Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 08, 2020, 09:08:28 PM
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We can't just beat any side in this league, when we're on it we can humiliate any of them. For all the stuff after the previous 2 games, i'm convinced that there is not one side in the country that wants to face us at the moment. We're the side no one wants to play.
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Absolutely superb tonight. Deserved all of it and could have got more. Trez for me was outstanding and Ollie led the line so very well. But an all round outstanding performance. Well done Deano. Brilliantly tactical again against Arteta in three straight games if you count the friendly we also won.
Up to 6th. Onwards and upwards Villa boys and girls!!
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Merge mine please Mr Shin.
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Fucking marvellous- controlled, incisive, just brilliant. When the midfield works it’s irrepressible.
So happy for Ollie to get another two.
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Get in me babbies!
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Ace! Whats this, 18 goals in 7 games now?
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I need to miss more games. Lovely stuff.
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YESSSS!
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Fabulous performance and win. I love Villa :)
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Front 3 were excellent tonight.
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That was amazing. In a funny way I almost preferred that to the Liverpool humping.
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Merge mine please Mr Shin.
I quit as a mod ages ago, haven't you noticed!
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Wallop.
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What a season it's shaping up to be.
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I reckon this is the best we’ve looked since 1995/96.
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Can we play every Sunday at 7.15pm
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So which Aston Villa do we see next time out?
Apparently, that's the first time we've beaten Arsenal away by a three goal margin since 1928..
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Such an offensive surging force.Reminds me of '77
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Great stuff.
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Fantastic performance, well deserved and to me everybody stood out with a top display. Controlled the game for pretty much 80 minutes.
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Was that Grealish limping whilst walking off at the end?
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Su-fucking-perb.
FOUR stunning goals.
Jack MOTM 3 times over.
Dougie, brilliant.
Ollie, magnificent
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Im the most nervous ****** out there were Villa are concerned, never once felt like we would conceed though.
I blame myself for the last 2 results, put Martinez in my fantasy League team for Leeds and Southampton.
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Magnificent. Apart from a 10 min period of pressure from Arsenal ( which, you’d expect at home) we were brilliant.
Special mentions to Barkley, Trez and Watkins.
But then again Targett had a good game , back two solid, Mcginn back to where we want him, and jack was just, well Jack!!
I thought Martinez was quiet 😂
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Wonderful timing as well - lovely to go into the international break like that.
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The clean sheet is the most pleasing thing for me
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Fucking ace!
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Just watching the third goal again, brilliant, just brilliant.
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Well that was good. To use Maradona's idiom, we vaccinated them, I've got so many Arsenal friends and too many 'hahaha, we fucked yous' to use!
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Absolutely outstanding tonight all over the pitch. Just fantastic to watch. All the goals were pure class hard working all over just class
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Excellent to a man but big shout out for Trez.... turning into the bee Des Bremner....
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I honestly thoughty that was a better performance than Liverpool as iconic as that result was. Given thew VAR robbery and us messing up two late counter attacks we could've honestly scored 5 or 6 tonight.
This isn't a vintage Arsenal team but they did beat Man. United last week and have one of the best close range strikers in the league yet we limited them to hardly anything and had the air of top 6 team.
Brilliant effort from all to right the wrongs of last two results.
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The clean sheet is the most pleasing thing for me
Yep, I think they only had two shots on target. Much better than the last two games.
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It's all over. A thorough deserved victory from Aston Villa, who were excellent.
This is Arsenal's joint heaviest home defeat in the Premier League.
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Can I please make an announcement? If I start either the pre match or match thread we win. I did it for Liverpool. Leave it to me for the next game!
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Getting too old for dodgy streams, and not paying stupid PPV prices, very much looking forward to MOTD. Well done lads.
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'Villa could've scored more'
Arsenal 0-3 Aston Villa
Mark Schwarzer
Former Fulham keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live
Huge result for Aston Villa - totally deserving of the victory. 3-0 it was comfortable, it could've been more I was really impressed with their performance. Ollie Watkins, Jack Grealish, Ross Barkley were all excellent but the whole team were superb.
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This Sunday night kickoff time is our slot. Let's keep it until the end of the season.
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I reckon this is the best we’ve looked since 1995/96.
Probably first time since mid 90s aswell you'd look at our team and Arsenal's and think nah I wouldn't have 8-9 of their players compared to ours.
We've already got the better of the two keepers who played tonight.
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Win our game in hand to take our rightful place
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When Doug and JM play well we thrive.
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Wow what a game.
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Stunning performance honestly, the better team from start to finish against what is a very good Arsenal side based on this season's evidence. A fine response to the last two games, we absolutely fucked them.
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Fucking brilliant. Well done to all of the players, that was a great response to the previous two games. Much more disciplined, and it gave us a better platform.
Trez is quickly becoming a Hutton-style cult hero. Absolutely works his little cotton socks off, exemplary attitude.
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Really we could have had 7 tonight.
Apart from one flashing across the goal in the first half, I don’t remember Emi making a save.
And I agree. A more impressive result than the Liverpool game.
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Were gonna have more games like Leeds and Southampton but we'll have more games like Fulham, Liverpool and this. We're in for a fucking great season.
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Fuckin brilliant from start to finish. I’m loving being a Villa fan right now!
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Wow what a result! One of the most complete performance in years. We absolutely murdered them. It could and should have been 5 or 6. Grealish was superb. The best player on the park by a mile. Well done lads!
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Superb all round performance. No complaints at all, even the first one was probably offside....
Watkins getting in the right place, Barkley driving forward, creative, Grealish was just brilliant.
Love this team and staff.
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I reckon this is the best we’ve looked since 1995/96.
And that was coming after a season when we narrowly avoided the drop.
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Can I please make an announcement? If I start either the pre match or match thread we win. I did it for Liverpool. Leave it to me for the next game!
All yours. Remind me to miss proceedings as well.
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Well that was good. To use Maradona's idiom, we vaccinated them, I've got so many Arsenal friends and too many 'hahaha, we fucked yous' to use!
Welcome back SE, did you hear, the search parties have been out? A great result tonight, well done Villa.
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Wow. What a performance!! Especially after 2 defeats. Very impressive.
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Superb tonight
Every player did great.
We are putting these big clubs to the sword now.
Think this is a special team coming together.
Well done Deano
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Well that was good. To use Maradona's idiom, we vaccinated them, I've got so many Arsenal friends and too many 'hahaha, we fucked yous' to use!
Welcome back SE, did you hear, the search parties have been out? A great result tonight, well done Villa.
Thanks Dave. I had no idea about the concerned strangers but I'm happy to confirm that I was just chillin' with Shannon Matthews!
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Just watching the third goal again, brilliant, just brilliant.
What struck me today and very specifically about that goal is Jack playing Ollie into space. But he did that all game. Jack linked up the play so much more and didn’t try to do it all himself.
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To the tune of the Jonathan Kodjia song......
Ooohhhh Sawiris and Edens....
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Brilliant win and brilliant performance we could have scored three or four more I'm over the moon with tonight's win.
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Brilliant Villa absolutely brilliant
UP THE VILLA
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Rot stopped, spectacularly.
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All the Arsenal Tarquin's phoning 5Live calling for Arteta's head. ;D
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'Villa could've scored more'
Arsenal 0-3 Aston Villa
Mark Schwarzer
Former Fulham keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live
Huge result for Aston Villa - totally deserving of the victory. 3-0 it was comfortable, it could've been more I was really impressed with their performance. Ollie Watkins, Jack Grealish, Ross Barkley were all excellent but the whole team were superb.
McManaman and Owen are both saying it could have been 5 or 6-0 and that we battered them. Owen has just said that not only would he be picking Grealish for England but he would be building the team around him.
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That was amazing. In a funny way I almost preferred that to the Liverpool humping.
I'm the same....a lot more controlled tonight. Once we got the second it was over and only a question on how much we would win by. Targett was very good again to be fair. Jack still our best, Watkins and Barkley ran him close. Was so happy to see us play with McGinn next to Luiz. A lot better balanced as a result. Dean Smith tactical masterclass
Martinez 7, Cash 8, Konsa 7, Mings 6, Targett 8, Luiz 7, McGinn 8, Trez 8, Grealish 9, Barkley 8, Watkins 8. AEG 6.
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'I think I have another level to reach'
Ollie Watkins. I love this bloke already.
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Brilliant Villa! That's 7 away goals in 3 games and none conceded!
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These players have us 3 points off top with a game in hand.
Just imagine where we could have been with Bielsa in charge.
Checks table..... ;D ;D ;D
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Exciting times and once again on a Sunday night the Villa are sending me to bed buzzing and on a high when I have to be up at 4.15 am! Truly wonderful night.
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I think thats the most in control we have been all season, Sheff Utd was comfortable but against 10, Fulham was comfortable but they got crosses into our box for fun, Liverpool was fucking ridiculous and Leicester was tight.
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That was amazing. In a funny way I almost preferred that to the Liverpool humping.
I'm the same....a lot more controlled tonight. Once we got the second it was over and only a question on how much we would win by. Targett was very good again to be fair. Jack still our best, Watkins and Barkley ran him close. Was so happy to see us play with McGinn next to Luiz. A lot better balanced as a result. Dean Smith tactical masterclass
Martinez 7, Cash 8, Konsa 7, Mings 6, Targett 8, Luiz 7, McGinn 8, Trez 8, Grealish 9, Barkley 8, Watkins 8. AEG 6.
I agree that the formation was better and I can't fault anyone as they all played well and reached a very high level. It was unrecognisable from the two catastrophic halves against Leeds and Southampton.
I still think the win over Liverpool was better if only because it was Liverpool.
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Biden
Villa Ladies
Villa
Fucking great weekend. 😃😃😃😃
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We beat Woolwich Arsenal and Ian Darke and Andy Townsend.
They were condescending, dismissive, disrespectful and disparaging towards us, viewing the game from an Arsenal point of view. Until the second goal when they started gushing about us as if the game had suddenly turned and we hadn't been in it.
Piss poor.
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Barkley > Drinkwater
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Nice to have a forward who peaks for the big games.
Expecting him to rattle in six past De Gea to end the Man. United VP hoodoo whenever we play them.
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I so want to beat that rabble
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Villa win and Trump dumped.
Fantastic weekend. In that order.
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When Luiz, McGinn, Barkley, and Grealish click, we look unbeatable. Chuck in a couple of fine performances from Trez (love the guy) and Targett with Watkins holding things up so well and we are going places. Oh, and I forgot to mention Konsa with a couple of great blocks. oh sod it! Mings and Cash as well - have I mentioned everyone. Martinez average - i mean what exactly did he do!
