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Title: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 19, 2021, 11:30:57 AM
God it is about time we beat these horrible people.  2-1 - Watkins and Jack off the bench.  Falco for them 87 minutes.  I changed the kick off time as I checked on a website carrying European time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: OCD on March 19, 2021, 12:04:32 PM
7.30pm.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 19, 2021, 12:11:31 PM
1-0 Saunders

Klinsmann to header Bozzies knee.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: LeeB on March 19, 2021, 12:15:49 PM
Even Bozzie had the decency to keep his boot down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: Dr Butler on March 19, 2021, 12:24:07 PM
Spurs nil please Villa.....

I would love it if we beat these...love it !

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 19, 2021, 12:32:39 PM
Thought we'd lose but Spurs been hilarious watch in last 7 days. Hopefully Son dosen't make a miracle comeback.

Will go for 2-2.

Last season our tactic of parking our defence on the halfway line and giving likes of Moura and Bergwijn 50 yards space to run into every time really was a dumb tactic so imagine we'll defend much deeper this season.

We have a poor record v Spurs in recent times but their confidence is at rock bottom again so really we shouldn't just be writing this off even if we haven't been great at all recently.

Eventually you have to get back onto the saddle so winning this would give us big boost for the final 10 games and we're always amazing in the Sunday evening slot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 19, 2021, 12:48:24 PM
Dont play Engels and we might have a chance.

1-0  Villa   -    Konsa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 19, 2021, 12:55:14 PM
Even Bozzie had the decency to keep his boot down.

Despite knocking him out and causing denture damage.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: eamonn on March 19, 2021, 01:46:28 PM
They really are horrible people.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 19, 2021, 02:14:20 PM
Half 8 kick off?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 20.30 I think
Post by: eamonn on March 19, 2021, 02:17:04 PM
Dont play Engels and we might have a chance.

1-0  Villa   -    Konsa

Poor Bjorn, he nearly helped win us the cup last year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: aj2k77 on March 19, 2021, 03:45:00 PM
Can't see us getting anything without a formation change and Grealish in the side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: wittonwarrior on March 19, 2021, 04:23:38 PM
So many factors  come to mind, but we rarely beat them so I would settle for a point just don't lose. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Legion on March 19, 2021, 04:34:01 PM
Us 0 Spurzzzz 2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 19, 2021, 04:43:55 PM
Their fans are somewhat disconsolate and are expecting a defeat. 100% to do with Zagreb rather than any fear of us though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 19, 2021, 05:06:20 PM
we're going to batter them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 19, 2021, 05:07:10 PM
Can’t see us scoring and teams that need a result often get the lift the need by playing Villa. 2-0 defeat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: clash city rocker on March 19, 2021, 05:08:09 PM
They are a cockney version of the dingles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 19, 2021, 05:30:54 PM
I've a moderate to high medium dislike of Chelsea.
I'm indifferent about Arsenal although lately they're just good comedy value.
Fulham are just a nice family club near Chelsea.
Palace I can take them or leave them.
West Ham I have a medium dislike of based purely on going there in the 70s & their owners.
Spurs can fuck right off though the north London shitters and their big eared Gary Lineker, lucky for Spurs when the year ends in 1 bollocks, Ozzies dream fuckers, Ricky Villa's goal, Gazzas tears, fuck the fucking fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: LeeB on March 19, 2021, 05:34:02 PM
It's Sunday evening, so I expect a barnstorming performance and a 5-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Nev on March 19, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
Ain't got a fucking clue.

3-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 19, 2021, 05:38:57 PM
You missed out Mike Dean goal celebrating chunt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 19, 2021, 05:41:52 PM
I've a moderate to high medium dislike of Chelsea.
I'm indifferent about Arsenal although lately they're just good comedy value.
Fulham are just a nice family club near Chelsea.
Palace I can take them or leave them.
West Ham I have a medium dislike of based purely on going there in the 70s & their owners.
Spurs can fuck right off though the north London shitters and their big eared Gary Lineker, lucky for Spurs when the year ends in 1 bollocks, Ozzies dream fuckers, Ricky Villa's goal, Gazzas tears, fuck the fucking fuckers.

