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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2020, 05:57:43 PM
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Fuck me
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Confirmed, we stay up.
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Yaaaaaaasssssssss
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Thank fuck for that!
Little stream dropped for Jacks goal and came back for their fluke equaliser.
Relieved is an understatement.
GTFI Villa!!!
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Thank the Lords of Kobol!
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Knackered.
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Never in doubt.
I'm a gibbering wreck.
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Confirmed, we stay up.
Is Arsenal game finished ?
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Yeeeeeah! Fucking unbearable!
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I am shattered ... but so happy! Get in there.....
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That was ace, top 10 though next season please Villa.
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And relaaaaax. That was tense.
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Wow. I have to say that I really didn’t enjoy that at all
The only moment I smiled was when Jack scored. And that was replaced by a huge worried frown and bowel movement after they equalised.
Up the Villa! We are staying up!!!
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Sheer relief. And that's it.
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Fuck me! We only fucking did it!!!!!
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More of the same for the following year then. Can't wait.
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😂
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I never, ever, ever want to go through that again. I'm shredded.
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so much work to do in the next seven weeks but TFFT
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Jesus. I wish the close season was longer!
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Six points off those Everton bastards next season please.
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I apologise for being a negative fucker on here! Get in! Need improvement next year but let’s celebrate this
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssss!
Fuck me I thought we were done for a few weeks ago! Credit to the players and manager, they pulled it off somehow.
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Never in doubt, never in doubt that I would be touching cloth in the second half.
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Fucking Hell YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS
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Never been so delighted to be wrong.Triple helping of humble pie for dinner washed down by a lot of alcohol.VTID.
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Jeez that was agonising, but what a relief. Time to reflect on the season in the days to come, but they have turned things round well the last couple of weeks.
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Smith teams do get stronger at the end of the season, then!
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In the end it was brilliant to pick up 8 points from 12 and it really could and should have been 12 when you think of late goals today and Everton.
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That bottle of port will go down nicely later this evening.
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Phew !!!!!
We should Never celebrate escaping relegation.
But I’ll have a few beers and a smile tonight.
Sort this out for next season. Learn the lessons.
But mostly, phew.
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Six points off those Everton bastards next season please.
I don't have BT, so watched this game today. Everton are truly terrible. They are slow and ponderous, like we were a few weeks ago.
Well done Villa. Fitting that Jack scored. I hope he stays but can't blame him or the club for cashing in. Spend now. Great results.
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We were dead & buried 2 weeks ago. Brilliant effort to turn that around. I didn't think they had it in them. Now the hard work really starts. Well done to all.
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Superb
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Tis the Villa way and my nerves are shot. Can't even have a drink as on nights tonight.
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Off to hospital for a heart transplant and to get my sphincter relaxed.
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Savage look gutted, great stuff!
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Wow - I have to admit I was one of those who in the last few weeks had written us off. In 52 years, I have never been happier to have been proven wrong. Simple as that. Get drunk tonight ....... and let the serious hard work start tomorrow morning.
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We're still up. So much work and dealing to be done over the summer but we're still up. Outstanding effort from everyone over those last four games. Oh, and Everton are a fucking disgrace.
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I should probably apologies to the people in my block of flats who may have been expecting a nice, peaceful Sunday afternoon. They didn't get one.
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Happy we survived Far from happy that we got into this position in the first place.
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Such a strange game. Nothing like I imagined. So relieved we managed to get the result, I'm knackered having watched that. Let's not make a habit of it, eh lads? Onwards and bloody upwards!
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I'd like to take a minute to spare a thought for the fans of Liverpool, sha, Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, Albion, Bristol City, and all the others that have a weird Villa obsession and say haha we love your bitterness. And enjoy that feeling of that Sheff United non goal.
Love from the spawny bastards.
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That's taken 10 years off my life and at the age of 70 that's not good, but i don't care, brilliant Villa.
STAYING UP THE VILLA
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Six points off those Everton bastards next season please.
I don't have BT, so watched this game today. Everton are truly terrible. They are slow and ponderous, like we were a few weeks ago.
Well done Villa. Fitting that Jack scored. I hope he stays but can't blame him or the club for cashing in. Spend now. Great results.
I watched the Watford game, and Arsenal looked like that. Arteta has his work cut out.
And now Deeney expresses concern for the people at his club that might lose their jobs because the players weren't better at theirs, the considerate empathising bastard.
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Astonishing. Excellent performance. We tried to stay on front foot and take the game to West Ham. An amazing moment for Jack to score on the final day and then a moment that just seemed so unmistakably Villa this season, in conceding quickly (though on this occasion more down to awful luck than anything).
I thought we were dead and buried after the Utd game. When we found ourselves 7 points adrift, looking unable to find a win from anywhere, Dean pulled it out the bag. A lot has gone wrong this season. I lot I hope he learns from and our players improve from, but he's pulled it out the back. His remit was 17th or above this season. He's done that.
I've aged about 10 years watching that bloody game, but we've now got a great platform to kick off from. We can see the areas we need to improve on. We don't need 11-12 players in. We need 5-6 good first teamers to improve the spine. Our current batch will improve. I really hope Grealish gives us another season, but if he doesn't, we can potentially get 2-3 excellent players with the money he'll go for. Personally I think he needs another season here as top dog to maintain consistency and continue his improvement. He could stifle that by going to a top 6 side and potentially losing his starting spot. He's first name on the team sheet here.
I've seen enough from the likes of Hourihane, Konsa, Guilbert, Targett, Trezegeut to see they'll play a part next season. Though we'll need first 11 alternatives to those. Luiz will take a huge leap forward next season I feel, and McGinn has been getting back to his best. By September he should be 100%.
A lot of work needs doing in the window now, and we need a CF who'll score goals and who we can rely on. I think Wesley has a part to play. Samatta I'm not sure. I think he needs to be sold. Davis I like. He doesn't score but he does good things on the pitch and is a useful option. A new no 9 is essential though.
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Great second half peformance
Davis must be the most unlucky striker of all time
Lets worry about all that shit another day.
We live to fight again
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I fucking love you all you ******
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Wow - what a ride the last 4 games have been. Really pulled it out the bag well done Villa.
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Nothing really matters anymore. UTV
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I’m actually in shock. We was dead and buried 3 weeks ago. I’m so happy, enjoy your summer everyone. I will
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
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I'd like to take a minute to spare a thought for the fans of Liverpool, sha, Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, Albion, Bristol City, and all the others that have a weird Villa obsession and say haha we love your bitterness. And enjoy that feeling of that Sheff United non goal.
Love from the spawny bastards.
Absolutely this. Fuck all of them.
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We were gone after that Man Utd game, Im so fucking proud of them right now, massive bollocks.
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I have only just realised how much I have sweated through my T-shirt all through today's games. You would think I had played the ninety minutes rather than followed it in the comfort of my home.
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My blood pressure is through the roof, but we did it. Can we play every season as a tournament ?
A moment of real quality from Jack in an otherwise professional performance. Game management again a highlight.
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Great job, lads!!
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Was absolutely disgusted with the lack of social distancing by the boys post match, absolutely appalling behaviour.
WAS I FUCK!!!!!!
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Fun fact. It's the first time we've been unbeaten in 4 top flight league games since Lambert, winter of 2014.
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In awe shock disbelief etc. Bring on the happy drink!
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That bottle of port will go down nicely later this evening.
Knowing you you will drop it ;)
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I fucking love you all you c***s
We all love you too you bar steward
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We really need to savour this moment. Leave it a week though and, we really have to attract two top strikers with some pace.
Enjoy tonight though!!!!
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I never, ever, ever want to go through that again. I'm shredded.
That is three seasons on the bounce it has gone to the last kick of the season to find out what League we will be playing in the following season.
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Thank you, thank you anf fucking thank you to everyone....
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At last! Back on this site after it kept crashing.
I had a rant on "The Future" thread after the Man Utd game about them all. I was sure we were down, like most of us here.
They've proved me wrong. Guess I'll have to put the oven on for the veggie option humble pie for my tea. Well done
everyone (and please stay, Jack)! We need better quality though and sharpish!
Tara a bit, Troy!
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First bottle empty
Second chilling in the fridge
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That bottle of port will go down nicely later this evening.
Knowing you you will drop it ;)
Or tumble dry it ...
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OMG! thank you PWS for your faithful, ahead of everyone else, updates! Think you may have saved me from heart attack.
Drama as it should be
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Never in doubt.
I'm a gibbering wreck.
Almost as dizzy as your cat
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
Fuck every last bit of 2020 apart from today.
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But again I’ve been negative and apologise. But strayed onto sha forum and that my friends is comedy gold. We are spawny cheating bastards apparently......
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Oh and Skáááál to all fellow fans around the globe. Schnapps going, beers is plentiful.
34 round 7 points off.
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Fucking hell. Bastards. Now I’ve got to worry about next season.
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I'd like to take a minute to spare a thought for the fans of Liverpool, sha, Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, Albion, Bristol City, and all the others that have a weird Villa obsession and say haha we love your bitterness. And enjoy that feeling of that Sheff United non goal.
Love from the spawny bastards.
Absolutely this. Fuck all of them.
Got my first Jammy Viler text from the family! :D
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Thank fuck that is over. Was out of coverage for most of it and my phone went mad as I drove back in to service.
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I'm just happy that it fucks off bitters and doghead fans today who were all planning to be without us next year.
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The game finished about 45 minutes ago and I'm still shaking. That was hard work but well done Villa, amazing.
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But again I’ve been negative and apologise. But strayed onto sha forum and that my friends is comedy gold. We are spawny cheating bastards apparently......
Bet we all hear "but that Sheffield Utd goal..." a hundred times over the next few weeks.
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Well I stuck to my guns and went for a long solo ride, got home 10 minutes ago to see the scores on BBC, couldn't face it.
Well done, whatever it is you put in the tea worked.
Everton can fuck off as well.
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But again I’ve been negative and apologise. But strayed onto sha forum and that my friends is comedy gold. We are spawny cheating bastards apparently......
Bet we all hear "but that Sheffield Utd goal..." a hundred times over the next few weeks.
Let's hope so.
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SO F_ING HAPPY
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But again I’ve been negative and apologise. But strayed onto sha forum and that my friends is comedy gold. We are spawny cheating bastards apparently......
Bet we all hear "but that Sheffield Utd goal..." a hundred times over the next few weeks.
Yep, it's started already. All over social media. But you know what, fuck em. We all know that we can point to numerous shit decisions against us, but one we got away with means that we should really have been relegated?
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Absolutely fucking loving it. I love this club and that was a massive result. Must say that was a very horrible 90 minutes of my life.
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But again I’ve been negative and apologise. But strayed onto sha forum and that my friends is comedy gold. We are spawny cheating bastards apparently......
Bet we all hear "but that Sheffield Utd goal..." a hundred times over the next few weeks.
I've already had a comment about Hawkeye failing from a normally friendly Norwich fan, who wanted us to stay up. Fuck em all. It didn't happen in the 90th minute, no one can say we'd have definitely lost if the goal had counted
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Avoided all results ,spent 3 hours cleaning my bike ,it's gleaming just like my smile well done Deano and the boys , bloody chuffed
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Fantastic escape guys!! That little shit Ryan Fredericks pissed me off! Remember the stamp on Jack in the play-off final against Fulham? Still, a great night of celebration ahead!
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Felt like the most stressful game ever. Bombed it back from Devon to brum to watch with another family of villa fans. My lad had tears in his eyes when grealish scores, for silence to then follow, after they equalised. We were sloppy first half I thought, but largely excellent second half, and managed the game out really well. Mad season
But against all the odds 2 weeks ago, they’ve done it, well done to Dean and the lads. I will be celebrating with a good few beers tonight UTV till I die!
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But again I’ve been negative and apologise. But strayed onto sha forum and that my friends is comedy gold. We are spawny cheating bastards apparently......
Bet we all hear "but that Sheffield Utd goal..." a hundred times over the next few weeks.
Let's hope so.
Some did defend us about palace goal that was rubbed out to be fair.
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Highlights
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036790/villa-survive-after-late-drama
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1287437514920398851
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I love that the Sheff Utd non goal will eat away at our 'friends' for months, quite surprised any of us would think otherwise.
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Highlights
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036790/villa-survive-after-late-drama
Why would you put us through that again 😷😷
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I had my yearly check up at the company doc on Friday. He said 'your blood pressure is a bit low, we'll keep an eye on that'. If he checked it again now, I'd blow his fucking machine up.
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
Fuck every last bit of 2020 apart from today.
Cheers Dave. Cheers Villa. Cheers Dad.
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Time to get smashed now, tomorrow I will have a good read of SHA while touching myself.
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So happy! Went absolutely mental when Jack scored and typical Villa to make it more nervy. We saw it out well though.
On reflection West Ham didn't pose a threat at all. Rice lumping shots 10 yards high and wide summed them up, but it was still excruciating to watch.
We definitely upped our game second half, without that killer instinct. Some solid performances, without being outstanding.
But we did it! Time to reflect, add to the squad and have a nice boring last day next year.
Get the fuck in Villa!
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Yesssssssssssssssssss!
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Could not be happier for Smith and the lads. Well done.
A cup final and PL survival in the teeth of VAR and the worst refereeing since that 'Hand of God' non-goal in the World Cup. A new squad from bare bones 12 months ago, things built, mistakes made and I hope lessons learned. Massive smile will not leave my face for a week.
So fuck the titty-babbies on here, fuck the idiots of all teams wishing us ill and fuck the professional carpers and grifters whoever they support; we are Villa.
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Yesssssssssssssssssss!
if you are only now watching the game on delay it becomes very Villa in about a minute. Sorry...
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Ea-zy ea-zy
🙄😂😂😂😂
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Well done from this Fulham fan, you certainly make hard work of it!! Hope to be playing you next season, after going through our third playoffs in four years,
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Grealish's og reminded me of paul parker in the 1990 world cup semi.
It was euphoria to despair in 5 mins.
We finished the job though all credit to deano and the boys.
Spend heavily in the summer. Keep Grealish. Pay him whatever he wants!
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Well done from this Fulham fan, you certainly make hard work of it!! Hope to be playing you next season, after going through our third playoffs in four years,
Perhaps you could do a Villa? 😀
Who hoo! Yippee aye ay! Now to sing Sweet Caroline again...
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Villa we love you !!!
Good times never felt so good !
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Well done from this Fulham fan, you certainly make hard work of it!! Hope to be playing you next season, after going through our third playoffs in four years,
Thanks, and it's nice to hear from you again after so long. All the best to Fulham in the playoffs!
