Post by: Toronto Villa on August 21, 2021, 07:04:41 PM
I’ll go 3-0 - goals from Buendia, JPB and Ings
Post by: Demitri_C on August 21, 2021, 07:24:52 PM
We need to play a decent side to give players a chance to have game time and get fit. Would rest SJM, Mings, Martinez, Ash and Cash. Bring in Targett, Freddie, Axel, Sanson or Bailey if available. Play the kids also.
I’ll go 3-0 - goals from Buendia, JPB and Ings
I would definitely have a few stronger players on the bench just in case as a defeat would be a absolute disaster and a huge embarrassment
Post by: LukeJames on August 21, 2021, 07:45:53 PM
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 22, 2021, 02:07:23 PM
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 22, 2021, 02:43:43 PM
Steer
Guilbert
Tuanzebe
Hause
Targett
Carney Chukwuemeka
Hourihane (c)
Philogene-Bidace
Buendia
Bailey (if fit, otherwise maybe Aaron Ramsey)
Wesley
Edit: forgot about Guilbert.
Post by: Three Spires Villa on August 22, 2021, 02:57:09 PM
Buendia doesn't look match fit yet, to me. I'd be tempted to start him and sub him after an hour or so.
Steer
Tuanzebe
Konsa (c)
Hause
Targett
Carney Chukwuemeka
Hourihane
Philogene-Bidace
Buendia
Bailey (if fit, otherwise maybe Aaron Ramsey)
Wesley
Yes, quite like that team, 4-1 win
Post by: Legion on August 22, 2021, 03:55:02 PM
Post by: ventnorVillain on August 22, 2021, 05:00:55 PM
Post by: OCD on August 22, 2021, 06:28:45 PM
There will be a few of the U23s involved.
Probably why some of them haven't gone out on loan yet. I would have Ramsey (A), Archer and Bogarde involved in the squad. I would go with -
Steer
Tuanzebe
Bogarde
Hause
Targett
Chukwuemeka (the younger)
Ramsey (the younger)
Philogene-Bidace
Buendia
Archer
Wesley
Take Buendia off after an hour.
Post by: supertom on August 22, 2021, 06:35:12 PM
Job done.
Post by: SaddVillan on August 22, 2021, 06:55:16 PM
There will be a few of the U23s involved.
I did wonder if Cam Archer had played away at Barrow when he was at Solihull Moors - he didn't befire anyone else looks it up.
Had he done so then he could have given the squad the heads up on the ground, facilities dressing rooms and style of play at Holker Street - it's going to be a real shock to some of our players.
Fully expect Barrow to try and unsettle our younger players.
Probably why some of them haven't gone out on loan yet. I would have Ramsey (A), Archer and Bogarde involved in the squad. I would go with -
Steer
Tuanzebe
Bogarde
Hause
Targett
Chukwuemeka (the younger)
Ramsey (the younger)
Philogene-Bidace
Buendia
Archer
Wesley
Take Buendia off after an hour.
Post by: Border villan on August 22, 2021, 08:51:27 PM
I'd like to confuse the commentators. Play both Chukwuemekas and both Ramseys. Sadly we let Brad Young out on loan, as I'd have put him and Ash in the side too. Resign Luke and Stefan on a one game contract too. Bring back Louie Barry, resign Gareth Barry.
Job done.
There are 3 Ramsey brothers, plus all the above with Mings and Ings on the bench.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 22, 2021, 09:15:36 PM
I'd like to confuse the commentators. Play both Chukwuemekas and both Ramseys. Sadly we let Brad Young out on loan, as I'd have put him and Ash in the side too. Resign Luke and Stefan on a one game contract too. Bring back Louie Barry, resign Gareth Barry.
Job done.
There are 3 Ramsey brothers, plus all the above with Mings and Ings on the bench.
Lets also resign Andy Gray x 2, Allan Evans and Alun Evans.
