Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ad@m on October 31, 2021, 07:58:46 AM
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Not sure where to put this so thought here was as good as anywhere.
Since covid the kiosk situation at VP seems worse than ever, culminating in a 25 minute wait over half time at the Wolves game to get served.
I'm taking my lad to the game later and I'm not up for another long wait so I'm planning to take drinks with us.
Does anyone know what the situation is at the turnstiles though with drinks? Obviously when you buy plastic bottles at the kiosks they keep the lids. Presumably they don't do the same at the turnstiles? I've checked the OS but the link to the ground regulations is dead!
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maybe something like a caprisun may be suitable? different packaging and no lid. Or maybe juice cartons?
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Not sure where to put this so thought here was as good as anywhere.
Since covid the kiosk situation at VP seems worse than ever, culminating in a 25 minute wait over half time at the Wolves game to get served.
I'm taking my lad to the game later and I'm not up for another long wait so I'm planning to take drinks with us.
Does anyone know what the situation is at the turnstiles though with drinks? Obviously when you buy plastic bottles at the kiosks they keep the lids. Presumably they don't do the same at the turnstiles? I've checked the OS but the link to the ground regulations is dead!
If they see them at the turnstile they will take the lids, hide a couple of spares about your body just in case.
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Put it in a condom and swallow it.
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Put it in a condom and swallow it.
My lad's only little but I'm not sure he'll fit in a condom. Even one of mine...
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Put it in a condom and swallow it.
My lad's only little but I'm not sure he'll fit in a condom. Even one of mine...
Very good.
Oh, and I'd just take a rucksack with a kids drinking bottle in it, buried in the middle somewhere wrapped in a coat, you'll be fine.
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Put it in a condom and swallow it.
My lad's only little but I'm not sure he'll fit in a condom. Even one of mine...
My apologies. I thought I was in the 'getting drugs out of Mexico' thread.
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Not sure where to put this so thought here was as good as anywhere.
Since covid the kiosk situation at VP seems worse than ever, culminating in a 25 minute wait over half time at the Wolves game to get served.
I'm taking my lad to the game later and I'm not up for another long wait so I'm planning to take drinks with us.
Does anyone know what the situation is at the turnstiles though with drinks? Obviously when you buy plastic bottles at the kiosks they keep the lids. Presumably they don't do the same at the turnstiles? I've checked the OS but the link to the ground regulations is dead!
I don't think they search kids do they? If not, put a couple in his coat pocket.
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Not sure where to put this so thought here was as good as anywhere.
Since covid the kiosk situation at VP seems worse than ever, culminating in a 25 minute wait over half time at the Wolves game to get served.
I'm taking my lad to the game later and I'm not up for another long wait so I'm planning to take drinks with us.
Does anyone know what the situation is at the turnstiles though with drinks? Obviously when you buy plastic bottles at the kiosks they keep the lids. Presumably they don't do the same at the turnstiles? I've checked the OS but the link to the ground regulations is dead!
I don't think they search kids do they? If not, put a couple in his coat pocket.
This is also how you get drugs out of Mexico.
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The bigger picture is the shocking state of of the catering services at Villa Park. My son used to be head of catering at the sty. He doesn't make it to many games but he came with me to a match pre-lockdown and the game was a sell out. He e-mailed the club with some ideas later that week but never received a reply. It appears that there's a total lack of awareness at the club about the piss poor state of match day catering.
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They're using a new agency this year, and it's noticeably shit everywhere, even in the corporate areas.
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They're using a new agency this year, and it's noticeably shit everywhere, even in the corporate areas.
Yeah but they've not had their best team available yet. They moved from 4 behind the bar to 3 to get more glass collectors in as that's all they had.
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Holte Suite service shocking last couple of games
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I take a bottle of squash for my daughter every game in a back pack. Every game the bag is checked. Never have I been pulled up on it. You’ll be fine taking a drink.
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I've never even entertained the idea of using half time catering. I'm in the DE Upper and it's normally packed in the concourse.
When I used to take little ones I'd stock up with things in a ruck sack.
