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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2021, 04:34:51 PM
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Delighted to see Morgan start. But no AEG for some reason
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Could be interesting.
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That's the right team for me. Cue a 3-0 loss.
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Even I’m not going to moan about that side
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We’re owed a performance today.
Sanson to get on the scoresheet.
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No El Ghazi?
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That's a pretty young bench and very interesting to Kessler is included should Elmo struggle
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Glad to see Morgan starting. Win please Villa. I see the Jack, “he might be ready for the next game” is starting to stretch out.
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El Ghazi injured? Not even on the bench.
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Some surprises there in the 11. Interested to how the midfield looks with Doug back and Sanson getting a full debut.
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Good to see Philogene Bidace on the bench
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Significant changes from us. These guys won't have had chance to develop relationships with each other on the park so may lack a little fluency and cohesion at times.
Good to see Sanson starting though and hope Luiz ups his game.
Come on boys!
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Bit thin on the bench aren't we?
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El Ghazi must be injured - not even on the bench.
Expect they'll play their Traore on the left against Elmo - who will get murdered, unless he gets some support from midfield. Unfortunately that's likely to be Bernie, who isn't the most conscientious when it comes to getting back. Perhaps Sanson will fill that role.
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Some surprises there in the 11. Interested to how the midfield looks with Doug back and Sanson getting a full debut.
I reckon Sanson on the same side as Traore, and McGinn with Trez. Keeps the left foot/right foot, inside/outside combinations out wide if our fullbacks have to stay at home.
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We need to make the extra man in midfield count today. Dougie and Sanson are better passers. Let's hope Dougie is back to what he can be like after his games out.
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Very interesting selection come on Villa
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Like that side, really need Douggie to step up today.
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I'd possibly have gone for Nakamba than McGinn, but apart from that it looks fine.
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Villa 6/4
Wolves 21/10
Draw 21/10
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Good to see Philogene Bidace on the bench
Interesting, wonder if the signing of a contract was holding him back
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Can’t argue with that line-up.
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Good to see Philogene Bidace on the bench
I hope we get a chance to give him and Kesler some game time today, I really like both of them.
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That's the right team for me. Cue a 3-0 loss.
Ha-ha that's about right.
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Adama will play left side and destroy Elmo. Nakamba unlucky to get the chop
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Pleased to see Tresequet get a run, he's had to wait for it. He'll get about the pitch and get into their box which is needed.
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El Ghazi must be injured - not even on the bench.
Expect they'll play their Traore on the left against Elmo - who will get murdered, unless he gets some support from midfield. Unfortunately that's likely to be Bernie, who isn't the most conscientious when it comes to getting back. Perhaps Sanson will fill that role.
I think Neto is even more dangerous.
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The main threat is from the wings, not sure that team is set up to deal with that.
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Adama will play left side and destroy Elmo. Nakamba unlucky to get the chop
They’ve just said he’s got no goals or assists. I think I know where this is heading...
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Good to see Sanson starting, happy with the team, Neto main threat from them.
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Adama will play left side and destroy Elmo. Nakamba unlucky to get the chop
They’ve just said he’s got no goals or assists. I think I know where this is heading...
The iron law of the ex? Not today please.
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I didn't realise only Citeh had more clean sheets than us this season.
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Win please Villa!! I’d struggle to face my Wolves and Baggie supporting colleagues tomorrow if we lost!!
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Traore vs Elmo is not good. We need to starve them of the ball and not be too hung ho.
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Redknapp completely bottled out of saying Philogene-Bidace in the studio, good to see him get a mention though.
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Each time I see Wolves play (maximum twice per year) I am reminded again as to how hideous that kit is. 'Old gold' as my simple-minded dog head mate calls it.
Come on Villa, let's have some high energy attacking football from the off.
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Redknapp completely bottled out of saying Philogene-Bidace in the studio, good to see him get a mention though.
He acknowledged that though. Fair play to him for referring to him.
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Oh jeez, Don Goodman on commentary. Should be a nice balanced, non-biased commentary.
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Redknapp completely bottled out of saying Philogene-Bidace in the studio, good to see him get a mention though.
Is it Bidace as in Ace Ventura, or Liberace?
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Good cross Targett.
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Oooooooooh, fuck, close, what an effort!
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Watkins. Cross bar. For the 100th time this season.
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unlucky Ollie
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Watkins hitting the woodwork is becoming far too common.
