
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Bollocks.
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That didn’t last. I’m off to kick pumpkins over
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We just limply let them pass the ball all around the pitch unimpeded, and it results in that.
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Fucking typical.
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Wow.
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Delighted with the goal but good grief the finish was a little fortunate. Lots of the net to shoot at and it was right at the keeper. Hey, will take anything right now.
I’ve seen this a few times with Ollie. His shots tend to go quite close to the keeper - I guess they’re harder to save than blasting for power? But a lot are deflected or the keeping gets a hand on then
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That's two players who've saved today to score the best goal of their life, then. Fucking great.
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Fuck off. What is wrong with Martinez?
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Oh Christ
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Oh piss off villa you useless fucks
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Martinez at fault for both goals. Shocking keeping.
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Fuck off. What is wrong with Martinez?
Sick dad?
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We don’t close down players around our box.
Shambles
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For fucks sake. This is going to be a long night.
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Terrible.
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Cowardly defending again...whatever happened to throwing yourself in front of the ball. For both goals we have had players who have shyed away from the shot.
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Someone has to close Rice down, pathetic
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Sometimes you just want to give up with this team. 2 or 3 steps back for every one forward.
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Bollocks.
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Martinez at fault for both goals. Shocking keeping.
Maybe unsighted for the second
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Im sorry but no fuckin closing down again no shape. You can say martinez but fucking hell no closing at all.its dog shit
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Second one he's no idea Rice has shot until it's too late. It looks bad but see it behind the goal he's got so little time to react.
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Martinez is still on a plane somewhere.
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Martinez doing his best Glen Whelan impression.
How much fucking time and space do we want to give them though. Non existent pressing.
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Im sorry but no fuckin closing down again no shape. You can say martinez but fucking hell no closing at all.its dog shit
This - that goal came from us just watching them pass the ball all over the pitch, no attempt to stop them, absolute shite.
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Get Nakamba off the fucking pitch. Drops back and back and back.
He doesn’t understand what he’s doing. Get him out - we don’t need a “stopper” we need a CDM. Joke.
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Decent cross by Targett.
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I'm calling it now. Get rid of McPhee.
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Get Nakamba off the fucking pitch. Drops back and back and back.
He doesn’t understand what he’s doing. Get him out - we don’t need a “stopper” we need a CDM. Joke.
But there wasn't one available in the summer. Anywhere!!!
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When we had a back four with, yes Mings in it, we had one of the best defences in the league. Why the fuck do managers feel the need to change things, especially when it makes things worse.
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we're really not a good football team.
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Get Nakamba off the fucking pitch. Drops back and back and back.
He doesn’t understand what he’s doing. Get him out - we don’t need a “stopper” we need a CDM. Joke.
Nakamba and Young in midfield. How did that happen.
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I think we’re missing the defensive coaching of Terry too. Our defence has been rotten in the last few games
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I'm calling it now. Get rid of McPhee.
You can’t, I called it few posts back
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Dean saying we didnt need a cm has come back to bite him in the arse big time.
He has to go to me.the mentality of the team is fractured and thats on smith no one else
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I have Karen Carney on co-comms. I have nothing against her but the knowledge that she's a Bloser is riling me.
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Teams that concede as many as we do usually get relegated.
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Get Nakamba off the fucking pitch. Drops back and back and back.
He doesn’t understand what he’s doing. Get him out - we don’t need a “stopper” we need a CDM. Joke.
Nakamba and Young in midfield. How did that happen.
We’ve had some truly shit midfield combinations as a PL side. This is amongst the absolute worst.
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The most depressing thing in all this is we thought the days of poking about in 15th place were over. Not looking that way currently.
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The most depressing thing in all this is we thought the days of poking about in 15th place were over. Not looking that way currently.
Would take 15th as things stand. I think we could go down.
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I have Karen Carney on co-comms. I have nothing against her but the knowledge that she's a Bloser is riling me.
It’s dreadful. And at the risk of sounding massively pompous, the Brummie drone she brings with her just doesn’t work on TV.
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a few hundred million spent and it's Ashley Young and Nakamba in midfield.
Sums it up for me.
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The most depressing thing in all this is we thought the days of poking about in 15th place were over. Not looking that way currently.
We might end up there this season but it won’t be with Dean Smith as manager.