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Barkley > Drinkwater
Me, you and everyone else > Drinkwater
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I really fancied us before the game, we do seem to do well against teams like that. Some really good performances tonight but Tres just ran his arse off and at the moment, Jack really is one of the best in Europe at what he does.
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We beat Woolwich Arsenal and Ian Darke and Andy Townsend.
They were condescending, dismissive, disrespectful and disparaging towards us, viewing the game from an Arsenal point of view. Until the second goal when they started gushing about us as if the game had suddenly turned and we hadn't been in it.
Piss poor.
Harsh on Townsend who speaks well of us.
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Now that is a proper team performance.
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'Villa could've scored more'
Arsenal 0-3 Aston Villa
Mark Schwarzer
Former Fulham keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live
Huge result for Aston Villa - totally deserving of the victory. 3-0 it was comfortable, it could've been more I was really impressed with their performance. Ollie Watkins, Jack Grealish, Ross Barkley were all excellent but the whole team were superb.
McManaman and Owen are both saying it could have been 5 or 6-0 and that we battered them. Owen has just said that not only would he be picking Grealish for England but he would be building the team around him.
Philippe Auclair said the same thing about Grealish on Football Weekly a few weeks ago.
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'Villa could've scored more'
Arsenal 0-3 Aston Villa
Mark Schwarzer
Former Fulham keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live
Huge result for Aston Villa - totally deserving of the victory. 3-0 it was comfortable, it could've been more I was really impressed with their performance. Ollie Watkins, Jack Grealish, Ross Barkley were all excellent but the whole team were superb.
McManaman and Owen are both saying it could have been 5 or 6-0 and that we battered them. Owen has just said that not only would he be picking Grealish for England but he would be building the team around him.
Andy Townsend was great on co-commentary on my stream. Commentator kept baiting him on Southgate throughout the game and why wasn't Jack an England regular.... For a finish, Townsend made a mockery of Southgate recent comment about Jack "moving up the list"....must see if I can find it...
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Brilliant. Cannot fault any of that. Pity there is an international break.
Leeds 15th. - ha ha
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Watkins, the ball seems to stick. Yet, he’s not the traditional build of your target man. The lad seems like a right gem, doesn’t seem to have a Billy big bollocks attitude or anything. Great to see
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Magnificent performance to a man. All 9/10.
What a weekend, with the other news too! Hooray!
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Trump gets battered yesterday, Villa batter Arsenal tonight. I don’t want this weekend to stop it’s just great. We played our best performance in a long long time, every one of them played their part. Jack was immense and the link up with Ross tonight is going to get better.
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Just watching the third goal again, brilliant, just brilliant.
Jack’s pace and had the power and skill to still perfectly weight the pass to Ollie despite the attempted shove from Bellerin He’s a strong boy is our Jack
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Player ratings
Martínez 10
Cash 10
Konsa 10
Mings 10
Targett 10
Douglas Luiz 10
McGinn 10
Trézéguet 10
Barkley 10
Grealish 11
Watkins 10
Taylor 10
Steer 10
Hourihane 10
Nakamba 10
El Ghazi 10
El Mohamady 10
Davis 10
Smith 10
Coaches 10
Physios 10
Kit men 10
Coach driver 10
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We beat Woolwich Arsenal and Ian Darke and Andy Townsend.
They were condescending, dismissive, disrespectful and disparaging towards us, viewing the game from an Arsenal point of view. Until the second goal when they started gushing about us as if the game had suddenly turned and we hadn't been in it.
Piss poor.
Harsh on Townsend who speaks well of us.
You obviously didn't have the misfortune of his *ahem* punditry tonight then.
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Biden
Villa Ladies
Villa
Fucking great weekend. 😃😃😃😃
If Carlsberg made weekends......
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I thought Trez had a great game too. He works so hard.
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Carlsberg need to make good lager to start with
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12128122/villa-thrash-arsenal-at-the-emirates
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Seems like we play well when Barkley plays well. He was awesome tonight. Great telepathy with Grealish, it's like they're from the same womb.
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I thought Trez had a great game too. He works so hard.
His work rate since lockdown 1 has been brilliant. Wonder if he’s had a kick up the arse.
El Ghazi take note
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It really is nice to be competitive; it makes the Leeds and Southampton games that much more infuriating (though, to be fair, Southampton are a solid team), but it is nice to go into a game feeling like a win is not an impossibility. Well done tonight!
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Seems like we play well when Barkley plays well. He was awesome tonight. Great telepathy with Grealish, it's like they're from the same womb.
Barkley, Grealish and Targett link up very well together. We just need to play against teams that allow us a bit of space between them. Southampton didn’t and we struggled. Great team play tonight
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McGinn sitting 15 yards deeper is the difference - gives us more protection of the back 4 and as has been said already that performance, in some ways, was better than the Liverpool one.
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Piers Morgan your boys took a hell of a beating.
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McGinn sitting 15 yards deeper is the difference - gives us more protection of the back 4 and as has been said already that performance, in some ways, was better than the Liverpool one.
Apparently a change made at HT vs Southampton where he switched positions with Barkley.
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How annoying that we can’t beat the small teams like Leeds.
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McGinn sitting 15 yards deeper is the difference - gives us more protection of the back 4 and as has been said already that performance, in some ways, was better than the Liverpool one.
All 4 goals tonight were of high quality.
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As brilliant as tonight was, it's exactly what I wanted to see change this season - the mentality against the top six. I never want to see us line up hoping to grab a point and losing all the same. Grealish seems to have adjusted his mindset now he's at international level, almost wanting to revel in the fact he's elite, and this is having a huge effect on the squad. Him and Barkley are having a whale of a time.
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I'll be honest despite our first four results I feared that the last two home games would knock us back and we'd find Arsenal really tough. Wow, how wrong can you be!
What a sensational effort from the entire team. As has been said in many ways a more impressive performance than Liverpool.
Just a fantastic night. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
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He's probably had better weekends.
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I thought Trez had a great game too. He works so hard.
His work rate since lockdown 1 has been brilliant. Wonder if he’s had a kick up the arse.
El Ghazi take note
AEG ran about 50 yards back and dispossessed one of their players at the edge of our box near the end. Couldn't believe it
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Trez was excellent in the run in last season.
A little wander over to the Small Time Alliance thread uncovered this gem about us this evening -
"On their day they're capable of beating anyone. They are frighteningly good and an absolute effing universe ahead of us"
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Terrific result tonight and takes us nicely into the international break sitting 6th in the table. Do wonder if we are going to be better away from home this season, when the onus is on the home side to attack and we can concentrate on being nice and solid and hitting teams on the break with the quality we have in the final third
Fixtures after the international break look pretty decent on paper up to Boxing Day.
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Barkley > Drinkwater
Hard to believe Drinkwater was playing in this team this calendar year.
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Credit to Targett who has looked much better recently.
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'Difference with Arsenal and the rest of the "big" sides is they regularly just don't turn up and often get totally outplayed by lower league teams. Total lottery what you're going to get.
Nigel'
So we're lower league now. Haha, fuck off Arsenal.
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That's our best start to a season away from home - 3 wins - since the Wartime Football League (North) in 1943, but on that occasion we only had to beat Stoke, Wolves and Walsall! We went on to win a 4th at Coventry.
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Got to be up at 4.15 but absolutely buzzing. Great times again.
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Apart from the obvious choices, I have to say Trez, Konsa and SJM were magnificent tonight.
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Trez was excellent in the run in last season.
A little wander over to the Small Time Alliance thread uncovered this gem about us this evening -
"On their day they're capable of beating anyone. They are frighteningly good and an absolute effing universe ahead of us"
Obviously paid £15 in the hope of seeing us lose.
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We beat Woolwich Arsenal and Ian Darke and Andy Townsend.
They were condescending, dismissive, disrespectful and disparaging towards us, viewing the game from an Arsenal point of view. Until the second goal when they started gushing about us as if the game had suddenly turned and we hadn't been in it.
Piss poor.
Harsh on Townsend who speaks well of us.
Agreed. Townsend supports us I think. He knows every detail of our season - ok, it’s his job, but everything he said was spot on.
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Credit to Targett who has looked much better recently.
Agree with this. I have crucified him in the past, but he has been quite decent of late.
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Great win that----well done all----listened to WM and tuned onto Sky----where Darius Vassell was match commentator----he was luvving it!!
was southgate watching??? i very much doubt it----Obviously Jack and Mings---but Barclay--and Olly surely must be knocking.
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We beat Woolwich Arsenal and Ian Darke and Andy Townsend.
They were condescending, dismissive, disrespectful and disparaging towards us, viewing the game from an Arsenal point of view. Until the second goal when they started gushing about us as if the game had suddenly turned and we hadn't been in it.
Piss poor.
Harsh on Townsend who speaks well of us.
You obviously didn't have the misfortune of his *ahem* punditry tonight then.
The most condescending comment came from Ian Darke "no side has ever been relegated after winning their first four games" We were making Arsenal look like mugs and he talks about us like relegation fodder. Cheeky bastard.
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Targett played well tonight - Cash is the one that has been singled out by the opposition in the last few games.
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We beat Woolwich Arsenal and Ian Darke and Andy Townsend.
They were condescending, dismissive, disrespectful and disparaging towards us, viewing the game from an Arsenal point of view. Until the second goal when they started gushing about us as if the game had suddenly turned and we hadn't been in it.
Piss poor.
Harsh on Townsend who speaks well of us.
Agreed. Townsend supports us I think. He knows every detail of our season - ok, it’s his job, but everything he said was spot on.
Not harsh at all. He had a real boner against us tonight.
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'Villa could've scored more'
Arsenal 0-3 Aston Villa
Mark Schwarzer
Former Fulham keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live
Huge result for Aston Villa - totally deserving of the victory. 3-0 it was comfortable, it could've been more I was really impressed with their performance. Ollie Watkins, Jack Grealish, Ross Barkley were all excellent but the whole team were superb.
McManaman and Owen are both saying it could have been 5 or 6-0 and that we battered them. Owen has just said that not only would he be picking Grealish for England but he would be building the team around him.
They were complimentary but I didn’t agree with one comment made by Owen. He was very positive about our signings this summer but then went on to say what do we have to show for all the money we spent last summer. I’d remind him that went on the likes of Mings, Targett, Konsa, Luiz and Trez from today’s team. So no at all a waste as he was suggesting. They have all matured into better players for last seasons experience.
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Routine win...... next
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Doug was magnificent tonight
not going to grab the headlines but I thought he controlled the game for us
just a class player
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Just wish we could be all be in the ground to see these performances. Imagine being there when we scored the third. Super
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What a fantastic performance. Every single player was excellent tonight. One for the archives. Loved it.
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37.5% too 40 points already. Fucking hell.