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Watkins would be world champ in crossbar challenge.
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Wtf luiz
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Brilliant Ollie, and very unlucky, goal of the season contender that would have been.
Anyway, good bright start.
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Argh unlucky Ollie. Morgan looking handy already.
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Redknapp completely bottled out of saying Philogene-Bidace in the studio, good to see him get a mention though.
Is it Bidace as in Ace Ventura, or Liberace?
Absolutely no idea, that's why i thought it was funny that he bottled out of it.
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FFS Luiz, shit like that was why you were put on the bench.
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Well played Elmo.
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Good tackle SJM.
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Good game this so far, both teams look up for it.
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Trez!
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Open game
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Early doors but Luiz looking a bit of a liability.
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FFS Trez!
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Fcuking hell he’s got to shoot there.
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FFS Traore, dreadful ball straight to Traore. We really don't want to be doing that.
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Ollie has to shoot there!
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Fucking hell how did we fuck that up?
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Ollie why didn't you shoot ffs, did the hard work.
We're much sharper in midfield which is good.
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Should have shot.
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Targett sloppy again.
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Ollie took that on against Liverpool maybe a confidence thing.
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WTF Watkins, shoot don't pass.
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Need to retain the ball better
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Great free kick. Not.
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My stream has changed to BVB Vs Bayern...
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Watkins hitting the woodwork is becoming far too common.
This. All very well saying he works hard and contributes a lot. That should be a given. He misses far too many good chances for me.
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Jack in the stands. Holding up an ‘it’s not shin splints’ sign.
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The positive is that we're creating better quality chances than in the week already.
I actually think Watkins did the right thing with that chance but Traore had just checked back as he played it, if he doesn't it's a bit of a tap in.
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What a waste of a free kick.
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Fcuking hell just play the ball Trez!
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Jack in the stands. Holding up an ‘it’s not shin splints’ sign.
In fine print - I’ll be back in 2 months
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Gormless by Trez
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Watkins hitting the woodwork is becoming far too common.
This. All very well saying he works hard and contributes a lot. That should be a given. He misses far too many good chances for me.
His effort in this match wasn't a good one though, it was something out of nothing and it was very good, just unlucky.
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Usual randomness from Trez so far.
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For Christ sake!
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You'r fucking kidding me
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Jack in the stands. Holding up an ‘it’s not shin splints’ sign.
In fine print - I’ll be back in 2 months
Free the Bodymoor One!
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It’s going to be one of those days isn’t it.
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Fucking hell, Bar again, brilliant ball in by Traore.
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Cross bar. A fucking gain
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FFS. How did he miss that.
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Jeez, not running for us infront of goal currently is it.
Unlucky Ezri.
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Fucking hell we should be out of sight already.
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It’s going to be one of those days isn’t it.
Almost certainly.
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FFS can already see our luck is not in tonight.
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It’s going to be one of those days isn’t it.
Almost certainly.
Yeah, but if Wolves had struck the bar twice we would all be thinking that it was only a matter of time before they scored
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How many times this season have we hit the post or bar. I swear we should have 10 more goals.
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These always start games shite so we have to score during this period.
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Neto much more dangerous than Adama these days, Trez got to get back quicker as he's getting 1 v 1 against Targett too easily.
Aside from that happy with what I've seen so far.
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Much better shape and performance. McGinn pressing high with Sanson in the team and it is having a positive impact. Jammy dogheads, hope it isn't one of those nights.
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FFS can already see our luck is not in tonight.
We never win on a Wednesday
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How many times this season have we hit the post or bar. I swear we should have 10 more goals.
Watkins has 7 this season apparently
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Dendonkey struggling.
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Much better shape and performance. McGinn pressing high with Sanson in the team and it is having a positive impact. Jammy dogheads, hope it isn't one of those nights.
Yes McGinn looks much better playing a more advanced role than a defensive midfielder.
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Oh my god please let it not be Elmo AND Taylor.
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Started well
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Should be 3 up.
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Midfield has much better control today.
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Fack Targett injured.
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Targett down. Great.
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Much better shape and performance. McGinn pressing high with Sanson in the team and it is having a positive impact. Jammy dogheads, hope it isn't one of those nights.
Yes McGinn looks much better playing a more advanced role than a defensive midfielder.