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This, at the moment, does feel like relegation form
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We stand off around our box and let Rice place one into the corner, they crowd out McGinn and he scuffs it wide.
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Fuck me, West Ham had a shot from forty yards and it didn't fly in.
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Fuck off. What is wrong with Martinez?
28 hours in an aeroplane
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Why cant we have the mcginn of scotland. This mcginn of villas finishing is dreadful
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The most depressing thing in all this is we thought the days of poking about in 15th place were over. Not looking that way currently.
We needed to keep grealish and sign Buendia & Bailey. Instead we sold grealish and pocketed £15 million. Well do well to finish 14th or above as all the others strengthened
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Emi ffs
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Why cant we have the mcginn of scotland. This mcginn of villas finishing is dreadful
It was on his "wrong" foot
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All we do is hit it long to Bailey and occasionally Buendia, completely by passing the midfield.
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The most depressing thing in all this is we thought the days of poking about in 15th place were over. Not looking that way currently.
We needed to keep grealish and sign Buendia & Bailey. Instead we sold grealish and pocketed £15 million. Well do well to finish 14th or above as all the others strengthened
Ratboy wanted to go and had a release clause. Not much we could do about it.
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We don't seem to know what we want to do. No identity at all.
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I'm convinced there's a good team lurking here.
Even low on confidence and yet in last 10 minutes we strung together a good move for the goal and also towards the end of the half.
Just don't think DS is capable anymore of getting that good form I'm afraid.
Massively disappointing to lose that goal so soon after getting back to 1-1, thought Emi should've saved it even if it was right in the corner.
Point at best. We're done for if it goes 1-3 given lack of bench options.
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Bailey does not look right but our midfield is the problem.
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The buzz has left VP.
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Fuck off. What is wrong with Martinez?
28 hours in an aeroplane
I'm not happy with him for either goal...should be saving both
Hause has done ok to be fair...but we look really poor. Maybe unsurprising but our midfield three are a complete mess. Neither pressing West Ham nor protecting our defence to any degree. Cash our best so far and we did create a fine goal. But this is a cruise for West Ham.
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
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When Dean Smith said we were 18 months from the Champions League, did he actually say Championship?
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I think we should be working our arses off to get in the very best manager available or unavailable. I like Dean the person, but if he thinks this is how to make up for the start to the season then he’s kidding himself.
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
I'd be happy to see a bit of bust. We've already seen too much of the other.
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Fuck off. What is wrong with Martinez?
28 hours in an aeroplane
I'm not happy with him for either goal...should be saving both
Hause has done ok to be fair...but we look really poor. Maybe unsurprising but our midfield three are a complete mess. Neither pressing West Ham nor protecting our defence to any degree. Cash our best so far and we did create a fine goal. But this is a cruise for West Ham.
I like Hause for his attitude and how he often comes away from a challenge with the ball at his feet. His passing is playground level.
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What a load of fucking shite. Any chance of Martinez making a save this season. Just one?
Terrible midfield, no organisation at all. Set pieces are a joke, and all we do is pass backwards.
Smith out, clown of a manager.
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I'm calling it now. Get rid of McPhee.
You can’t, I called it few posts back
Christ. Are we saying Danny Murphy called it correct. If so, that’s it, I’m giving up watching football.
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Buendia is showing flashes of quality. Hopefully he or Bailey can get us back into it. Be nice if we could have a bit of luck and West Ham could stop scoring screamers.
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Bailey does not look right but our midfield is the problem.
Agree.
Midfield is an issue unfortunately no one to retain possession
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Honestly deans gonna blame injuries but sorry im.not having that. The menatlity is so fragile. They get no confidence of scoring they go back like cowards and pettrified.
I dont want that identity for my club
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Not sure who it was on five live, but they said Buendia fshould be in the number ten role, that he's not happy on the right.
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Not sure who it was on five live, but they said Buendia fshould be in the number ten role, that he's not happy on the right.
Who is the #10 right now?
That’s the real question.
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In midfield West Ham have two excellent defensive midfielders.
We don't have any at the club, let alone on the pitch today - something plenty of people here were pointing out during the last transfer window.
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Nakamba just runs back into the penalty area when he should be closing down Rice.
Martinez should be stopping that though.
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Hause has defended well.