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Oh and Skáááál to all fellow fans around the globe. Schnapps going, beers is plentiful.
34 round 7 points off.
Apparently a lie... believed what i heard hehe
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Thank McGrath this season is finally over!
Never in doubt was it? :D
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Well done from this Fulham fan, you certainly make hard work of it!! Hope to be playing you next season, after going through our third playoffs in four years,
Cheers mate. We didn’t do a fullham but apart from you being our bogey team your fans are a decent bunch from my experience
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
Fuck every last bit of 2020 apart from today.
Too right, Dave. Catharsis today.
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To make this eeeeeeeven better (for me, anyway)
Watford lose
Villa draw
Bournemouth win.
That's my bet (tenner at 23/1).
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To make this eeeeeeeven better (for me, anyway)
Watford lose
Villa draw
Bournemouth win.
That's my bet (tenner at 23/1).
1k?
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Didn’t look possible when we were seven points adrift but we found eight points when we really really needed them. I’d have bitten your hand off for seventeenth last August so yippee.
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Thank McGrath this season is finally over!
Never in doubt was it? :D
The bad news is it all starts again in 6 weeks!
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Thank McGrath this season is finally over!
Never in doubt was it? :D
The bad news is it all starts again in 6 weeks!
Crikey! I thought the transfer talk was premature, but I guess it really isn't.
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Well done, lads.
Sat out in the back garden of the family home following on BBC Text and doing cryptic crosswords while listening to screams and oaths from my brothers in the house.
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
I feel for you. My brother, who made me a Villa supporter, died last February after a tragic accident in his garden. Our first game after his death was the first of our run of 10 wins on the trot. Then we were promoted. As you say, crying. Tears for him and for what he had missed. UTV
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
Sorry for your loss and delighted that Villa were able to do the job for you today.
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A quick and frank post mortem on this season is needed, and then on to planning for September. However, that can wait until tomorrow. For tonight let's enjoy a moment that only a few weeks ago looked unlikely.
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We are Aston Villa and all have become accustomed to the way they put us through it every time.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1287437514920398851?s=20
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
I feel for you. My brother, who made me a Villa supporter, died last February after a tragic accident in his garden. Our first game after his death was the first of our run of 10 wins on the trot. Then we were promoted. As you say, crying. Tears for him and for what he had missed. UTV
Best wishes to you both.
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However unlikely it seemed a couple weeks ago, we've done it. My heart rate during that game was off the scale but it was worth every second in the end.
It seems Jack will probably go and I hope we invest that wisely with two strikers a priority.
And thanks to everyone on here for your entertainment and support. Villa fans are the best.
UP THE VILLA!!
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You know the scene in Shawshank when Andy Dufrene puts the record on over the tannoy then sits back and enjoys what's going on, that's me at the moment.
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Thank McGrath this season is finally over!
Never in doubt was it? :D
The bad news is it all starts again in 6 weeks!
Its like the back to school signs you saw in department stores in late July when you were a kid.
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I'd like to take a minute to spare a thought for the fans of Liverpool, sha, Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, Albion, Bristol City, and all the others that have a weird Villa obsession and say haha we love your bitterness. And enjoy that feeling of that Sheff United non goal.
Love from the spawny bastards.
Absolutely this. Fuck all of them.
Got my first Jammy Viler text from the family! :D
I have sent numerous replies to these messages mentioning the Lansbury "goal" against Palace. That shuts them up.
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I have to hold my hands up and admit that I never thought that was possible after the meek surrender against Man Utd. A quite amazing turnaround in the last 4 games. How much was down to the manager and how much was the players I don't know, but a massive well done from where we were!
I've attended most of the crucial matches over many years and TV watching is excruciating. I had to match hop in the first half cheering on Everton (who were awful).
Then, after the agonising equaliser, I even resorted to the meaningless Southampton game for the last few minutes.
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Just about recovered from the stress. We all know how it ends with the Villa, and when that flukey equaliser went in , it seemed inevitable. But against all the odds, for one truly wonderful time it didn’t. Utterly, totally , brilliant. Well done lads and a Deano and the coaching staff too.
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I'd like to take a minute to spare a thought for the fans of Liverpool, sha, Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, Albion, Bristol City, and all the others that have a weird Villa obsession and say haha we love your bitterness. And enjoy that feeling of that Sheff United non goal.
Love from the spawny bastards.
Absolutely this. Fuck all of them.
Got my first Jammy Viler text from the family! :D
I have sent numerous replies to these messages mentioning the Lansbury "goal" against Palace. That shuts them up.
Absolutely. For every piece of tech luck we got this year we got about 5 going against us, so basically fuck that argument.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1287437514920398851?s=20
Brilliant.
Check out the replies! The saltiest salt in salt land.
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https://twitter.com/OfficialTM_3/status/1287444150389026818?s=20
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I'm ecstatic we will still be in the Premier League next season. 10 points from the 10 games was all that was needed in the end and we got them.
The inquest can be saved for another day, today we celebrate.
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Jesus that was stress. I don’t do it - that was up there with the cup final and dean Saunders! What with work and this the relief is epic. I intend to celebrate like we’ve won the league - buy a 50M striker and we’re on our way - hoofing from the back - who’d have thought? Defending - ha.
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I never ever want to go through that again. UTFV
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Let’s hear it for the happy clappers ;)
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1287437514920398851?s=20
Brilliant.
Check out the replies! The saltiest salt in salt land.
We live rent free in their heads 24/7. Those replies were expected.
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Anyone else spot McGinn's forward roll during the Sweet Caroline clip...quite Marvelous :)
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
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At 73 minutes I casually put on my socks and trainers and went for a walk.
I could not bear watching any longer and fully expected to have a coronary had I continued watching.
My Mrs and daughter just looked at me open mouthed as I walked out.
Back in at 17:57 to be met by both of them screaming we had done it !!
What an afternoon.
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You know the scene in Shawshank when Andy Dufrene puts the record on over the tannoy then sits back and enjoys what's going on, that's me at the moment.
Yep, that would be a lovely comparison for me too.
I’ve just got home, exhausted, drained. I have to admit, after Man U, I was resigned to relegation. I didn’t think we had a prayer of staying up and would have bet the mortgage on it.
To get 8 from 12 from that position is stunning and says a lot for everyone concerned.
We have to build now, no excuses. Convince Jack to stay by outlining 5 quality signings.
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
I'm genuinely surprised to see how many comments there are from bitter Leeds fans. Apparently we should have let Sheffield United walk one in just like they did for us.
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Doesn’t matter....we will spank them next season!!! UTV
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Im loving the comments over the Sheff Utd phantom goal, its beautiful.
Every set of fans thinks they have been fucked over more than any other by referees/VAR but fuck them, none come close to the Kevin Friend one at Palace.
Fuck the fuckers.
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F365's "Season Winners & Losers" (winners section, obvs)
"Aston Villa
It took until late July for irrefutable proof to be provided, but one thing can finally be stated with conviction: Aston Villa did not do a Fulham.
The transition from things going relatively swimmingly in mid-October, to a team thrashing its legs below the surface from December to February and barely keeping its head above the water by the summer, then calmly letting the current carry them to shore, has been wonderful. A team that was doomed enough for the Sam Allardyce button to come into the equation has survived with apparent ease on the back of its final four games.
Quite how is immaterial for now. Dean Smith has just about accomplished his objectives. His reward is to diagnose a struggling but live patient instead of conducting a post-mortem on a cold corpse. Congratulations"
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At 73 minutes I casually put on my socks and trainers and went for a walk.
I could not bear watching any longer and fully expected to have a coronary had I continued watching.
My Mrs and daughter just looked at me open mouthed as I walked out.
Back in at 17:57 to be met by both of them screaming we had done it !!
What an afternoon.
I couldn't get as far as watching.Our youngest daughter couldn't watch at her house.The eldest in London is made of sterner stuff and watched and is now demolishing the gin.
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Christ on a bike, I never want to go through that again...
Well done lads with a special mention for John McGinn. Immense today.
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Yes just......just fuckin yes.
Never in a million months of Sundays did I expect us stay up when 7 pints adrift.
Love our Villa.
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Christ on a bike, I never want to go through that again...
Well done lads with a special mention for John McGinn. Immense today.
And Douglas Luiz. What a player we have there.
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
I'm genuinely surprised to see how many comments there are from bitter Leeds fans. Apparently we should have let Sheffield United walk one in just like they did for us.
Leeds should do one. Bielsa only let us walk one in because there was nothing at stake. Would he have done that if a win would have promoted them! Of course he wouldn’t. It was also some positive media, without risk, after Derby spygate
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Yes just......just fuckin yes.
Never in a million months of Sundays did I expect us stay up when 7 pints adrift.
Love our Villa.
We'll all be 7 pints adrift tonight
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i am just so happy and so happy to be wrong, great stuff Villa great stuff Dean
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Quite calm first half but squeaky bum time second half. Well done Villa, I really thought we’d gone a few weeks or even months back but we did it. Gonna have a bloody sore head in the morning!!
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
A lot of Leeds fans with a lot to say about the Sheffield United goal that wasn’t. Am I being daft, but if you take a point from us, and also one from our goal difference, we’d still stay up on goals scored?
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
I'm genuinely surprised to see how many comments there are from bitter Leeds fans. Apparently we should have let Sheffield United walk one in just like they did for us.
Leeds should do one. Bielsa only let us walk one in because there was nothing at stake. Would he have done that if a win would have promoted them! Of course he wouldn’t. It was also some positive media, without risk, after Derby spygate
My view is one that I have spent a long time formulating, and even longer considering, all the while bearing in mind my respect for Leeds as a football club and fan base. It's the product of much time and effort, and I am confident it reflects all of the nuances of how I feel about this issue:
Fuck Leeds.
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
A lot of Leeds fans with a lot to say about the Sheffield United goal that wasn’t. Am I being daft, but if you take a point from us, and also one from our goal difference, we’d still stay up on goals scored?
In those circumstances you'd take 2 points, spawny Villa bastards 😏😏
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The way they go on about that Sheff Utd goal you'd think we conceded it deep into injury time at the end of the game.
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In the most sincerest and respectful way, the pandemic saved us.
After Leicester we were shot.
Jack looked gone, physically and mentally and the team were in disarray.
Total respect to the manager and coaches for using the lockdown as best they could, regrouping and turning it around.
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We are all Arse anal tonight.
Fuck Everton, they were always a bit too left handed for me.
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
A lot of Leeds fans with a lot to say about the Sheffield United goal that wasn’t. Am I being daft, but if you take a point from us, and also one from our goal difference, we’d still stay up on goals scored?
We'd have gone down if all results had gone the same way after that. 34 points and -27, Bournemouth above us 34 points and -25.
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Plenty of venom in the Graun comments section on the match report. At the time of this writing, no other team in the history of the game have benefited from a poor decision apparently.
A lot of Leeds fans with a lot to say about the Sheffield United goal that wasn’t. Am I being daft, but if you take a point from us, and also one from our goal difference, we’d still stay up on goals scored?
We'd have gone down if all results had gone the same way after that. 34 points and -27, Bournemouth above us 34 points and -25.
Ah, I see. Oh well. The griping is hilarious!
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy ****** like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
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Phew! That’s all.
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At 73 minutes I casually put on my socks and trainers and went for a walk.
I could not bear watching any longer and fully expected to have a coronary had I continued watching.
My Mrs and daughter just looked at me open mouthed as I walked out.
Back in at 17:57 to be met by both of them screaming we had done it !!
What an afternoon.
Love this story
UTV🙂
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
'Apologies for my language' aside, bang on!
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Phew! That’s all.
Agreed.
Come on 12th September
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
Let's not forget those Leeds W**kers
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Whenever anyone raises the Sheff Utd 'goal' I simply say I'd be happy to give back that point, as long we get one for the disallowed 'goal' at Crystal Palace.
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At 73 minutes I casually put on my socks and trainers and went for a walk.
I could not bear watching any longer and fully expected to have a coronary had I continued watching.
My Mrs and daughter just looked at me open mouthed as I walked out.
Back in at 17:57 to be met by both of them screaming we had done it !!
What an afternoon.
Love this story
UTV🙂
That is lovely mate. Chuffed for you.
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Us going down was important for other teams because we will 100% push in from here now.
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
Let's not forget those Leeds W**kers
I sadly don't mind them, but they can go on the list, too. Haha.
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
You sir are a prince amongst men.
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
That's better than the speech from Henry V
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Whenever anyone raises the Sheff Utd 'goal' I simply say I'd be happy to give back that point, as long we get one for the disallowed 'goal' at Crystal Palace.
Honestly there are so many VAR fuckeries against us this year. I don't think I'm being self-pitying either - Guardiola said effectively the same.
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Well done all. Relegation would have been a disaster for the club. Got there in the end. Awful first half performance but much better in the second. Looked like we were heading for a real Roy of the rovers type finish with Jack but it's Villa so nothing is ever easy.
Reina 4, Guilbert 7, Konsa 5, Mings 7, Targett 6, Luiz 7, Hourihane 6, McGinn 7, Grealish 8, Trez 5, Samatta 5. Davis 7, Nakamba 6, Hause 6. Smith 6
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That bottle of port will go down nicely later this evening.
With good cheese I hope.
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
An eloquent and restrained piece of prose.
Beautifully put.
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I’m not fully down with the notion of staying up as an achievement in and of itself (well OK, maybe based on where we were mid July).
But the idea of B-lose fans, the tatters and Poocastle dregs of humanity crying themselves to sleep over the unfairness of us staying up makes me all warm and tingly.
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
...and amen to that!!
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Has that Villa-obsessed Wolves fan released a new song for us, yet?
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Has that Villa-obsessed Wolves fan released a new song for us, yet?
Can you narrow it down a little bit please?
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Has that Villa-obsessed Wolves fan released a new song for us, yet?
Yes
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1287433051342082054
He's also said
Well done
@AVFCOfficial
Incredible fight back from 7 points adrift, and fully deserved
Thank you for all the great banter this season, as far as I'm concerned our clash is over. I'll donate some money towards
@AcornsHospice
as a truce.
WBA however...
Get ready for revenge...
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Well, house to myself this afternoon, so took the dog out (no phone) back for 5.15 and put something on Netflix to kill the time. Fell asleep and woke at 6.20, couldn't get this site to load, (which I took as a good sign) so loaded the BBC site, and as it loaded the first picture I see is Jack, arms out, with a huge smile on my face. Job done I thought but boy it was close. Please can we not have to go through this again next season. Cheers
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Has that Villa-obsessed Wolves fan released a new song for us, yet?