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We are the third side in Premier League history to win each of their first three away games in a season without conceding a goal, after Chelsea in 2005-06 and Manchester City in 2015-16
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'Villa could've scored more'
Arsenal 0-3 Aston Villa
Mark Schwarzer
Former Fulham keeper on BBC Radio 5 Live
Huge result for Aston Villa - totally deserving of the victory. 3-0 it was comfortable, it could've been more I was really impressed with their performance. Ollie Watkins, Jack Grealish, Ross Barkley were all excellent but the whole team were superb.
McManaman and Owen are both saying it could have been 5 or 6-0 and that we battered them. Owen has just said that not only would he be picking Grealish for England but he would be building the team around him.
They were complimentary but I didn’t agree with one comment made by Owen. He was very positive about our signings this summer but then went on to say what do we have to show for all the money we spent last summer. I’d remind him that went on the likes of Mings, Targett, Konsa, Luiz and Trez from today’s team. So no at all a waste as he was suggesting. They have all matured into better players for last seasons experience.
Also Heaton and Wes had major injuries representing £30 million of the money spent
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Doug was magnificent tonight
not going to grab the headlines but I thought he controlled the game for us
just a class player
Agreed John, he was superb. He makes us tick and when he ventures forward he gives us an extra attacking dimension.
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Ollie Watkins is going to be some player for us.
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Douglas is fucking brilliant.
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I've gone mad and 'liked' a Piers Morgan Tweet tonight.
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We went down on 17 points - think we'll be ok this time around.
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So much to admire about that TEAM performance. I'll just mention players who have been criticised/under pressure (Matty Cash, Targett, Trez); all performed admirably. I love how we don't try to shut up shop and keep going forward. This against the Premier League's erstwhile "best defence".
Some of the interplay (eg the first goal) is a delight to watch.
So it's 15 points from 7 games...at this rate we'll finish with 81!
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Piers Morgan
@piersmorgan
1h
We've won this match, by a LOT!
#AFCvAVFC
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I did post in the week that I thought we had a good chance of getting something out of this match but, not expecting the fantastic performance all the lads put in. Unlike previous seasons, I don’t fear any team before a match. Such an unusual experience given the last few years. Long may it go on.
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Biden
Villa Ladies
Villa
Fucking great weekend. 😃😃😃😃
No mention of Clyde? ;)
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I got the margin of victory right!
Them 1 Us 4
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Such an offensive surging force.Reminds me of '77
Cheers, was going to ask if this reminds people of 76/77 i.e. a side finding its feet with some great attacking performances alongside some inconsistent results.
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Such an offensive surging force.Reminds me of '77
Cheers, was going to ask if this reminds people of 76/77 i.e. a side finding its feet with some great attacking performances alongside some inconsistent results.
We seem to have addressed the away issues of that season.
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Arsenal Fan TV is hilarious. Some classic comedy of some geezers going beserk as each goal goes in. Nice to see Villa upsetting other fans in the top flight these days.
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He's probably had better weekends.
Absolute human garbage.
Trump is an arsehole as well.
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Great team performance.
But Grealish is just such a wonderfully talented footballer. Head & shoulders above everyone.
It won't work every week but after 10 years in the wilderness, we're heading in the right direction.
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Arsenal Fan TV is hilarious. Some classic comedy of some geezers going beserk as each goal goes in. Nice to see Villa upsetting other fans in the top flight these days.
https://twitter.com/scuderia_sge/status/1325543562117869569?s=20
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Credit to Targett who has looked much better recently.
Agree with this. I have crucified him in the past, but he has been quite decent of late.
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I'd still like to see better competition in that position - more athleticism and pace.
But Targett has looked fitter recently. He seems the sort who needs to stay on top of that. When he does, the natural ability he has on the ball comes out.
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Arsenal Fan TV is hilarious. Some classic comedy of some geezers going beserk as each goal goes in. Nice to see Villa upsetting other fans in the top flight these days.
I’ve watched a few minutes and it’s absolutely joyous viewing.
“I’m driving down to the fucking ground” is my favourite! To do what exactly?!
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So many great partnerships forging through the team.
Trez working his socks off to help Cash – who looked so much better after the last two.
McGinn sitting deeper to allow Barkley to push on.
Konsa and Mings not afraid to step out of defence with the ball, and Luiz or McGinn dropping in to fill the gap.
Targett and Grealish doing what they do best down the left.
Watkins making the ball stick and bringing others into play.
What I'd have given to have spent the afternoon drinking in the Faltering Fullback, before ambling over to the away end tonight.
Some great stats on BBC too:
Aston Villa have won each of their first three away league games in a season for the first time in their history.
This was Arsenal's worst home league defeat since December 2019 versus Manchester City (also 3-0).
Only Chelsea (five) have won more away league games than Aston Villa (four) at the Emirates Stadium.
Aston Villa are the third side in Premier League history to win each of their first three away games in a season without conceding a goal, after Chelsea in 2005-06 and Manchester City in 2015-16.
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang failed to take a single shot today - it is the first time he's played the full 90 minutes in a home Premier League match for Arsenal without attempting a shot.
Ollie Watkins has scored six goals in seven games for Aston Villa in the Premier League this season - only Dean Saunders (seven) and Dion Dublin (nine) have ever netted more in their first seven appearances for Villa in the competition.
Aged 19 years and 64 days, Arsenal's Bukayo Saka became the fourth-youngest player to score an own goal in the Premier League, and youngest since Southampton's Martin Cranie in May 2004 (17 years, 218 days versus Chelsea).
Aston Villa's Jack Grealish has been directly involved in nine league goals this season (four goals and five assists) - only Spurs pair Harry Kane (15) and Son Heung-min (10) have been involved in more Premier League goals.
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At some point in the second half, it was like the team collectively said, ok we have got this and went ahead and took the game.
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Wonderful performance. UTV
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No Engels on the bench? Hopefully not injured again?
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Who the bollocks keeps records like that?
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AFTV, volume low if you have kids
https://twitter.com/MPH1982/status/1325558430132809730
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One tiny criticism - it’s 3-0 with a few minutes to go - give the likes of Conor a few mins. The squad players need to feel involved. I know AEG came on, but I would have used the other two sub slots.
As I say it’s a tiny criticism in what is a fantastic effort from all, but just think it was the right opportunity.
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I got the margin of victory right!
Them 1 Us 4
That was our shit half.
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I also have a tiny criticism. Why didn't Barry take the penalty ?
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I think I saw a stat to say we have the youngest premier league squad. Great potential for this side if that is the case.
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Great performance. Interplay between grealish, barklay and Targett for the first goal is class, the luiz cross field pass, barklay first time volley cross Watkins header was class, Martinez to grealish to Watkins class.
And everyone else was just class as well, beer and MOTD2 to finish off the weekend, and the fat orange twat lost the election. Just class
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Well well, first up on MOTD I see....
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Martinez, 28 was our oldest player today. Taylor and Elmo are the only outfield players in the squad over 30, Hotlips will join them in a few months.
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I think I saw a stat to say we have the youngest premier league squad. Great potential for this side if that is the case.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/altersschnitt/wettbewerb/GB1
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We beat Woolwich Arsenal and Ian Darke and Andy Townsend.
They were condescending, dismissive, disrespectful and disparaging towards us, viewing the game from an Arsenal point of view. Until the second goal when they started gushing about us as if the game had suddenly turned and we hadn't been in it.
Piss poor.
Harsh on Townsend who speaks well of us.
You obviously didn't have the misfortune of his *ahem* punditry tonight then.
The most condescending comment came from Ian Darke "no side has ever been relegated after winning their first four games" We were making Arsenal look like mugs and he talks about us like relegation fodder. Cheeky bastard.
Townsend made me laugh late on when he went on about Southgate saying that Jack was making his way up the pecking order and said with incredulity "what pecking order?".
This was when we were the team outplaying Arsenal with style and panache rather than the team looking to spring a shock and scrape a win.
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Another big win and just such a joy to watch, despite the best efforts of VAR to suck the remaining embers of enjoyment out of the game. Great team performance but hard not to pick out Jack - we truly are witnessing greatness there.
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Ian Wright on MOTD2; "If Villa were walking down the road, they'd be John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever"
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How nice is that to turn over and see Shearer gushing all over us.
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What a weekend. It doesn’t get much better than this , especially as our kid is a Gooner.
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How nice is that to turn over and see Shearer gushing all over us.
He always does to be fair. Then again he gave the Holte End a wave even when he was managing a relegation of The Toon. Think he genuinely likes us.
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How nice is that to turn over and see Shearer gushing all over us.
Dry humping us more like.
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How nice is that to turn over and see Shearer gushing all over us.
Reminds me of a commentary piece Arsenal v Newcastle once. The commentator said "As Shearer turned around Seaman was all over his face".
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What a weekend. It doesn’t get much better than this , especially as our kid is a Gooner.
He said that his uncle Baz and his Grandad won't be happy with him as they are Arsenal fans. I reckon they will be delighted for their boy.
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Just seen the highlights on MOTD 2. Thankfully didn't matter in the end, but from the one cursory replay of the 'non-goal' it showed from behind McGinn, it didn't really look like Barkley was in Leno's eyeline. Looked like he had a decent sight of it.
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One tiny criticism - it’s 3-0 with a few minutes to go - give the likes of Conor a few mins. The squad players need to feel involved. I know AEG came on, but I would have used the other two sub slots.
As I say it’s a tiny criticism in what is a fantastic effort from all, but just think it was the right opportunity.
Agree with thus. Being 3 up before 80 minutes ideal time to ease the work of jack, Luiz etc and give some minutes to Davis / Hourihane
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Goal should have stood anyway as no way was Leno stopping that shot.
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Whilst watching live I thought Arsenal looked very poor - but watching highlights back I think I underestimated hoe well we were playing. We played some really good stuff and the goals were all very high quality build ups and finishes. A great way to bounce back from two defeats. Well done Dean and the lads.
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Trump gets battered yesterday, Villa batter Arsenal tonight. I don’t want this weekend to stop it’s just great. We played our best performance in a long long time, every one of them played their part. Jack was immense and the link up with Ross tonight is going to get better.
And I’m not working next week, so an extra couple of drinks tonight!
It really was a complete team performance, really trying hard not to get carried away.
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Trump gets battered yesterday, Villa batter Arsenal tonight. I don’t want this weekend to stop it’s just great. We played our best performance in a long long time, every one of them played their part. Jack was immense and the link up with Ross tonight is going to get better.
No. Get carried away...We are not going down!!!!
And I’m not working next week, so an extra couple of drinks tonight!
It really was a complete team performance, really trying hard not to get carried away.
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We've got an "attractive" run of games coming up:
Brighton H 22 Nov
WHU A 30 Nov
Newcastle H 5 Dec
Wolves A 12 Dec
Burnley H 15 Dec
WBA A 19 Dec
Palace H 26 Dec
We really should be looking to put a good run together against that lot.