Everything falls apart with Targett.
Marv has done okay.
Cashley is pretty mediocre.
Confidence - shot; all round.
Get Buendia on the ball more.
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Fuck off. What is wrong with Martinez?
28 hours in an aeroplane
I'm not happy with him for either goal...should be saving both
Hause has done ok to be fair...but we look really poor. Maybe unsurprising but our midfield three are a complete mess. Neither pressing West Ham nor protecting our defence to any degree. Cash our best so far and we did create a fine goal. But this is a cruise for West Ham.
I like Hause for his attitude and how he often comes away from a challenge with the ball at his feet. His passing is playground level.
Agreed, his foot is like a 50 pence piece on the ball..but far from our worst problem
Nakamba has the odd good appearance for us but in truth to play consistently at this level you have to be miles better on the ball than he is
Assist aside, Buendia has been dreadful. McGinn anonymous, Bailey offering zilch
I wonder is it worth trying something completely different like getting Archer or Davis or both on at half time and bypassing midfield
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Maybe we should think about not playing Martinez while he’s travelling back and fourth to Argentina? It must be effecting his game.
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
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Deciding not to bring in a central midfielder is beginning to rival Steve Bruce's "we don't need a centre half, we've got Jedinak" in the annals of Villa managerial stupidity.
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Not sure who it was on five live, but they said Buendia fshould be in the number ten role, that he's not happy on the right.
Even though everyone said he'd play 90% of his time at Norwich on the right? I mean he set the goal up from that position.
Don't really like players been given endless excuses, he cost 30m + after all.
Would prefer Bailey on the right though, not convinced he's as effective the other side. If we're down 2-1 with 15 left we'll probably put AEG on for Nakamba so Buendia would go 10 then.
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Super lazy defending for both goals. Lack of physicality all over the pitch apart from Hause. Lack of a DCM will cost Smith his job, Nakamba doing ok, but ok isn't enough. Sanson must be absolutely shit for him not to get into this team.
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In midfield West Ham have two excellent defensive midfielders.
We don't have any at the club, let alone on the pitch today - something plenty of people here were pointing out during the last transfer window.
For years it was us being a striker short, then Bruce left us a defender short, then we came up to the premier-league a striker short, and last year we were a striker short. Now we are a CDM short.
We don't do ourselves any favours.
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Cash our best player so far, good from Buendia for our goal.
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Not sure who it was on five live, but they said Buendia fshould be in the number ten role, that he's not happy on the right.
Who is the #10 right now?
That’s the real question.
Carrie Johnson
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Big 45 for dean.
Don’t understand why we brought on Ashley young - should have gone for Chuck I reckon.
Don’t see what Ashley young adds.
Feels like it’s one of those games at the end of a tenure - where everything go wrong and compounds the issues around there
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Have you been watching the game?
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Everything is fine. We are playing really well. West Ham are terrible. Our set pieces are a credit to the club. Better?
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Could do without Martinez flying around the world so often. Obviously affecting his performances. Unfortunate to end up with this midfield 3.
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We look like we can concede at any moment, midfield shape is an alien concept to us and there is little cutting edge up top. Apart from that, we're grand.
That said, I don't think West Ham are all that.
We can still get a draw at least out of this one.
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Have you been watching the game?
What a ridiculous question!! I’m saying the negativity is shocking on this thread!!! I’m getting behind the team, how about you??
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Only reason West Ham are leading though are from two lucky strikes.
If anything we've been better team a seen nothing of this so called form player Antonio and Benrahma, Bowen.
We did well and playing OK. Making some changes and offering some attack
So nothing to bad outside of score.
Can turn this around with right play.
Up the Villa.
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No half-time changes
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Just like the football on the pitch then. Yay, we are losing 1-2 and playing like a bag of tethered rabbits.....We look like shit and were behind after 7 mins then again 4 mins after equalising. But I will remain positive.....
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Also - what the fuck do these new two coaches do - something is really wrong
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We look like we can concede at any moment, midfield shape is an alien concept to us and there is little cutting edge up top. Apart from that, we're grand.
That said, I don't think West Ham are all that.
We can still get a draw at least out of this one.
Probably the best summary. We were poor for first half hour and then out of nowhere did a nice move that got us to 1-1.