Yep:
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1287433051342082054 (https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1287433051342082054)
I like him actually, seems a good sport, and made a donation to Acorns at the end of it.
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Well, fair play to him.
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Has that Villa-obsessed Wolves fan released a new song for us, yet?
Yep:
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1287433051342082054 (https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1287433051342082054)
I like him actually, seems a good sport, and made a donation to Acorns at the end of it.
Yeah, fair play to him taking it on the chin. Hopefully he’ll lose his virginity soon.
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Up The Fucking Villa
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036846/keane-unimpressed-by-villas-changing-room-celebrations
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I like Roy Keane but I wouldn't want to be around him when the laughter stops.
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The whole Sheffield United thing is ridiculous. There was still 45 mins of that game.
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I couldn't take it, I went fishing instead. I got a phone call from the wife at six-o-clock moaning that dinner was ready and I wasn't home. I got through the door to a load of gloomy faces which coupled with her moaning wasn't a good sign. Logged on, saw the result but still had to check the table to see if it was true. Cue much piss taking as I'd been set up to make it seem as though we'd lost. Shitholes but I forgive them. I really can't take that level of stress anymore.
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
An eloquent and restrained piece of prose.
Beautifully put.
I'm still laughing. Funny as fuck and he has the temerity to apologise for his language. Great rant.
The thought of having to go to the Sty twice next season did not fill me with good cheer. Blues will go down next season too.
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I have only just realised how much I have sweated through my T-shirt all through today's games. You would think I had played the ninety minutes rather than followed it in the comfort of my home.
did you stop for water breaks and change your shirt at half time though?
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I like Roy Keane but I wouldn't want to be around him when the laughter stops.
I think he is a man that knows no joy. If he was any good, he'd be managing a team.
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Well, house to myself this afternoon, so took the dog out (no phone) back for 5.15 and put something on Netflix to kill the time. Fell asleep and woke at 6.20, couldn't get this site to load, (which I took as a good sign) so loaded the BBC site, and as it loaded the first picture I see is Jack, arms out, with a huge smile on my face. Job done I thought but boy it was close. Please can we not have to go through this again next season. Cheers
I read the first sentence of your post and wondered why you didn't let your dog take his/her phone with them ;)
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I like Roy Keane but I wouldn't want to be around him when the laughter stops.
Living up to his personna- I thought he looked pleased
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What a f**king day. Sorry to come over all “I told you so”, but that’s how you see out a game. Many have criticised Dean for his game management skills this season.
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Fuck every supporter from every other club that wished us ill.
We stayed up and you'll just have to fucking accept it, fuckers. Suck my balls. Poxy twats supporting poxy c***s like Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, West Brom, and those half fingered scrotums at the Sty. Fuck you all. Apologies for my language.
Up the fucking Villa! Rampage time.
An eloquent and restrained piece of prose.
Beautifully put.
I'm still laughing. Funny as fuck and he has the temerity to apologise for his language. Great rant.
The thought of having to go to the Sty twice next season did not fill me with good cheer. Blues will go down next season too.
that is ace, showed my wife and she was laughing, excellent
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036846/keane-unimpressed-by-villas-changing-room-celebrations
I'm not going to watch it, but I'd just like to say shit off, ******, you're one of the catalogue of people who chipped in with their fucking uselessness to nearly send us into oblivion.
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I suggest you watch it then.
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Us going down was important for other teams because we will 100% push in from here now.
There is a fear element in that for sure. Read it from West Ham and Wolves fans.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036846/keane-unimpressed-by-villas-changing-room-celebrations
His comments on the celebrations were to be expected. Less rational is the seeming acceptance by some - Keane included - that every kick of every ball in every game that followed the Sheffield United 'disallowed goal' would have been exactly the same had that goal been given.
I'm not going to watch it, but I'd just like to say shit off, c***, you're one of the catalogue of people who chipped in with their fucking uselessness to nearly send us into oblivion.
Quote fail. Sorry. I need to eat.
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Roy Keane being unimpressed is at this stage like Norman Wisdom falling over. Totally expected and an accepted part of his stage persona.
Don't celebrate getting to a final, celebrate when you win the trophy. Don't celebrate winning the trophy you have to push on and prove it wasn't a fluke. Blah blah.. zzzz
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I suggest you watch it then.
Alright then, I'd now like to add 'joyless' to my description.
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Well, house to myself this afternoon, so took the dog out (no phone) back for 5.15 and put something on Netflix to kill the time. Fell asleep and woke at 6.20, couldn't get this site to load, (which I took as a good sign) so loaded the BBC site, and as it loaded the first picture I see is Jack, arms out, with a huge smile on my face. Job done I thought but boy it was close. Please can we not have to go through this again next season. Cheers
I read the first sentence of your post and wondered why you didn't let your dog take his/her phone with them ;)
I agree Damo. Having read that back, I think it's draconian not to let the dog take his phone. Ditton, you miserablist, I am going to report you to the RSPCA if there's any more of this punishment type stuff.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
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I sort of agree with him, staying up should never be a cause for celebration at Villa. But the circumstances of being all but gone 4 games ago, the weird year etc means I fully understand the players spontaneous joy and it's great to see the togetherness. I do hope the club doen't bang on about too much about it though.
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1. There are lot of “we are definitely down” posters on here as far back as October.
2. Let’s not lose sight of what a bottle job Everton are.
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Understand them celebrating (even if that’s not something Villa should be about).
Annoyed some clart filmed it and Sky got hold of it.
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I couldn't bear to watch the game, even though we have BT Sport, or go online. Succumbed and turned over to see our goal and unfortunately their goal. Think my blood pressure is just about back to normal.
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Could not be happier for Smith and the lads. Well done.
A cup final and PL survival in the teeth of VAR and the worst refereeing since that 'Hand of God' non-goal in the World Cup. A new squad from bare bones 12 months ago, things built, mistakes made and I hope lessons learned. Massive smile will not leave my face for a week.
So fuck the titty-babbies on here, fuck the idiots of all teams wishing us ill and fuck the professional carpers and grifters whoever they support; we are Villa.
Titty-babbies? Nice.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
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In a parallel universe we've just been relegated with Sam Allardyce as manager.
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This was as important as the promotion final game, although nowhere near as enjoyable, but..bloody hell...what a relief.
A very happy bunny.
Hope Jack stays.
4 quality players needed for next season.
Blood pressure still not back to normal.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
You know they do. They also believe their ground's bigger than ours.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Yes, yes they do.
I moved from the midlands,when I was 18. Lived in the south of England and london and now in Spain. It doesn't matter where I have lived, there have always been more Wolves fans than any other midlands club. Most times, more than all the west midlands clubs put together.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Snigger
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I was listening to it on Radio 5 Live while watching finalscore, which was about 2 mins ahead of the radio.
Couldn't believe how inept they seemed to be playing, but somehow they did it. Not sure how.
Feel sorry for Bournemouth as they played positive for their final game, but not at our expense.
Oh and Garth Crooks can be a bit of arse at times
Still, we stayed up!!!!!!
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Them and their fan base is like small heath and Villa fans in Brum, they've both peddled it for so long they finally started to believe it and as far as they are both are concerend it's now FACT!
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Could not be happier for Smith and the lads. Well done.
A cup final and PL survival in the teeth of VAR and the worst refereeing since that 'Hand of God' non-goal in the World Cup. A new squad from bare bones 12 months ago, things built, mistakes made and I hope lessons learned. Massive smile will not leave my face for a week.
So fuck the titty-babbies on here, fuck the idiots of all teams wishing us ill and fuck the professional carpers and grifters whoever they support; we are Villa.
Titty-babbies? Nice.
There’s been a pleasant absence of this kind of stuff today. Most just seem happy with the outcome without having a pop at fellow fans. Nowt so queer as folk.
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Fosun are targeting global success, worldwide fan base, meanwhile some on here are worried a spotty little 13 year old gimp from Halesowen might ask mommy to buy him a villa shirt instead of a wolves one.
You lot keep worrying about Villa, meanwhile the rest of us will focus on how we can break the top 4.
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I couldn't bear to watch the game, even though we have BT Sport, or go online. Succumbed and turned over to see our goal and unfortunately their goal. Think my blood pressure is just about back to normal.
Same here. I had my iPad on the BBC Premier League fixtures and scores.
Oh gosh, the celebrations when we went 1 up.
And the things that were thrown when they got one back.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
I heard Steve or Stephanie bull is the most common name for new babies outside of Aston so it must be true
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What a day. I went out for an 8 mile training run this afternoon before proceedings, and every time the game popped into my head I'd have a small jolt of panic and lose my rhythm completely. I came back, put on the same clothes I'd worn on Tuesday evening, made tea in the same mug, and spent ninety minutes barely watching the game. In fact, I spent the last five minutes pacing the lawn, shaking my head and saying, 'no, no'.
But still, nice to stay up and all that.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
I listened to our game on WM, and heard a couple of them on there. They do chat as though top-third of the top division is their historical habitat, despite the fact that this is the first time they've achieved back-to-back top half finishes since 1973. Not top 4 or top 6, top half. If they can repeat the feat next season, that'll be only their second 'hat trick' of such finishes since nineteen sixty fucking one! I'm 55 this year, and in my lifetime they've finished top half 6 times. Jokers.
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I think the whole of Bournemouth heard us when Jack scored. We had all 3 games on at the same time. The stress was unbearable, but amazingly we did it. UTV
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Couldn’t watch it anyway but went into full media lockdown. Around 5.55 My wife, with a long face, said it was finished and I could check the scores.......let the celebrating begin
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Blimey, they are more bitter than the original bitters.
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Someone is sneaking heavy duty hallucinogenics into the mild out Wolvertrampton way again.
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What a day! Another 10 years aged we looked solid for the most part but very little up the pitch but we got the job done!!!
Birmingham and Coventry will have their derby next year and it won’t be against us!!!!!!
Much to build on now. We need to bring in quality now not quantity
Lansbury, Jota, El Ghazi, Taylor, Nyland and less so Elmo need to be moved on and we need to replace with quality
We need a complete new front three a new left back and another midfielder if Grealish goes!
Big summer ahead but a great feeling
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Wolves fans ffs 😂😂😂
They all 'supported' Man Utd and Liverpool and the actual club were struggling to pull in 18k before the Chineese rocked up.
Absolute banter club.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Wolves fans ffs 😂😂😂
They all 'supported' Man Utd and Liverpool and the actual club were struggling to pull in 18k before the Chineese rocked up.
Absolute banter club.
Deluded twats! Really getting above their Station. They've won one League cup in 40 odd years! Small 30,000 stadium capacity.
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Thank you Arsenal......useless arseholes Everton!
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Remind them about the Bhatti brothers.
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There are a lot of bell ends on the Guardian banging on about how the Sheff Utd 'goal' kept us up. A Sky presenter said the same thing. Dean just said 'Crystal Palace, 96th minute.' Which is the correct answer, among others.
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I live in Bournemouth and the meltdown here is unreal....we have cheated due to the Sheffield Ghost Goal and wouldn't be surprised if they filed a law suit about it.. laughable but sooooo sad (and funny, I'm having a field day....)
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Couldn’t watch it anyway but went into full media lockdown. Around 5.55 My wife, with a long face, said it was finished and I could check the scores.......let the celebrating begin
my partner of 33 years went to bed at 7pm totally pissed off at today's results .......once a blue nose, always a blue nose....it was pay back time for me for the Enckleman debacle all those years ago
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It's incredible how many beard-wearing YouTubers named Josh are going on about how we cheated and Bournemouth should sue. It's football. Mistakes happen.
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Well done to the Villa boys on staying up.Must admit i thought we had gone after the United game. A great day was made even better upon hearing the dingles lost and failed to even reach the Europa league .A couple of weeks ago we were going down and they were on the way to the top four Haha dream on
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It was funny on Final Score, Dion Dublin dissing the bluenose Karen Garney
Also her brummie accent has come back after being back in brum for 5 mins, and getting dissed by every villa fan who saw her
;D ;D ;D
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
They have a massive support outside the Midlands. Apparently. Wolves and big support? OK.
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It was funny on Final Score, Dion Dublin dissing the bluenose Karen Garney
Also her brummie accent has come back after being back in brum for 5 mins, and getting dissed by every villa fan who saw her
;D ;D ;D
Karen Carney only played for the Blues, I think she is a Villa fan on the quiet.
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I liked how Andy Townsend’s bias came out on commentary when he said “oh no” when West Ham scored.
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It's incredible how many beard-wearing YouTubers named Josh are going on about how we cheated and Bournemouth should sue. It's football. Mistakes happen.
One points out that the Sheff Utd decision robbed them of a goal, whereas the Palace decision robbed us of a point and they say 'yeah but that was a different kind of mistake'.
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I live in Bournemouth and the meltdown here is unreal....we have cheated due to the Sheffield Ghost Goal and wouldn't be surprised if they filed a law suit about it.. laughable but sooooo sad (and funny, I'm having a field day....)
In fairness, they've had no other games since mid June to redress the balance so I feel their pain.
Also, it's not like that big wardrobe they have playing in midfield shouldn't have been sent off early on at Villa Park in August.
They ended the season with at least three more points than they deserve.
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It's incredible how many beard-wearing YouTubers named Josh are going on about how we cheated and Bournemouth should sue. It's football. Mistakes happen.
One points out that the Sheff Utd decision robbed them of a goal, whereas the Palace decision robbed us of a point and they say 'yeah but that was a different kind of mistake'.
It’s ridiculous. It was a poor decision, but there was still half a game left and there’s been 9 games since. It’s not that big.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
They have a massive support outside the Midlands. Apparently. Wolves and big support? OK.
They're massive alright, I've never seen an adult type under 18 stone.
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It's incredible how many beard-wearing YouTubers named Josh are going on about how we cheated and Bournemouth should sue. It's football. Mistakes happen.
One points out that the Sheff Utd decision robbed them of a goal, whereas the Palace decision robbed us of a point and they say 'yeah but that was a different kind of mistake'.
It's not even that, it's the whole WAAAAAAAAAH it's not FAIR!!!!! bollocks that's come into football now.
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It's incredible how many beard-wearing YouTubers named Josh are going on about how we cheated and Bournemouth should sue. It's football. Mistakes happen.
