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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: ChicagoLion on March 11, 2021, 05:45:05 PM
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Newcastle Palace Olbiyon Fulham
'The Mighty Reds YNWA'
Spuds X 2,Chelsea Manure Citeh Everton x2
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Why not everton x2 too?
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Newcastle Palace Olbiyon Fulham
'The Mighty Reds YNWA'
Spuds X 2,Chelsea Manure Citeh Everton
We have 12 games left; you've missed the home game vs BlueScouse; as has the AV official site.
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Let's do a John Gregory-start on it. Win 9 of them and lose 2 to teams who go on to be relegated (two of Newcastle/Baggies and Fulham, I guess).
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Anything over 12 points will represent a massive step forward for the club. If we manage 55 pints I'd be more than a happy little bunny.
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Anything over 12 points will represent a massive step forward for the club. If we manage 55 pints I'd be more than a happy little bunny.
Jeez I'd love a lazy 55 or so pints right about now.
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Anything over 12 points will represent a massive step forward for the club. If we manage 55 pints I'd be more than a happy little bunny.
If we manage 55 pints we are either celebrating wins or drowning sorrows ;)
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68
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These threads always go well. I'll guess minus fifteen.
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We will finish with 53 points by my calculations/guessing.
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It's 12 games, not 11 until the end of the season. I'll go for the same as Damo, a mildly disappointing 13 points from that lot, taking us to 53.
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All amended.
16.
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23
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12.
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All I'm saying is it wont be 35.
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All amended.
16.
Thanks mate
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I will be disappointed with less than 24. Those 6 matches against spuds, everton, Chelsea and poo will be crucial.
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14.
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I will be disappointed with less than 24. Those 6 matches against spuds, everton, Chelsea and poo will be crucial.
It's 3 Points for a win, not 2.
36pts, finish 2nd on 76pts. Will do for this season, needs improvement for next:)
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8 points at the most - maybe beat the Albion and Palace - Draw Fulham (they have improved a great deal from earlier in the season) and a draw against Newcastle tonight
We never beat Utd (they will get a very dubious penalty in the 110th minute)
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Based on form to date, an additional 18.
Based on an optimistic view of the games ahead, an additional 26. This was my immediate estimate.
A more pessimistic analysis of what's in front of us means more like 13. This may occur if JG takes longer to return than early April and if Smith decides to blood some 2 or 3 youngsters, for experience.
Who said something about hedging you bets?!
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We've been playing poorly for weeks now, save for the odd spell like the first half against Wolves. Unless we can turn a corner and get our mojo back it feels like it's going to be a dissapointing end to the season. Right now guess would be 10-12. But Jack may come back on fire and it could be game on for the run in.
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Based on form to date, an additional 18.
Based on an optimistic view of the games ahead, an additional 26. This was my immediate estimate.
A more pessimistic analysis of what's in front of us means more like 13. This may occur if JG takes longer to return than early April and if Smith decides to blood some 2 or 3 youngsters, for experience.
Who said something about hedging you bets?!
We've got 14 points from the last 12 games, and we've got mostly got harder games to come than we had in the last 12, with Spurs x 2, Everton x 2, Liverpool, Man City, Man U and Chelsea. That's 8 games where we're playing teams in the top 8, compared to 4 teams who were in the top 8 when we played them in the last 12 games we've had. I can see the season going out with a bit of a whimper to be honest, which would be a shame.
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I'd take the 10 needed to hit 50, that would be a big step forward from last season. It would feel like a let down after the start we had though so I'd hope we can get into the 15-20 group. 55-60 is normally in the 6-8th area and that would exceed the expectations of almost everyone on here from the poll at the start of the season.
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I'd take the 10 needed to hit 50, that would be a big step forward from last season. It would feel like a let down after the start we had though so I'd hope we can get into the 15-20 group. 55-60 is normally in the 6-8th area and that would exceed the expectations of almost everyone on here from the poll at the start of the season.
I think 10 or lower would be very worrying (relegation form) and would indicate a bit of a malaise has set in.
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I'd take the 10 needed to hit 50, that would be a big step forward from last season. It would feel like a let down after the start we had though so I'd hope we can get into the 15-20 group. 55-60 is normally in the 6-8th area and that would exceed the expectations of almost everyone on here from the poll at the start of the season.
I think 10 or lower would be very worrying (relegation form) and would indicate a bit of a malaise has set in.
True, but it would still mean comfortable mid-table and our best season since MoN left so I'd take it even if it is disappointing after where we were at Christmas. If we did that with Wesley getting a few games under his belt and a few more cameos from the academy players I'd accept it as part of our progress. As I said I'd prefer something like 16-17 points to keep up the decent performances that we've seen most of the season.