I'd be tempted to get AEG on just to stretch them a bit more.
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Have you been watching the game?
What a ridiculous question!! I’m saying the negativity is shocking on this thread!!! I’m getting behind the team, how about you??
Well good for you.
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VAR checking for possible Villa red cards.
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Ashley youngs fault for this dangedous freekick. A brilliant sub deano
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This could be bad.
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You just know it ain't going our way either.
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Hause could be red carded here
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Red imho
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Hause not sent off. Konsa might be.
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Konsa off.
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No was is that a goalscoring opportunity.
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Wonderful by hause.......elbow to the face. But konsa off.
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Hause, I meant.
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The midfield had about three chances to deal with that attack. Fucking shite.
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Oh bollocks
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Konsa red card
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Would rather they'd sent Hause off.
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Rilliant red for konsa
Oh fuck off
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Awful decision by the ref.
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"Dean Smith bemused..."
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Smith having a go at the 4th official but I can see how that was a red.
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Ffs Buendia going off.
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Mings for buendia.
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All because of Nakamba and Young fuck up.
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Joke of a red card that, Konsa barely touched Bowen.
Hause probably could've gone instead.
Have to get Mings on now....
Game over.
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Awful decision by the ref.
It was a clear red card.
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It’s turned into one of those horrible ruts. They’re very low on confidence but nothing is going for them.
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No was is that a goalscoring opportunity.
An absolute fucking joke of a decision.
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Not a goal scoring opportunity really. We are so good at shooting ourselves in the foot.
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Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Shit or bust for Dean now.
When AEG and Davis are only realistic sub options left to change the game I think it's s*** terrority.
Lose to Southampton and I think he's done for.
For Christ sake we haven’t lost this game yet!! The negativity on this thread is unbelievable
Have you been watching the game?
What a ridiculous question!! I’m saying the negativity is shocking on this thread!!! I’m getting behind the team, how about you??
Well good for you.
Grow up mate and support your (?) team
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Terrible decision.
There must be a new rule, red card and you have to bring a Mings on.
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Smith having a go at the 4th official but I can see how that was a red.
Well let me know because I can't.
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Well, there's Smith's excuse.
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Buendia one of the few who looked capable of delivering a spark. Young presumably staying on so Smith doesn't have to admit making a mistake.
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Hause could have seen red, honestly can't see why the ref went against his initial reaction re Konsa.
Load of bollocks.
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We've done nothing but sign championship players. Eventually, that's where it gets you. Release clause or not if he thought there was a realistic chance this "project" would work Jack would have stayed.
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Why has Buendia not gone to the dugout?
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Buendia looking not too happy there.
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I thought Hause was a guaranteed red.
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Mings for buendia.
Smith HAS TO GO.
Unfucking real.
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Can we just remember for a moment why this came about because the super sub ashley young lost the ball very poorly leaving us in trouble.
All on smith. What pisses me off is smith will have aexcuse tk survive another week now
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Should have taken Young off.
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Young should have been taken off.
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We’ve seen them given already this season. Nobody is worse than anybody else in the team to be fair, they need a stroke of luck.
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What an utterly bizarre 5 mins. Dean right up against it now
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Why has Buendia not gone to the dugout?
He's fucking pissed off, and I can see why. Takw Targett or Young off. We need to score.
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Young should have been taken off.
Correct.
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and Hause should have been sent off too
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Joke of a red card that, Konsa barely touched Bowen.
Hause probably could've gone instead.
Have to get Mings on now....
Game over.
I have to admit I thought the ref could have sent both Konsa and Hause off. That was the outcome I was half expecting.
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Young should have been taken off.
He should never have come on.
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Bizarre decision to take Buendia off instead of Young.
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They're looking as ill disciplined as the Arsenal game, I thought we'd get one sent off in that. It's going to happen when you're shape is all over the shop, you're frustrated and losing the battles. We've lost two coaches and our captain in the summer and we've replaced them with a Championship player and a a bloke who's set piece coaching seems to be stealing Tony Pulis' 15 year old tactics.
It's a shit show, we've lost a lot of guile and brains behind the scenes and now were left with Smith talking bollocks about reactions and not getting the rub of the green.
Really, really poor summers business and a big hole in the identity and leadership of the team. Headless rabble at the moment. Needs changing, starting with a manager with a bit more to him.