21 points available.
Wonder how many we'll end up with?
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That was amazing. In a funny way I almost preferred that to the Liverpool humping.
I know what you mean. For me it's great to stick two fingers up to all those who were saying it was bubble burst for us after the last two games. We're a bloody good side this season and seem to have a perfect balance between defence and attack. Our only major worry is any injuries. If we can keep everyone fit we could have a really good season.
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Arsenal Fan TV is hilarious. Some classic comedy of some geezers going beserk as each goal goes in. Nice to see Villa upsetting other fans in the top flight these days.
I’ve watched a few minutes and it’s absolutely joyous viewing.
“I’m driving down to the fucking ground” is my favourite! To do what exactly?!
Return his library books of course.
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A comment in the Guardian:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking at the door in search of an equaliser. Crosses came and went. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard. At which point, they seemed to come to a crucial realisation. They were better than Arsenal. And so in a rampant, crushing climax, they set about proving it.
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We've beaten Arsenal twice in the space of nine games. Bostin.
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A comment in the Guardian:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking at the door in search of an equaliser. Crosses came and went. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard. At which point, they seemed to come to a crucial realisation. They were better than Arsenal. And so in a rampant, crushing climax, they set about proving it.
That’s like poetry. Love it
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A comment in the Guardian:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking at the door in search of an equaliser. Crosses came and went. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard. At which point, they seemed to come to a crucial realisation. They were better than Arsenal. And so in a rampant, crushing climax, they set about proving it.
Just a great quote!!
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A comment in the Guardian:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking at the door in search of an equaliser. Crosses came and went. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard. At which point, they seemed to come to a crucial realisation. They were better than Arsenal. And so in a rampant, crushing climax, they set about proving it.
Compare and contract - tonight and last season's defeat. That's learning on the job.
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Just wish we could be all be in the ground to see these performances. Imagine being there when we scored the third. Super
Don't mind this one. I've seen us win three times in about five trips to Emirates (and also a 5-0 defeat) so pretty spoilt there compared to our recent records at other big grounds.
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Nice wrap from Mark Chapman after the Arsenal v Villa game on MOTD II this evening.
But still same cringe performance in One Good, One Bad.
Piss off Chappers.
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I couldn’t be arsed to watch anymore of it after they’d finished our game analysis. Would have thought they’d have played us out to Saturday Night Fever...obviously not. That too good too bad thing is a load of wank.
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Just seen the highlights on MOTD 2. Thankfully didn't matter in the end, but from the one cursory replay of the 'non-goal' it showed from behind McGinn, it didn't really look like Barkley was in Leno's eyeline. Looked like he had a decent sight of it.
Compare and contrast with VAR letting Sterling's goal go last season when he essentially dummies in from an offside position.
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Watched game with brother-in-law who is an Arsenal fan. Despite storming off as the third went in, I asked him who he thought our best player was on the night. He picked out Douglas although had no clue what his name was. Think a lot of opposition fans will be noticing our Brazilian maestro this season!
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Just woke up in the Indian Ocean - and checked the result - wow!!! How ruckin happy (and lucky) am I. Wife thinks we are going to the beach - I’m downloading the game and getting the beers ready :)
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Just woke up in the Indian Ocean - and checked the result - wow!!! How ruckin happy (and lucky) am I. Wife thinks we are going to the beach - I’m downloading the game and getting the beers ready :)
Good man!
I had Bad English sending me updates about the WBA semi final on my honeymoon, in Alaska 😂
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A comment in the Guardian:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking at the door in search of an equaliser. Crosses came and went. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard. At which point, they seemed to come to a crucial realisation. They were better than Arsenal. And so in a rampant, crushing climax, they set about proving it.
Bit of a selective quote there. What it says in the paper:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking on the door in search of an equaliser. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard action. At which point, Dean Smith’s team seemed to come to a crucial collective realisation: they were better than Arsenal. Not better organised, or better drilled, but better in stark and absolute terms. And so in a crushing climax, they set about proving it.
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Just woke up in the Indian Ocean - and checked the result - wow!!! How ruckin happy (and lucky) am I. Wife thinks we are going to the beach - I’m downloading the game and getting the beers ready :)
Good man!
I had Bad English sending me updates about the WBA semi final on my honeymoon, in Alaska 😂
Everyone time it went in, I sent him a raucous message.
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Just woke up in the Indian Ocean
Fuck me! That's some victory bender you've been on.
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Suddenly Monday mornings don't feel so bad.
Very pleased.
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AFTV, volume low if you have kids
https://twitter.com/MPH1982/status/1325558430132809730
Long time since I watched Lord of the Rings. Nice to put a face to the voice of the orcs.
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their command of the English language is a joyto behold. Is Bert injured?
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Just woke up in the Indian Ocean
Fuck me! That's some victory bender you've been on.
(http://thefallen.uk/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif)
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AFTV, volume low if you have kids
https://twitter.com/MPH1982/status/1325558430132809730
Long time since I watched Lord of the Rings. Nice to put a face to the voice of the orcs.
"Feed 'em to th' pigs 'arold!" ;D
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Goal should have stood anyway as no way was Leno stopping that shot.
Goal should have stood anyway because I wanted it to. I'm happy to be biased.
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AFTV, volume low if you have kids
https://twitter.com/MPH1982/status/1325558430132809730
Long time since I watched Lord of the Rings. Nice to put a face to the voice of the orcs.
"Feed 'em to th' pigs 'arold!" ;D
Blimey they’re a charming bunch aren’t they.
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The bit about Bellerin eating a plant every 5 minutes..haha. Oh dear.
They make me watching Villa look serene.
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Only saw bits and pieces of the match and none of the goals yet as I was getting ready for work this morning. Knew it was 1-0 at half time and when I went to check the score on the guardian website they had a picture of an arsenal player having a shot which usually means they’re winning or just scored and I thought ‘bastards!’ Then saw the final score was 3-0 and nearly cheered out loud on the train! Will watch in full tonight. Bits I saw, arsenal looked average and we looked really good. Up the fkn VILLA !! Deano and the boys have MVGA... to borrow a catchphrase. Cheerio Donald. What a weekend!
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Pepe and Partey represent around £120 million in transfer fees alone and both are wank.
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Great result! Great goals (all 4 of them)! Great clean sheet! Get-in Villa!
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Pepe and Partey represent around £120 million in transfer fees alone and both are wank.
They’re not, just playing Villa when we’re on is very difficult.
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Just seen the highlights on MOTD 2. Thankfully didn't matter in the end, but from the one cursory replay of the 'non-goal' it showed from behind McGinn, it didn't really look like Barkley was in Leno's eyeline. Looked like he had a decent sight of it.
The law says: a player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched by a team-mate is only penalised if he prevents an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision.
There is no universe in which Barkley prevented Leno from playing the ball as even if Barkley hadn't have been stood there Leno wouldn't have got within a yard of the shot.
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looking forward to the Gooners coming into work today :)
thanks Villa
UTV
The Doc
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AFTV, volume low if you have kids
https://twitter.com/MPH1982/status/1325558430132809730
Long time since I watched Lord of the Rings. Nice to put a face to the voice of the orcs.
"Feed 'em to th' pigs 'arold!" ;D
Blimey they’re a charming bunch aren’t they.
Tbf it's the guy in green making them all look like idiots. The lads in the back row look embarrassed by his childish outbursts and gollum is trying his hardest to get a word in. Their reaction is the same as those Liverpool clips. They see us as relegation fodder there to be swept aside like yesterdays rubbish. They don't seem to have twigged yet that when we're in that mood we can be devastating with the ball and smash the best of them. Long may they continue to underestimate us.Fuck em all.
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Bit of a selective quote there. What it says in the paper:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking on the door in search of an equaliser. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard action. At which point, Dean Smith’s team seemed to come to a crucial collective realisation: they were better than Arsenal. Not better organised, or better drilled, but better in stark and absolute terms. And so in a crushing climax, they set about proving it.
Can't imagine Jonathan Liew is all that tearful, given he's a Spurs fan.
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They'm all cockerneys to me. ;-)
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And we hate cockneys...
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Watching our first goal again Grealish and Barkley are just taking the piss out of Arsenal in that corner of the pitch.
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Only decent thing Arsenal did last night was put a Villa crest up in the away end.
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To think, six months ago, we were sweating over a game in hand to escape relegation.
Today, we're sweating over a game in hand that could give us the title.
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Confidence & swagger oozing through the entire team. That ball from Luiz, the cross from Barkley, boom! Martinez release to Grealish and the ball in the net in what 7 or 8 seconds? Unreal. Grealish & Barkley taking the piss.
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Pepe and Partey represent around £120 million in transfer fees alone and both are wank.
I am suprised they took Partey off in the first half he looked ok , elneny looked ropey
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Pepe and Partey represent around £120 million in transfer fees alone and both are wank.
I am suprised they took Partey off in the first half he looked ok , elneny looked ropey
He was injured in that collision with Martinez apparently.
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Credit to Targett who has looked much better recently.
Agree with this. I have crucified him in the past, but he has been quite decent of late.
I'd still like to see better competition in that position - more athleticism and pace.
But Targett has looked fitter recently. He seems the sort who needs to stay on top of that. When he does, the natural ability he has on the ball comes out.
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I’ve never had a problem with Target
yes he’s made mistakes and given the ball away to much at times, mainly because he’s looking to move the ball forward imo, but he still offers even when not playing well
He’s learning his job and will become a consistent player at this level
put it this way I’ve never not even for a nano second ever thought
‘I’ll tell you what this is a game where we need to be dropping Target and putting Taylor in’
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Pepe and Partey represent around £120 million in transfer fees alone and both are wank.
I am suprised they took Partey off in the first half he looked ok , elneny looked ropey
Partay is exactly the sort of midfielder we could do with adding to give us a real alternative in there, I like him and thought our attacks looked a lot more effective once he wasn't there.
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8 minutes of highlights up now on the Villa website. Including, I'm glad to see, Grealish's attempt to slice Tierney in half with a football. Feck me, he hit that hard!
In the instant Watkins puts away his header, we were outnumbered 9-2 in their box. Yet from the moment the ball left Luiz' boot, did anyone doubt the outcome?
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It’s by no means a moan but, if Sako doesn’t stretch and put that Targett cross into his own net for the first goal, Trezeguet isn’t scoring that.
Trez is stumbling as the ball comes across and is pretty much on his knees as Sako slices it into the net.
I think that’s why he didn’t really celebrate.
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In the instant Watkins puts away his header, we were outnumbered 9-2 in their box. Yet from the moment the ball left Luiz' boot, did anyone doubt the outcome?