Similar for me. Hate Spurs, West Ham and Chelsea, don't mind any other London club. Soft spot for Brentford.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: rjp on March 19, 2021, 06:07:08 PM
I've a moderate to high medium dislike of Chelsea.
I'm indifferent about Arsenal although lately they're just good comedy value.
Fulham are just a nice family club near Chelsea.
Palace I can take them or leave them.
West Ham I have a medium dislike of based purely on going there in the 70s & their owners.
Spurs can fuck right off though the north London shitters and their big eared Gary Lineker, lucky for Spurs when the year ends in 1 bollocks, Ozzies dream fuckers, Ricky Villa's goal, Gazzas tears, fuck the fucking fuckers.

Hear hear.  They are the Birmingham City of North London.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 19, 2021, 06:44:09 PM
Hoddle, H*dge, Perryman, Archibald, Bale, Jenas, all ******.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: CT on March 19, 2021, 06:54:21 PM
I've a moderate to high medium dislike of Chelsea.
I'm indifferent about Arsenal although lately they're just good comedy value.
Fulham are just a nice family club near Chelsea.
Palace I can take them or leave them.
West Ham I have a medium dislike of based purely on going there in the 70s & their owners.
Spurs can fuck right off though the north London shitters and their big eared Gary Lineker, lucky for Spurs when the year ends in 1 bollocks, Ozzies dream fuckers, Ricky Villa's goal, Gazzas tears, fuck the fucking fuckers.


....and that fucking song where Ossie Ardilles gets to sing “in the cup for Tottingham”....

It’s Sunday night. They’re getting smashed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 19, 2021, 07:19:31 PM
Now then if ever you are even remotely tempted to do the ‘Tottenham are fantastic, their stadium is awesome, they are a model for us to follow’ mantra then just watch this as your treatment to get over such thoughts immediately.  The most offensive piece comes at 2:28.

https://youtu.be/gnYjI17lPso


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 19, 2021, 07:52:12 PM
Lets not forget Chas & Fucking Dave either, wash out yer gills and jellied eels are good for yer brain.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: darren woolley on March 19, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I reckon a 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Dr_Fegg on March 19, 2021, 08:17:38 PM
I've a moderate to high medium dislike of Chelsea.
I'm indifferent about Arsenal although lately they're just good comedy value.
Fulham are just a nice family club near Chelsea.
Palace I can take them or leave them.
West Ham I have a medium dislike of based purely on going there in the 70s & their owners.
Spurs can fuck right off though the north London shitters and their big eared Gary Lineker, lucky for Spurs when the year ends in 1 bollocks, Ozzies dream fuckers, Ricky Villa's goal, Gazzas tears, fuck the fucking fuckers.

This.

Detestable fans and a pointless club who think they're the dogs because they play in London. Millwall have more class.

And a special place in hell for Levy, how dare you try and kick us when were down you snidey fucker.

Win - dont care how, dont care if VAR overrule them and dont care if its a deflection just win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Skerra on March 19, 2021, 08:31:27 PM
I would love to go with my heart and say a win for us. However, judging from our recent form and, most likely still without Jack, I can’t see anything but a Spurs win. Like the positivity on here but, feel a bit like claret and blue glasses to me. Please, please Villa shove these words down my throat on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: eamonn on March 19, 2021, 09:45:06 PM
No Son, no chance ! We'll win 1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Allan C on March 19, 2021, 09:49:07 PM
1-1 for me  Grealish to get ours  the inevitable one by Kane for them 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 19, 2021, 10:07:53 PM
Hopefully Grealish starts.

If he does and Son is out, then I think we can win this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Nii Lamptey on March 19, 2021, 10:12:02 PM
Grealish still out and like it or not, on account of recent displays, we are a one man team (going forward at least).