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Bugger, off the bar.
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Hause was a red. Konza wasn’t.
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In circumstances I actually think change makes sense.
Front two of Bailey an Ollie and Young can tuck in on the left.
Harsh on Buendia.
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Off the crossbar
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Regardless of what the fans think, it looks to me as if Smith's losing the players.
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Anywhere else on the pitch thats not even a foul
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Joke of a red card that, Konsa barely touched Bowen.
Hause probably could've gone instead.
Have to get Mings on now....
Game over.
I have to admit I thought the ref could have sent both Konsa and Hause off. That was the outcome I was half expecting.
For me hause was more of a red. But u cant give konsa a red if your penalising hause as that happened after the initial foul so konsa card would ahve to be rescinded
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The thing is - West Ham aren’t great.
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Fuck off long throws. I could be a better set piece coach.
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This I do agree with, what does it say about our squad if that’s the best option?
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I think times up.
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The thing is - West Ham aren’t great.
Neither are we.
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Ollie should've scored that.
Not sure we'll get a better chance than that.
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I cannot put into words how furious I am at the moment.
If the owners are ambitious, prove it. If the players are ambitious, prove it.
Sick to my stomach.
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Can we fuck this big donkey long throw bollocks off in to the bin please.
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Bizarre decision to take Buendia off instead of Young.
Absolutely, also to bring him on on the first place.
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Regardless of what the fans think, it looks to me as if Smith's losing the players.
I does feel like that. Dropping your captain is rarely ends well.
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The fact that that Pullisian long throw is genuinely our best creative option, then we are in big trouble.
It's fucking embarrassing that we always use it in the first place, it's even worse that we rely on it so much.
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Bizarre decision to take Buendia off instead of Young.
Absolutely, also to bring him on on the first place.
Both points are spot on for me. The guys clueless
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Regardless of what the fans think, it looks to me as if Smith's losing the players.
I does feel like that. Dropping your captain is rarely ends well.
We look more a of a team now he’s on, even with 10
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There's nothing wrong with having a long throw as a creative option. The problem is when it seems to be our own only creative option. A situation not helped by the decision to take our most creative player off so that we can keep someone from the Villa Old Stars on the pitch.
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What do you suggest they do?
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Archer and Chuk please.
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Archer and Chuk please.
Only one sub left?
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The thing is - West Ham aren’t great.
Neither are we.
But...but West Ham are in Champions League chase.
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Archer and Chuk please.
Only one sub left?
Not if Smith runs on and concusses one of our players.
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Archer and Chuk please.
Only one sub left?
I'm a cheat and also just sat down.
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Archer and Chuk please.
Only one sub left?
Not if Smith runs on and concusses one of our players.
I’m concussed watching this
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Archer and Chuk please.
Only one sub left?
I'm a cheat and also just sat down.
Get off your arse and concuss someone. Cd said it’s ok...
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Dont understand why youbgs going so wide with that freekick all our big lads were in the middle ffs
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Archer and Chuk please.
Only one sub left?
Not if Smith runs on and concusses one of our players.
I’m concussed watching this
Can you play central midfield?
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Never, ever a red card. Smith has lost the players here, but that was fucked up by VAR. I don't think he's actually touched Bowen at all.
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In peoples opinions what has been the difference since the Everton and Man U games?
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They have dropped off the press by 10-15%
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This is dire.
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I don't think the players really look like they believe in the manager.
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Archer and Chuk please.
Only one sub left?
Not if Smith runs on and concusses one of our players.
I’m concussed watching this
Can you play central midfield?
Was a right wing back years ago but as we play out of position I will get my kit...
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Its unbelievable he has left young on who looks like he needs tk be subbed as he is gassing.
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I don't think the players really look like they believe in the manager.
Buendia doesn’t.
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Get some of the Kids on!!!!
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In peoples opinions what has been the difference since the Everton and Man U games?
Legion is at the game.
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One thing I will say the ref isn’t helping. He’s been awful, just given another terrible decision.
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Ridiculous free kick.
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Good save thst
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Good save Emi.
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Good save Martinez.
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This is dire.
Bizarrely we’ve played better with 10 if you ask me
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Never a foul.
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Good save Emi.
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As frustrating as this is playing with 10 men is making things a lot more difficult.