I didn't appreciate the skill in that goal at the time but, bloody hell, that was such a good goal. The pass from Luiz, the volleyed cross from Barkley and the bravery from Watkins. Wow!
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And that would have all happened in front of the away end. We'd still be in there celebrating it now.
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In the instant Watkins puts away his header, we were outnumbered 9-2 in their box. Yet from the moment the ball left Luiz' boot, did anyone doubt the outcome?
I didn't appreciate the skill in that goal at the time but, bloody hell, that was such a good goal. The pass from Luiz, the volleyed cross from Barkley and the bravery from Watkins. Wow!
Yeah absolutely fantastic technical goal.
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Watched the highlights again just now, we're so fucking good when we're on form.
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Pepe and Partey represent around £120 million in transfer fees alone and both are wank.
I am suprised they took Partey off in the first half he looked ok , elneny looked ropey
He was injured in that collision with Martinez apparently.
So Martinez tried to help his former team.
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It’s by no means a moan but, if Sako doesn’t stretch and put that Targett cross into his own net for the first goal, Trezeguet isn’t scoring that.
Trez is stumbling as the ball comes across and is pretty much on his knees as Sako slices it into the net.
Of course he scores that. The ball has basically been tackled into the net.
He stumbles and ends up on his knees because he's desperately trying to get around Saka's outstretched leg.
If his leg isn't there to put the ball in anyway, Trezeguet would have been able to just stroll up in his slippers and knock it in.
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All three goals were simply terrific. For the first, well done especially to Targett for the way he joined up with Grealish and Barkley to set up the goal; and for the second, what a great pass, cross and timing from Watkins to get in there for the header. My favourite though was the third, for the sense of adventure, and speed of thought and movement from the moment the ball was in Martinez's hands. And the way Grealish simply bounced the Arsenal defender out of the way as he dribbled through at such pace was a joy.
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A comment in the Guardian:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking at the door in search of an equaliser. Crosses came and went. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard. At which point, they seemed to come to a crucial realisation. They were better than Arsenal. And so in a rampant, crushing climax, they set about proving it.
Bit of a selective quote there. What it says in the paper:
The pivotal period of this game, you felt, came around an hour in. Arsenal were knocking on the door in search of an equaliser. Chances whistled past either post. For a while, it felt like Aston Villa might have to settle in for a long and painful rearguard action. At which point, Dean Smith’s team seemed to come to a crucial collective realisation: they were better than Arsenal. Not better organised, or better drilled, but better in stark and absolute terms. And so in a crushing climax, they set about proving it.
The journo has obviously edited it. My post was straight forward cut and paste at that time last night.
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It’s by no means a moan but, if Sako doesn’t stretch and put that Targett cross into his own net for the first goal, Trezeguet isn’t scoring that.
Trez is stumbling as the ball comes across and is pretty much on his knees as Sako slices it into the net.
Of course he scores that. The ball has basically been tackled into the net.
He stumbles and ends up on his knees because he's desperately trying to get around Saka's outstretched leg.
If his leg isn't there to put the ball in anyway, Trezeguet would have been able to just stroll up in his slippers and knock it in.
Agreed, had it gone through to Trezeguet and he'd missed it, Ronnie Rosenthal's effort would never be shown again.
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MOTD2 analysis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/54868137
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*Edit PWS post above
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I thought we were excellent.
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I think someone else alluded to it earlier that it would have been great if MOTD 2 finished the program to the 'Stayin Alive' song.
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I thought we were excellent.
I am glad you are not Paul Lambert. I am glad he is not Villa manager
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Captain Jack was absolutely brilliant, there's not a better midfielder in the country at the moment, he totally dominated Arsenal, they just couldn't handle him. Not one weak link last night, I've given Targett some stick in the past, but top drawer yesterday. Must give a mention to Konsa, he consistently performs at the highest level match after match.
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I watched the game last night and thought all 11 were excellent, had a look at the match thread on here to see comments like McGinn is playing abysmally, Matty Targett is struggling to kick the ball today, Cash is a worry. Just goes to show the many differnet views on a game of football.
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I thought every man was exceptional but special mention to
Martinez - speed of thought after taking the cross to set Jack on his way - could be the signing of then season
Targett - Gets stick often but plays so well with Jack and Barkley down that wing
Barkley - when he is on it he is pretty damn good and finds space no one else can
Trez Bremner - the name is the best compliment i can give him - pure engine
Watkins - thought he was quiet first half, 2nd half and came alive - most impressive is that at 3-0 up he was chasing back and helping out Targett .
But most of all - Jack - there is no better footballer in Europe at present i would rather be watching - i would pay money to watch him if i was not a Villa fan. When you have even inbred noses acknowledging how good he is it says something.
If Jack does not fit into Southgates system - change the fucking system
He is the best player of a generation - he has, quite simply, everything
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Fantastic performance. Just fantastic.
I keep looking at third bottom place in the league table to see how far we are from relegation.
I need to be more positive, our players clearly are.
Onwards and upwards :)
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I watched the game last night and thought all 11 were excellent, had a look at the match thread on here to see comments like McGinn is playing abysmally, Matty Targett is struggling to kick the ball today, Cash is a worry. Just goes to show the many differnet views on a game of football.
During games it probably the very worst time to make an objective holistic assessment. Too much emotion takes hold.
I have been to lots of games a neutral in my ground hopping days and much just easier to see who is having a good game.
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I can't believe how well a Championship striker and a Chelsea loanee have fitted in and improved our side. Luiz, Barkley, McGinn, Jack, Trez, Watkins were playing some exhibition stuff last night and really seem to have gelled. Targett also seems to be more confident.
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I’ve never had a problem with Target
... just the spelling of his name ... ;D
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MOTD2 analysis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/54868137
"Villa were John Travolta walking down the road today ...!" Brilliant!
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A really impressive part of this team is that every player is capable of carrying the ball. Jack of course is exceptional at this, but every other player can do it to some degree and means that we can turn defense into attack very rapidly from all areas of the pitch. Even the goalie plays on the front foot.
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But Targett has looked fitter recently.
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The difference to last season is that the WHOLE TEAM looks fitter. They look as fit in the 90th minute as the first minute.
Against Liverpool and last night we actually grew stronger the more the game went on. Makes hell of a difference when we
don't have the quality to bring off the bench.
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Slightly off topic but I really hope we take the FA Cup very seriously this year. With the fixture conjestion your Liverpools/Man Citys etc. will probably take it even less seriously than usual. We've already proven we can beat anybody in the country on our day and I think we'd have a real chance in it this season if we play the strongest possible side from round three.
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Even the goalie plays on the front foot.
When you have a goalie who can launch an attack like Martinez did last night, it's like having another outfield player on the pitch.
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Think the improved fitness and it was a problem seems to have been rectified since the arrival of Shakespeare ??
Awesome yesterday UTFV
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There was a cameo of Jack late in the game where he was surrounded by 3 Arsenal players and a quick drop of the shoulder and turn and he was away from them in a heartbeat - truly world class
He really does have everything - and he is ours ;D
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Slightly off topic but I really hope we take the FA Cup very seriously this year. With the fixture conjestion your Liverpools/Man Citys etc. will probably take it even less seriously than usual. We've already proven we can beat anybody in the country on our day and I think we'd have a real chance in it this season if we play the strongest possible side from round three.
The 3rd round is in the middle of a tough run of fixtures Chelsea, Man United and Spurs all around it.
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There was a cameo of Jack late in the game where he was surrounded by 3 Arsenal players and a quick drop of the shoulder and turn and he was away from them in a heartbeat - truly world class
He really does have everything - and he is ours ;D
As posted by the club on twitter just now. (https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1325782188516896768)
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There was a cameo of Jack late in the game where he was surrounded by 3 Arsenal players and a quick drop of the shoulder and turn and he was away from them in a heartbeat - truly world class
He really does have everything - and he is ours ;D
As posted by the club on twitter just now. (https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1325782188516896768)
My stream went down so I missed this, Christ almighty! It reminds me of a famous piece of skill Iniesta did against Gago and one other in that 6-2 Clasico in 2009.
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It's some thought that this team has one of, if not the lowest average ages in the league. They're only going to grow together more over the next few years, be added to and the youth structure is likely going to be adding to it over the next few years. Exciting times.
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https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/pl-arsenal-vs-aston-villa-sunday-8th-november-19-15-gmt-illegal-streams.34609/page-68
This is a fun read, lots of Arteta out callsand to be fair alot of them were shitting it even before kick off, Not sure if thats because of what they cant do or what we can do.
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Just been debating SJM's disallowed goal on Sky Sports, ex ref Dermott Gallagher has said correct decision, he thinks as Barkley interfered with Leno's vision, the fact that the goalie wouldn't have saved the shot is irrelevant. Bonkers
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It's some thought that this team has one of, if not the lowest average ages in the league. They're only going to grow together more over the next few years, be added to and the youth structure is likely going to be adding to it over the next few years. Exciting times.
... yeah, and with an exciting crop of youngsters to add into the mix as this current squad mature.
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Just been debating SJM's disallowed goal on Sky Sports, ex ref Dermott Gallagher has said correct decision, he thinks as Barkley interfered with Leno's vision, the fact that the goalie wouldn't have saved the shot is irrelevant. Bonkers
I thought it was offside. The rules can only judge if he is interferring with play, not if the goalie would save it. And he was definitely standing in line between McGinn and the goalkeeper. The problem I have is just Var. Even when it gets the decision right it destroys the fun and excitement of the game.
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AFTV, volume low if you have kids
https://twitter.com/MPH1982/status/1325558430132809730
Who knew Don Logan was an Arsenal fan.
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Slightly off topic but I really hope we take the FA Cup very seriously this year. With the fixture conjestion your Liverpools/Man Citys etc. will probably take it even less seriously than usual. We've already proven we can beat anybody in the country on our day and I think we'd have a real chance in it this season if we play the strongest possible side from round three.
The 3rd round is in the middle of a tough run of fixtures Chelsea, Man United and Spurs all around it.
What's tough about that? We're Aston Villa.
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1325531982495961089
We absolutely took the piss there.
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I watched the game last night and thought all 11 were excellent, had a look at the match thread on here to see comments like McGinn is playing abysmally, Matty Targett is struggling to kick the ball today, Cash is a worry. Just goes to show the many differnet views on a game of football.
While Jack, Barkley and Watkins take the headlines, for me it was the industry in midfield that put us on the front foot. SJM and Luiz especially were brilliant in breaking up play, when one tried and failed the other was there to put a foot in and take the ball, it was non-stop giving Arsenal very little time to build anything. Against Leeds and Southampton we couldn't get near them, last night we were in their faces, hunting in packs, just getting a toe on it before another Villa player was there to steal possession. Every 50/50, every second ball was ours, boy did they work hard not only physically but in supporting each other.