We'll battle well as 'plucky underdogs' but Spurs will stink the place out with a standard 0-1 Mourinho win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 19, 2021, 10:14:52 PM
It’s annoying they had a terrible display last night. They’re bound to bloody react.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Skerra on March 19, 2021, 10:18:23 PM
Yes Nii, once again we are told today that although it’s not a long term injury, this game may have come too soon. Personally, I count any injury that’s over a month as a substantial injury. Short term to me means 1 week or 2 maximum.
Anyway, even if Jack is available, he will need at least a couple of matches to get back up to some sort of speed. Hopefully, he will be much fitter after the international break.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 19, 2021, 10:57:36 PM
As one of my erstwhile friends pointed out earlier if he doesn't start on Sunday, it will be nearly two months when the Fulham game comes around.  This when it was mooted he could start against Sheffield United. Short term injury my arse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Hillbilly on March 19, 2021, 11:48:38 PM
Lets not forget Chas & Fucking Dave either, wash out yer gills and jellied eels are good for yer brain.
I’m feeling contrary so I’ll defend Chas & Dave. Apart from the Spurs abomination and one or two of their more ‘Saturday night variety show’ efforts, their music is pretty genuine. And that’s them playing on the classic ‘I got the...’ by Labi Siffre, which tips the scales massively in their favour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Drummond on March 20, 2021, 07:47:12 AM
Barkley will get a goal and an assist I suspect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 20, 2021, 07:57:23 AM
If you look at the line up Spurs can put out against us it’s difficult to see how we are going to win without Jack.
We have to hope that they don’t like each other and have stopped playing for the manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Bad English on March 20, 2021, 08:22:26 AM
It'll have been nine days since our last game. I hope that our players won't be looking too knackered.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: TelfordVilla on March 20, 2021, 08:42:58 AM
Top player injured, another one suspended. Just lost the local derby. Dumped out of europe after taking a 2 goal lead away, having played extra time. Manager who is at war with the players. Players out on their feet. ....and still we are wetting the bed at the thought of playing them without Jack. Where has all the optimism gone. We are Aston Villa a match for all comers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Drummond on March 20, 2021, 08:47:04 AM
If you look at the line up Spurs can put out against us it’s difficult to see how we are going to win without Jack.
We have to hope that they don’t like each other and have stopped playing for the manager.

Depends on your attitude I guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: manic-road on March 20, 2021, 08:51:48 AM
I think this could be a 0-0 snooze fest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Ads on March 20, 2021, 09:00:00 AM
Spurs have been beyond diabolical for a few games now, after a decent run.

Absolutely wretched performances. They're here for the taking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Nii Lamptey on March 20, 2021, 09:37:40 AM
Spurs have been beyond diabolical for a few games now, after a decent run.

Absolutely wretched performances. They're here for the taking.

Which is why this has an 'abject Villa performance' written all over it..... Missed opportunity. Spurs are there for the taking and we'll no doubt fuck it up. Villa always seem to give teams on a bad run a helping hand.

Thought our form was poor prior to Jack's injury, especially his last 2 games, and it was a perfect opportunity for the rest of the squad to step up and prove we're not a one man team. Leeds game apart, we've been pretty abysmal to be honest. Defense isn't a concern (especially when Cash returns), but going forward, there is SUCH a lack of quality without Jack in there.

Hope I'm wrong, as we do have the advantage of this being fixtured during our Sunday night 'golden hour' slot. Whilst I'm feeling super pessimistic about this one, I would be on cloud nine to turn these arseholes over. Hate Spurs fans with a passion.

Just play well.... PLEASE Villa! UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 20, 2021, 10:41:21 AM
Spurs always felt like a really big game to me as a kid, when they used to roll up at VP with Hoddle etc. This has stayed with me and still feels like one of the big games of the season. I used to like them as a kid in the early 80s, sense prevailed as I got older and they are one of the clubs I have a real dislike for.
We have no form behind us, they did, but the wheels have come off the last week, they’ll either be a reaction for them or Mourhinio might be sacked.
Jack doesn’t look like he’s back, but he could be and if he says he can play, which Smith seems to be indicating is the key factor, it could give us a huge boost, like Derby two years ago.
An improbable 2-1 villa (Watkins 2).