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This is dire.
Bizarrely we’ve played better with 10 if you ask me
Agreed.
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Just keep the score down now.
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How on earth was that a free kick.
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This is dire.
Bizarrely we’ve played better with 10 if you ask me
I think because Mings brings more to us when he’s on the pitch than he gets credit for.
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As frustrating as this is playing with 10 men is making things a lot more difficult.
We're looking better with ten.
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West Ham haven’t been that good to be fair. I would love to hear what Smith says after each game?
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How many games have we been poor in during the last 10 months. We've won 8 and lost 17 games in 2021. That's just not good enough 35 points in 36 games, relegation battle form for the entirety of this year. Smith's a busted flush, doesn't have Grealish to keep bailing him out.
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AEG for Bailey.......
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Trouble with today, the players have never looked like they believe they can win here. They look beaten from the first kick, same goes with last week at Arsenal.
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Ref is fucking shit, aside from the big calls almost every time they concede a free kick the ball gets kicked away and he's just ignoring it.
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AEG for Bailey.......
To be fair Bailey has been anonymous
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Bailey played for longer than I expected.
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Nakamba is a total passenger. Offers nothing.
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The Sky commentary has been even more biased today than usual which is quite an achievement. We've been poor but they make Spam sound like Brazil 1970.
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AEG for Bailey.......
To be fair Bailey has been anonymous
Think he was decent but still not fully fit. AEG has a goal in him, I reckon. *Clutches at world's tiniest straw.
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El ghazi for bailey there goes the white flag with no creativity in this team.
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Bailey played for longer than I expected.
Did he, not sure I noticed
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Bailey looked very subdued today, a bit rather like the rest of the team. We have infected him with Villa-itis already
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Nakamba is a total passenger. Offers nothing.
Shush, Newcastle may be listening
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Fucking hell Nakamba.
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West Ham haven’t been that good to be fair. I would love to hear what Smith says after each game?
Blames the officials.
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Trouble with today, the players have never looked like they believe they can win here. They look beaten from the first kick, same goes with last week at Arsenal.
Wolves game has killed our mentality.
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Nakamba really is quite hopeless.
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We do look like a team who need a change of direction. I think defeat at Southampton on Sky next will see the end of Smiths reign, they will then have the international break to try and stop the rot.
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Nakamba is a total passenger. Offers nothing.
Agreed, puts in a shift but no impact
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Fucking hell Nakamba.
Woeful
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Fucking hell Nakamba.
That's his real name on his birth certificate. Marvellous is just a nickname. He'd fit in with the team that got relegated. He's fucking rubbish.
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Nakamba really is quite hopeless.
He should never ever play for us again.
I’d rather use the kids.
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Nakamba. Speechless.
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Trouble with today, the players have never looked like they believe they can win here. They look beaten from the first kick, same goes with last week at Arsenal.
Wolves game has killed our mentality.
Wasn't we 2-0 up and lost 2-3 against Leicester the year we went down?
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The fact that we have Young and Nakamba in central midfield suggests that, recruitment wise, someone has dropped a brick somewhere.
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Fucking hell Nakamba.
Again, someone we needed to replace this summer
Woeful
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Yeah watching Nakamba attempt to pass the ball sometimes is incredibly painful.
Think West Ham are just happy to play out the 1-2 here. Put Lanzini on just to get more possesion of the ball and not throwing too many forward for the counters.
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The fact that we have Young and Nakamba in central midfield suggests that, recruitment wise, someone has dropped a brick somewhere.
Great point.
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How Young is still on the pitch is incredulous.
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4 straight defeats and really bad defeats at that has to be close to the end for Dean. We look utterly devoid of ideas on how to get out of this.
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Gonna be down to nine men here if Nakamba is injured.
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Incredible refereeing, dopey looking useless c**t.
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Referee is a wanker
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FFS.
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Should have been red for Fornals
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Bowen should have gone then
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This ref is a joke, how can he not play advantage?!!!!!!
Stops the play just to book them.
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Fuck me! Dodgy ref.
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How can Fornells throw McGinn to the ground with that force and only get a yellow?
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Game over and shit referree means shouldn’t be a goal
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This refs a fuckin knob
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he should have at least played the advantage.
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How is Bowen’s not a red??