One points out that the Sheff Utd decision robbed them of a goal, whereas the Palace decision robbed us of a point and they say 'yeah but that was a different kind of mistake'.
Yeah, it wasn't the technology that let us down, the cheating bellend with the whistle denied us even that.
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Shame about that wild deflection, but proud of the lads over the last few games and I’m looking forward seeing what happens next season.
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Shame about that wild deflection, but proud of the lads over the last few games and I’m looking forward seeing what happens next season.
Welcome back!
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Since leaving Birmingham in 1994 I have lived in two separate Northants addresses and now I live in Surrey. I have played, coached and managed football teams in those areas and can honestly say that the only Wolves fan I ever met was a guy I played 5-a-side with on a Monday night in Towcester, Northants. One. Single. Wolves. Fan.
One.
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Think it was Sky who posted a graphic earlier in the week which showed that Bournemouth have shipped between 50 -60 goals every year since promotion.
Maybe that has a bit to do with their current woes.
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Watford fan at work text me a waving hand emoji on 11th July at 15:09 when they went 7 points clear. I must admit I pretty much thought that was it. I’ve refrained from sending it back.
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Watford fan at work text me a waving hand emoji on 11th July at 15:09 when they went 7 points clear. I must admit I pretty much thought that was it. I’ve refrained from sending it back.
Don’t as the torture for him is knowing you might send it at any minute....
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Blimey, they are more bitter than the original bitters.
I had a look at that wolves forum and found it amusing and quite surprising. The level of hatred from some of them towards us is really puzzling. I don't know any Villa fan that has any such vitriol towards them. The fact that they have a thread dedicated to their dislike of us is laughable. And there's over 250 comments!! The whole thing is fucking bizarre.
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Last season their Villa thread was massive.
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Well done to the Villa boys on staying up.Must admit i thought we had gone after the United game. A great day was made even better upon hearing the dingles lost and failed to even reach the Europa league .A couple of weeks ago we were going down and they were on the way to the top four Haha dream on
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I have to hold my hands up and admit that I never thought that was possible after the meek surrender against Man Utd. A quite amazing turnaround in the last 4 games. How much was down to the manager and how much was the players I don't know, but a massive well done from where we were!
Unbeaten since my book came out. You’re welcome.
And the only team in Premier League history to win on each separate day of the week in one season.
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I was quite calm during the game.
First half was all about getting the job done and no WH foams against.
Second half, much of the same, but...wow we took the gave to them!!
In both halves we had chances from open play, but we restricted WH heavily.
I was watching with a fellow Tooting and Mitcham fan...Antonio’s original club,
Thank fuck he scuffed!!!
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I have to hold my hands up and admit that I never thought that was possible after the meek surrender against Man Utd. A quite amazing turnaround in the last 4 games. How much was down to the manager and how much was the players I don't know, but a massive well done from where we were!
Unbeaten since my book came out. You’re welcome.
And the only team in Premier League history to win on each separate day of the week in one season.
We've also been beaten by Man Utd on every day of the week in the Premier League.
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Hours since our survival.. Still grinning like a child.
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Job done. Well done, lads
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1287437514920398851?s=20
Brilliant.
Check out the replies! The saltiest salt in salt land.
The mis-spelling of "you're" in the first reply tells me all I need to know about the calibre of the individuals who have replied. Muppets.
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Good stuff. Me and my 14 month old did a jig of delight. He was very happy. Love it he was a day old when we beat the Bitters on pens last year and Villa attired ar 2 weeks old when we beat Derby.
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Unbeaten since my book came out. You’re welcome.
Quality. Hopefully they'll mention that on MOTD tonight.
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It's incredible how many beard-wearing YouTubers named Josh are going on about how we cheated and Bournemouth should sue. It's football. Mistakes happen.
One points out that the Sheff Utd decision robbed them of a goal, whereas the Palace decision robbed us of a point and they say 'yeah but that was a different kind of mistake'.
It’s ridiculous. It was a poor decision, but there was still half a game left and there’s been 9 games since. It’s not that big.
How about Mane should have been red carded at VP? Or Manure at ours when we capitulated the game only from when a dodgy penalty was given by both the ref and VAR and was officially mentioned as a mistake. (The same night Spurs should have also had one against Bournemouth so one point less for them seems to be conveniently forgotten as well).
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I’m friends with a lovely Wolves fan on Twitter and my partner’s dad (RIP both) was Wolves, so I say good luck to Villa and Wolves next season.
I’m far too happy tonight to throw mud at anybody.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
They have a massive support outside the Midlands. Apparently. Wolves and big support? OK.
Apparently one of them as seen plenty of Wolves shirts in Manchester but not Villa or Tesco's. He doesn't mention whether he only seems to see them in reflections....
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The more squealing from the haters about us staying up, the more I love it. Bring it all on, bastards.
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Think it was Sky who posted a graphic earlier in the week which showed that Bournemouth have shipped between 50 -60 goals every year since promotion.
Maybe that has a bit to do with their current woes.
I wonder if their local paper has been selling Callum Wilson to all and sundry or whether it is unique to the Midlands.
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I’m still buzzing at Villa’s comeback from being 7 points adrift of safety 4 games ago.
But our finest moment was not giving the Nazi salute.
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It was funny on Final Score, Dion Dublin dissing the bluenose Karen Garney
Also her brummie accent has come back after being back in brum for 5 mins, and getting dissed by every villa fan who saw her
;D ;D ;D
Karen Carney only played for the Blues, I think she is a Villa fan on the quiet.
I went to school with her Uncle and played Sunday League with him. The Carneys were big Villa fans.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
They have a massive support outside the Midlands. Apparently. Wolves and big support? OK.
If, one day, I meet a Wolves fan, I'm going to ask him/her how they feel about us.
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As days go its been a pretty good one, Villa stay up and Deeney goes down.
Should sleep well tonight.
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I'd like to take a minute to spare a thought for the fans of Liverpool, sha, Wolves, Newcastle, Coventry, Albion, Bristol City, and all the others that have a weird Villa obsession and say haha we love your bitterness. And enjoy that feeling of that Sheff United non goal.
Love from the spawny bastards.
Absolutely this. Fuck all of them.
Bristol City and Liverpool fans are not obsessed with Villa, nor to a lesser extent Newcastle. The others are because they’re local. Enjoy the moment.
yEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!
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I've lived all over the country, and don't think I've ever met a single Wolves fan out in the wild. They probably think that Dudley is the limit of the known universe.
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That W Ham goal was so flukey.
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They congregate in Wolverhampton and Walsall.
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That W Ham goal was so flukey.
It's not the first time that Reina has been too slow getting back though. A taller, younger keeper would have got that. Still, he played his part in keeping us up, but I'm looking forward to Heaton being back next year.
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Same here.
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Would still keep him as back-up along with Steer.
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Any ideas on when Heaton will be back?
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I’m still buzzing at Villa’s comeback from being 7 points adrift of safety 4 games ago.
But our finest moment was not giving the Nazi salute.
Agree
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I've known 4 wolves fans. Two from Wolverhampton, one of which was a die-hard in the eighties (barrel of laughs he wasn't), another whose dad was from Wolverhampton, and another originally from Wolverhampton who was happy to have a season ticket at the stripeyfilth to placate his missus.
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An emotional post match interview tribute from Dean Smith dedicated to his Dad and also you could see Mings was in tears at the final whistle. Apparently Bournemouth weren't happy at Everton flashing up the goals/latest scores on the scoreboard during the game.
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Crying. Lost my dad May 29th. He wasn’t a football fan. A me fan. 2020. Shite year. Thank you villa.
I feel for you. My brother, who made me a Villa supporter, died last February after a tragic accident in his garden. Our first game after his death was the first of our run of 10 wins on the trot. Then we were promoted. As you say, crying. Tears for him and for what he had missed. UTV
Best wishes to you both.
Indeed, good wishes.
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An emotional post match interview tribute from Dean Smith dedicated to his Dad and also you could see Mings was in tears at the final whistle. Apparently Bournemouth weren't happy at Everton flashing up the goals/latest scores on the scoreboard during the game.
Bit strange, they had to win no matter what.
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I've known 4 wolves fans. Two from Wolverhampton, one of which was a die-hard in the eighties (barrel of laughs he wasn't), another whose dad was from Wolverhampton, and another originally from Wolverhampton who was happy to have a season ticket at the stripeyfilth to placate his missus.
I have a mate who is a big Wolves fan. He doesn't even acknowledge West Bromwich as a place let alone the football team they have. He describes the whole place as "Just a bus stop in Smethwick"
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An emotional post match interview tribute from Dean Smith dedicated to his Dad and also you could see Mings was in tears at the final whistle. Apparently Bournemouth weren't happy at Everton flashing up the goals/latest scores on the scoreboard during the game.
Bit strange, they had to win no matter what.
Maybe he thought it was a bit of psychology and a distraction.
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I know a lot of Tatters, their ‘rivalry’ with us is all down to a deep seated inferiority complex.
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Stourbridge has got a cocky contingent.
Wolves have patches of support in Telford/Shropshire
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From their forum (first time I ever visited, thanks to Dave W for posting on here):
"On their forum I've had a look and jesus christ it reminds me (Not that I need reminding btw how ****ing stupid they are)
"Now talking about potential Europe next season and how Dean the **** head Smith needs a good window and they will once again be the top Midlands club. Definitely a top 7 finish one said, Wolves bottled it and we are stronger already another said, us and Albion will show the Dingles who is top mob said another"
Think I must've missed those posts...
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Would be nice if we could get back to expressing relief at our draw and survival in the Premier League.
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So pleased and relieved to stay up. Let's face it even the most optimistic of us thought we were done a couple of weeks back. Let's not be in this position next season. Hope the owners have a plan. If it involves ditching Deano, much as I love the bloke, so be it.
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It was funny on Final Score, Dion Dublin dissing the bluenose Karen Garney
Also her brummie accent has come back after being back in brum for 5 mins, and getting dissed by every villa fan who saw her
;D ;D ;D
Karen Carney only played for the Blues, I think she is a Villa fan on the quiet.
I went to school with her Uncle and played Sunday League with him. The Carneys were big Villa fans.
Fair enough, it must have been playful banter between them, but she did say she couldn't show her face in Birmingham these days, or words like that when they were on the radio earlier.
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It won't.
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Would be nice if we could get back to expressing relief at our draw and survival in the Premier League.
Sorry, I would've put my last post in the Wolves thread, if I could find it. So inconvenient. Thankfully they have no such problem finding the Villa thread on their forum.
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Forget what other teams are saying. It is unimportant.
We stayed up. In a very positive manner.
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Would be nice if we could get back to expressing relief at our draw and survival in the Premier League.
Sorry, I would've put my last post in the Wolves thread, if I could find it. So inconvenient. Thankfully they have no such problem finding the Villa thread on their forum.
That was not aimed at you. Just a generic post.
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As days go its been a pretty good one, Villa stay up and Deeney goes down.
Should sleep well tonight.
I think Deeney is a great guy in how a cares about other people and considers himself very fortunate. Tonight his interview underlined that when he said it's not the players at Watford who'll be affected by relegation its those who work at the club and the fans.
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Forget what other teams are saying. It is unimportant.
We stayed up. In a very positive manner.
Absolutely. I always loved it when the local teams were in different leagues. No derbies as they just take points away. We are Aston Villa...
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Couldn’t watch it anyway but went into full media lockdown. Around 5.55 My wife, with a long face, said it was finished and I could check the scores.......let the celebrating begin
And I was only saying the obvious when I said Bournemouth could win at Everton ;) Enjoy the next few days mate I know I will.
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I spent the game decorating ( started on Tuesday for the Arsenal game so decided it’s my new lucky hobby) and decided to do without the radio ( I haven’t got sky / BT and radio commentary makes me shit myself) though I was receiving texts constantly. Every one making me more nervous than the last....
A very stressful afternoon but massive sighs of relief. I just hope we can consolidate now and avoid this last minute stressfest next season. Well done to all the players and staff - a great escape.
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Absolutely made up,well done all at the club,A lad i work with(50 year old actually,from Wolverhampton,Wolve's fan),We are both on furlough,Since May,whatsapped me after the game,Hi mate,how are you,U.T.V,lovely man.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036846/keane-unimpressed-by-villas-changing-room-celebrations
I totally agree with him. Players of Aston Villa Football Club should not be celebrating finishing fourth from bottom and escaping relegation by a point.
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As days go its been a pretty good one, Villa stay up and Deeney goes down.
Should sleep well tonight.
I think Deeney is a great guy in how a cares about other people and considers himself very fortunate. Tonight his interview underlined that when he said it's not the players at Watford who'll be affected by relegation its those who work at the club and the fans.
My take too Aftab. He’s a pantomime villain when they play us but I like his honesty and the fact he has had to work his way up makes him seem to genuinely appreciate where he is now.
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I spent the game decorating ( started on Tuesday for the Arsenal game so decided it’s my new lucky hobby) and decided to do without the radio ( I haven’t got sky / BT and radio commentary makes me shit myself) though I was receiving texts constantly. Every one making me more nervous than the last....
A very stressful afternoon but massive sighs of relief. I just hope we can consolidate now and avoid this last minute stressfest next season. Well done to all the players and staff - a great escape.
Did something similar by trimming...well murdering the hedge. Waited for sarcastic texts to arrive from friends who support other local team and nothing came so I sort of knew things were not going disastrously wrong.
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My take on the last two posts; Deeney’s a really decent bloke. Roy Keane really isn’t, he’s a sociopathic narcissist.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036846/keane-unimpressed-by-villas-changing-room-celebrations
I totally agree with him. Players of Aston Villa Football Club should not be celebrating finishing fourth from bottom and escaping relegation by a point.
Sorry Aftab but I really disagree. A thrown together group, seven points from safety with four games to go, cannot celebrate just because we think we are better than we are? Like I said about Roy Keane, this is an utterly joyless thing to say. If we finish 17th again next season, I would agree but given the circumstances outlined, I think it's ok to celebrate this time around.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12036846/keane-unimpressed-by-villas-changing-room-celebrations
I totally agree with him. Players of Aston Villa Football Club should not be celebrating finishing fourth from bottom and escaping relegation by a point.
The opposite for me.
Nobody wants to go through what happened today.
The players and staff turned around a hopeless situation so I’m not expecting my team to sit quietly and beat themselves up over where they’ve finished.
You show me any side that hasn’t celebrated a last day reprieve?