And I like Chas and Dave...rabbit rabbit
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Ads on March 20, 2021, 11:24:21 AM
Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash

Dougie

McGinn
Sanson

Barkely

Watkins
Davis
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Risso on March 20, 2021, 11:47:07 AM
Spurs have been beyond diabolical for a few games now, after a decent run.

Absolutely wretched performances. They're here for the taking.

They've won 5 of their last 7 games, we've won 2 out of 7 and failed to beat Sheffield United and Newcastle. I think your confidence is misplaced.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Nev on March 20, 2021, 12:09:08 PM
Let's have less sniping about Chas and Dave, consummate and talented musicians as well as brilliant songwriters. Save your ire for wankers like Mumford and Sons.

Anyway, fuck Spurs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Ads on March 20, 2021, 12:38:31 PM
Spurs have been beyond diabolical for a few games now, after a decent run.

Absolutely wretched performances. They're here for the taking.

They've won 5 of their last 7 games, we've won 2 out of 7 and failed to beat Sheffield United and Newcastle. I think your confidence is misplaced.

They were diabolical against Arsenal and desperate mid week too. Doesn't matter what they did a few weeks ago, they're in bad form now, without Son, following a mid week European away game that went to extra time. I expect us to beat them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 20, 2021, 01:43:47 PM
If you look at the line up Spurs can put out against us it’s difficult to see how we are going to win without Jack.
We have to hope that they don’t like each other and have stopped playing for the manager.


Most of their players actually aren't that much better than what we've got. Would anyone seriously take Dier and Sanchez as CBs ahead of Konsa and Mings.

For all the stick we give El Ghazi he's scored 7 goals this season. Lucas Moura in about 15 more games has 9 goals for the season.

And likes of Sissoko and Hojiberg I find incredibly average midfield players. Certainly if we sign either of them I wouldn't be expecting us to break top 6 anytime soon.

That's over half the team of what will be playing tomorrow and it's largely been reflected in their results over last three months.

We will never be a top team again unless we shake off the feeling we can barely do anything in games Grealish dosen't play so that's something we simply have to improve on next season and winning v this sort of opposition without him would be a major boost.

Reading some of the posts above seems like we need a Paul e (how on earth can you predict us to lose to West Ham away) or John e rousing pre match pep talk (wink).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 20, 2021, 01:49:01 PM
Spurs have been beyond diabolical for a few games now, after a decent run.

Absolutely wretched performances. They're here for the taking.

They've won 5 of their last 7 games, we've won 2 out of 7 and failed to beat Sheffield United and Newcastle. I think your confidence is misplaced.

Since December 12th we've played 18 games and won 7 in the league, Spurs 17 and won 6 so form largely the same for half the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 20, 2021, 01:58:39 PM
This one smacks of the usual ‘good job you’re playing at Villa Park get your season back on track’ games to me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 20, 2021, 02:01:08 PM
Every fan thinks when a shit team or a team in poor form plays them that’s where it turns around.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Allan C on March 20, 2021, 02:20:30 PM
If you look at the line up Spurs can put out against us it’s difficult to see how we are going to win without Jack.
We have to hope that they don’t like each other and have stopped playing for the manager.


Most of their players actually aren't that much better than what we've got. Would anyone seriously take Dier and Sanchez as CBs ahead of Konsa and Mings.

For all the stick we give El Ghazi he's scored 7 goals this season. Lucas Moura in about 15 more games has 9 goals for the season.

And likes of Sissoko and Hojiberg I find incredibly average midfield players. Certainly if we sign either of them I wouldn't be expecting us to break top 6 anytime soon.

That's over half the team of what will be playing tomorrow and it's largely been reflected in their results over last three months.