Post by: Border villan on August 22, 2021, 10:01:14 PM
Post by: Legion on August 22, 2021, 10:02:07 PM
Post by: Steve67 on August 22, 2021, 10:32:34 PM
Post by: VinnieChase84 on August 22, 2021, 10:54:16 PM
Guilbert Axel Hause Targett
A Ramsey, Nakamba, Chuk
Buendia Wesley Bidance
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 22, 2021, 10:56:28 PM
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 22, 2021, 10:57:05 PM
Post by: Legion on August 22, 2021, 11:01:16 PM
Is that a guess or ITK?
I'll find out tomorrow.
Post by: tomd2103 on August 23, 2021, 01:27:18 AM
Pick a strong side, get minutes in the legs and take the competition seriously. It’s about time we rightfully reclaimed the League Cup.
Yep. Want to see us have a good crack at both cup competitions this season.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 23, 2021, 07:12:43 AM
Riochs and Littles.
The new niche fanzine site to rival Heroes and Villains.
Post by: Smithy on August 23, 2021, 08:32:08 AM
Dean has said some of the players are still 'undercooked', so I want every single one of those players starting.
Post by: darren woolley on August 23, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 23, 2021, 12:58:31 PM
As been said - it would go somewhere to making up for the crappy pre season (no blame to Villa of this)
Steer (as we know what Emi can do)
Targett (Needs fitness)
Axel
Hause
Guilbert
Nakamba
Buendia (Needs fitness)
Chuck
Sanson (Surely he is ready for some game time)
JPB
Wesley
Hopefully on Bench
Sinisalo
Bogarde
Bailey (needs more minutes)
McGinn
Ramsey x 2
Archer (although they may not want him cup tied if they have loan plans for him)
Get 2 or 3 up (and thats not being arrogant we really should make short work of this) then bring the first teamers off
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 23, 2021, 01:01:09 PM
Post by: chrisw1 on August 23, 2021, 01:07:31 PM
Steer
Tuanzebe Konsa Hause Targett
Chukwuemeka Luiz Ramsey (J)
Buendia Ings JPB
If we're doing well I'd want to give Wes 30 mins at least.
Much as I'd like to see a last game for Hourihane, I'd take sentimentality out of it and give minutes to current and future players not departing ones.
Post by: Clampy on August 23, 2021, 01:33:45 PM
I think he'll mix it up a bit and throw in the likes of Chucky, JPB, Tuanzebe etc and give game time to those that need it most.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 23, 2021, 03:38:05 PM
Post by: Risso on August 23, 2021, 03:47:14 PM
As it's a Tuesday game there's plenty of rest before Brentford and then a big break after. I'd be playing a strong team as a lot of them still need minutes. But no way would I be risking Bailey if he had a muscle tweak and Cash may need treatment on his ankle. I'd prob rest Luiz or just give him 50-60 mins if the medical team think he's revovered ok and the gametime would be good for him.
Steer
Tuanzebe Konsa Hause Targett
Chukwuemeka Luiz Ramsey (J)
Buendia Ings JPB
If we're doing well I'd want to give Wes 30 mins at least.
Much as I'd like to see a last game for Hourihane, I'd take sentimentality out of it and give minutes to current and future players not departing ones.
I'd go with that, but stick Tuanzebe in the centre and Guilbert at right back.
Post by: eamonn on August 23, 2021, 03:52:01 PM
Post by: brian green on August 23, 2021, 04:00:38 PM
Post by: chrisw1 on August 23, 2021, 04:01:28 PM
Maybe, but I think we'll let Guilbert go and if that's the intention I'd prob let Konsa have the minutes. If the plan is to keep him then yes, I'd definitely like to see him play.As it's a Tuesday game there's plenty of rest before Brentford and then a big break after. I'd be playing a strong team as a lot of them still need minutes. But no way would I be risking Bailey if he had a muscle tweak and Cash may need treatment on his ankle. I'd prob rest Luiz or just give him 50-60 mins if the medical team think he's revovered ok and the gametime would be good for him.