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We shouldn’t be celebrating in the grand scheme of things. But in the context of it all, where we were 18 months ago, how we got up, how we had to rebuild, how we lost key players to injury, how we looked dead and buried two weeks ago, escaping by a point is a massive achievement. So for one day, fuck it. Let them and us celebrate.
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Doesn't matter which football club it is: you get yourselves out of a deep hole by turning around your form to a remarkable degree, thus avoiding a "£200M catastrophe", you're entitled to celebrate your socks off.
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I agree. We should celebrate.
Keane has no joy in anything football
related.
He is every person that denigrates a ribbon for just competing in a school sports day for some wee kid who is trying their hardest.
He has no ability for empathy. He probably hates himself.
The king of the bullies.
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You stay up when everyone has you written off with 4 games to go, they've pretty much all taken some right pelters in the media, you're going to celebrate, it's a spontaneous thing to do even if staying up shouldn't be seen as an achievement for Villa. It's an outpouring of relief for the players and staff, think of the pressure they've been under, of course there'll be a release. I like seeing that togetherness.
I just don't want the club milking it, that would be small time.
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Absolutely correct. Watch when they walked down the tunnel after the game, the players were not jubilant. They were very thoughtful.
In the last 4 games they have climbed a mountain of mental and physical endeavour. They even threw a spanner in the works for the last few minutes to keep themselves on their toes mentally!!!
Celebrating is totally appropriate.
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I don't think they will. They rightly celebrated after the play off final last year, but then just got on with business. I expect they'll do the same this year.
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I don't think they will. They rightly celebrated after the play off final last year, but then just got on with business. I expect they'll do the same this year.
Yes. The players can celebrate. Tomorrow the focus on the business that needs to be done starts.
And a very tight schedule too.
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I hope Eastie comes back for a day to tell us where the players are going for their holidays.
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Noses taking the piss out of us for celebrating a last day relegation survival. That lot have celebrated more last day relegation survivals than they have Christmases.
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Noses taking the piss out of us for celebrating a last day relegation survival. That lot have celebrated more last day relegation survivals than they have Christmases.
Brought to by the fans that have a mirror celebrating draws, produced a keyring for an FA Cup 3rd round tie, and consider the game at Bolton (avoiding last day relegation to division 3) as one the great moments following their club.
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Noses taking the piss out of us for celebrating a last day relegation survival. That lot have celebrated more last day relegation survivals than they have Christmases.
Brought to by the fans that have a mirror celebrating draws, produced a keyring for an FA Cup 3rd round tie, and consider the game at Bolton (avoiding last day relegation to division 3) as one the great moments following their club.
I am old enough to remember those jizzgoblins celebrating beating Norwich to stay up on the last day of the season around 1975 with a pitch invasion and lap of honour.
If they played in Lilliput they would still be small.
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My take on the last two posts; Deeney’s a really decent bloke. Roy Keane really isn’t, he’s a sociopathic narcissist.
I think Roy Keane is good value as a TV pundit. Which is lucky for him because he has about as much chance of being a manager in the Premier League or Championship in the foreseeable future as I have.
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The most relieved I think I've ever been after a football match - now got a whole days work ahead of me on 3 hours sleep. Worth it though. UTFV.
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A month ago, I really thought we were gone and was an absolute bundle of misery. Very happy to be proved wrong.
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The most relieved I think I've ever been after a football match - now got a whole days work ahead of me on 3 hours sleep. Worth it though. UTFV.
same! Wfh helps 😉
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That wasn’t pleasant viewing but we got it done. Players and manager proved me and plenty others wrong. Fair play to them. Now we must kick on.
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Keane got relegated at Nottingham Forest in 1993 at the start of his career. I'm sure he'd have taken an cook-a-hoop dressing room to stay up.
He was also part of our woeful run under Lambert when even scoring a goal would mean a mass conga in the dressing room.
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Left the midlands in 96, then 10 years in London and now 15 years in Oz - in that time, hand on heart, i've never met a Wolves fan - not fecking one of the deluded twats.
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Security guard at a place I worked in the late 90s was a Wolves fan. Mick. Diamond bloke he was. "Sammy Chung's Chinese Takeaway!" he used to sing.
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I did see a fella in a wolves shirt last year, down by Brisbane River near where I work. I remember it because it’s the only one I’ve seen in 15 years in Aus. Compared to say Forest, Ipswich, even Sheffield weds I’ve seen a few of them getting about. Seen a few Villa, but weirdly more WBA. I’m outnumbered by them 3/1 in my own local! Maybe it’s the only clothes they’ve got which is why you see so many?
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
My mate showed me a pre-match text message he had off probably their infamous hooligan asking him ‘who sells the most claret and blue shirts, mr stats?’.
He sounded more like the fucking commercial manager than some kind of superthug.
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Deano mentioned the Palace match where "Friend" chalked off the equaliser for Jack's supposed 'dive' when Lansbury scored. We've been on the end of some shocking VAR decisions this season.
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With every goal that wasn’t like at Sheffield Utd, we’ve had our fair share of wrong doings. The goal chalked off for Jack’s heel being offside, that handball against Arsenal, the penalty the other day again against Utd and I’m sure there is more we could throw in.
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The most relieved I think I've ever been after a football match - now got a whole days work ahead of me on 3 hours sleep. Worth it though. UTFV.
Same here OzVilla. Worth it though. Mid-afternoon here now and starting to feel shattered. At least I resisted a celebration drink at 2am.
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
Would that be the same West Ham who had to pay sheff utd compensation over the Tevez affair? Or the West Ham who had to replay a league cup semi against us for fielding an illegible player.
The Sheff utd goal had nothing to do with us, down to the ref and technology. The two I mentioned were entirely down to the club.
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A word about the ref.....Michael Oliver.
Had a great game and very, very unfussy.
Has he got a soft spot for us?
He was in charge for the ‘ghost goal’ and despite knowing the mistake didn’t try to put it right with another dodgy decision in that game.
Then yesterday, didn’t blow up or hurry the players during the mins of injury time, despite some great time wasting by us.
Only played the 4 mins when he could have easily played another 1 or 2.
And then, after the game, he stood with the villa players giving updates on the Watford game and if you see some footage, he was the one who confirmed to McGinn the final score at Arsenal before the official confirmation, watched the the team celebrate and then walked off.
I like him (today).
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Avoided relegation with a 1-1.
Promoted at Swindon with a 0-0.
Won the league losing 2-0 !
When we did actually win a game it bounced off a shin !
Spawny vilers ain't we. ;D
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
They probably have 10'000s fans so not sure a few saying that are indicative of all of them. Imagine if some people saw former penners on here as indicative of Villa fans
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
I can't understand the fuss. If that goal against SheffU had counted, we would still have stayed up on goals scored.
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I was ecstatic last night but knowing we’ve upset supporters of Coventry City has just taken all the shine off it, to be honest. I think we should offer to submit to voluntary relegation. It’s only fair.
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Would this be the greatest of the so called 'great escapes'?
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
I can't understand the fuss. If that goal against SheffU had counted, we would still have stayed up on goals scored.
No we wouldn’t as goals scored only used when GD is the same and it wouldn't have been which is why we were down if Spam had won.
However we potentially would have had two extra points if the ref had decided to play on and not imagine a dive or another had decided Mane’s persistent fouling deserved a yellow so he probably would not have been on the pitch for the scouse to get the last minute winner.
And no one seems to mention Bournemouth not having a pen given against them against Spurs which would have cost them a point.
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I prefer the bile to the patronising faint praise fans reserve for what they see as lesser teams. It really is the ultimate back handed compliment.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Quite simply incorrect. I’d say in Australia, hazard a guess we’d outnumber them 10:1 maybe more. I’ve seen about three personalised Villa number plates on cars here in Melbourne. They’re absolutely nowhere near it, internationally, regionally and in the Brum vs Wolverhampton capacities.
Thinking otherwise is utterly delusional.
In Australian terms, our big representative was Bosnich, their’s was Super Kevin Muscat. What does that tell you? I was on board before Bossie but he brought a few Aussies with him in the 90’s.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Quite simply incorrect. I’d say in Australia, hazard a guess we’d outnumber them 10:1 maybe more. I’ve seen about three personalised Villa number plates on cars here in Melbourne. They’re absolutely nowhere near it, internationally, regionally and in the Brum vs Wolverhampton capacities.
Thinking otherwise is utterly delusional.
In Australian terms, our big representative was Bosnich, their’s was Super Kevin Muscat. What does that tell you? I was on board before Bossie but he brought a few Aussies with him in the 90’s.
And there's barely a Wolves fan in the whole of Ireland. Can't imagine many in the Americas either. Who do they think they are? :D
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
I can't understand the fuss. If that goal against SheffU had counted, we would still have stayed up on goals scored.
No we wouldn’t as goals scored only used when GD is the same and it wouldn't have been which is why we were down if Spam had won.
However we potentially would have had two extra points if the ref had decided to play on and not imagine a dive or another had decided Mane’s persistent fouling deserved a yellow so he probably would not have been on the pitch for the scouse to get the last minute winner.
And no one seems to mention Bournemouth not having a pen given against them against Spurs which would have cost them a point.
Yes. My mistake. Arithmetic malfunction.
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Arry redknapp complimenting us on beeb breakfast.
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If Sheffield United would definitely have beaten us if not for the dodgy decision, then we would definitely have drawn with Man U if not for their ludicrous, VAR-endorsed, penalty. Add the Palace and Arsenal decisions, and I don't think sensible people can exactly moan that we stayed up by good fortune.
Bitter, obsessed thickos still will, though, of course.
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Would this be the greatest of the so called 'great escapes'?
Probably up there. Think I'd still have Fulham in 2008 (2-0 down after 70 minutes and winning 3-2 in a game that they had to win or they were mathematically down) and Leicester 2015 (22 points from the last 27 available after being seven points adrift at the bottom).
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Quite simply incorrect. I’d say in Australia, hazard a guess we’d outnumber them 10:1 maybe more. I’ve seen about three personalised Villa number plates on cars here in Melbourne. They’re absolutely nowhere near it, internationally, regionally and in the Brum vs Wolverhampton capacities.
Thinking otherwise is utterly delusional.
In Australian terms, our big representative was Bosnich, their’s was Super Kevin Muscat. What does that tell you? I was on board before Bossie but he brought a few Aussies with him in the 90’s.
And there's barely a Wolves fan in the whole of Ireland. Can't imagine many in the Americas either. Who do they think they are? :D
Never meta Doghead stripey or Blose over here or ever seen anyone in their shirts.
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My son said to me after the match, maybe we’ll do a Leicester next season, e.g. great escape then carry the momentum forward and win the league....ahem!! Oh to be a kid!
Some other reflections. I’ve got a hangover appropriate to my celebrations, so why shouldn’t the players, we were gone two weeks ago. But yes once the head clears, back to business ASAP.
Wolves?? It’s WBA (as I have a lot of baggies mates), blues, then probably Cov even though we haven’t played them for 20 years, then wolves a bit after, I really couldn’t give a shite about them.
Luck evens itself out. Lansbury goal at palace, hourihane shot at Arsenal that I think was going in but for the handball, I’m sure there was a dodgy VAR at home to Burnley? We stayed up as they stuck together as a team, had a game plan and held their nerve.
Maybe for a different thread, Smith stays for me.
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Would this be the greatest of the so called 'great escapes'?
Probably up there. Think I'd still have Fulham in 2008 (2-0 down after 70 minutes and winning 3-2 in a game that they had to win or they were mathematically down) ...
So, what you're saying is that we DID actually do a Fulham??!!!
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And then, after the game, he stood with the villa players giving updates on the Watford game and if you see some footage, he was the one who confirmed to McGinn the final score at Arsenal before the official confirmation, watched the the team celebrate and then walked off.
Yes I noticed that and thought it was a good gesture by the official and slightly surprising.
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What an exhausing afternoon. So pleased for Smith and the lads, an excellent achievment and well deserved. We have a real opportunity to kick on from here, lets hope we take it.
As for Wolves, they deserve all the plaudits they are getting but to suggest they are anywhere near the size we are is laughable.,
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If Sheffield United would definitely have beaten us if not for the dodgy decision, then we would definitely have drawn with Man U if not for their ludicrous, VAR-endorsed, penalty. Add the Palace and Arsenal decisions, and I don't think sensible people can exactly moan that we stayed up by good fortune.
Bitter, obsessed thickos still will, though, of course.
What was the Arsenal decision, from the 3-2 in September I presume?
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What an exhausing afternoon. So pleased for Smith and the lads, an excellent achievment and well deserved. We have a real opportunity to kick on from here, lets hope we take it.
As for Wolves, they deserve all the plaudits they are getting but to suggest they are anywhere near the size we are is laughable.,
My thoughts!
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Would this be the greatest of the so called 'great escapes'?
Probably up there. Think I'd still have Fulham in 2008 (2-0 down after 70 minutes and winning 3-2 in a game that they had to win or they were mathematically down) and Leicester 2015 (22 points from the last 27 available after being seven points adrift at the bottom).
Aye, Fulham were close to going down in the three games prior to that n'all.
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If Sheffield United would definitely have beaten us if not for the dodgy decision, then we would definitely have drawn with Man U if not for their ludicrous, VAR-endorsed, penalty. Add the Palace and Arsenal decisions, and I don't think sensible people can exactly moan that we stayed up by good fortune.
Bitter, obsessed thickos still will, though, of course.
What was the Arsenal decision, from the 3-2 in September I presume?
We should of definately had a penalty for a handball.
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Would this be the greatest of the so called 'great escapes'?
Probably up there. Think I'd still have Fulham in 2008 (2-0 down after 70 minutes and winning 3-2 in a game that they had to win or they were mathematically down) ...
So, what you're saying is that we DID actually do a Fulham??!!!
Oh brother!
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Stiliyan Petrov interview coming up on Talksport.
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Fuck me, I have a bad head this morning. Red wine doesn't agree with me.
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Stiliyan Petrov's answer to Roy Keane's criticism of Villa players celebrating survival - "I hope they drank a lot yesterday and I hope they are still drinking today"!
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Brilliant stuff, I've been very happy today.
Fingers crossed we can keep all our better players and improve the squad for next season. We have the makings of a very good side if we add three or four quality players.
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I was ecstatic last night but knowing we’ve upset supporters of Coventry City has just taken all the shine off it, to be honest. I think we should offer to submit to voluntary relegation. It’s only fair.
The same cov promoted when league one was cancelled? Boo boo. They have their we hate the vile more than you derby to look forward to.