We will never be a top team again unless we shake off the feeling we can barely do anything in games Grealish dosen't play so that's something we simply have to improve on next season and winning v this sort of opposition without him would be a major boost.

Reading some of the posts above seems like we need a Paul e (how on earth can you predict us to lose to West Ham away) or John e rousing pre match pep talk (wink).
All really good points
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Small Rodent on March 20, 2021, 07:23:41 PM
Lets not forget Chas & Fucking Dave either, wash out yer gills and jellied eels are good for yer brain.
I’m feeling contrary so I’ll defend Chas & Dave. Apart from the Spurs abomination and one or two of their more ‘Saturday night variety show’ efforts, their music is pretty genuine. And that’s them playing on the classic ‘I got the...’ by Labi Siffre, which tips the scales massively in their favour.

I love Chas Hodge’s 60s instrumental band The Outlaws
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: brontebilly on March 20, 2021, 07:32:13 PM
Spurs have been beyond diabolical for a few games now, after a decent run.

Absolutely wretched performances. They're here for the taking.

They've won 5 of their last 7 games, we've won 2 out of 7 and failed to beat Sheffield United and Newcastle. I think your confidence is misplaced.

They were diabolical against Arsenal and desperate mid week too. Doesn't matter what they did a few weeks ago, they're in bad form now, without Son, following a mid week European away game that went to extra time. I expect us to beat them.

Was a similar scenario when Leicester came to Villa Park. Dumped out of Europe on Thursday but ended up having a comfortable enough win at Villa Park on the Sunday. Spurs aren't great at all but without Jack we are below average I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 20, 2021, 07:36:28 PM
If you look at the line up Spurs can put out against us it’s difficult to see how we are going to win without Jack.
We have to hope that they don’t like each other and have stopped playing for the manager.


Most of their players actually aren't that much better than what we've got. Would anyone seriously take Dier and Sanchez as CBs ahead of Konsa and Mings.

For all the stick we give El Ghazi he's scored 7 goals this season. Lucas Moura in about 15 more games has 9 goals for the season.

And likes of Sissoko and Hojiberg I find incredibly average midfield players. Certainly if we sign either of them I wouldn't be expecting us to break top 6 anytime soon.

That's over half the team of what will be playing tomorrow and it's largely been reflected in their results over last three months.

We will never be a top team again unless we shake off the feeling we can barely do anything in games Grealish dosen't play so that's something we simply have to improve on next season and winning v this sort of opposition without him would be a major boost.

Reading some of the posts above seems like we need a Paul e (how on earth can you predict us to lose to West Ham away) or John e rousing pre match pep talk (wink).
They have Moura Bale Ali Ndombole Reguilon and Kane. We could not beat Newcastle without Their 3 best players.
So hardly a surprise to think that us without Jack ( 4 wins from 24) May struggle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Villa Lew on March 20, 2021, 08:19:02 PM
I started watching Spurs at VP in the early 60s, when they had Brown, Mackay, Blanchflower, Greaves, Smith and Jones, we used to get crowds in excess of 60k, there was a 5th round Cup tie at VP, when the attendance was nearly 70k. Just had a look at their fans forum and nobody seems to have a bad word against us, there as here it's almost the exact opposite, which I must admit I find a bit baffling.

Anyway going for, without any confidence, a Villa win, with Ollie getting the winner, hopefully with getting the England call up, he'll be really up for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Edvard Remberg on March 20, 2021, 08:22:30 PM
It's a late Sunday fixture,  we will win 5 -1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 20, 2021, 08:47:09 PM
One thing I did like them for was the comedy moment when they joined in the 'We want Lerner Out' chants against them in the relegation season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: robbo1874 on March 21, 2021, 10:30:56 AM
Not too optimistic about this one really. But we’ll see. I hate Spurs- got a mate here who supports them. Kind of like only mates cos we are both pommies come on Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Damo70 on March 21, 2021, 10:38:01 AM
I started watching Spurs at VP in the early 60s, when they had Brown, Mackay, Blanchflower, Greaves, Smith and Jones, we used to get crowds in excess of 60k, there was a 5th round Cup tie at VP, when the attendance was nearly 70k. Just had a look at their fans forum and nobody seems to have a bad word against us, there as here it's almost the exact opposite, which I must admit I find a bit baffling.