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Gonna be down to nine men here if Nakamba is injured.
It’s nine with him anyway.
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How typical is that
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That’s goodnight Dean Smith.
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Fuck right off.
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A third goal from a player who shouldn't have been on the pitch.
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McGinn gets booked for what falling over? He's one yellow off a 1 match ban which we could do without.
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Goodbye Dean.
He shouldn’t even be on the fucking pitch.
Disgusting.
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Sickener that is. Ashley Young stops fucking running which leaves Fornells free. The ref has given Smith plenty of excuses for tonight’s after match conference.
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And that as they say, is that. Goodnight Villa, goodbye Dean. It was a lot of fun at times. It’s just painful now.
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Absolute fuckeries from this idiot ref.
What is the point in bringing back the play to give that twat a yellow.
Kevin Fiend's uglier gimp brother.
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Im done
Smith fucking resign
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Game over in more ways than one, I suspect.
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we are in a relegation battle now for sure. We have to hope that the Toon don't buy their way out of trouble in Jan.
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That’s shocking from the ref and could be it for Smith.
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Go get him meatballs!
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Oh just fuck off. Bowen should have gone for shoving SJM over
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Shocking ref has handed the 3 points to them.
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Annoying that we have a decent attack and he calls it back, two minutes later the same happens in reverse and he waves play on.
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Neither Bowen or Fornels should still be on the pitch. Disgusting
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Quit now, Dean - before all the good stuff you've done over the years gets tarnished.
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This has relegation stamped all over it.
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Shocking ref has handed the 3 points to them.
I’m not sure on that. Poor decisions but our dreadful play has played its part.
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When you’re in shit form your luck goes out the window with it
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Ref has been shocking. But this is the kind of result and game managers on their way out get. No luck, but with 11 we were of the pace.
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We're back to giving the opposition 15+ shots every game as well.
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Annoying that we have a decent attack and he calls it back, two minutes later the same happens in reverse and he waves play on.
Yup. We looked like we might grab a goal.
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3 fucking goals again.
How many fucking times must be concede 3 fucking goals this season?
Club has gone rotten again
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I’ve been really impressed with West Ham until today. They haven’t been very good and been helped a fair bit by us and the ref. 1-4. Smith is gone.
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the referee has been poor - but even if he was better we'd still be getting beat.
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My God.
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Rugby score. This is disgusting.
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This is a wheels falling off the clown car season, and something needs to be done asap to stop the rot.
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Fuck it!
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He's got to go.
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Time to 'beat the traffic'.
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He will blame the referee but we deserve to lose. Too many players have let themselves down.
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Queue the pundits saying we will deserve to go down if we sack Smith.
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we are in a relegation battle now for sure. We have to hope that the Toon don't buy their way out of trouble in Jan.
Why?
Make a change and we can probably string together 2-3 wins and 2-3 draws before 2022 and that will get us to 20 points + and back to mid table.
Just don't get this idea we should just wait months of the season out of blind loyalty to DS before getting to Feb and suddenly realising we need to make a change.
Reminds me of when we took way too long to sack Lambert in 14/15 and then we suddenly started winning a few games at the start under Sherwood.
1-4.
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Dreadful
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Dean, I love you. Thank you very much for giving us our club back but please, I beg, leave before the memories are tarnished.
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Ref has been shocking. But this is the kind of result and game managers on their way out get. No luck, but with 11 we were of the pace.
exactly, this is what happens, when you need a bit of luck you get the opposite.
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You cannot lose 4-1 at home, the 4th defeat in a row and survive as manager.
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Young looked to roll his eyeballs when taking instructions from Smith then.
Although what those instructions might actually hope to change at this point is beyond me.
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we are in a relegation battle now for sure. We have to hope that the Toon don't buy their way out of trouble in Jan.
Why?
Make a change and we can probably string together 2-3 wins and 2-3 draws before 2022 and that will get us to 20 points + and back to mid table.
You misread my post. I'm not advocating keeping him. I am saying we are in the shit right now. we need to act now.
Just don't get this idea we should just wait months of the season out of blind loyalty to DS before getting to Feb and suddenly realising we need to make a change.
Reminds me of when we took way too long to sack Lambert in 14/15 and then we suddenly started winning a few games at the start under Sherwood.
1-4.