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Danny Murphy saying Stiliyan Petrov was one of the toughest opponents he ever faced.
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I was ecstatic last night but knowing we’ve upset supporters of Coventry City has just taken all the shine off it, to be honest. I think we should offer to submit to voluntary relegation. It’s only fair.
The same cov promoted when league one was cancelled? Boo boo. They have their we hate the vile more than you derby to look forward to.
Twice at the same ground as well.
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Danny Murphy saying Stiliyan Petrov was one of the toughest opponents he ever faced.
Petrov is *exactly* the sort of player we really, really needed this season.
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It does seem strange that it's WHam fans are making more fuss over 'Bournemouth' should sue over the SheffUtd goal that wasn't - on their KUMB site they have a 35 page thread on it!
On the Bournemouth site, they briefly mention it, but realise they would see petty if they did.
WHam fans, strange lot, aren't they?
I can't understand the fuss. If that goal against SheffU had counted, we would still have stayed up on goals scored.
No we wouldn’t as goals scored only used when GD is the same and it wouldn't have been which is why we were down if Spam had won.
However we potentially would have had two extra points if the ref had decided to play on and not imagine a dive or another had decided Mane’s persistent fouling deserved a yellow so he probably would not have been on the pitch for the scouse to get the last minute winner.
And no one seems to mention Bournemouth not having a pen given against them against Spurs which would have cost them a point.
Or the pen we should of had at Bournemouth when their keeper smacked Engels in the face.
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What an exhausing afternoon. So pleased for Smith and the lads, an excellent achievment and well deserved. We have a real opportunity to kick on from here, lets hope we take it.
As for Wolves, they deserve all the plaudits they are getting but to suggest they are anywhere near the size we are is laughable.,
My thoughts!
The last time anyone outside of Wolverhampton or West Bromwich gave a toss about Wolves was in the 1950's.
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Or Billings committing 4 bookable offences in 45 minutes back in August. Hard luck Bournemouth.
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Yeah, I did think Billings deserved to go down for getting away with murder against us
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That was so hard to watch. The tension and nerves all the way through gave me a huge headache so ended up going to bed early but it feels so good this morning talking about it with friends and family.
My 7-year old had no such problem - he spent the hours leading up to it in his room making flags and drawing pictures of lions to stick around the house and said all the way through that we’d be ok. Wish I had been that cool about it!
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Fuck me, I have a bad head this morning. Red wine doesn't agree with me.
HUR, HUR!
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
Quite simply incorrect. I’d say in Australia, hazard a guess we’d outnumber them 10:1 maybe more. I’ve seen about three personalised Villa number plates on cars here in Melbourne. They’re absolutely nowhere near it, internationally, regionally and in the Brum vs Wolverhampton capacities.
Thinking otherwise is utterly delusional.
In Australian terms, our big representative was Bosnich, their’s was Super Kevin Muscat. What does that tell you? I was on board before Bossie but he brought a few Aussies with him in the 90’s.
And there's barely a Wolves fan in the whole of Ireland. Can't imagine many in the Americas either. Who do they think they are? :D
There are three in town here, a solicitor and his twin sons. I think I posted before but the solicitor attended Wolverhampton University so that's where his affinity comes from.
My sister-in-law is a retired schoolteacher that taught in St. Gerard's school on Castle Vale, one of her kids was former Villa player Mark Burke who went on to play for Wolves, she also taught the solicitors boys here. When I told him this little story; on his next visit over he looked up Mark Burke, told him where he was from and then related the coincidental story about his boys being taught by the same teacher at different times in different countries. He told me that Mark Burke remembered my sister-in-law with fondness and I think he said Mark gave him a quick tour of Molineaux.
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For those calling us jammy here's the main things I recall from poor decisions by refs and VAR:
In our favour
Liverpool goal disallowed by VAR for very marginal offside
Palace goal disallowed for handball when off the shoulder
Sheffield United’s goal not picked up by goal line technology
Against us:
Kevin “Friend” disallowing a goal for a player diving who had been fouled twice in the build up
Blatant handball at Arsenal denied by Jon Moss – VAR fails to overturn it.
Blatant interference by Arsenal players in the wall not penalised by Jon Moss or VAR allowing Arsenal to score their second
Perfectly good goal against Brighton disallowed for a supposed foul on the keeper, who jumped into Wesley.
Penalty awarded against Mings at Leicester when the ball hit his shoulder
Shocking penalty decision by Jon Moss against Man Yew, again VAR fails to overturn a clear and obvious error confirmed later by the PL.
Blatant penalty for Spurs against Bournemouth not given by VAR later declared another error.
Mane not being sent off before he got Liverpool's winner.
I can't recall much else but there's probably a few more that have gone against us- on balance, jammy is not the word I would use.
As for Wolves fans, I knew just one growing up in Smethwick, and can't recall meeting any at all while living in London, Norwich, Hertfordshire, Sussex, and various parts of Europe. Nor on my travels. I've met loads of Villa, a surprisingly large number of bluenoses and and a fair few Albion, but no Wolves that I can recall.
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I love that everything against us was ‘blatant’.
Made me chuckle.
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You do get a few Wolves fans in Ireland - mainly it's the fifties connection. However, the best way to tell national/international support is to look at BHX on a matchday. You'll see a couple of Stripeys, the occasional Nose and to be fair, a fair few Wolves fans. You'll also, most home games, see a veritable trail of claret & blue despondency leading to the Ryanair Dublin gate, and a good number off to Edinburgh & Belfast. We really are in a different league.
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
Given our links over the past seventy years I would hope so. The trouble is that there's a massive gap between 'one of' and the best two or three.
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
Given our links over the past seventy years I would hope so. The trouble is that there's a massive gap between 'one of' and the best two or three.
Yes, from my experience in Cork and the South West, we're behind only Liverpool, Man Utd and Celtic, though we are a long way behind.
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
Possibly but light years behind Liverpool and Manu.
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You do get a few Wolves fans in Ireland - mainly it's the fifties connection. However, the best way to tell national/international support is to look at BHX on a matchday. You'll see a couple of Stripeys, the occasional Nose and to be fair, a fair few Wolves fans. You'll also, most home games, see a veritable trail of claret & blue despondency leading to the Ryanair Dublin gate, and a good number off to Edinburgh & Belfast. We really are in a different league.
TBH I've never met a Wolves or Albion fan in Ireland and just one Blues fan at a house party about 30 years ago. There's a good few Villa fans here in comparison. My impression is that most of the Irish that went to Brum (like my dad in 1959) chose Villa apart from some of those from the less salubrious parts of Dublin.
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Worked at a very large company in Nottingham for 10 years. Many were Forest or Derby fans.
Villa fans 9 or 10
Blues fans 5
Wolves fans 2
Albion fans 1.
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Hi
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I'm over the moon and my nerves are back to normal I'm so happy right now.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
In a sea of Stevie Bullshit that was the post that stood out to me too.
In Cayman there's only one Wolves fan (from Manchester but his Dad was Wolves). There were 17 Villa fans there for the game in the Irish bar yesterday which has become a de facto Villa pub. Was always amusing when the local plastics came into watch Man U or Liverpool in the CL only to be informed the likes of Rotherham-Villa was on the main screen. :)
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My hangover today is next level bad
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Turned off the phone and walked up Lickey Hills golf course for two hours before coming back and turned on the car radio,I don't care what Roy Keene,any Birmingham Wolverhampton or Albion, suppose we better include Coventry fans think,all I care about is Aston Villa football club, seen the bad and good times, so I know what this means to younger lads and girls, as the man said you don't choose Aston Villa it chooses you,mum passed away many years ago but she bought us a season ticket in the serventies,so thanks mum when having six children financially it was a lot, Villa Till I Die
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You do get a few Wolves fans in Ireland - mainly it's the fifties connection. However, the best way to tell national/international support is to look at BHX on a matchday. You'll see a couple of Stripeys, the occasional Nose and to be fair, a fair few Wolves fans. You'll also, most home games, see a veritable trail of claret & blue despondency leading to the Ryanair Dublin gate, and a good number off to Edinburgh & Belfast. We really are in a different league.
How do you know this? Did you used to peddle the magazine at the airport?
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You do get a few Wolves fans in Ireland - mainly it's the fifties connection. However, the best way to tell national/international support is to look at BHX on a matchday. You'll see a couple of Stripeys, the occasional Nose and to be fair, a fair few Wolves fans. You'll also, most home games, see a veritable trail of claret & blue despondency leading to the Ryanair Dublin gate, and a good number off to Edinburgh & Belfast. We really are in a different league.
How do you know this? Did you used to peddle the magazine at the airport?
By the way, we stayed up.
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
Given our links over the past seventy years I would hope so. The trouble is that there's a massive gap between 'one of' and the best two or three.
During school/Uni here and up to 15-20 years ago I would say it was
Liverpool
Man U
Arsenal
Celtic (with most people having them as a second team)
Villa
Leeds
Everton
Man City
Tottenham
As Dave says there's a massive gap between the top 3 and the rest. I assume Chelsea and Man City have picked up a lot of younger fans given their higher profile nowadays but even so can't see them being higher than 5th.
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You do get a few Wolves fans in Ireland - mainly it's the fifties connection. However, the best way to tell national/international support is to look at BHX on a matchday. You'll see a couple of Stripeys, the occasional Nose and to be fair, a fair few Wolves fans. You'll also, most home games, see a veritable trail of claret & blue despondency leading to the Ryanair Dublin gate, and a good number off to Edinburgh & Belfast. We really are in a different league.
How do you know this? Did you used to peddle the magazine at the airport?
I have a tremendous image in my head now!
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Just massively relieved to get over the line.
Thought I'd "lost interest" before the restart but I have just been a bag of nerves as I ever was.
Massive credit to Deano and the players for turning things around in the last 4 games....two wins and two draws (and we should have won the two drawn ones!!!) and showing real resilience and character.
Watched almost all of the restart games with dear friends who lost their wife and mother during lockdown and hardly ever miss a game home and away. An enormously emotional day for them yesterday...we all felt that Hazel was with us all the way and was/is singing Sweet Caroline with so many other Holte Enders In The Sky.
We've done it the hard way, but let's build now and show the World what a wonderful club Aston Villa is.
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The only Wolves fan I know is my uncle, who lives in Harlech, North Wales, which is basically Birmingham-by-Sea in any case.
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Remember going to the Clarenbridge Oyster Festival (near Galway) in September 2003, it coincided with an international break weekend. Late on the Saturday evening, I was in our hotel bar with my wife (the other 2 couples we were with had gone to bed after having massive drunken fallouts with each other). There were 2 blokes at the bar discussing football, one a middle aged Geordie and the other a late twenties local. I joined in to discover that the young Irish lad claimed to be the secretary of the Galway Villa supporters club. He said there were over 20 members and that he was one of about half a dozen who made regular trips to matches.
As the conversation developed, we gradually deafed the Geordie out of the conversation, not maliciously, it just happened. The Villa fan knew his stuff and was certainly a genuine supporter. It capped a great day and it is gratifying to know that Villa has a good following all over Ireland.
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Trying to think of Wolves fans I know...given I worked at Wolves Uni for 3 years, not many. There’s the person that used to stand down the front at Glastonbury with a Wolves flag, my son’s mate from Aston Uni that has failed and resat every year of his degree so far (he’s in his fifth year of a 3 year degree), and I bumped into Steve Bull in the Molineux Asda in his full kit once several years after he had hung his boots up.
Typical trampy tatters.
Still getting full value out out of his old kit.
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I know two. One is a season ticket holder and another travels absolutely everywhere with them and I mean everywhere. I think he's done the 92 grounds with them. Both lovely chaps as it happens.
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I don't know a single one. I've never seen one up here in 10 years, although I have seen a smattering of Villa and done my best to increase the population.
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I joined in to discover that the young Irish lad claimed to be the secretary of the Galway Villa supporters club. He said there were over 20 members and that he was one of about half a dozen who made regular trips to matches.
Villa are a good fit for Galwegians. Galway United wear claret and blue and play at Eamonn Deacy Park plus the county's GAA teams play in Maroon so the colours gel.
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Anyway enough about the filthy Dingles
I saw this and just checked if it was true
1988 / 89 season
'The Mighty Reds YNWA' wins Championship
Leeds Win 2nd Division (now Championship)
Villa finish 4th from bottom
It was written in the stars!!!
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Was that the year we had to rely on West Ham not winning at Anfield?
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Anyway enough about the filthy Dingles
I saw this and just checked if it was true
1988 / 89 season
'The Mighty Reds YNWA' wins Championship
Leeds Win 2nd Division (now Championship)
Villa finish 4th from bottom
It was written in the stars!!!
Didn't Arsenal win it in 1989? Michael Thomas and all that.
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why the Bournemth fans moaning . We gave them 6 points ffs , what else do they want :)
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Yeah, and Leeds finished tenth in Division Two. Other than that, though...
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Yes, 1963/64 works better.
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Liverpool won the league in 1990 and Leeds were Division 2 champions. But we were runners up to Liverpool!
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Yes, 1963/64 works better.
I'm not sure I want us using the sinking sixties as a template.
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This is quite funny:
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/
Wow, check this one out:
I have no doubt that we're a bigger club than Villa nationally and definitely worldwide. The Midlands spread might be a bit different and in favour of Villa, but once you're out of the immediate catchment areas I'll be honest I think we're way ahead
Do they really believe this sort of nonsense?
In a sea of Stevie Bullshit that was the post that stood out to me too.
In Cayman there's only one Wolves fan (from Manchester but his Dad was Wolves). There were 17 Villa fans there for the game in the Irish bar yesterday which has become a de facto Villa pub. Was always amusing when the local plastics came into watch Man U or Liverpool in the CL only to be informed the likes of Rotherham-Villa was on the main screen. :)
Fidel Murphy’s by any chance?
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The saltiness of Wolves fans is the same saltiness of all the other clubs in the Midlands - disliking Villa is as much a part of their footballing life as the success of their own club.
As for Wolves I grew up on the 70's version - my Dad's a Wolves fan and he took me loads when I was a kid but I was never into it. Until we happend to go to a game against Villa. To be fair to my Dad he took me to a couple of Villa games the year we won the league and we'd always try and go to the Everton game until I left home (My Grandad was a scouser and Everton fan).
So relieved we made it - well done to Villa and lets hope we can sign a few players and make next season more relaxing.
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I lived in Stourbridge for 16 years and only met 3 Wolves fans....2 brothers from Sedgley who came to fit some windows and a young lad who I used to teach.