Steer
Tuanzebe Konsa Hause Targett
Chukwuemeka Luiz Ramsey (J)
Buendia Ings JPB
If we're doing well I'd want to give Wes 30 mins at least.
Much as I'd like to see a last game for Hourihane, I'd take sentimentality out of it and give minutes to current and future players not departing ones.
I'd go with that, but stick Tuanzebe in the centre and Guilbert at right back.
Sounds like Buendia is in the Argentina squad and given they may have 3 games during the break I'd probably think about reducing his minutes on Tues.
Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 23, 2021, 04:08:30 PM
Post by: eamonn on August 23, 2021, 04:38:46 PM
There are a lot of South American fans around the Elephant. Standing room only when there is a Colombian game on. Maybe Emi is the big draw
Good point. The old shopping centre was full of little independent shops run by Latin Americans. I'm not sure if the redevelopment of the area (including shopping centre) and the pandemic has screwed them.
Post by: Damo70 on August 23, 2021, 05:03:12 PM
The Villa pub in Elephant & Castle are showing it.
It is on SKY channel 401 isn't it?
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 23, 2021, 06:18:40 PM
As it's a Tuesday game there's plenty of rest before Brentford and then a big break after. I'd be playing a strong team as a lot of them still need minutes. But no way would I be risking Bailey if he had a muscle tweak and Cash may need treatment on his ankle. I'd prob rest Luiz or just give him 50-60 mins if the medical team think he's revovered ok and the gametime would be good for him.
Steer
Tuanzebe Konsa Hause Targett
Chukwuemeka Luiz Ramsey (J)
Buendia Ings JPB
If we're doing well I'd want to give Wes 30 mins at least.
Much as I'd like to see a last game for Hourihane, I'd take sentimentality out of it and give minutes to current and future players not departing ones.
I'd go with that, but stick Tuanzebe in the centre and Guilbert at right back.
Pretty much agree with this, apart from Luiz who has had so much football, he may be tempted to keep McGinn in.
Post by: VinnieChase84 on August 23, 2021, 06:22:44 PM
Is that a guess or ITK?
I'll find out tomorrow.
Just my own thoughts mate
Post by: Legion on August 23, 2021, 06:44:21 PM
Post by: Demitri_C on August 23, 2021, 07:01:37 PM
I think there will be a mix of 1st team, fringe players and U23s.
Yep and i think ings will be on the bench as insurance
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 23, 2021, 07:14:30 PM
Assume players like Steer, Hause and Wes will get a look in and Targett for minutes. Maybe even the Lesser Spotted Sanson.
Post by: ldavfc4eva on August 23, 2021, 07:47:38 PM
Targett
Hause
Tuanzebe
Guilbert
Nakamba
Chucks
Hourihane
Buendia
Wesley
Phil B
Post by: sid1964 on August 24, 2021, 07:43:36 AM
Villa to win 3-0
Post by: algy on August 24, 2021, 09:36:08 AM
Targett
Hause
Tuanzebe
Guilbert
Chukwuemeka, C
Nakamba
Sanson (if fit), otherwise one of the young 'uns - Ramsey, A?
Bailey (if fit), otherwise Buendia
Wesley
JPB
Hopefully should be enough to see them off. Make sure we've got a pretty strong bench, though. Really think we should be taking a proper shot at both cups this season.
Post by: Nev on August 24, 2021, 09:38:45 AM
Post by: RichardBatchelor on August 24, 2021, 10:00:57 AM
Please don't take it lightly, this above all seasons recently, I'd like us to win a cup.
Indeed. I'd love it if we won both domestic cups (presumably alongside a mid-table finish as we're not going any higher) while seeing Man City as runners-up in both the league and Champions league and winning jack - pun initially unintended. That would be nice.
Post by: Damo70 on August 24, 2021, 10:02:17 AM
The Young Ones Rik - "Honestly I don't know why I bother sometimes".
The Young Ones Vyvyan - "I don't know why you bother ever"!