I was interested to see how he was going to combine with Sanson. Both have the ability to get up and down. McGinn is a much more limited footballer just defending most of the time. Actually as is Doug.
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Didn't realise Konsa strike deflected onto the bar, would've been in otherwise.
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Is it just me that can only tell the difference between Luiz and Sanson by the colour of their boots (when it's on the wide angle camera), they move in a very similar way and occupy similar spaces.
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Aston Villa. Crossbar Challenge Champions 2020-21.
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McGinn much moor like his old self.
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When did they stop playing in gold and opted for yellow?
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Another shit free kick.
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Watkins having a bit of a mare.
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How is that not a booking for Coady? Watkins had turned him and would've been away without the foul.
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Fucking hell has anyone noticed our short free-kick decisions are frequently awful.
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Fucking hell has anyone noticed our short free-kick decisions are frequently awful.
Yep.
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How was that a yellow card?
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How was that a yellow card?
After not giving Coady one a few minutes ago that's a shit decision.
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When did they stop playing in gold and opted for yellow?
They decided they wanted to get even more Portuguese. This year it was the away kit. On the home they are going moving from orange to yellow this season. Next season the shorts will be blue with green trim.
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Trez not good enough at this level. Hopefully he scores now.
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They’re starting to come into this.
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This is a hard watch. Not much composure in midfield for both teams.
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Morg has lovely close control.
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Good run by Sanson and won a corner.
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Once again we are failing to score against inferior opposition.
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This is a hard watch. Not much composure in midfield for both teams.
Getting a bit scrappy now. No shots on target for either team says a great deal
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This is a hard watch. Not much composure in midfield for both teams.
i think our midfield have been ok, much more balanced than in the week. The only problem was a couple of slightly casual touches from Luiz but he's also done some great covering play.
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Early impetus has fizzled out a bit at the moment.
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Ollie's the new Dean Saunders, 7 times hit woodwork this season.
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We are not looking like scoring
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This is a hard watch. Not much composure in midfield for both teams.
Getting a bit scrappy now. No shots on target for either team says a great deal
Guess we have hit the bar twice but there isn't much cohesion to our play...
Luiz is frustrating me...taking no responsibility in getting on the ball. Playing it backwards every time
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Early impetus has fizzled out a bit at the moment.
Maybe if we stop hoofing it up to Ollie would help. Other than that, we're looking okay.
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Ha, have some of that! Majestic from Mings.
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Think we've been OK, just breaking down in the final third too often at the moment.
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Once again we are failing to score against inferior opposition.
:)
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These are shit by the way, need to be putting them away tonight.
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Samson showing he should have started last few games.
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Think we've been OK, just breaking down in the final third too often at the moment.
We look a bit short of confidence in the final 3rd but we're not far away from the team we saw in the first month of the season, we could have 3-4 here with a bit of composure/luck.
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Ha, have some of that! Majestic from Mings.
Exactly what I thought :)
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Great to listen to opposition commentary for the second week running, ffs.
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Ha, have some of that! Majestic from Mings.
Imperial, surely?
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We’ve played well today without the rewards to show for it. And we’ve been unlucky on top of all of that. Important we don’t let this standard drop. This game is there for the taking.
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Our set pieces have been poor, every single one straight to a Doghead.
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Great to listen to opposition commentary for the second week running, ffs.
Don't think they've been too bad
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At least our crosses are beating the first man today, but still finding a defender every time.
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The crossing has been 100% better than midweek.
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Just no quality in the final third at all.
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As usual, they foul constantly but we get the yellow cards.
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Ha, have some of that! Majestic from Mings.
Imperial, surely?
There was certainly a distinct lack of mercy.
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Watkins has been completely magnificent
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Traore either looks great or like a total pub player. It's mostly been the latter this evening.
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I was the edge of my seat with disappointment
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We should be winning by a couple.
Delivery into the box hasn't been great, Targett still hung over from Wednesday. But I feel McGinn pressing higher up is working and Sanson looks tidy and energetic.
These haven't troubled us at all defensively.
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Watkins has been completely magnificent
He is marvellous, literally.
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We’ve played nicely just need to be more incisive. I like the balance in midfield.
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The better team by a good distance. Should be a couple of goals up really.
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Great to listen to opposition commentary for the second week running, ffs.
Absolutely.
Did Goodman play for Wolves once by any chance e??