Anyway going for, without any confidence, a Villa win, with Ollie getting the winner, hopefully with getting the England call up, he'll be really up for it.

My first Villa game was a three nil defeat at home to Manure. My second Villa game a couple of weeks later was a 1-0 win against Spurs. Dennis Mortimer got the winning goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: robbo1874 on March 21, 2021, 10:40:19 AM
He’s called Al. I’ve got him in my phone as Alf Garnett- cos he’s a bit like that. Funny on his day. But those days are few and far between
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Damo70 on March 21, 2021, 10:42:05 AM
There is a lot of talent in the Spurs side but Mourinho and the players have had some stick for their poor showings in recent games. I am worried we might face the backlash from them today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: robbo1874 on March 21, 2021, 10:47:42 AM
As I remember Villa always used to beat Spurs
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: robbo1874 on March 21, 2021, 10:51:16 AM
2-0 come on Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 21, 2021, 10:53:28 AM
Not beaten Spuds since 2015 and before that 2008 when we did the double over them. (Yes I know we spent a few seasons in the Championship)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: robbo1874 on March 21, 2021, 10:54:38 AM
Watkins x 2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: aj2k77 on March 21, 2021, 10:57:05 AM
Is perennial dickhead Mike Dean ref?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 21, 2021, 11:01:09 AM
Yep
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 21, 2021, 11:03:43 AM
 Villa 4 Tottingham 1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 21, 2021, 11:05:19 AM
Aston Villa have won just one of the past 19 meetings in all competitions, drawing three times and losing 15.

Tottenham have triumphed on their last six visits to Villa Park in all competitions, doing so by an aggregate score of 17-3.

Villa could lose six straight Premier League home games against a particular opponent for only the third occasion.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 21, 2021, 11:08:54 AM
As I remember Villa always used to beat Spurs

They were a soft touch mid table side back then. They've been better the last few years , but right now I would say they have returned to being a soft touch mid table side again.

Gary Lineker never scored a goal at VP, for anybody at any level.

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/566905455315005440/photo/1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: FrankyH on March 21, 2021, 11:31:35 AM
I remember a Spurs fan telling me (probably well over ten years ago, at work) that they had never finished in the top or bottom 6 of the premier league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on March 21, 2021, 11:32:13 AM
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Lets not forget Chas & Fucking Dave either, wash out yer gills and jellied eels are good for yer brain.
They made a lot of money out of Spurs and weren't even Spurs fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 21, 2021, 11:35:09 AM
Gods goal and Yorkie winner always stands out for me circa 96?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: robbo1874 on March 21, 2021, 11:59:23 AM
As I remember Villa always used to beat Spurs

They were a soft touch mid table side back then. They've been better the last few years , but right now I would say they have returned to being a soft touch mid table side again.

Gary Lineker never scored a goal at VP, for anybody at any level.

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/566905455315005440/photo/1
nice Gary stat. I saw his old man a few times in Leicester market.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: richtheholtender on March 21, 2021, 11:59:23 AM
I remember a Spurs fan telling me (probably well over ten years ago, at work) that they had never finished in the top or bottom 6 of the premier league.