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You cannot lose 4-1 at home, the 4th defeat in a row and survive as manager.
I think he'll survive this game.
I don't see him surviving losing to Southampton though. 5 defeats in a row, two week international break and we'll be barely above bottom 3.
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You cannot lose 4-1 at home, the 4th defeat in a row and survive as manager.
You cannot/should not do a lot of things that DS did today.
Giving up goals with 4 defenders behind the ball, down a man or not, is unacceptable.
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
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It's 1-4 and West Ham get a free kick. German commentator: Aston Villa need to be careful this doesn't become a complete disaster.
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He's got to go.
No he hasn’t.
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We’ve made Arsenal and West Ham look incredible. In fact we’ve kick started Arsenals season like we did with Leicester a few years back. Reckon we’ll give Norwich and Newcastle their first wins of the season?
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He's got to go.
No he hasn’t.
Enjoy the relegation battle.
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
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He's got to go.
No he hasn’t.
Why? He should have gone March 2020.
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We gave it a go for 15 minutes but we must be one of the worst teams playing 10 men and then when we go to 10 men down around.
Incredible to think we couldn't score v Sheffield united away last season when they went down to 10 men with 30 minutes left.
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
It’s easy to criticise. One thing I will say apart from the folk living in a different country do we have the right to criticise so much when none of us are at the game again?😂
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
It’s easy to criticise. One thing I will say apart from the folk living in a different country do we have the right to criticise so much when none of us are at the game again?😂
Of course we do.
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How did we go from the performance against Everton to the performances of late?
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He's got to go.
No he hasn’t.
Why? He should have gone March 2020.
And we've a net spend of how much across the 3 windows since? Including taking away the world class talent at his disposal.
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
It’s easy to criticise. One thing I will say apart from the folk living in a different country do we have the right to criticise so much when none of us are at the game again?😂
Of course we do.
Good answer 🤨
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
It’s easy to criticise. One thing I will say apart from the folk living in a different country do we have the right to criticise so much when none of us are at the game again?😂
I don’t know what you mean
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How did we go from the performance against Everton to the performances of late?
The warning signs were there at the Everton game…the first half was awful in that game and the excellent goals merely papered over the cracks. Let’s not pretend we played well against Everton despite taking 3 points and scoring some excellent goals (plus they had 3 of their best players out injured).
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How did we go from the performance against Everton to the performances of late?
In fairness the first half of that wasn’t “great”.
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
It’s easy to criticise. One thing I will say apart from the folk living in a different country do we have the right to criticise so much when none of us are at the game again?😂
I don’t know what you mean
I think there’s a lot of criticism from fans who don’t even pay to go the home games that’s all.
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Another 90 minutes watching a miserable Villa performance, at the moment the team seems to have no confidence at all, though before they scored the 3rd, I thought we played our best football with 10 men. Smith taking off Buendia made no sense at all, Young or Nakamba should have gone.
Even when we were doing well last season, I never really thought Smith was the man to take us forward, if we lose on Friday, then I would think he would be in danger of the sack, but there again the board have always been very supportive of him and may give him a bit longer.
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
It’s easy to criticise. One thing I will say apart from the folk living in a different country do we have the right to criticise so much when none of us are at the game again?😂
I don’t know what you mean
I think there’s a lot of criticism from fans who don’t even pay to go the home games that’s all.
What a load of horse shit. I go to as many home games as I can get to, but that doesn’t devalue the opinion of someone who is unable to attend any games at all or not as often as myself or others. Every supporter has a right to voice an opinion or criticise whether they’ve been to the game or not.
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Its like being under lambert all over again
Resign as soon as games over
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but Jesus Christ your negativity just pisses me off. Give it a fucking rest. It’s bad enough losing but I’m sure we could all do without your constant negativity
It’s easy to criticise. One thing I will say apart from the folk living in a different country do we have the right to criticise so much when none of us are at the game again?😂
I don’t know what you mean
I think there’s a lot of criticism from fans who don’t even pay to go the home games that’s all.
What a load of horse shit. I go to as many home games as I can get to, but that doesn’t devalue the opinion of someone who is unable to attend any games at all or not as often as myself or others. Every supporter has a right to voice an opinion or criticise whether they’ve been to the game or not.
🥱 Nothings changed on here….