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Villa in control
working really hard. 2 or 3 men buzzing around when ever they have ball.
really nice build up from the back beating their press and resulting in watkins shot
McGinn Sansom, good halfs
really pleased so far,
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Think it’s been good, it’s just not falling for us in the box and we’ve hit the bar twice. Best progressive performance in weeks as opposed to having to be defensive. Sanson looks good, Traore (ours) unpredictable as ever.
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Frustrating half. Slightly the better side, but 2 great chances not taken. I expect Wolves will be better 2nd half.
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Ha, have some of that! Majestic from Mings.
Imperial, surely?
Merciless.
We have been the better side in the first half.
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Watkins, Elmo and McGinn have been our players. Centre backs not had too much to do.
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We should be ahead. Decent game for a 0-0, though my worry levels increase hugely when Ollie Watkins is slow to get up and looks hurt.
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Another half where we should score but don’t, we are impotent in the penalty area.
Watkins puts himself about but who is going to score?
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Hopefully we can score in the second half a bit more luck and we would have scored a couple instead of hitting the woodwork.
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Great to listen to opposition commentary for the second week running, ffs.
Absolutely.
Did Goodman play for Wolves once by any chance e??
Never good enough to play for a club like us, and he sounded like he knows and it's somehow our fault. Tosser.
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O.k with that.
Just not got the final ball right but we've got in the positions and should've got at least one goal from the two that hit the bar.
Wolves offered nothing unless Neto is on the ball.
Neither team has much to change it from the bench so interesting which one willl dip more in last 20 minutes. That's probably where the game will be won if there's a winner.
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We are not in control. It’s nil nil and Wolves will get better.
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That was their shit half.
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Watkins, Elmo and McGinn have been our players. Centre backs not had too much to do.
I'd have Sanson ahead of Elmo and McGinn, he's been at the heart of everything we've done so far. Watkins is on his own against 3 centre backs and has been on top, really impressive performance.
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Need someone attacking the D following in on our shit crosses. Every time it's dropping to a buttercup to complete a relaxed clearance.
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Ollie needs a bit of luck. We're a little loose and careless at times. Traore especially. He also needs to start challenging with headers in the box from crosses. He offers nothing in this respect and certainly doesn't assist Ollie.
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Watkins has been completely magnificent
As has McGinn, Sanson growing into the game, it's the two either side of Ollie that aren't up to it.
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There's been good energy from the midfield 3, and Watkins must be the unluckiest player in the league.
Got to expect Wolves to improve in the second half.
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I love Bert but he's done eff all today.
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Very decent first half. Should be 2 up.
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Defence has been excellent.
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Morgan and McGinn look really good.
Despite the pressure, though, we've not picked up any of the second balls all half; which is one reason why we're not winning.
Tougher half coming up.
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Unlike a few people on here tonight praising him I think McGinn has had quite a quiet game.
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Good half for us. Desperately unlucky not to be ahead.
Elmohamedy and McGinn in particular have been excellent.
Need to take any big chance that comes our way second half though.
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Playing well just need a bit of luck
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Good half I thought I get the feeling if we score one we’ll get four
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I think Rednap called it right regarding Traore.
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Like McGinn in a more advanced role as he presses the ball higher up the pitch. Not sure why we hitting hopeful crosses into the box when they have got three centre halves in there.
I think we've looked OK, but just missing that bit of quality that Grealish brings and Barkley should be offering.
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Good half I thought I get the feeling if we score one we’ll get four
I agree, if the Watkins one that hit the bar goes in we'd have smashed them.
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Played decent. McGinn having best game for some time and Sanson getting better. Both Traore's have been poor. Elmo aged well so far.
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Sanson seems genuinely two footed...what is this magic?
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Good half I thought I get the feeling if we score one we’ll get four
I agree, if the Watkins one that hit the bar goes in we'd have smashed them.
Precedent would suggest that we'd have comfortably seen out a 1-0 win. It's what we now do after scoring in the fifth minute.
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Luiz seems just off the pace.
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My Konsa-numbered shirts are clearly hindering him. I've changed to last season's unnumbered green shirt for the second half.
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Neto's quality isn't he?
We need to sign a player like that for our right side in the summer. Imagine having that pace with Jack the other side.
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First goal almost certainly wins this.
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They are just happy to hang on and wait for a break
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Neto's quality isn't he?
We need to sign a player like that for our right side in the summer. Imagine having that pace with Jack the other side.