As others have mentioned, we looked so much fitter than the previous two games, none more so than SJM who looked sluggish but last night probably ran back to Brum as he had so much energy to spare. Overall, a brilliant team performance.
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I agree Mark. When watching good Premier League teams over the last fews when we've mostly been shit, I used to think that fast, incisive, skilful football with movement off the ball was from another planet. For too many years we've been slow, lacking in movement, even from a simple throw in, and a million years from the sort of football we watch the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal play. Last night we not only played football like that, we were actually better at it than they were. Much better in fact.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1325531982495961089
We absolutely took the piss there.
I've been a bit peed off that various highlight reels and shows didn't pick this move up from the very beginning.
There's a wonderful time-stopped-still moment where what looks like the entire arsenal side and half of ours are all stood completely motionless as Barkley holds the ball, the only movement in the entire scene being when Targett recognises his cue and bursts beyond them.
But do you know what, if we were in the ground, I guarantee I'd still have some tw*t near me going "STOP F*CKING ABOUT".
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Ita such a brilliant feeling sending my 5 year old off to school on the back of another brilliant result. Especially as his mates' teams, ManUre, Bindippers, Sheffields Utd and Weds are all a bit average (Bindippers against us at any rate).
I'd think we're becoming far more attractive a transfer proposal for players now too.
Just get in. I jumped off the sofa in delight when that 3rd went in, I felt it was safe then! We're on the way up.
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I agree Mark. When watching good Premier League teams over the last fews when we've mostly been shit, I used to think that fast, incisive, skilful football with movement off the ball was from another planet. For too many years we've been slow, lacking in movement, even from a simple throw in, and a million years from the sort of football we watch the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal play. Last night we not only played football like that, we were actually better at it than they were. Much better in fact.
Quite.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1325531982495961089
We absolutely took the piss there.
Explicit stuff, NSFW.
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
Absolutely not, they were shoulder-to-shoulder, that's always been part of the game. I moan about refs missing stuff quite often but that's pushes and shoves, my 2nd peeve, after 'he got the ball', is the little 2 hand push in the back as a player jumps meaning he's moving in the air and either can't make a header or can't direct it. It's a clear foul and yet you see them almost every game because refs have let it go for years.
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If I'd been in the arsenal fans' place, I'd have been screaming at Bellerin for being weak in his challenge.
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I have rewatched the game looking out for a piece of skill that Jack did that went uncommented on.
On about 84 mins the ball is deep in our half, it’s played into Jack who has 2 Arsenal players on him, plus 1 just in front.
He takes 2 steps towards our goal, stops, turns and breaks away taking 3 players out of the game.
It’s wonderful, superb, beautiful stuff that just comes so naturally to him we just accept it.
The kid is a fucking genius.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1325531982495961089
We absolutely took the piss there.
I've been a bit peed off that various highlight reels and shows didn't pick this move up from the very beginning.
There's a wonderful time-stopped-still moment where what looks like the entire arsenal side and half of ours are all stood completely motionless as Barkley holds the ball, the only movement in the entire scene being when Targett recognises his cue and bursts beyond them.
But do you know what, if we were in the ground, I guarantee I'd still have some tw*t near me going "STOP F*CKING ABOUT".
Me for one.
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I have rewatched the game looking out for a piece of skill that Jack did that went uncommented on.
On about 84 mins the ball is deep in our half, it’s played into Jack who has 2 Arsenal players on him, plus 1 just in front.
He takes 2 steps towards our goal, stops, turns and breaks away taking 3 players out of the game.
It’s wonderful, superb, beautiful stuff that just comes so naturally to him we just accept it.
The kid is a fucking genius.
Check the villa twitter feed and the grealish thread.
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Just been debating SJM's disallowed goal on Sky Sports, ex ref Dermott Gallagher has said correct decision, he thinks as Barkley interfered with Leno's vision, the fact that the goalie wouldn't have saved the shot is irrelevant. Bonkers
Dermott Gallagher is a little fucking creep. He hardly ever criticises the officials unless it's something so blatantly wrong that a blind man on a galloping horse would see it. He obviously enjoys still being a part of the referees clique and he doesn't want to jeopardise that.
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Look at de bryner’s from man city last season that went through sterlings legs...
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
Absolutely not, they were shoulder-to-shoulder, that's always been part of the game. I moan about refs missing stuff quite often but that's pushes and shoves, my 2nd peeve, after 'he got the ball', is the little 2 hand push in the back as a player jumps meaning he's moving in the air and either can't make a header or can't direct it. It's a clear foul and yet you see them almost every game because refs have let it go for years.
100% agree about Grealish. It was shoulder to shoulder which is a totally legitimate thing to do. Not Jack's fault that he's built like a tank or that Tarquin looked like he exists on a diet of Fois Gras.
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
Absolutely not, they were shoulder-to-shoulder, that's always been part of the game. I moan about refs missing stuff quite often but that's pushes and shoves, my 2nd peeve, after 'he got the ball', is the little 2 hand push in the back as a player jumps meaning he's moving in the air and either can't make a header or can't direct it. It's a clear foul and yet you see them almost every game because refs have let it go for years.
100% agree about Grealish. It was shoulder to shoulder which is a totally legitimate thing to do. Not Jack's fault that he's built like a tank or that Tarquin looked like he exists on a diet of Fois Gras.
apparently he is a vegan
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
Absolutely not, they were shoulder-to-shoulder, that's always been part of the game. I moan about refs missing stuff quite often but that's pushes and shoves, my 2nd peeve, after 'he got the ball', is the little 2 hand push in the back as a player jumps meaning he's moving in the air and either can't make a header or can't direct it. It's a clear foul and yet you see them almost every game because refs have let it go for years.
100% agree about Grealish. It was shoulder to shoulder which is a totally legitimate thing to do. Not Jack's fault that he's built like a tank or that Tarquin looked like he exists on a diet of Fois Gras.
apparently he is a vegan
A lot of top athletes/triathletes are vegan
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I have rewatched the game looking out for a piece of skill that Jack did that went uncommented on.
On about 84 mins the ball is deep in our half, it’s played into Jack who has 2 Arsenal players on him, plus 1 just in front.
He takes 2 steps towards our goal, stops, turns and breaks away taking 3 players out of the game.
It’s wonderful, superb, beautiful stuff that just comes so naturally to him we just accept it.
The kid is a fucking genius.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1325782188516896768
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https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/pl-arsenal-vs-aston-villa-sunday-8th-november-19-15-gmt-illegal-streams.34609/page-68
This is a fun read, lots of Arteta out callsand to be fair alot of them were shitting it even before kick off, Not sure if thats because of what they cant do or what we can do.
They were calling for Grealish to be 'poached' without any sense of irony - been a long time since Arsenal signed a world class player - why on earth do they think he'd want to join a mid table team?
Oh - and Ozil is trending again on twitter (apparently) - they really are getting desperate.
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Thanks.....it was as brilliant as I remember.
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
Absolutely not, they were shoulder-to-shoulder, that's always been part of the game. I moan about refs missing stuff quite often but that's pushes and shoves, my 2nd peeve, after 'he got the ball', is the little 2 hand push in the back as a player jumps meaning he's moving in the air and either can't make a header or can't direct it. It's a clear foul and yet you see them almost every game because refs have let it go for years.
100% agree about Grealish. It was shoulder to shoulder which is a totally legitimate thing to do. Not Jack's fault that he's built like a tank or that Tarquin looked like he exists on a diet of Fois Gras.
apparently he is a vegan
A lot of top athletes/triathletes are vegan
yes I know it was more a dig at their forum who were giving him a dig for it . some of my best friends are vegan ;)
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Haven't posted much over last couple of games, as with the form of the end of last season/beginning of this season, I think they deserve a free pass when they have a blip in form (at least for now! ;) ).
A few on here have mentioned that when Grealish and Barkley click, we play well.... I'd extend that to Ollie. He was nowhere near the player he was last night against Southampton and Leeds, meaning we had no real threat up front to draw attention and create space for our attacking midfielders. When Ollie's on his game, I think that's when we're pretty much unbeatable. For a guy of relatively diminutive size, he holds the ball up really well - Seems to claim balls he has absolutely no right to when up against big defenders.
With Barkley's arrival stealing all the limelight, we shouldn't underestimate how much of a difference Ollie makes in that side too.... and long may it continue!
UTV
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
Absolutely not, they were shoulder-to-shoulder, that's always been part of the game. I moan about refs missing stuff quite often but that's pushes and shoves, my 2nd peeve, after 'he got the ball', is the little 2 hand push in the back as a player jumps meaning he's moving in the air and either can't make a header or can't direct it. It's a clear foul and yet you see them almost every game because refs have let it go for years.
100% agree about Grealish. It was shoulder to shoulder which is a totally legitimate thing to do. Not Jack's fault that he's built like a tank or that Tarquin looked like he exists on a diet of Fois Gras.
apparently he is a vegan
I’m a vegan, have been for about three years and I need to go on a diet!
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A great team performance. Everyone performed superbly and very similarly to the first four games worked their socks off. Keep that level of discipline added to the undoubted ability and we are going to have some fun this season.
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Great result, great team performance, clean sheet, and no egos. Some spellbinding play. Particularly liked the pass, pass, pass round the statuesque defence. Brilliant!
Lovely to see the lads smiles.
UTV!
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I have rewatched the game looking out for a piece of skill that Jack did that went uncommented on.
On about 84 mins the ball is deep in our half, it’s played into Jack who has 2 Arsenal players on him, plus 1 just in front.
He takes 2 steps towards our goal, stops, turns and breaks away taking 3 players out of the game.
It’s wonderful, superb, beautiful stuff that just comes so naturally to him we just accept it.
The kid is a fucking genius.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1325782188516896768
That was filthy. Piss taking, confidence, arrogance and sublime skill rolled into one. I challenge anyone to find in English football today that would even think to do that let alone pull it off as effortlessly as he did.
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Just been debating SJM's disallowed goal on Sky Sports, ex ref Dermott Gallagher has said correct decision, he thinks as Barkley interfered with Leno's vision, the fact that the goalie wouldn't have saved the shot is irrelevant. Bonkers
Dermott Gallagher is a little fucking creep. He hardly ever criticises the officials unless it's something so blatantly wrong that a blind man on a galloping horse would see it. He obviously enjoys still being a part of the referees clique and he doesn't want to jeopardise that.
Sorry Edge, Dermott Gallagher is a gentleman, I know because I've been in his company and have been linesman for him when he refereed Worcester City on the Southern League. He takes his refereeing very seriously and is extremely helpful to junior referees. He's as far from creepy as you can get. I respect you're right to that opinion although I think you are wrong.