Post by: john e on August 24, 2021, 10:11:12 AM
25 years without a major trophy is just ridiculous
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 24, 2021, 10:11:42 AM
Post by: Ads on August 24, 2021, 10:12:47 AM
Steer
Targett
Hause
Tuanzebe
Guilbert
Nkamba
Hourihane
Chuck
Buendia
Wesley
Bidace
Post by: AV82EC on August 24, 2021, 10:13:26 AM
Post by: PGW on August 24, 2021, 12:00:26 PM
Am already counting down the minutes to when I have to leave. Driving up so going to be a late night but can’t wait.
I'm on coach from VP and that's not leaving till 14:45......seems too late to me that does.
Post by: Drummond on August 24, 2021, 12:09:32 PM
Am already counting down the minutes to when I have to leave. Driving up so going to be a late night but can’t wait.
I'm on coach from VP and that's not leaving till 14:45......seems too late to me that does.
Google says about 4 hours in a car.... So yes, that's tight! I'd double check it's not going at 12.45
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 24, 2021, 12:14:15 PM
Post by: BC54 VFC on August 24, 2021, 12:16:45 PM
Post by: Bad English on August 24, 2021, 12:46:50 PM
Please don't take it lightly, this above all seasons recently, I'd like us to win a cup.To be fair, I remember being at Wembley in 2020 and seeing us lose to 1-2 to Citeh.
Post by: placeforparks on August 24, 2021, 01:06:06 PM
There are a lot of South American fans around the Elephant. Standing room only when there is a Colombian game on. Maybe Emi is the big draw
Good point. The old shopping centre was full of little independent shops run by Latin Americans. I'm not sure if the redevelopment of the area (including shopping centre) and the pandemic has screwed them.
completely off-topic but it's mainly the former, have a look at https://latinelephant.org/ if you want more info.
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 24, 2021, 01:18:13 PM
There are a lot of South American fans around the Elephant. Standing room only when there is a Colombian game on. Maybe Emi is the big draw
Good point. The old shopping centre was full of little independent shops run by Latin Americans. I'm not sure if the redevelopment of the area (including shopping centre) and the pandemic has screwed them.
completely off-topic but it's mainly the former, have a look at https://latinelephant.org/ if you want more info.
My first job in London 'on the tools' was at that shopping centre. We converted the top floor from what I believe was previously council offices into a Gala Bingo hall.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 01:48:43 PM
Post by: LeeB on August 24, 2021, 02:06:26 PM
Please villa dont get humilated. Need a win thats comfortable
We don't really though, do we? It's a cup game, just a win will do with some game time for da yoof.
Post by: Legion on August 24, 2021, 02:10:08 PM
Post by: CT on August 24, 2021, 02:13:31 PM
This is the standard “no win” situation for us. Everyone laughs at us if we lose, no credit at all if we win.
We just need a good run out, a win, and get out.
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 24, 2021, 02:30:41 PM
Post by: SaddVillan on August 24, 2021, 02:40:58 PM
"Underneath the waves in a grey deadly killing machine"
Wonder if his "home" had been built in Barrow?
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 03:40:20 PM
We’re not going to be “humiliated” for crying out loud.
This is the standard “no win” situation for us. Everyone laughs at us if we lose, no credit at all if we win.
We just need a good run out, a win, and get out.
Any loss in any capacity to barrow is humilation. You cant try dismiss that we wont lose but it sometimes happens.
Obviously its unlikely and we should win easily but shocks do happen
Post by: rob_bridge on August 24, 2021, 03:41:38 PM
I'd like to see a repeat of the Crewe game from two years ago.
That is exactly what the doctor is ordering. Barrow apparently play expansive game too
Post by: Legion on August 24, 2021, 03:42:22 PM
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 04:02:06 PM
Humiliation was the relegation season.
Exactly the teams alot better this year so thats why its worse if we lose tonight. Lets hope we win with ease.
I really hope big wes starts and gets a goal to boost his confidence
Post by: sickbeggar on August 24, 2021, 04:28:18 PM
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 24, 2021, 04:50:27 PM
We’re not going to be “humiliated” for crying out loud.