Mostly about his pace to be honest. He's a threat one-on-one or running in behind because very few fullbacks could keep up with him.
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They are just happy to hang on and wait for a break
When you can break like Neto just did, I can see why. Rapid.
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Luiz seems just off the pace.
Hopeless...and I'm being kind
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Neto's quality isn't he?
We need to sign a player like that for our right side in the summer. Imagine having that pace with Jack the other side.
Both him and Raphina are that bracket of player that would instantly improve us
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Traore not even competing,
I am talking about Bert who just gave the ball away again.
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So much breaks down with Bert
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Poor from Bert there
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They are just happy to hang on and wait for a break
When you can break like Neto just did, I can see why. Rapid.
Imagine having him on our right wing? He'd do.
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Neto's quality isn't he?
We need to sign a player like that for our right side in the summer. Imagine having that pace with Jack the other side.
Both him and Raphina are that bracket of player that would instantly improve us
Yes, they all seem to be more complete as a wide player. Traore, Trez and El Ghazi all have their strong points, but all of them can be a bit hopeless at times as well. None of them have that out and out pace either.
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Bert needs to be hooked
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Must nearly be Barkey time.
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Our Traore is having a mare. Luiz not much better.
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Miss of the season contender
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Must nearly be Barkey time.
10-15 mins away from Obligatory Smith Sub Time yet.
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Traore really is the weak link in a good performance. Gives it away too often.
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I thought we were done for then.
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Fookin hell. Got away with that.
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nearly caught napping!!!
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Our Traore is having a mare. Luiz not much better.
Both need to he hooked asap
Big let off there , Luiz not tracking run
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Miss of the season there. Phew.
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Come on Villa
Come on Villa
Wow worse miss than Ronnie???
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Good clearance off the line there!
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Got away with it big time there. Learn from that boys. Come on!
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As the French say 'We have our arse lined with pasta'.
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What a miss!
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Haha, if I missed that at 6 aside I'd have the piss ripped out of me for months.
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Neto's quality isn't he?
Plus - think how good Portugal have suddenly become. Stick Ronaldo in the penalty area, and then behind him stick Fernandes, Bernardo Silva, Neto, Joao Felix, Jota, Cancelo, Ruben Dias, Guerreiro...
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Wolves are on top now. We need to react
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Miss of the season there. Phew.
Ronnie Rosendhal proportions 😂
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Luiz and McGinn AGAIN failing to block off the runner at a corner.
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Who is the commentator?
Knows his stuff.
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How was Coady give 5 yards of space at a corner??
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I don't mind a player like Bertie giving the ball away if it's mixed in with him creating things from nothing. The problem in the last few games is that he hasn't bene creating much either.
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Fookin hell. Got away with that.
The commentator compared it to Ronnie Rozanthal's miss ;D
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Neto's quality isn't he?
Plus - think how good Portugal have suddenly become. Stick Ronaldo in the penalty area, and then behind him stick Fernandes, Bernardo Silva, Neto, Joao Felix, Jota, Cancelo, Ruben Dias, Guerreiro...
Not really suddenly is it, they did win the Euros 5 years ago.
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They know we will run out of ideas and resort to hit and hope
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What?
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I don't mind a player like Bertie giving the ball away if it's mixed in with him creating things from nothing. The problem in the last few games is that he hasn't bene creating much either.
It's going on a lot longer than a few weeks with him. I'm struggling to think of his last decent game to be honest
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We definitely need to change something, they're on top right now.
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Sanson? Really?
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Barkley on. Time for him to do something
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Sanson off and not Bert? Very, very odd decision.
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Would've kept Sanson on but can understand with him on a yellow.
Barkley on....
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Blimey - I thought Sanson was doing OK! Can only think he's tiring and they're worried about the booking he's already had.
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That is so so daft from Trezeguet
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Traore has been gash
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Looks like he's hurt
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Traore should have been subbed, not for the 1st time has offered next to nothing.
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That will be why then
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Sanson looks like an injury
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FFS Trez be smarter.
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Is that a big lion tattoo on Sanson's leg? Good lad!
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Don Goodman rewriting what actually happened by suggesting Trez had his hands on Dendonker- looked the other way round to me
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FFS Trez be smarter.
To be fair that was just predictable from the ref
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We're low on ideas, again.
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Sanson? Really?