Since I moved to leafy Worcestershire I have met 2....both in my local pub. One always wears a Wolves shirt and comes into the pub with a mug of tea (I don't get it either), he never goes to games but is as smug as f**k. The other one I had been chatting with for a few years and one day (when it was clear they were going to get promoted) he announced that he was a Wolves fan. When I started to josh him about his secret support he said that he had been going for years and that he " was there in the 50s". He's 4 years younger than me and was born in 1958, so he may be stretching a point!
Have we signed anybody yet?
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why the Bournemth fans moaning . We gave them 6 points ffs , what else do they want :)
Yes moaning minnies!
That penaty that Heaton gifted them where it was easier not to, I just knew it was going to be a long season. Even before lockdown
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I present an indie music radio show and am devoting all tracks to Villa tonight 😎. What tracks do you recommend? I’m goin with Such A Remarkable Day to start, be cool if you’ll listen online 9-11pm www.mearnsfm.org.uk
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Wolves fans, although they won’t admit it, are worried because deep down they are nervous of the consequences for them of us finally getting our act together.
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I present an indie music radio show and am devoting all tracks to Villa tonight 😎. What tracks do you recommend? I’m goin with Such A Remarkable Day to start, be cool if you’ll listen online 9-11pm www.mearnsfm.org.uk
See my signature line - play Eels.
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This should help put any of those upstarts in their place...
(https://i.ibb.co/F3VBvTh/Honours.png) (https://ibb.co/F3VBvTh)
I had to chuckle, Corinthian, a team that only existed until 1939 has more major honours than the Blues !!!
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Sweet Caroline.
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
Given our links over the past seventy years I would hope so. The trouble is that there's a massive gap between 'one of' and the best two or three.
My oldest and wisest Dublin cousin is a Villa fan.
As for his brothers all Utd fans.
They used to come over for the Villa Man U match most seasons.
Obviously the McGrath, Townsend, Houghton connection was a big pull for the Irish.
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One of our drivers at work is a Wolves fan but he’s a southerner and a good lad too.
As for Wolves being bigger with more fans.... our attendances were 10k more than theirs this season and even in the championship when they stormed the league and we finished fifth we still had the biggest crowds in the division.
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One of our drivers at work is a Wolves fan but he’s a southerner and a good lad too.
As for Wolves being bigger with more fans.... our attendances were 10k more than theirs this season and even in the championship when they stormed the league and we finished fifth we still had the biggest crowds in the division.
Correction - we finished 4th
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This should help put any of those upstarts in their place...
(https://i.ibb.co/F3VBvTh/Honours.png) (https://ibb.co/F3VBvTh)
I had to chuckle, Corinthian, a team that only existed until 1939 has more major honours than the Blues !!!
You can't count Charity Shields. We should be fifth.
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Mind you, they're counting the InterToto 😄
I think I made that Wiki page, years ago. I only included proper trophies.
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The Dingles on Molineux Mix are so bitter about us! We even have our own special page: Aston Villa RIP.....Some hate us even more after yesterday. The hatred and vitriol is amusing and a bit sad really. A couple of good seasons and they think they're top dogs. The same fans who deserted them 7 years ago when in League One! Fact is, they've won fuck all in decades! Way above their station.
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I present an indie music radio show and am devoting all tracks to Villa tonight 😎. What tracks do you recommend? I’m goin with Such A Remarkable Day to start, be cool if you’ll listen online 9-11pm www.mearnsfm.org.uk
See my signature line - play Eels.
Thanks - I’ll go with Fresh Feeling. (Had we gone down it’d have been It’s A Motherf#cker!)
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why the Bournemth fans moaning . We gave them 6 points ffs , what else do they want :)
They are moaning that soon they will be in League 1, home from home for them, their natural lair.
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You can't count Charity Shields. We should be fifth.
Correct, Chelsea are 4th but only overtook us in 2015 and Citeh are currently level with us in 5th on 20. They may shortly overtake us but hopefully not till next season at the earliest.
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For those calling us jammy here's the main things I recall from poor decisions by refs and VAR:
In our favour
Liverpool goal disallowed by VAR for very marginal offside
Palace goal disallowed for handball when off the shoulder
Sheffield United’s goal not picked up by goal line technology
Against us:
Kevin “Friend” disallowing a goal for a player diving who had been fouled twice in the build up
Blatant handball at Arsenal denied by Jon Moss – VAR fails to overturn it.
Blatant interference by Arsenal players in the wall not penalised by Jon Moss or VAR allowing Arsenal to score their second
Perfectly good goal against Brighton disallowed for a supposed foul on the keeper, who jumped into Wesley.
Penalty awarded against Mings at Leicester when the ball hit his shoulder
Shocking penalty decision by Jon Moss against Man Yew, again VAR fails to overturn a clear and obvious error confirmed later by the PL.
Blatant penalty for Spurs against Bournemouth not given by VAR later declared another error.
Mane not being sent off before he got Liverpool's winner.
I can't recall much else but there's probably a few more that have gone against us- on balance, jammy is not the word I would use.
As for Wolves fans, I knew just one growing up in Smethwick, and can't recall meeting any at all while living in London, Norwich, Hertfordshire, Sussex, and various parts of Europe. Nor on my travels. I've met loads of Villa, a surprisingly large number of bluenoses and and a fair few Albion, but no Wolves that I can recall.
Wesley’s goal at Burnley. Offside by the heel of his boot, not even in the same phase of the game.
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For those calling us jammy here's the main things I recall from poor decisions by refs and VAR:
In our favour
Liverpool goal disallowed by VAR for very marginal offside
Palace goal disallowed for handball when off the shoulder
Sheffield United’s goal not picked up by goal line technology
Against us:
Kevin “Friend” disallowing a goal for a player diving who had been fouled twice in the build up
Blatant handball at Arsenal denied by Jon Moss – VAR fails to overturn it.
Blatant interference by Arsenal players in the wall not penalised by Jon Moss or VAR allowing Arsenal to score their second
Perfectly good goal against Brighton disallowed for a supposed foul on the keeper, who jumped into Wesley.
Penalty awarded against Mings at Leicester when the ball hit his shoulder
Shocking penalty decision by Jon Moss against Man Yew, again VAR fails to overturn a clear and obvious error confirmed later by the PL.
Blatant penalty for Spurs against Bournemouth not given by VAR later declared another error.
Mane not being sent off before he got Liverpool's winner.
I can't recall much else but there's probably a few more that have gone against us- on balance, jammy is not the word I would use.
As for Wolves fans, I knew just one growing up in Smethwick, and can't recall meeting any at all while living in London, Norwich, Hertfordshire, Sussex, and various parts of Europe. Nor on my travels. I've met loads of Villa, a surprisingly large number of bluenoses and and a fair few Albion, but no Wolves that I can recall.
Wesley’s goal at Burnley. Offside by the heel of his boot, not even in the same phase of the game.
Pedant alert, wasn’t it Jacks Goal.
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I love it when Wolves fans get all bitter about us and then try reassure each other that they are bigger than Barcelona and we are nothing but a ripple in the pool of super sized clubs. Always had delusions of grandeur that lot. It's funny how this Villa hatred only came to the fore when they finally finished above us for the first time since God was in short trousers. Bunch of ******.
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For those calling us jammy here's the main things I recall from poor decisions by refs and VAR:
In our favour
Liverpool goal disallowed by VAR for very marginal offside
Palace goal disallowed for handball when off the shoulder
Sheffield United’s goal not picked up by goal line technology
Against us:
Kevin “Friend” disallowing a goal for a player diving who had been fouled twice in the build up
Blatant handball at Arsenal denied by Jon Moss – VAR fails to overturn it.
Blatant interference by Arsenal players in the wall not penalised by Jon Moss or VAR allowing Arsenal to score their second
Perfectly good goal against Brighton disallowed for a supposed foul on the keeper, who jumped into Wesley.
Penalty awarded against Mings at Leicester when the ball hit his shoulder
Shocking penalty decision by Jon Moss against Man Yew, again VAR fails to overturn a clear and obvious error confirmed later by the PL.
Blatant penalty for Spurs against Bournemouth not given by VAR later declared another error.
Mane not being sent off before he got Liverpool's winner.
I can't recall much else but there's probably a few more that have gone against us- on balance, jammy is not the word I would use.
As for Wolves fans, I knew just one growing up in Smethwick, and can't recall meeting any at all while living in London, Norwich, Hertfordshire, Sussex, and various parts of Europe. Nor on my travels. I've met loads of Villa, a surprisingly large number of bluenoses and and a fair few Albion, but no Wolves that I can recall.
Wesley’s goal at Burnley. Offside by the heel of his boot, not even in the same phase of the game.
Pedant alert, wasn’t it Jacks Goal.
It was.
I'm still fucking angry about it!
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
Given our links over the past seventy years I would hope so. The trouble is that there's a massive gap between 'one of' and the best two or three.
During school/Uni here and up to 15-20 years ago I would say it was
Liverpool
Man U
Arsenal
Celtic (with most people having them as a second team)
Villa
Leeds
Everton
Man City
Tottenham
As Dave says there's a massive gap between the top 3 and the rest. I assume Chelsea and Man City have picked up a lot of younger fans given their higher profile nowadays but even so can't see them being higher than 5th.
Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.
Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.
Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.
If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.
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I love it when Wolves fans get all bitter about us and then try reassure each other that they are bigger than Barcelona and we are nothing but a ripple in the pool of super sized clubs. Always had delusions of grandeur that lot. It's funny how this Villa hatred only came to the fore when they finally finished above us for the first time since God was in short trousers. Bunch of c***s.
It's mad to me, as somebody who grew up in the late 80s/90s near Telford, that their passion for us is so intense. I knew loads of their supporters, and had a kind of soft spot for them as lower league strugglers (I was young).
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I would suggest we're ome of the best supported clubs in Ireland.
Given our links over the past seventy years I would hope so. The trouble is that there's a massive gap between 'one of' and the best two or three.
During school/Uni here and up to 15-20 years ago I would say it was
Liverpool
Man U
Arsenal
Celtic (with most people having them as a second team)
Villa
Leeds
Everton
Man City
Tottenham
As Dave says there's a massive gap between the top 3 and the rest. I assume Chelsea and Man City have picked up a lot of younger fans given their higher profile nowadays but even so can't see them being higher than 5th.
Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.
Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.
Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.
If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.
Sammy Nelson.
Declan who presents Block Rockin' Beats on Today FM (major Irish radio station) is a huge Villa fan.
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Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.
Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.
Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.
If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.
Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.
Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.
With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.
Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. ;) As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.
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Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.
Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.
Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.
If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.
Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.
Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.
With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.
Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. ;) As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.
So your name is Brazilian Villain and you're Irish? Well feck me who'd of thought that? lol.I'm Irish descent myself though we lost touch years ago. Was over in Co Wicklow just before the lockdown and was amazed to go in a little out of the way pub to try and watch sky sports for the results and found several Villa fans in there. We were outnumbered by Liverpool & Celtic obviously.For the record I don't like U2 as my name suggests
it's totally unrelated.
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Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.
Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.
Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.
If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.
Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.
Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.
With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.
Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. ;) As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.
So your name is Brazilian Villain and you're Irish? Well feck me who'd of thought that? lol.I'm Irish descent myself though we lost touch years ago. Was over in Co Wicklow just before the lockdown and was amazed to go in a little out of the way pub to try and watch sky sports for the results and found several Villa fans in there. We were outnumbered by Liverpool & Celtic obviously.For the record I don't like U2 as my name suggests
it's totally unrelated.
My family are Dublin and my wife’s Mayo. This will be the first year in over 20 years we haven’t been over, because of the virus.
Tend to think the 90s was the big period for Villa over there because of the success of the Irish National Team and the Villa happening relatively simultaneously and the Townsend, Houghton, Staunton and God links.
I’m the same with Grealish. Understand why he did it and obviously he’ll still have ambitions for the Euros and next World Cup. But he could of been huge for Ireland. Him and Hourihane seem to get on as well, so shame there was no influence there.
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Leeds popularity would go back to the Giles days but I don't think Leeds would be a traditional home of Irish ex Pat's in Britain unlike Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester.
Arsenal had a number of Irish players back in the 70s/80s like Brady, Stapleton, O'Leary, Jennings, Rice....back at the time when Highbury/Holloway road was the epicentre of Irish ex pats in London.
Im not sure Celtic are as popular as they once were. Huge Donegal/Glasgow connection aside (Houghton, McGeady, McCarthy, Bonner even Given) . Sign of the times with the decline of the Scottish league and it's profile maybe.
If only Grealish had stayed in green, a resurgent Villa support across the Irish Sea would have been inevitable! Ticked a lot of boxes too, GAA background, bit of a rebel off the pitch and obviously once in a generation player. Rice/Grealish midfield would have eased a lot of future qualification worries.
Think quite a few went to Leeds and still do e.g. there's still an Irish Centre there. Apparently it's mainly from Mayo and the west. All the Leeds fans I know though are in the 55-65 range so more to do with Giles and the Revie era.
Back in the day I had a soft spot for Arsenal for the same reason but went off them from the mid-90s on when Wenger developed selective blindness.
With the Premier League Celtic may have declined as people's first choice but only they and Liverpool have stores in Dublin City centre. The Celtic one's been there for ages (the Man U closed after 2 years) so there must be a decent amount of support.
Agree re Grealish and was gutted when he and Rice switched and they may well yet rue it. Missed out on Harry Kane and Rooney too. ;) As Kilbane put it at the time it depends on the family e.g. in his case it was always going to be Ireland and would be the same in mine. A few good kids coming through though so we'll see.
So your name is Brazilian Villain and you're Irish? Well feck me who'd of thought that? lol.I'm Irish descent myself though we lost touch years ago. Was over in Co Wicklow just before the lockdown and was amazed to go in a little out of the way pub to try and watch sky sports for the results and found several Villa fans in there. We were outnumbered by Liverpool & Celtic obviously.For the record I don't like U2 as my name suggests
it's totally unrelated.
My family are Dublin and my wife’s Mayo. This will be the first year in over 20 years we haven’t been over, because of the virus.
Tend to think the 90s was the big period for Villa over there because of the success of the Irish National Team and the Villa happening relatively simultaneously and the Townsend, Houghton, Staunton and God links.
I’m the same with Grealish. Understand why he did it and obviously he’ll still have ambitions for the Euros and next World Cup. But he could of been huge for Ireland. Him and Hourihane seem to get on as well, so shame there was no influence there.