This is the standard “no win” situation for us. Everyone laughs at us if we lose, no credit at all if we win.
We just need a good run out, a win, and get out.
Any loss in any capacity to barrow is humilation. You cant try dismiss that we wont lose but it sometimes happens.
Obviously its unlikely and we should win easily but shocks do happen
Post by: john e on August 24, 2021, 05:31:08 PM
And it’s the same for every club in the Premier League
Fans want to win trophies, managers and management teams aren’t that bothered
They would take a higher league position than a trophy as is proved When the team sheets are read out
Most teams fuck about in the early stages and then if they’re lucky enough to get through like we were a couple years ago they start taking it seriously in the semi-final stage
Whatever team we put out tonight we should be good enough to beat Barrow ffs
Just get through I’m not bothered if we make heavy weather of it or if the performance is not spot-on couldn’t care less just get a win progress to the next round
If we lose they all need turfing out first thing next morning
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 06:16:07 PM
We’re not going to be “humiliated” for crying out loud.
This is the standard “no win” situation for us. Everyone laughs at us if we lose, no credit at all if we win.
We just need a good run out, a win, and get out.
Any loss in any capacity to barrow is humilation. You cant try dismiss that we wont lose but it sometimes happens.
Obviously its unlikely and we should win easily but shocks do happen
10-1 villa win better ? 😉
Post by: Clampy on August 24, 2021, 06:28:01 PM
Am already counting down the minutes to when I have to leave. Driving up so going to be a late night but can’t wait.
I'm on coach from VP and that's not leaving till 14:45......seems too late to me that does.
It does a bit.
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 24, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
The biggest disconnect between fans and club is the cup games
And it’s the same for every club in the Premier League
Fans want to win trophies, managers and management teams aren’t that bothered
They would take a higher league position than a trophy as is proved When the team sheets are read out
Most teams fuck about in the early stages and then if they’re lucky enough to get through like we were a couple years ago they start taking it seriously in the semi-final stage
Whatever team we put out tonight we should be good enough to beat Barrow ffs
Just get through I’m not bothered if we make heavy weather of it or if the performance is not spot-on couldn’t care less just get a win progress to the next round
If we lose they all need turfing out first thing next morning
Fans aren't that fussed about the League Cup these days. We like to pretend we're different but in reality we're the same as everyone else and you only have to look at the gates we get for proof. If we lose tonight it'll be forgotten by Saturday.
Post by: simboy on August 24, 2021, 06:33:47 PM
The biggest disconnect between fans and club is the cup games
And it’s the same for every club in the Premier League
Fans want to win trophies, managers and management teams aren’t that bothered
They would take a higher league position than a trophy as is proved When the team sheets are read out
Most teams fuck about in the early stages and then if they’re lucky enough to get through like we were a couple years ago they start taking it seriously in the semi-final stage
Whatever team we put out tonight we should be good enough to beat Barrow ffs
Just get through I’m not bothered if we make heavy weather of it or if the performance is not spot-on couldn’t care less just get a win progress to the next round
If we lose they all need turfing out first thing next morning
Fans aren't that fussed about the League Cup these days. We like to pretend we're different but in reality we're the same as everyone else and you only have to look at the gates we get for proof. If we lose tonight it'll be forgotten by Saturday.
At this stage you’re right. However, get to the quarter finals and I think it gets a more important competition to most
Post by: Chris Smith on August 24, 2021, 06:40:38 PM
Post by: manic-road on August 24, 2021, 06:47:34 PM
Post by: Legion on August 24, 2021, 06:47:55 PM
Post by: berneboy on August 24, 2021, 06:48:27 PM
Post by: Ads on August 24, 2021, 06:48:30 PM
Reminds me of Grimsby away in the FA Cup in the 90s only less affluent.