Had a knock, he was looking a little off the pace this half so I suspect he'd tried to run it off.
I'd take Bert off soon, give the youngster a run and swap Trez to the right.
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As the French say 'We have our arse lined with pasta'.
Never heard that one. Not sure what is suppose to mean?
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We've just not kept the ball at all second half.
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Can't hold the ball up at all now, constantly coming back. I'd look at getting Davis on and put Ollie out wide last 15 minutes.
No other real options on the bench.
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I have this dream that one day Kienan will come on and change a game
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God that was so fcuking poor.
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It's like a pre season friendly.
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The energy we had in the first half has completely gone. Luiz in particular has been poor
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What difference will putting Davis on make? Would rather see P-B on.
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Neves. Free kick.
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It’s been a poor second half. Our goal threat has gone. We were once such a free scoring team so to go two games without a goal would be very concerning.
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I have this dream that one day Kienan will come on and change a game
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Was there any contact there?
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Foul?’
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We have allowed them back into this game. We aren't ruthless or clinical enough when we dominante. Same as Burnley x2.
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Maybe not the brightest throw but terrible touch from Doug there.
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Can't hold the ball up at all now, constantly coming back. I'd look at getting Davis on and put Ollie out wide last 15 minutes.
No other real options on the bench.
Yep, Watkins wide left , shift Trez over
Luiz twin brother is having some shocker out there
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Traore has been very poor. I'd consider a change. If we're just going to lump it, bring Davis on.
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Not turned up 2nd half yet
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What a shit free kick.
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Sanson looks like an injury
Not liking the look of Barkley coming on in a deeper role. Would have either brought Nakamba on or dropped McGinn deeper.
We're way off it in this second half so far.
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As the French say 'We have our arse lined with pasta'.
Never heard that one. Not sure what is suppose to mean?
Nous avons le cul bordé de nouilles.
It means to be really lucky. It's not clear where it comes from or why having pasta round your arse is lucky.
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What a shit free kick.
Yep. Overly complicated nothing burger.
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Traore off please now
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Fucking Radio Wulvz is really pissing me off on commentary.
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Fucking Radio Wulvz is really pissing me off on commentary.
Are you the Marquis de Sade?!
Edit - reslie you're referring to Don. I thought for a sec you were listening on radio WM.
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What a shit free kick.
Yep. Overly complicated nothing burger.
A perfect summary.
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This is crap.
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It's a good thing wolves aren't on it today.
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What a pathetic freekick.
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Trez coming off, Kienan coming on.
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Kienan!
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Who was that player putting a bra on just now?
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Trez off , Davis on.
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Trez coming off, Kienan coming on.
Oh, well. Come on, Davis. Prove me wrong.
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It winds me up that players aren't ready to come on. First Barkley pissing about with his studs and now Davis doesnt have his shirt on.
What is so difficult about being ready?
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Who was that player putting a bra on just now?
Thank
Keeley Davis.
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Thank God Trez is coming off utter garbage.
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Trez off , Davis on.
How does that work?
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Kienan!
Doesn't Dean want to win?
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Really disappointing half from us.
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Another stupid fcuking challenge.
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Thank God Trez is coming off utter garbage.
Harsh. I don't think he's been that bad. Traore and Luiz have looked worse.
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Who was that player putting a bra on just now?
Charlie George?
One for the teenagers there ;)
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Brilliant save.
What the fuck is Barkley doing?
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Barkley dear God.
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I might put my house on 0-1 to the Dingles.
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Bloody Hell Barclay!!!
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Brain dead from Elmo. Brain dead from Barkley.
What a save though.
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Fucking hell Barkley. What are you doing son?
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Incredible save. What the fuck was Barkley doing.
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We've been poor second half, not sure I see it improving with Davis on. I've never wanted a player to prove me wrong as much as this - come on Kienan!
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Now is the time, son, now is the time.
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wolves have pushed us back right back this half. davis will hold the ball up the other end. This is what i think deano's plan is?
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Barkley's a joke isn't he, should've cost us a goal.
He'd be getting some stick if we had crowds in.
Finally make the Davis sub aswell after 5 minutes.
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Bloody Hell Barclay!!!
Can't spell :)
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Fuck off Smith this is utter garbage again ....I see Southampton managed to beat " mighty" Sheffield earlier today
We really do appear a one man team
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Our midfield has disappeared with the sanson sub.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
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After a bright 1st half, we have been abysmal in the 2nd
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It would be peak Villa if little lord Fauntleroy scored the winner against us.