Having said that there is such a rush of people at once that it's always going to be tough for that amount of time.
Bit like in the Bartons Arms between 1 and 2 o'clock.
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I take a bottle of squash for my daughter every game in a back pack. Every game the bag is checked. Never have I been pulled up on it. You’ll be fine taking a drink.
Good man. That's the sort of quality advice I expect from the good folk of H&V.
I'll go with squash in the backpack. I bet a flask of coffee for me might be a stretch too far for security though...
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They're using a new agency this year, and it's noticeably shit everywhere, even in the corporate areas.
It's an absolute shambles.
There are noticeably fewer staff behind the counter which I'd put down to covid but maybe not if the agency has changed.
What hasn't changed is the snail pace of the people that are there.
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Take in cartons and you'll definitely be fine. If you want to take in bottles, carry them in and hide the lids in your pocket while you go through security checks.
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They're using a new agency this year, and it's noticeably shit everywhere, even in the corporate areas.
It's an absolute shambles.
There are noticeably fewer staff behind the counter which I'd put down to covid but maybe not if the agency has changed.
What hasn't changed is the snail pace of the people that are there.
That's so true. I was in the Holte for the Wolves game. They were selling beer in cans so they had to pour every one into a plastic glass. The girl doing the pouring seemed to take about 5 minutes for each one oblivious to the fact that there were huge queues of thirsty people who only have 15 minutes to get served and eat and drink. It's a pathetic system more in line with a non league club that gets few hundred people for a home game. I wonder if the club are aware of the state of the catering?
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I take a bottle of squash for my daughter every game in a back pack. Every game the bag is checked. Never have I been pulled up on it. You’ll be fine taking a drink.
Good man. That's the sort of quality advice I expect from the good folk of H&V.
I'll go with squash in the backpack. I bet a flask of coffee for me might be a stretch too far for security though...
TC and I always take a flask. Never had a problem
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Capri sun or similar packaged drinks
Your own sports bottle with an attached cap
The reason for the lids removed is so a weighty full bottle cannot be thrown. It is assumed people would not tend to throw thier own receptacles.
Hope this helps
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Ridiculous that supporters can't be trusted not to throw bottles. Club can spot a bottle lid from fifty paces but never spot 200 Man U fans invading the pitch.
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And a thermos flask is safer than an 8 year old with a bottle of pop.
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Surely the biggest deterrent to the lobbing of bottles these days is the paying of nine times RRP for one that you've had to stand in a queue for half an hour to get in the first place.
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Ridiculous that supporters can't be trusted not to throw bottles. Club can spot a bottle lid from fifty paces but never spot 200 Man U fans invading the pitch.
It's the same mentality that stops "potentially controversial" replays being shown on the big screens. 42,000 people get treated like morons because one pissed up dickhead might act like one.
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Ridiculous that supporters can't be trusted not to throw bottles. Club can spot a bottle lid from fifty paces but never spot 200 Man U fans invading the pitch.
Isn't the bottle lid stuff at events more to do with a bottle on the floor with a lid on is much more of a safety hazard as it won't just crush under your foot like a bottle without a lid. That's what I've always thought was the issue rather than them being used as missiles. If you want a good missile then go with an amputee who has spares.
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They're using a new agency this year, and it's noticeably shit everywhere, even in the corporate areas.
Ah. The old put it out to tender and give it to the cheapest, option. They must be Tories.
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Ridiculous that supporters can't be trusted not to throw bottles. Club can spot a bottle lid from fifty paces but never spot 200 Man U fans invading the pitch.
Isn't the bottle lid stuff at events more to do with a bottle on the floor with a lid on is much more of a safety hazard as it won't just crush under your foot like a bottle without a lid. That's what I've always thought was the issue rather than them being used as missiles. If want a good missile then go with an amputee who has spares.
Yes as well as them being used as a cosh. When I was in arena security it was argued you could throw a bottle like a German ww2 grenade but not a plastic pint glass. Believe me you can throw a plastic glass a long way. Like the lidless bottles, said cups break underfoot meaning less hazard if they get dropped on the floor.