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I'd take the 10 needed to hit 50, that would be a big step forward from last season. It would feel like a let down after the start we had though so I'd hope we can get into the 15-20 group. 55-60 is normally in the 6-8th area and that would exceed the expectations of almost everyone on here from the poll at the start of the season.
I think 10 or lower would be very worrying (relegation form) and would indicate a bit of a malaise has set in.
True, but it would still mean comfortable mid-table and our best season since MoN left so I'd take it even if it is disappointing after where we were at Christmas. If we did that with Wesley getting a few games under his belt and a few more cameos from the academy players I'd accept it as part of our progress. As I said I'd prefer something like 16-17 points to keep up the decent performances that we've seen most of the season.
bringing on a few youngster's would be very welcome.
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10 points from the final 12 games would be hugely worrying. That would mean 24 points from 24 games, which would be the last ⅔ of the season played at just better than relegation form, with a point a game being the average return for the sides finishing 16th and 17th in the last few years. That would indicate that the early season form was a bit of a flash in the pan and that despite the spend, we still hadn't improved very much. I'm sure we'll do better than that though.
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10 points from the final 12 games would be hugely worrying. That would mean 24 points from 24 games, which would be the last ⅔ of the season played at just better than relegation form, with a point a game being the average return for the sides finishing 16th and 17th in the last few years. That would indicate that the early season form was a bit of a flash in the pan and that despite the spend, we still hadn't improved very much. I'm sure we'll do better than that though.
Agreed. It's true that the end position would show excellent progress from last year which most of us would have been happy with at the start of the season. But it would also be true that we've been pretty rubbish since Christmas and the management team haven't been able to find a way to get out of a slump. It would also be a massive opportunity missed to really kick on in exceptional circumstances.
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Thought 60 was still possible a few weeks back but we need Jack to play majority of what's left to even get close.
Probably going to be in 50-55 point range now. Win tonight and v West Brom and Palace and a "shock" win v team who'll finish above us (please finally Man. United) and then add on a few draws to that.
End of season looks brutal but it might turn out that Spurs rest half their team as they're still in europa at that stage and Chelsea on last day have already secured top 4 and they might still be in CL so could be chance of 4 points if it pans out like that.
Need to win tonight to get dreaming again.
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Based on form to date, an additional 18.
Based on an optimistic view of the games ahead, an additional 26. This was my immediate estimate.
A more pessimistic analysis of what's in front of us means more like 13. This may occur if JG takes longer to return than early April and if Smith decides to blood some 2 or 3 youngsters, for experience.
Who said something about hedging you bets?!
We've got 14 points from the last 12 games, and we've got mostly got harder games to come than we had in the last 12, with Spurs x 2, Everton x 2, Liverpool, Man City, Man U and Chelsea. That's 8 games where we're playing teams in the top 8, compared to 4 teams who were in the top 8 when we played them in the last 12 games we've had. I can see the season going out with a bit of a whimper to be honest, which would be a shame.
True but you assume that our early-season form does not bounce back - which it may as the newer players become more EPL-savvy.
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Obviously having Jack back is crucial to us finishing the season well. Our points total without him is crap. I know that all teams miss their best players when they're out, but he's head and shoulders better than everybody else we've got. At least we can rely on the defence to keep things tight for us, so a point a game at least shouldn't be beyond us.
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12
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1 game down, and 1 point against one of the two weakest teams we have left to play. We need to improve on recent performances by about 50% to get our season going again.
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It will be tough if we have no Jack for rest of season or if he isnt available for selection till may.
Then that would be 10- 15 pts max.
Though I'm thinking 20+pts as we pick up form and that's possible with the quality of squad and having improved from last season can give anyone a game and win.
There isn't any time outside of Man City to fear and are capable of winning matches when we click.
Up the Villa
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No chance will we get anywhere near 20 pts with the form were in and fixtures left.
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No chance will we get anywhere near 20 pts with the form were in and fixtures left.
We should be good for 6 points from the stripey twats and Palace, but other than that it's hard to see where any wins are going to come from.
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Form is temporary. With jack back and the team raising its game against the big boys. We may get more points than expected right now. This weekend Chelsea dropped points Everton dropped points. Spuds dropped points and lost Son for a few games. Not unlikely that wet spam and the red scouse will drop points too.
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On current form I see only between 6 to 8 points from our remaining matches.
Hope the team prove me wrong but, since Xmas we have really struggled to score. Even in the last couple of matches, when Jack played, we weren’t exactly setting the world alight. Also wish that Dean could tweak the formation occasionally instead of just like for like subs.
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After our fast start we have got 29 points in 23 games so this would point to around 14 from the games left (if we can recover some of our mojo and Jack is back asap), to leave us on around 55 which should see us in the top half and represent great progress with a solid back line to build on.