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Why is Traore still on?
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Both sides settling for a 0-0 draw with Davis and Silva coming on.
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Fuck off Goodman you Dingle ******.
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Shocking from Barkley. My stream is so far behind it is laughable.
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0-0 at home. Bring on Kienan. It's so far-fetched it might work Dean.*
*It won't.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Way over the top
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Davis is the right choice. He might not be a goal threat but he can get hold of the ball. I would have had Bert off though, he's been naff.
Really poor second half. The goal threat really has dried up badly over the last couple of months.
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This is embarrassing second half. We played a lot better v Sheff Utd.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Do you think a better manager would get more from them, or is this their level?
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Ramsey coming on, probably for Bert.
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camped on the 18 yard line all 2nd half we need to push right up and have a few jabs at them.
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This has been very poor from us second half. Just can't keep hold of the ball.
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Ramsey coming on, probably for Bert.
Hopefully for Barkley
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Is this it for the rest of the season?
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The no winger approach.
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I wish Deano was braver and brought Philogene Bidace on instead ,
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The stupid tactic of Mings and Konsa behind Emi for goal kicks is doing my nut in.
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Looks like we are limping on to the end of the season ......every time we get an opportunity to push on we fuck it up ...so very disappointing and frustrating ...Smith ain't the man to take us to the next level
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Way over the top
Agreed. TV reel it in, we are on a journey, it will be bumpy but it’s going in the right direction. We have some fantastic kids to come though and we are the youngest team in the league. It’s only going to get better
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The stupid tactic of Mings and Konsa behind Emi for goal kicks is doing my nut in.
Isn't Emi carrying a slight injury?
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Passing been woeful this half.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Do you think a better manager would get more from them, or is this their level?
It’s possible. But when I look at how much West Ham, Everton and Spurs as examples of teams in and around us have spent just in the time we have been out of this league, it’s not entirely shocking to see us hit a wall. They have consistently bought a better grade of player for a more sustained period of time. I think with the right investment in the summer we will take another step forward but we might be at our limit now. We took a lot of teams by surprise early in but after being scouted, after a tiring season and Jack being out we just look flat.
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Davis is the right choice. He might not be a goal threat but he can get hold of the ball.
Really poor second half. The goal threat really has dried up badly
We need goals but Davis is the right choice? I'm not sure him getting hold of the ball will amount to anything but let's see.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Way over the top
Agreed. TV reel it in, we are on a journey, it will be bumpy but it’s going in the right direction. We have some fantastic kids to come though and we are the youngest team in the league. It’s only going to get better
Reel what in? What in the last few weeks provides you evidence that might just have run out of steam this season. I know we are on a journey, and that journey won’t always be smooth. This is the bumpy part.
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Grealish on tinder. woah wooo.....
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Grealish texting his agent.
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The stupid tactic of Mings and Konsa behind Emi for goal kicks is doing my nut in.
Isn't Emi carrying a slight injury?
He may have.But it puts us on the backfoot with too much pitch to make up.
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Fuck this ref
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Davis is the right choice. He might not be a goal threat but he can get hold of the ball.
Really poor second half. The goal threat really has dried up badly
We need goals but Davis is the right choice? I'm not sure him getting hold of the ball will amount to anything but let's see.
We need to get hold of the ball and keep it in their half. There isn't anyone else on the bench offering goals and I don't think Trez was an imminent threat either.
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This is as bad a half as I’ve seen since the last bad half.
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Great tackle by Davis on McGinn there
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As usual the substitutions do nothing for us.
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Konsa's a great player but that short tug was stupid and unnecessary.
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I think I’d take a 0-0 now
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We’re not quite right yet are we?
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At least we're not Leeds.
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I'll take a 1-0 from this corner.
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Mings has done his hamstring
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'kinnel.
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Three potentially significant injuries in this game - not good.
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Jarred his knee
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Bollocks.
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He's holding his knee. Ugh, come on Tyrone.
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We’ve been really poor on the second half. Really aimless.
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A Davis winner of his backside please
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Hopefully wolves go to sleep waiting for this corner
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Might be seeing Engels at Newcastle.
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Fucking hell
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Has to score
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BOLLOCKS!!!!!