Post by: UK Redsox on August 24, 2021, 06:48:57 PM
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 06:51:54 PM
Post by: rougegorge on August 24, 2021, 06:55:57 PM
I think so. Realistically it's a competition we could win even if Man City have a recent monopoly. As a club, we have to be looking to win things, rather than shrugging our shoulders. Also it's a way into Europe even if nowadays it's the Conference one.The biggest disconnect between fans and club is the cup games
And it’s the same for every club in the Premier League
Fans want to win trophies, managers and management teams aren’t that bothered
They would take a higher league position than a trophy as is proved When the team sheets are read out
Most teams fuck about in the early stages and then if they’re lucky enough to get through like we were a couple years ago they start taking it seriously in the semi-final stage
Whatever team we put out tonight we should be good enough to beat Barrow ffs
Just get through I’m not bothered if we make heavy weather of it or if the performance is not spot-on couldn’t care less just get a win progress to the next round
If we lose they all need turfing out first thing next morning
Fans aren't that fussed about the League Cup these days. We like to pretend we're different but in reality we're the same as everyone else and you only have to look at the gates we get for proof. If we lose tonight it'll be forgotten by Saturday.
At this stage you’re right. However, get to the quarter finals and I think it gets a more important competition to most
Post by: Legion on August 24, 2021, 07:06:53 PM
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 07:10:09 PM
As happy as I am for Cam I'm surprised not to see Wes or Davis available.
Wes must have a injury. Davis is injured
Post by: Mister E on August 24, 2021, 08:20:39 PM
or Wes is on the way out of B6As happy as I am for Cam I'm surprised not to see Wes or Davis available.
Wes must have a injury. Davis is injured
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 24, 2021, 08:40:11 PM
As happy as I am for Cam I'm surprised not to see Wes or Davis available.
Wes would have been in a punch up by now and sent off.
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 24, 2021, 08:43:51 PM
I think so. Realistically it's a competition we could win even if Man City have a recent monopoly. As a club, we have to be looking to win things, rather than shrugging our shoulders. Also it's a way into Europe even if nowadays it's the Conference one.The biggest disconnect between fans and club is the cup games
And it’s the same for every club in the Premier League
Fans want to win trophies, managers and management teams aren’t that bothered
They would take a higher league position than a trophy as is proved When the team sheets are read out
Most teams fuck about in the early stages and then if they’re lucky enough to get through like we were a couple years ago they start taking it seriously in the semi-final stage
Whatever team we put out tonight we should be good enough to beat Barrow ffs
Just get through I’m not bothered if we make heavy weather of it or if the performance is not spot-on couldn’t care less just get a win progress to the next round
If we lose they all need turfing out first thing next morning
Fans aren't that fussed about the League Cup these days. We like to pretend we're different but in reality we're the same as everyone else and you only have to look at the gates we get for proof. If we lose tonight it'll be forgotten by Saturday.
At this stage you’re right. However, get to the quarter finals and I think it gets a more important competition to most
The last time we got to a semi-final a lot of posters on here were hoping we would lose as it was a distraction. That's how important it is.
Post by: john e on August 25, 2021, 09:05:43 AM
The biggest disconnect between fans and club is the cup games
And it’s the same for every club in the Premier League
Fans want to win trophies, managers and management teams aren’t that bothered
They would take a higher league position than a trophy as is proved When the team sheets are read out
Most teams fuck about in the early stages and then if they’re lucky enough to get through like we were a couple years ago they start taking it seriously in the semi-final stage
Whatever team we put out tonight we should be good enough to beat Barrow ffs
Just get through I’m not bothered if we make heavy weather of it or if the performance is not spot-on couldn’t care less just get a win progress to the next round
If we lose they all need turfing out first thing next morning
Fans aren't that fussed about the League Cup these days. We like to pretend we're different but in reality we're the same as everyone else and you only have to look at the gates we get for proof. If we lose tonight it'll be forgotten by Saturday.
Yep thinking about it you're right
it’s probably just me then
but I would want us to win something over league position as long as it wasn’t top four or bottom three were talking about
It’s different times now