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They're using a new agency this year, and it's noticeably shit everywhere, even in the corporate areas.
Yeah but they've not had their best team available yet. They moved from 4 behind the bar to 3 to get more glass collectors in as that's all they had.
They need to work on the press.
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Hope ye managed to get the drinks in
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Hope ye managed to get the drinks in
He'll have fucking needed them.
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Hope ye managed to get the drinks in
I did, which was about the only positive to take from this evening!
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cant have a bottle with a lid on yet someone took in a whole cabbage once
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cant have a bottle with a lid on yet someone took in a whole cabbage once
LOL
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Mate who sits next to me had his bottle of fanta kicked over twice before kick off, he lost two thirds of it, which sploshed around my feet all game. To add insult to his injury, the second spillage was caused by someone bringing their pint to their seat. Happy days!
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Put it in a condom and swallow it.
My lad's only little but I'm not sure he'll fit in a condom. Even one of mine...
Very good.
Oh, and I'd just take a rucksack with a kids drinking bottle in it, buried in the middle somewhere wrapped in a coat, you'll be fine.
Obviously I wouldn't dream of doing this ... but I've, erm, heard that when people go to cricket, an effective tactic is to shove a couple of 'decoy' tins in the top of the rucksack, then a coat or something underneath them, and then beneath that the actual stash of booze. Decoys get confiscated, the rest's untouched.
Also, dunno if this is still possible but we used to take a flask of hot chocolate in to the ground - they were fine with that.
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The catering this season is an absolute disgrace. One thing that used to cheer me up when we were as bad as now was a decent pie,chips and curry sauce. You need to leave your seat on 25 mins to secure a substandard portion now.
A lot of fans were getting irate yesterday and walking away. Must be losing thousands each game
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They'll never get this catering malarkey sorted at VP. Every single time you try and get stuff, it seems as if the person serving you (if you are lucky) is doing their first ever shift, which is probably true. I've given up buying stuff in the ground, waste of time and money.
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I spoke to a steward recently. A flask is fine, so it a sports bottle. Even a lucozade (or similar) bottle with a 'sports bottle' type top is absolutely fine.
If you want a normal soft drink bottle just take a spare cap in your pocket.
I suspect the treading on them thing is probably the reason.
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Hip flask is the way forward, and the way we are playing, it's essential.
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Hip flask is the way forward, and the way we are playing, it's essential.
Few years ago around Christmas I had a Hip Flask taken off me by a head Steward in the lower Witton lane. He told me I could have it back at the end of the game , which he did , minus the single malt that was in it ! I'm convinced he had it in his coffee . I can't complain as I knew it contraband.
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Put it in a condom and swallow it.
My lad's only little but I'm not sure he'll fit in a condom. Even one of mine...
Very good.
Oh, and I'd just take a rucksack with a kids drinking bottle in it, buried in the middle somewhere wrapped in a coat, you'll be fine.
Obviously I wouldn't dream of doing this ... but I've, erm, heard that when people go to cricket, an effective tactic is to shove a couple of 'decoy' tins in the top of the rucksack, then a coat or something underneath them, and then beneath that the actual stash of booze. Decoys get confiscated, the rest's untouched.
Also, dunno if this is still possible but we used to take a flask of hot chocolate in to the ground - they were fine with that.
At the turnstile a steward asked to "look in my bag", which he did, literally. I could've had absolutely anything in there as long as it wasn't on show!!!
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I spoke to a steward recently. A flask is fine, so it a sports bottle. Even a lucozade (or similar) bottle with a 'sports bottle' type top is absolutely fine.
If you want a normal soft drink bottle just take a spare cap in your pocket.
I suspect the treading on them thing is probably the reason.
Would this include the metal kind of flask?
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I spoke to a steward recently. A flask is fine, so it a sports bottle. Even a lucozade (or similar) bottle with a 'sports bottle' type top is absolutely fine.
If you want a normal soft drink bottle just take a spare cap in your pocket.
I suspect the treading on them thing is probably the reason.
Would this include the metal kind of flask?
Pretty sure that would be fine.
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Put it in a condom and swallow it.