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How much does Konsa trouser per week? ;-)
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Fucking hell Elmo.
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Oh bollocks. Cows arse banjo
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need to sort these spells of being gash. We are a one man team and we have been found out. Very poor
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Way over the top
Agreed. TV reel it in, we are on a journey, it will be bumpy but it’s going in the right direction. We have some fantastic kids to come though and we are the youngest team in the league. It’s only going to get better
Reel what in? What in the last few weeks provides you evidence that might just have run out of steam this season. I know we are on a journey, and that journey won’t always be smooth. This is the bumpy part.
Thankfully we have enough points on the board as I see this season petering out after so much promise ...Smith has done well to get us up and stay up but is he the man to take us to the next level ? Despite a few good results this season he is constantly out thought by other coaches
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Fair result.
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I think a few people on here need to stop being drama queens and realise how much better we are than we were last season. We are ninth, three points behind Liverpool, two points behind Spurs and two points above Arsenal.
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Fair result.
Yep.
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Indeed
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I think a few people on here need to stop being drama queens and realise how much better we are than we were last season. We are ninth, three points behind Liverpool, two points behind Spurs and two points above Arsenal.
Absolutely 100%. Wholeheartedly yes.
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Shit 2nd half
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Way over the top
Seems a perfectly reasonable assessment to me. What do you think this squad of players is? Champions League certainties?
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As I’m sure the management realise, another striking option is a priority in the summer.
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Point gained on last seasons result. Draw probably fair over 90 mins, Sanson looked good, defense and keeper good, Ramsey full of energy when on, Barkley barely looks mobile and lumping balls to Davis didn’t work at end. 40 points and still a lot to play for.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Way over the top
Agreed. TV reel it in, we are on a journey, it will be bumpy but it’s going in the right direction. We have some fantastic kids to come though and we are the youngest team in the league. It’s only going to get better
Reel what in? What in the last few weeks provides you evidence that might just have run out of steam this season. I know we are on a journey, and that journey won’t always be smooth. This is the bumpy part.
Thankfully we have enough points on the board as I see this season petering out after so much promise ...Smith has done well to get us up and stay up but is he the man to take us to the next level ? Despite a few good results this season he is constantly out thought by other coaches
Take out the good results and we're bad. That makes sense.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
100%
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As I’m sure the management realise, another striking option is a priority in the summer.
Oh Tammy! Tammy!
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
Way over the top
Agreed. TV reel it in, we are on a journey, it will be bumpy but it’s going in the right direction. We have some fantastic kids to come though and we are the youngest team in the league. It’s only going to get better
Reel what in? What in the last few weeks provides you evidence that might just have run out of steam this season. I know we are on a journey, and that journey won’t always be smooth. This is the bumpy part.
Thankfully we have enough points on the board as I see this season petering out after so much promise ...Smith has done well to get us up and stay up but is he the man to take us to the next level ? Despite a few good results this season he is constantly out thought by other coaches
But has also done the job on Belsay, Klopp, Nuno and Rodgers. Or do managers only get out thought when they're.in our dug out?
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
100%
It's been a decade since we were mid-table. Did you really expect anything better this season?
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
100%
I agree to a point but you wouldn't be saying that if Grealish and Cash were fit.
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It’s still good progress.
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It feels like this team has reached its ceiling. That with Jack we have a little more but without him we are entirely predictable. And the same with Dean Smith. Without better players he is also limited. He’s squeezed all he can out of this group. We will still win games and we have days like this but realistically this is now a mid table team at best.
100%
It's been a decade since we were mid-table. Did you really expect anything better this season?
No.
Injuries and lack of striker options were always going to hamper us eventually.
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We are having a rough period and struggling for goals but look on the bright side in the last 8 games we have scored 5 goals but taken 11 points.
All teams have a dip in form but we are winning games despite being below our best. I would love to see Dean start to blood the youngsters and give them game time and then have a clear out of Elmo, Taylor, Davis, Trez and El Ghazi while adding a couple more quality additions.
I am happy with our progress and the great thing is the back 5 are young and will continue to get better. Keep the faith folks.
UTV
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Seems a decent enough result to me. We nicked the first game against them with Jack and took a point off them without him. Without Jack's creativity and record for assists, not to mention his goals it was always going to be tough. 4 points from a possible 6 against them and limiting them to 1 against us is creditable I'd say.
Utv!