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I’ll apologise now and say my opinion differs with yours, Dave. Gallagher is Mike Riley’s puppet/stool pigeon, and I have never once seen him adopt a practical common sense view if it is seen to compromise his peers or the referees union, regardless of the circumstances. He should be a politician.
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No opinion necessary Des, it's your opinion as it is the Edge's. You will never get a high-profile referee come out and critisise another high-profile referee, it just isn't done, I only do it because I'm seventy-two and it ain't going to hamper my career.
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
Absolutely not, they were shoulder-to-shoulder, that's always been part of the game. I moan about refs missing stuff quite often but that's pushes and shoves, my 2nd peeve, after 'he got the ball', is the little 2 hand push in the back as a player jumps meaning he's moving in the air and either can't make a header or can't direct it. It's a clear foul and yet you see them almost every game because refs have let it go for years.
Totally correct. What Jack did was very reminiscent of Gazza in his prime. He always used his arms and upper body strength to get rid of opponents. Jack seems to be staying on his feet much more this season.
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Behind the scenes. Always a good watch
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1325868256108961797?s=21
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cov0bmfO_w
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Just been debating SJM's disallowed goal on Sky Sports, ex ref Dermott Gallagher has said correct decision, he thinks as Barkley interfered with Leno's vision, the fact that the goalie wouldn't have saved the shot is irrelevant. Bonkers
Dermott Gallagher is a little fucking creep. He hardly ever criticises the officials unless it's something so blatantly wrong that a blind man on a galloping horse would see it. He obviously enjoys still being a part of the referees clique and he doesn't want to jeopardise that.
Sorry Edge, Dermott Gallagher is a gentleman, I know because I've been in his company and have been linesman for him when he refereed Worcester City on the Southern League. He takes his refereeing very seriously and is extremely helpful to junior referees. He's as far from creepy as you can get. I respect you're right to that opinion although I think you are wrong.
Fair enough i'll apologise for calling Mr Gallagher an effing creep. Let me explain what i meant. I'm saying that every time i've seen or heard him comment on controversial refereeing decisions he continually backs the officials. Even when everyone else in the football fraternity agrees that they got it wrong. I don't know him and i take on board your comments about him but i do think he is part of the whole problem we face with VAR. Refs and ex refs are covering each others backs.
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Not had time to read thru the thread but two observations - the Beeb now reports assists under the goalscorers on their website. Why isn't Targett acknowledged for the first goal? It's left blank, is it because the goal was an OG? Shit reasoning if so.
And second, while I admire the impudence of it, Jack clearly barged their player (Tierney?) for the last goal, to make sure he wouldn't make a challenge. If that was against us, I'd be shouting for a free kick. Not VARable but I'm surprised Atkinson missed it.
A shoulder charge whilst the ball is within playing distance of both players is legal.
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Not going to say where, but I've heard Andy Townsend discussing our game. He was speaking about the body language of the arsenal players throughout the game. Compare that to the attitude of our lot when McGinn's got chalked off, it didn't get them down, they had a look of, "well, these things happen. Let's get another one". Positive bunch.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cov0bmfO_w
That was definitely us!!!
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cov0bmfO_w
That's good, but...
https://twitter.com/mrjimmyhessel/status/1325577198728851456?s=19
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cov0bmfO_w
That's good, but...
https://twitter.com/mrjimmyhessel/status/1325577198728851456?s=19
Excellent !
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I have rewatched the game looking out for a piece of skill that Jack did that went uncommented on.
On about 84 mins the ball is deep in our half, it’s played into Jack who has 2 Arsenal players on him, plus 1 just in front.
He takes 2 steps towards our goal, stops, turns and breaks away taking 3 players out of the game.
It’s wonderful, superb, beautiful stuff that just comes so naturally to him we just accept it.
The kid is a fucking genius.
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1325782188516896768
That was filthy. Piss taking, confidence, arrogance and sublime skill rolled into one. I challenge anyone to find in English football today that would even think to do that let alone pull it off as effortlessly as he did.
It really was. The RMC co-commentator here in France made a noise like he'd shot his bolt all over whatever passes for a commentary booth in lockdown days when Grealish pulled that off.
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All three goals were simply terrific. For the first, well done especially to Targett for the way he joined up with Grealish and Barkley to set up the goal; and for the second, what a great pass, cross and timing from Watkins to get in there for the header. My favourite though was the third, for the sense of adventure, and speed of thought and movement from the moment the ball was in Martinez's hands. And the way Grealish simply bounced the Arsenal defender out of the way as he dribbled through at such pace was a joy.
seen that on Villa TV back today. Cracking shoulder charge from Grealish to bounce the defender off they showed it from behind the goal. Immense. If we can find a bit more consistency, the European spots are wide open this season. When we’re on it, we’re unstoppable. 15 pts from 7 games is very impressive when you look at how last season played out.
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It took us till the 14th game last season, the 2-2 at Man U in early December to get to 15 points, it took us till the 19th game, 1-0 at home to Norwich on Boxing Day (an anxious horrible performance remembering back) to get to 18 points. Obviously things may go wrong as the season progresses, injuries, form etc, but we’re literally doubling our points tally at the moment, flying!!
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cov0bmfO_w
That's good, but...
https://twitter.com/mrjimmyhessel/status/1325577198728851456?s=19
Beautiful bit of editing.
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Don’t know if this has been mentioned but in the various media outlets ‘team of the week’ I count we had 7 players picked across them.
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It certainly was a superb all round performance (especially the second half), I quite like these Sunday evening games. With a bit more consistency and a bit of luck with injuries etc we could have a bloody good season on our hands.
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There's been mention around of player ratings and various teams of the week, but I'm currently enjoying the Pan-european rankings of whoscored.com (https://www.whoscored.com/). On individual player ratings we're not heavily featured in the various trait Top 5s, with Grealish ranked 5th in overall magnificence behind Ibrahimovic, Kane, Lewandowski and Mbappe. But go all the way down the page to team Rating, and the name Aston Villa proudly sits atop that list.
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For those that think life's not been the same since Alan Partridge was moved off the sports desk, here's a couple of minutes of highlights with an 'alternative' commentary.
https://twitter.com/HayesLockett/status/1325591557710487553?s=19
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I watched MOTD2 last night and i cannot think of a time where they have gushed over a teams performance like they did over ours. I felt a sense of pride like my child winning an award at school and everyone saw it
I will watch it again tonight - and maybe every night until the next game
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I watched MOTD2 last night and i cannot think of a time where they have gushed over a teams performance like they did over ours. I felt a sense of pride like my child winning an award at school and everyone saw it
I will watch it again tonight - and maybe every night until the next game
yeah I watched it and felt almost embarrassed by their gushing praise....blushing even :)
UTV
The Doc
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For those that think life's not been the same since Alan Partridge was moved off the sports desk, here's a couple of minutes of highlights with an 'alternative' commentary.
https://twitter.com/HayesLockett/status/1325591557710487553?s=19
I've no idea what I just watched but I liked it.
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If I'd been in the arsenal fans' place, I'd have been screaming at Bellerin for being weak in his challenge.
Like the AFTV crew were eh? 😉
https://youtu.be/TmIZgF7gnv0
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If I'd been in the arsenal fans' place, I'd have been screaming at Bellerin for being weak in his challenge.
Like the AFTV crew were eh? 😉
https://youtu.be/TmIZgF7gnv0
Not a lot of love for Bellerin in that room!
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For those that think life's not been the same since Alan Partridge was moved off the sports desk, here's a couple of minutes of highlights with an 'alternative' commentary.
https://twitter.com/HayesLockett/status/1325591557710487553?s=19
Make me laugh. Very British (humour) isn it?
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Just watched the highlights for about the fifth time. Absolutely loving it. The goals and the chances just get more impressive everytime I watch it
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Still chuffed about Sunday every time I think about it. Great way to go into yet another international break. Bet you Jack still won't get into the England team! :'(
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For those that think life's not been the same since Alan Partridge was moved off the sports desk, here's a couple of minutes of highlights with an 'alternative' commentary.
https://twitter.com/HayesLockett/status/1325591557710487553?s=19
Make me laugh. Very British (humour) isn it?
Our floppy haired prince.
I love it.
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The clip on twitter with the french commentary for the first goal is brilliant.
Ah oui!
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The clip on twitter with the french commentary for the first goal is brilliant.
Ah oui!
Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuiiiiiiii!!!!!
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For those that think life's not been the same since Alan Partridge was moved off the sports desk, here's a couple of minutes of highlights with an 'alternative' commentary.
https://twitter.com/HayesLockett/status/1325591557710487553?s=19
Make me laugh. Very British (humour) isn it?
Our floppy haired prince.
I love it.
'Here is a proper shit header'
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That behind the scenes footage was great to see. Still looks weird playing in empty grounds though. Certainly highlights how fit these top players are, great footage of Jacks run with the ball for the third goal. No one more impressive in full flight, and his link up play with Barkley has made a real difference this season. Also confidence level is through the roof at the moment, compared with last season. Lets just hope we can keep players fit and keep the momentum going. UTV
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I watched MOTD2 last night and i cannot think of a time where they have gushed over a teams performance like they did over ours. I felt a sense of pride like my child winning an award at school and everyone saw it
I will watch it again tonight - and maybe every night until the next game
yeah I watched it and felt almost embarrassed by their gushing praise....blushing even :)
UTV
The Doc
Annoyed that I can't see this. iPlayer doesn't work outside the UK and I won't be back til a couple of weeks when it's been "taped over" by the Beeb. I pays me license!
Is there something similar to FootyTube (RIP) which collates tv highlights and punditry on one clip?
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I watched MOTD2 last night and i cannot think of a time where they have gushed over a teams performance like they did over ours. I felt a sense of pride like my child winning an award at school and everyone saw it
I will watch it again tonight - and maybe every night until the next game
yeah I watched it and felt almost embarrassed by their gushing praise....blushing even :)
UTV
The Doc
Annoyed that I can't see this. iPlayer doesn't work outside the UK and I won't be back til a couple of weeks when it's been "taped over" by the Beeb. I pays me license!
Is there something similar to FootyTube (RIP) which collates tv highlights and punditry on one clip?
Try this mate. Works for me in Canada
https://highlightsfootball.net/video/bbc-match-of-the-day-2-week-8-08-11-2020/
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Thanks pal. The web page loads but on the embedded MoTD part it's grey with a sad emoji and the below message:
"The web page at https://ok.ru/videoembed/2857034648268 might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address"
Will try again later though, cheers.
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Really? I just clicked on the link on my phone and the show is there. Yeah take a look later but it should work.