Didn’t it take take them until 05 or something to finish in the top six of the premier league? “The big six”
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 21, 2021, 12:22:20 PM
A few memories of games against Spurs at VP. One of my first few games as a youngster, Boxing Day or thereabouts, a 0-0 with Alan Brazil up front for them, maybe 83? My sister was friends from childhood with Brendan Ormsby and we got in the players lounge afterwards. Nigel Spink was sitting with us and I remember Peter Withe standing at the bar.  I was only about 8 or 9 and one of my regrets is that I was probably too young to appreciate it and I can’t remember it clearly now.
First game of the season 86-87, Bob Wilson had just tipped us as outsiders for the league, full of optimism and expectation as a teenager in the Holte, soon evaporated with a Clive Allen hatrick and the rest is history for that season.
Under the lights at VP when we were in the Div 2, playing them in the league cup and beating them 2-1.
First season back up the following year, seeing Gazza close up, but beating them 2-1 I think.
Collymore having one of his few great games for villa and us destroying them 4-1 on Boxing Day 97.
Hasn’t been so good in recent years, would love to beat them tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: brontebilly on March 21, 2021, 12:28:45 PM
Any chance of us possibly going with wing backs tonight if Jack is out? We urgently need to try something different and the wingers clearly aren't working. Cash and Targett will be comfortable pushing on.

-----------------Martinez
-------Konsa, Engels, Mings
Cash, Luiz, Nakamba, McGinn, Targett
--------Traore/Barks, Watkins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Clampy on March 21, 2021, 12:38:09 PM
Any chance of us possibly going with wing backs tonight if Jack is out? We urgently need to try something different and the wingers clearly aren't working. Cash and Targett will be comfortable pushing on.

-----------------Martinez
-------Konsa, Engels, Mings
Cash, Luiz, Nakamba, McGinn, Targett
--------Traore/Barks, Watkins

That's actually not a bad idea although I think he'll understandbly want to keep a settled back four if he can. I'd like to see maybe one or two of the kids feature.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 21, 2021, 12:41:52 PM
With the Second highest clean sheets, massively improved on last season, why on earth would we change formation and bring in someone who hasn’t featured all season - rightly / wrongly.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Risso on March 21, 2021, 12:44:24 PM
Any chance of us possibly going with wing backs tonight if Jack is out? We urgently need to try something different and the wingers clearly aren't working. Cash and Targett will be comfortable pushing on.

-----------------Martinez
-------Konsa, Engels, Mings
Cash, Luiz, Nakamba, McGinn, Targett
--------Traore/Barks, Watkins

I suggested that a couple of weeks ago, trouble is I think you need Hause fit to even consider it. No way is Smith bringing in Engels for his first match this season in a rearranged defence and formation. Cash and Targett would make very good wing backs though, I reckon. You'd also need Jack to make it work as one of the two up front, in a free role behind Ollie. Otherwise you're having to play one of Trez/El Ghazi/Traore, and none of them can be relied on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 21, 2021, 12:45:38 PM
Any chance of us possibly going with wing backs tonight if Jack is out? We urgently need to try something different and the wingers clearly aren't working. Cash and Targett will be comfortable pushing on.

-----------------Martinez
-------Konsa, Engels, Mings
Cash, Luiz, Nakamba, McGinn, Targett
--------Traore/Barks, Watkins

I suggested that a couple of weeks ago, trouble is I think you need Hause fit to even consider it. No way is Smith bringing in Engels for his first match this season in a rearranged defence and formation. Cash and Targett would make very good wing backs though, I reckon. You'd also need Jack to make it work as one of the two up front, in a free role behind Ollie. Otherwise you're having to play one of Trez/El Ghazi/Traore, and none of them can be relied on.

Two half of brains don’t make a whole one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Drummond on March 21, 2021, 01:58:11 PM
I've seen some evidence of that on here recently. Though I'm sure that was more like one whole brain doesn't equate to a half of another.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 21, 2021, 02:02:43 PM
I've seen some evidence of that on here recently. Though I'm sure that was more like one whole brain doesn't equate to a half of another.

Post of the day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 21, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
If you look at the line up Spurs can put out against us it’s difficult to see how we are going to win without Jack.
We have to hope that they don’t like each other and have stopped playing for the manager.


Most of their players actually aren't that much better than what we've got. Would anyone seriously take Dier and Sanchez as CBs ahead of Konsa and Mings.

