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Title: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 20, 2020, 10:07:11 PM
Read on.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2020/12/aston-villa-and-the-historical-precedents/
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: Rudy65 on December 20, 2020, 10:17:03 PM
A good read

I love that we are always on the front foot and attacking but also have the second best defensive record in the league. I think the top 6 is wide open this year and if we can keep our better players fit and add a couple of canny signings in January we might not be far away.

 Feels great to be a Villa fan again
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: jcsutv on December 20, 2020, 10:20:43 PM
Loved that closing comment Dave.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 20, 2020, 10:43:05 PM
Quote
Ninth in the table moving into the Christmas period, win just one of our games in hand and we go fourth.

Win both of our games in hand and we go second.
Would you bet against us ?
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: lovejoy on December 20, 2020, 11:33:21 PM
You got that out quickly.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 21, 2020, 01:13:33 AM
It isn't the oldest rivalry in league football. We played Wolves in our first ever league game, at the same time that Preston were playing Burnley.

https://www.worldfootball.net/all_matches/eng-premier-league-1888-1889/
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 21, 2020, 01:20:55 AM
I love this piece.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: JD on December 21, 2020, 02:18:49 AM
Fantastic read Dave. I am sure you held something back there  ;D
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: steamer on December 21, 2020, 06:18:26 AM
over the years how many players have been sent off in this fixture
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: robbo1874 on December 21, 2020, 08:24:22 AM
I also like reading your post-match summaries Dave.........when we win. You’re very fair and expose our frailties when we lose. But always well written if apparently a tad rushed sometimes. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: Ian. on December 21, 2020, 08:43:43 AM
Nice one Dave.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2020, 08:57:14 AM
It isn't the oldest rivalry in league football. We played Wolves in our first ever league game, at the same time that Preston were playing Burnley.

https://www.worldfootball.net/all_matches/eng-premier-league-1888-1889/

And neither of them are rivalries. Villa and Albion have been at it since way before the league was formed.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 21, 2020, 11:21:14 AM
Dave

is there any truth in the story about them desecrating William Mcgregors grave?
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2020, 01:08:19 PM
Dave

is there any truth in the story about them desecrating William Mcgregors grave?


None at all.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 21, 2020, 01:10:59 PM
Dave

is there any truth in the story about them desecrating William Mcgregors grave?


None at all.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2020, 01:24:05 PM
Dave

is there any truth in the story about them desecrating William Mcgregors grave?


None at all.
Thanks.

The one thing I will say about their supporters is that they tend to be peaceful enough. Sanctimonious, jealous, bitter and permanently hard-done to yes, but unlike Wolves at least you can talk to them without feeling that they're about to turn nasty. 
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 21, 2020, 01:25:09 PM
It isn't the oldest rivalry in league football. We played Wolves in our first ever league game, at the same time that Preston were playing Burnley.

https://www.worldfootball.net/all_matches/eng-premier-league-1888-1889/

And neither of them are rivalries. Villa and Albion have been at it since way before the league was formed.

If you don't count them as rivalries then Blackburn v Burnley is the oldest. You said the oldest in league history so assumed you were talking about the league. If not, then Sheffield v Hallam is the oldest rivalry.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2020, 01:29:14 PM
It isn't the oldest rivalry in league football. We played Wolves in our first ever league game, at the same time that Preston were playing Burnley.

https://www.worldfootball.net/all_matches/eng-premier-league-1888-1889/

And neither of them are rivalries. Villa and Albion have been at it since way before the league was formed.

If you don't count them as rivalries then Blackburn v Burnley is the oldest. You said the oldest in league history so assumed you were talking about the league. If not, then Sheffield v Hallam is the oldest rivalry.

Please don't be pedantic - it's so unlike you. This is the oldest rivalry between clubs who were rivals before the oldest league was formed.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 21, 2020, 01:30:48 PM
Pedantry is my oldest friend. Frivolity is my greatest rivalry.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: brian green on December 21, 2020, 01:42:35 PM
I did.  I planted some claret and blue tulips on it but the locals must have eaten them.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: Drummond on December 21, 2020, 01:49:42 PM
Dave, whilst I agree with every word, I'm disappointed that it's so balanced.

That really was the most routine of wins, it shows how much we've progressed I think.

Another note, I'm glad we have Martinez and not Johnstone.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: brian green on December 21, 2020, 01:49:53 PM
I was worried that some keen gardener, yes I am looking at you The Malandro, would work out that the light blue tulips were "Manchester City" and the claret ones were a variety called "Uncle Tom".  The latter almost certainly re named.  Uncle Albert perhaps.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: rob_bridge on December 21, 2020, 02:19:02 PM
Well I was in short trousers in late 70s so only have hazy memories but will gladly take the comparison based on results and performances and tales from elders.

Front foot stuff from the off last night - loved it especially the Bert and AEG who came in for a lot of criticism in recent weeks.

When they were below is for seemingly decades (most of my life)  I never thought of them as more than a bit of a nuisance neighbour but Christ that changed when Hodgson for starters made them half decent which irritatingly lasted for half a decade.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: darren woolley on December 21, 2020, 04:15:40 PM
A brilliant read Dave.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2020, 04:39:30 PM
A brilliant read Dave.

You make my day Daz.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: Risso on December 21, 2020, 06:01:09 PM
The point about consistency is a good one, we need to stop following up good victories with disappointing defeats or draws.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: ktvillan on December 21, 2020, 07:32:55 PM
It isn't the oldest rivalry in league football. We played Wolves in our first ever league game, at the same time that Preston were playing Burnley.

https://www.worldfootball.net/all_matches/eng-premier-league-1888-1889/

And neither of them are rivalries. Villa and Albion have been at it since way before the league was formed.

If you don't count them as rivalries then Blackburn v Burnley is the oldest. You said the oldest in league history so assumed you were talking about the league. If not, then Sheffield v Hallam is the oldest rivalry.

Please don't be pedantic - it's so unlike you. This is the oldest rivalry between clubs who were rivals before the oldest league was formed.

In terms of league rivalries it seems Albion also played Wolves twice before they played us.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 21, 2020, 07:37:11 PM
But they've only recently given a toss about each other.
Title: Re: Press-ing on triumphantly
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 21, 2020, 08:20:03 PM
Dave

is there any truth in the story about them desecrating William Mcgregors grave?


None at all.
Thanks.

The one thing I will say about their supporters is that they tend to be peaceful enough. Sanctimonious, jealous, bitter and permanently hard-done to yes, but unlike Wolves at least you can talk to them without feeling that they're about to turn nasty.
its one of those strange ones as on the occasions that I heard this claim it was from Baggies fans.
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