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This Season is really starting to look good. I still can't get over the 7-2 win against Liverpool : l 7-2 FFS against Liverpool !!!!!! Following that up with an Arsenal Tonking is even better. Sad about the Leeds and Southampton performance but so much better than our previous few seasons. team playing as a team. When we click we really are great when we don't we stink the place out. We seem to be all or nothing, but I am sure that we all need to keep our patience. We will soon learn how to have a mediocre game against a mediocre team like Leeds of Southampton. At least we didn't give up against Southampton, another 5 mins and we would have grabbed a point.
Overall - Happy
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This Season is really starting to look good. I still can't get over the 7-2 win against Liverpool : l 7-2 FFS against Liverpool !!!!!! Following that up with an Arsenal Tonking is even better. Sad about the Leeds and Southampton performance but so much better than our previous few seasons. team playing as a team. When we click we really are great when we don't we stink the place out. We seem to be all or nothing, but I am sure that we all need to keep our patience. We will soon learn how to have a mediocre game against a mediocre team like Leeds of Southampton. At least we didn't give up against Southampton, another 5 mins and we would have grabbed a point.
Overall - Happy
just change a little bit of luck in both the leeds and saints games and we would have won them both. Fine margins
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I watched MOTD2 last night and i cannot think of a time where they have gushed over a teams performance like they did over ours. I felt a sense of pride like my child winning an award at school and everyone saw it
I will watch it again tonight - and maybe every night until the next game
yeah I watched it and felt almost embarrassed by their gushing praise....blushing even :)
UTV
The Doc
Annoyed that I can't see this. iPlayer doesn't work outside the UK and I won't be back til a couple of weeks when it's been "taped over" by the Beeb. I pays me license!
Is there something similar to FootyTube (RIP) which collates tv highlights and punditry on one clip?
Try this mate. Works for me in Canada
https://highlightsfootball.net/video/bbc-match-of-the-day-2-week-8-08-11-2020/
Thanks for that link TV, I can't get the iplayer here either.
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As well the Quality we seem to be a bit more streetwise this year.
FWIW I think he got the Barkley offside correct
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This Season is really starting to look good. I still can't get over the 7-2 win against Liverpool : l 7-2 FFS against Liverpool !!!!!! Following that up with an Arsenal Tonking is even better. Sad about the Leeds and Southampton performance but so much better than our previous few seasons. team playing as a team. When we click we really are great when we don't we stink the place out. We seem to be all or nothing, but I am sure that we all need to keep our patience. We will soon learn how to have a mediocre game against a mediocre team like Leeds of Southampton. At least we didn't give up against Southampton, another 5 mins and we would have grabbed a point.
Overall - Happy
just change a little bit of luck in both the leeds and saints games and we would have won them both. Fine margins
Against Leeds maybe, if we'd got the first goal, things could have been different but Southampton was more about stupid needless mistakes and playing into Southampton's hands than bad luck.
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I watched MOTD2 last night and i cannot think of a time where they have gushed over a teams performance like they did over ours. I felt a sense of pride like my child winning an award at school and everyone saw it
I will watch it again tonight - and maybe every night until the next game
yeah I watched it and felt almost embarrassed by their gushing praise....blushing even :)
UTV
The Doc
Annoyed that I can't see this. iPlayer doesn't work outside the UK and I won't be back til a couple of weeks when it's been "taped over" by the Beeb. I pays me license!
Is there something similar to FootyTube (RIP) which collates tv highlights and punditry on one clip?
Try this mate. Works for me in Canada
https://highlightsfootball.net/video/bbc-match-of-the-day-2-week-8-08-11-2020/
Just watched that link thanks for posting. The comments from Alan Shearer made me feel so proud of the lads. That's got to be the best review of a Villa performance I've ever heard. "The complete performance" Wow.
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This Season is really starting to look good. I still can't get over the 7-2 win against Liverpool : l 7-2 FFS against Liverpool !!!!!! Following that up with an Arsenal Tonking is even better. Sad about the Leeds and Southampton performance but so much better than our previous few seasons. team playing as a team. When we click we really are great when we don't we stink the place out. We seem to be all or nothing, but I am sure that we all need to keep our patience. We will soon learn how to have a mediocre game against a mediocre team like Leeds of Southampton. At least we didn't give up against Southampton, another 5 mins and we would have grabbed a point.
Overall - Happy
just change a little bit of luck in both the leeds and saints games and we would have won them both. Fine margins
Against Leeds maybe, if we'd got the first goal, things could have been different but Southampton was more about stupid needless mistakes and playing into Southampton's hands than bad luck.
I think it's fair to call it bad luck when a team scores with every shot they have on target and your goalkeeper couldn't do anything about any of them. I completely agree we made needless mistakes and gave them chances but I'm willing to bet I could count on 1 hand the number of teams in the last decade that have scored 4 from 4 shots on target in the premier league, being on the receiving end of that is unlucky.
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It was a mix I think, we weren't good enough first half but they scored two extraordinary goals, to which they added another when they had the advantage of a lead, opening the counterattack up. Fair play to them, mind-boggling efficiency, but we weren't playing like a 0-4 team whatever our flaws.
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It was a mix I think, we weren't good enough first half but they scored two extraordinary goals, to which they added another when they had the advantage of a lead, opening the counterattack up. Fair play to them, mind-boggling efficiency, but we weren't playing like a 0-4 team whatever our flaws.
Yeah, exactly, it's why I found the level of criticism towards the team and Smith a bit over the top, Leeds was a far worse performance and even that we had chances to take the lead and it'd have been a very different game if we had.
In both cases there was an element of us continuing to try to play the way we wanted to and not really worrying about the scoreboard. Under most of our managers in the last 25 years what would've happened is tighten up, keep it to 1 and hope for an equaliser. The reason we get games like Liverpool and Arsenal is because we don't have that mindset this year. Personally I'll take the odd embarrassing defeat if it means we dish out a few ourselves. If the choice is pragmatism or excitement then I'm for the latter every time, if we're not going to win trophies then lets at least make things fun, who knows, maybe that will lead to the trophies that playing it safe hasn't done.
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I agree, I was very critical in the immediate aftermath of the Leeds game (though I calmed down a bit), and at half-time against Southampton. By full time however, I thought we'd fought gamely, never given up and showed probably more quality than they had, albeit when they were comfortably up and looking to see it out. They carried that positive purpose into the Arsenal game and got the rewards, and it's a really great sign for their mentality that they did so.
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Dean Smith said much the same. We were initially very poor, especially giving away set pieces to a side very good at them. They converted their chances, scored a screamer an all of a suddenly the score line looks horrific. But it’s not like we played that way for the entire 90 minutes. We came back into it. Sure you could argue they weren’t as intense but we certainly increased our intensity at 0-4 when we could have just given up and they could have gone on to 5 or 6. But we played to the end, scored 3 times and scored 3 times at Arsenal. Technically we have scored 6 goals without conceding any and I’m pretty sure if we were still playing Arsenal would still not have scored. This season, the mentality of the side is much stronger. I still want to see us come back to win a game. Not that I want us to be behind of course but it’s going by to happen at some point. But the overall improvement is very encouraging indeed.
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TV I said the same to my mate,and as much as I hate us conceding... I'm waiting to see how we respond after going behind in a game.
It is great watching us play well and beat some of the teams at the top. :)
UTV
The Doc
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the Leeds game was the big downer for me as they played very well and deservedly won
even in that game we were in it for the first hour
the Southampton game they scored 3 unstoppable goals, Ward prowse won’t hit better free kicks as long as he lives and he got two that time
Ings goal was a superb finish
but we still rallied and in the end didn’t feel as bad a result as it could have looked
I think it gave us confidence for the Arsenal game and a mind set of getting of to a good start, get them on the back foot early
hopefully I think that’s what we learned from Southampton
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All seven of our league games so far have been won by the team scoring first. Obviously scoring first is a big advantage in determining which team wins but I wonder whether it suggests something more about the psychology of being ahead (or behind) and the confidence or otherwise that goes with that.
We didn't go behind in any of the final 4 games last season which at that point was huge in giving us the confidence that we needed.
We are clearly light years better than we were last season. We have a settled eleven, everyone knows their positions, we have improved the squad and much in the garden is rosy.
I think that the main area of improvement is psychological. We lack the belief at present that we really are better than the teams we are playing which is why we are still vulnerable when we go behind.
The really great teams have had that inner belief that that would prevail regardless of the score or the situation and very often they would come back from being behind and get the result.
We are not there yet inevitably as we haven't established that inner belief but it is building. And when we get there, boy, we will really have something special on our hands.
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This Season is really starting to look good. I still can't get over the 7-2 win against Liverpool : l 7-2 FFS against Liverpool !!!!!! Following that up with an Arsenal Tonking is even better. Sad about the Leeds and Southampton performance but so much better than our previous few seasons. team playing as a team. When we click we really are great when we don't we stink the place out. We seem to be all or nothing, but I am sure that we all need to keep our patience. We will soon learn how to have a mediocre game against a mediocre team like Leeds of Southampton. At least we didn't give up against Southampton, another 5 mins and we would have grabbed a point.
Overall - Happy
just change a little bit of luck in both the leeds and saints games and we would have won them both. Fine margins
Against Leeds maybe, if we'd got the first goal, things could have been different but Southampton was more about stupid needless mistakes and playing into Southampton's hands than bad luck.
I think it's fair to call it bad luck when a team scores with every shot they have on target and your goalkeeper couldn't do anything about any of them. I completely agree we made needless mistakes and gave them chances but I'm willing to bet I could count on 1 hand the number of teams in the last decade that have scored 4 from 4 shots on target in the premier league, being on the receiving end of that is unlucky.
While I'm totally over that game now that was my take on it the following day. We did make mistakes but I honestly think it was just their day. 3 of the 4 goals were unbelievable and in no way reflect on the keeper. Loads on here said that how we reacted would tell us everything we need to know about the team. Well I think the boys answered that one with bells on.
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All seven of our league games so far have been won by the team scoring first. Obviously scoring first is a big advantage in determining which team wins but I wonder whether it suggests something more about the psychology of being ahead (or behind) and the confidence or otherwise that goes with that.
We didn't go behind in any of the final 4 games last season which at that point was huge in giving us the confidence that we needed.
We are clearly light years better than we were last season. We have a settled eleven, everyone knows their positions, we have improved the squad and much in the garden is rosy.
I think that the main area of improvement is psychological. We lack the belief at present that we really are better than the teams we are playing which is why we are still vulnerable when we go behind.
The really great teams have had that inner belief that that would prevail regardless of the score or the situation and very often they would come back from being behind and get the result.
We are not there yet inevitably as we haven't established that inner belief but it is building. And when we get there, boy, we will really have something special on our hands.
Good post - agree with your thoughts.
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Good post BB