My lad's only little but I'm not sure he'll fit in a condom. Even one of mine...
Very good.
Oh, and I'd just take a rucksack with a kids drinking bottle in it, buried in the middle somewhere wrapped in a coat, you'll be fine.
Obviously I wouldn't dream of doing this ... but I've, erm, heard that when people go to cricket, an effective tactic is to shove a couple of 'decoy' tins in the top of the rucksack, then a coat or something underneath them, and then beneath that the actual stash of booze. Decoys get confiscated, the rest's untouched.
Also, dunno if this is still possible but we used to take a flask of hot chocolate in to the ground - they were fine with that.
Best I saw was at Edgbaston for a one day international, chap in front went through with a tube of Pringles open with Pringles available to eat, the seal was open. Sat next to me and produced bottle of vodka from under the only three Pringles in the tube!
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I've just been trying to find audio of the call to Danny Baker from a chef who carried his knives into a ground
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I always take spare lids in my coat pocket for my lads cokes that we purchase on route.
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I've just been trying to find audio of the call to Danny Baker from a chef who carried his knives into a ground
The best one on that was some Scottish non league punter being told he couldn’t take some
Nonsensical thing into the ground by the turnstile operator when he waved through a bloke behind him who was carrying a rifle as the local gun club was behind the away stand.
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They'll never get this catering malarkey sorted at VP. Every single time you try and get stuff, it seems as if the person serving you (if you are lucky) is doing their first ever shift, which is probably true. I've given up buying stuff in the ground, waste of time and money.
At half time yesterday I asked for 2 pints of lager and 2 ciders. The girl behind the bar just looked at me completely baffled. I looked at the board and said ‘We’ll have the strongbow dark fruits cider’.
‘That’s OK....’ she said ‘....But what is lager?’
Of course I helped her out & explained what was what from the board, but I am still marvelling at the fact that she managed to get over 2 hours into a bar shift without knowing what lager was!
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Can't even take chips in at Man City's new ground
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It was the like the searches that appeared after the cabbage incident and then re-appeared last year. Pointless, either do them properly or dont bother. A tap in the side of the arm does’t really indicate a thorough search.
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Can't even take chips in at Man City's new ground
It won't be long before you can't take food into a Premier League ground. One of them will come up with a spurious safety reason and before long they'll all introduce it.
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They'll never get this catering malarkey sorted at VP. Every single time you try and get stuff, it seems as if the person serving you (if you are lucky) is doing their first ever shift, which is probably true. I've given up buying stuff in the ground, waste of time and money.
At half time yesterday I asked for 2 pints of lager and 2 ciders. The girl behind the bar just looked at me completely baffled. I looked at the board and said ‘We’ll have the strongbow dark fruits cider’.
‘That’s OK....’ she said ‘....But what is lager?’
Of course I helped her out & explained what was what from the board, but I am still marvelling at the fact that she managed to get over 2 hours into a bar shift without knowing what lager was!
.I remember going to the Ramblin Man festival (RIP) a couple of years ago and watching a student after his 5 minutes of training, pour me 3 pints of Trooper.
The attempts at pouring were passable but he didn't know what £5.10 x 3 was so I had to tell him!
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They'll never get this catering malarkey sorted at VP. Every single time you try and get stuff, it seems as if the person serving you (if you are lucky) is doing their first ever shift, which is probably true. I've given up buying stuff in the ground, waste of time and money.
At half time yesterday I asked for 2 pints of lager and 2 ciders. The girl behind the bar just looked at me completely baffled. I looked at the board and said ‘We’ll have the strongbow dark fruits cider’.
‘That’s OK....’ she said ‘....But what is lager?’
Of course I helped her out & explained what was what from the board, but I am still marvelling at the fact that she managed to get over 2 hours into a bar shift without knowing what lager was!
.I remember going to the Ramblin Man festival (RIP) a couple of years ago and watching a student after his 5 minutes of training, pour me 3 pints of Trooper.
The attempts at pouring were passable but he didn't know what £5.10 x 3 was so I had to tell him!
Was it £2.70?