For all the stick we give El Ghazi he's scored 7 goals this season. Lucas Moura in about 15 more games has 9 goals for the season.

And likes of Sissoko and Hojiberg I find incredibly average midfield players. Certainly if we sign either of them I wouldn't be expecting us to break top 6 anytime soon.

That's over half the team of what will be playing tomorrow and it's largely been reflected in their results over last three months.

We will never be a top team again unless we shake off the feeling we can barely do anything in games Grealish dosen't play so that's something we simply have to improve on next season and winning v this sort of opposition without him would be a major boost.

Reading some of the posts above seems like we need a Paul e (how on earth can you predict us to lose to West Ham away) or John e rousing pre match pep talk (wink).
They have Moura Bale Ali Ndombole Reguilon and Kane. We could not beat Newcastle without Their 3 best players.
So hardly a surprise to think that us without Jack ( 4 wins from 24) May struggle.

Some decent names there but more for what they've done in the past, Moura for example has largely scored and assisted as much as El Ghazi has this season and we mostly see Anwar as one of our weaker starting players. Reguillon good player but Targett been excellent so far, one of best LBs in the league.

Not sure what Dele Alli has done in last two years to suggest he'll make a major impact on game tonight compared to Barkley, it's pretty much identical career paths for them.

There will be 4-5 Spurs playing starting tonight who wouldn't make us any stronger if we signed them in the summer. I'd say the Arsenal and Leicester 11s are much stronger and we beat one recently and narrowly lost to Leicester without Jack so forgive me if I don't think they'll just knock 3 or 4 past us without breaking sweat when their recent form suggests the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 21, 2021, 02:31:38 PM
Gods goal and Yorkie winner always stands out for me circa 96?

Big Dion's debut stands out for me. Two goals infront of the Holte and 3 up with ease before Ginola had a good last 20 minutes and helped them get back to 3-2. George Graham managed them in those times (and won them one of their two trophies in last 30 years) and we were top of the league. Happy days.

They won once at Villa Park between 1993-2008!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Allan C on March 21, 2021, 02:43:53 PM
Any chance of us possibly going with wing backs tonight if Jack is out? We urgently need to try something different and the wingers clearly aren't working. Cash and Targett will be comfortable pushing on.

-----------------Martinez
-------Konsa, Engels, Mings
Cash, Luiz, Nakamba, McGinn, Targett
--------Traore/Barks, Watkins
A the moment, the one part of the team that is playing anything like a top six team is the defence. Why would you want to tinker with them??
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 21, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
Is Son available?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 21, 2021, 02:45:32 PM
Is Son available?

Nope, as is Jack.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: levico on March 21, 2021, 03:11:39 PM
It’s one of those other team going through a bad patch needing benevolent opposition which is so often Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 21, 2021, 03:28:27 PM
It’s one of those other team going through a bad patch needing benevolent opposition which is so often Aston Villa.
But hasn’t been this season
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: john e on March 21, 2021, 03:42:44 PM
no Jack no win I’m afraid for me

hoping this post doesn’t age well
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: algy on March 21, 2021, 03:48:13 PM
I like us playing Spurs. Dunno why, but since I've been away from the area & have to be more selective with the games I go to, Spurs at home is one of the go-to fixtures. That and the FA Cup 3rd Round.

Us 4-1 Them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 21, 2021, 03:51:05 PM
It’s one of those other team going through a bad patch needing benevolent opposition which is so often Aston Villa.

You mean like when their first team are playing our youth reserves and a record-breakiing defeat is inevitable?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 21, 2021, 06:18:41 PM
I'm missing this due to having to go for lunch with an 81 year-old from Boston. The last Sunday night game I missed was when we played Liverpool, due to having been at lunch with an 81 year-old from Highley (a friend of Gerry Hitchens and Kevin Keelan). You know what to do, Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Tottingham Hotspurts - Pre Match Thread - Sunday - 19.30
Post by: manic-road on March 21, 2021, 06:31:02 PM
Grealish doesn't make the squad today.
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