Yeah I've noticed that with Grealish & Hourihane. Jack made a bee line for him to celebrate his goal at West Ham. If Jack doesn't make the next England squad he may live to regret his choice. But whatever happens good luck to him anyway I've thoroughly enjoyed his Villa career so far. He's given us some great memories.
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Regarding that Villa side of the nineties and its Irish contingent, they still never got the recognition from the press and mainstream media over here that they deserved. The pages and sports bulletins were always, as now creaming themselves over Manure and Liverpool despite Villa having Ireland's favourite sporting son, the Lord McGrath in their line-up. If I hadn't been a Villa man I would still have found it strange behaviour seeing as how the Villa provided almost half the Irish national team.
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With Jack Grealish going straight to Hourihane after the type of goal it was, I wondered whether they had worked together on shooting from range.
They are often of free kicks together & some conversations seem to go on there - where to put it & how? It is Hourihane’s best asset.
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With Jack Grealish going straight to Hourihane after the type of goal it was, I wondered whether they had worked together on shooting from range.
They are often of free kicks together & some conversations seem to go on there - where to put it & how? It is Hourihane’s best asset.
Probably wanted to say that Hourihane isn’t the only player with a left foot at the club
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Regarding that Villa side of the nineties and its Irish contingent, they still never got the recognition from the press and mainstream media over here that they deserved. The pages and sports bulletins were always, as now creaming themselves over Manure and Liverpool despite Villa having Ireland's favourite sporting son, the Lord McGrath in their line-up. If I hadn't been a Villa man I would still have found it strange behaviour seeing as how the Villa provided almost half the Irish national team.
That time was my link into Villa, four Villa players all were outstanding beating Italy in the giants stadium in New Jersey in 94...great times
I think a resurgent Man United with the two Corkonians on board were always going to be increasingly popular. As others have said Doug Ellis corner shop ways never saw the club expand it's support base globally at a time when wall to wall sky sports coverage was kicking off for the premier league. Huge opportunity lost for the biggest club in Britain's second city.
That's why Grealish isn't just another player for us too. He is an instantly recognisable, very talented obviously and charismatic. A commercial goldmine for the club that's not easily replaceable on or off the pitch.
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Regarding that Villa side of the nineties and its Irish contingent, they still never got the recognition from the press and mainstream media over here that they deserved. The pages and sports bulletins were always, as now creaming themselves over Manure and Liverpool despite Villa having Ireland's favourite sporting son, the Lord McGrath in their line-up. If I hadn't been a Villa man I would still have found it strange behaviour seeing as how the Villa provided almost half the Irish national team.
It might have helped if you could have bought a Villa shirt in Dublin.
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
This must be on the entirely reasonable basis that had the goal been given the referee would have immediately blown the full time whistle to give Sheff Utd a 1-0 win.
Then every game following this would have proceeded exactly as they did with no change of approach and the results would have been exactly the same.
This whole Sheff Utd 'ghost' goal analysis keeps Villa up shtick is just utterly bizarre.
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?
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Danny Murphy saying Stiliyan Petrov was one of the toughest opponents he ever faced.
Petrov is *exactly* the sort of player we really, really needed this season.
I reckon Luiz is that player. Few similarities in their trajectory at Villa. Petrov scored a couple of nice goals early, but also copped a bit of flak in the early days as he took a while to get up to speed. Moving him deeper in midfield gave him more time on the ball and he started orchestrating things nicely.
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?
Well we had better re-write history. Our goal against West Germany in the final was clearly on the line and maybe we need to chalk off Maradonna’s hand ball in ‘86.
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?
There was something in the Torygraph about it when I tried to read the article on Suso, but all behind paywall.
Surely any arbitration body will throw it out with all the reasons posted above?
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?
There was something in the Torygraph about it when I tried to read the article on Suso, but all behind paywall.
Surely any arbitration body will throw it out with all the reasons posted above?
It’s the same spiV lawyer trying to drum up some business.
It won’t happen and everybody with any sense knows it won’t happen.
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From what I have read, I think they are trying to get some monetary compensation from Hawkeye. No mention at all of taking the point off Villa. They obviously need some money now as they’ve been relegated.
It’s ridiculous really as, if they were successful, we could take VAR to court for their countless mistakes against us which lead to at least 4 points extra we would have had if they had made the correct decisions.
I rest my case my lord!!
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?
There's a piece by Tom Dutton on the Evening Standard's website today. Very speculative though..
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From what I have read, I think they are trying to get some monetary compensation from Hawkeye. No mention at all of taking the point off Villa. They obviously need some money now as they’ve been relegated.
It’s ridiculous really as, if they were successful, we could take VAR to court for their countless mistakes against us which lead to at least 4 points extra we would have had if they had made the correct decisions.
I rest my case my lord!!
I hope they win a huge amount of money, then maybe the powers that be will have a serious re-think about whether technology actually solves everything or just completely wrecks the game for no good reason.
It isn’t going to affect our position because their claim isn’t against us & they definitely aren’t going to open the can of worms of swapping relegation places.
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It's absolute bobbins. Might as well sue their own players for conceding too many goals, or the Chinese government for Covid 19 which caused the lockdown.
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I'd made the mistake of leaving tawkspawt on earlier. The 10 o'clock show with shouty White and Natalie Sawyer and Simon Jordan were leading with it, with some sports lawyers too. I didn't listen beyond the intro, sorry.
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Oh, and they were definitely on about us, not Hawkeye. Tabloid radio filler.
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From the Daily Telegraph:
Bournemouth have not ruled out exploring a compensation claim over the Hawk-Eye mistake that arguably cost them their Premier League status, and will hold crunch talks later this week to decide manager Eddie Howe’s future.
Although no lawyers have been instructed at this stage, the possible comparison with the Carlos Tevez affair in 2006, which ended with Sheffield United receiving almost £20 million in compensation following their relegation, has been made.
Hawk-Eye publicly apologised when Sheffield United’s ‘goal’ in their 0-0 draw against Aston Villa in June was ruled out after the seven stadium cameras were effectively blocked by the goalkeeper, defender and goalpost, meaning that referee Michael Oliver did not receive notification that the ball had crossed the line.
Aston Villa’s point from that game ultimately proved critical. Had the goal stood and all other results remained the same, Bournemouth would have stayed up on goals difference and Aston Villa would have been relegated.
Sports lawyer Nick De Marco QC, of Blackstone Chambers, told Telegraph Sport that any club finishing a point below Villa in the relegation fight could have a case for compensation for lost revenue. “Such a claim might be unprecedented, but, depending on all the circumstances, it could be a good claim,” he said.
De Marco suggested that a claim could be made “against the Premier League, the providers of the technology, or both”. The financial importance of being in the top flight was evident in Bournemouth's most recent accounts, for 2018-19, where £115.6 million of its £131m income came directly from the Premier League.
Although there is no suggestion that the positions can now be reversed and no talks have yet been held with lawyers, Bournemouth have not ruled out taking advice on whether they would have a legitimate case for compensation.
A mistake has been acknowledged but it could also be argued that Aston Villa would have approached the rest of the Sheffield United game - and indeed their final fixture of the season at West Ham United, where they drew 1-1 - rather differently if the circumstances had changed.
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If Hawkeye has to dish out £20m for every mistake this season, it'll bankrupt them. I'm all for it.
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Hawkeye have only made one mistake, haven't they?
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From what I have read, I think they are trying to get some monetary compensation from Hawkeye. No mention at all of taking the point off Villa. They obviously need some money now as they’ve been relegated.
It’s ridiculous really as, if they were successful, we could take VAR to court for their countless mistakes against us which lead to at least 4 points extra we would have had if they had made the correct decisions.
I rest my case my lord!!
I hope they win a huge amount of money, then maybe the powers that be will have a serious re-think about whether technology actually solves everything or just completely wrecks the game for no good reason.
It isn’t going to affect our position because their claim isn’t against us & they definitely aren’t going to open the can of worms of swapping relegation places.
The goal line technology is a simple line decision and generally works well. Its avoids all the silliness with such as the Lampard goal against Germany. There was a mistake [ i think that has been admitted] but, so what? Had it been the 98th minute, last kick of the game, ok, fair enough. But 42 minutes in? doubt they will get very far.
As for VAR. It's the interpretation not the technology that's at fault in the main. "Clear and obvious" means something different for particular teams and officials. It is open to bias, and bloody hell have we seen some biased decisions.
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I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah.
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If they were successful, could we sue Phil Dowd?
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I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah.
Yep. I guess it's true that the big clubs always get the decisions. Wink.
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We decided it would be fairer to let another team walk the ball in, so sportingly did it against Man City, six times in a row.
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I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah.
Yep. I guess it's true that the big clubs always get the decisions. Wink.
Ha..that'll be my next response to them !! Honestly, I live here and a lot are in meltdown over it...
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This is what those West Ham dullards were banging on about.
The obvious difference between this and the Tevez Mascherano fiasco all those years back is this is one so isolated example of the technology failing, whereas they effectively gamed the system for the bulk of that campaign. With two players far in excess of their standing at the time who they wouldn’t have been able to sign other than via dodgy dealings.
I sympathise with the grievance they have nurtured since then (I don’t really). But not the same scenario at all.
Looks like West Ham were primed to get their excuses in should they have ended up in Bournemouth’s position. There is always next year, McGrath willing.
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Hawkeye error was a technological glitch that had nothing to do with us.
West Ham broke the rules signing Tevez and Mascherano.
Completely different situations.
I assumed any claim would be against the company, not us.
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I'm fairly certain there will be something in the Premier League rules that states that clubs can't sue for failings in sporting decisions, which is what the Nyland non-goal was. It's a completely different situation from a rule breach such as signing dodgy players like West Ham did, or intentionally cheating like Leeds did.
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I'd made the mistake of leaving tawkspawt on earlier. The 10 o'clock show with shouty White and Natalie Sawyer and Simon Jordan were leading with it, with some sports lawyers too. I didn't listen beyond the intro, sorry.
Not at work today so was listening to that shite this morning. To be fair though both Simon Jordan and Natalie Sawyers blew it out of the water for the stupidness it is. Nevertheless the channel as a whole has been running with the story for the last 2 days along the lines of villa got away with it, and also alongside twisting Petrovs words that Grealish is good enough to play in champions league, to Petrov says grealish should play in the champions league. If not necessarily all the pundits, the channel itself seems to have it in for villa, with an editorial line this week that villa are lucky to stay up and grealish should go.
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Unfortunately for Bournemouth, and I know this isn't legal speak, but you cannot just assume a positive butterfly effect. "If Blades score there then Villa drop a point.." Its a wild assumption without any consideration for the impact it may have on the rest of that singular game, or our approach to the rest of the season. If Sheffield would've scored, would we have pressed them and score 3.. probably not, but that's my point. This example of one hawkeye failure is anecdotal and revisionist history is easy to criticize.
It's a shame they cannot accept responsibility for their low point total and look to make excuses elsewhere. I feel for them, we've been there.. but it's not exactly good form to look at results around the league to bail you out. We've all seen the VAR table, we'd be better off without it. Should we take legal action?
I hope they get their finances in order and stabilize in the Championship, but don't look to penalize another club for your lack of results over the last 11 months.
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I'd made the mistake of leaving tawkspawt on earlier. The 10 o'clock show with shouty White and Natalie Sawyer and Simon Jordan were leading with it, with some sports lawyers too. I didn't listen beyond the intro, sorry.
Not at work today so was listening to that shite this morning. To be fair though both Simon Jordan and Natalie Sawyers blew it out of the water for the stupidness it is. Nevertheless the channel as a whole has been running with the story for the last 2 days along the lines of villa got away with it, and also alongside twisting Petrovs words that Grealish is good enough to play in champions league, to Petrov says grealish should play in the champions league. If not necessarily all the pundits, the channel itself seems to have it in for villa, with an editorial line this week that villa are lucky to stay up and grealish should go.
Simple solution, stop listening.
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I'd made the mistake of leaving tawkspawt on earlier. The 10 o'clock show with shouty White and Natalie Sawyer and Simon Jordan were leading with it, with some sports lawyers too. I didn't listen beyond the intro, sorry.
Not at work today so was listening to that shite this morning. To be fair though both Simon Jordan and Natalie Sawyers blew it out of the water for the stupidness it is. Nevertheless the channel as a whole has been running with the story for the last 2 days along the lines of villa got away with it, and also alongside twisting Petrovs words that Grealish is good enough to play in champions league, to Petrov says grealish should play in the champions league. If not necessarily all the pundits, the channel itself seems to have it in for villa, with an editorial line this week that villa are lucky to stay up and grealish should go.
Simple solution, stop listening.
I’m amazed anyone gives that shite the time of day.
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
This must be on the entirely reasonable basis that had the goal been given the referee would have immediately blown the full time whistle to give Sheff Utd a 1-0 win.
Then every game following this would have proceeded exactly as they did with no change of approach and the results would have been exactly the same.
This whole Sheff Utd 'ghost' goal analysis keeps Villa up shtick is just utterly bizarre.
Bollocks. There were 9 more games to play after. Also sets precedent to have all VAR decisions looked at which means we would have a total mess on our hands. Helped us but it’s not going to happen. If Bournemouth were less shit they would have got the points on the board. They didn’t
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I'm fairly certain there will be something in the Premier League rules that states that clubs can't sue for failings in sporting decisions, which is what the Nyland non-goal was. It's a completely different situation from a rule breach such as signing dodgy players like West Ham did, or intentionally cheating like Leeds did.
Before you even get to that, Rule C.8 clearly states "The Referee's decision as to whether a goal has been scored shall be final."
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They might win a case (although it seems unlikely) and they might win some money as compensation, but it would fuck football forever.
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The Lansbury non-goal at Palace really pissed Villa and the fans off. But, annoying as it was, we got on with it. It's no good Bournemouth bleating about it now. They should've complained about it back on the 17th June, not six weeks later! They've not got a strong argument at all.
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Read the article on daily heil and it’s a click bait article. Had the goal occurred on last day then there is a point to be made. However they had 38 games to save themselves. 9 after lockdown. They didn’t and were relegated. There were also another 45 mins in that Sheffield game we could have responded to had we been a goal down.
By same rules, teams would be begging for compensation if a star player was crocked in a game by the opposition (if we had our striker we would have been playing like Brazil). Like I said, it’s shitty click bait
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They would be daft to even try. They know Hawkeye is not 100% correct. I heard that Hawkeye told the PL before they took it on, that there are occasions where the cameras could not see a portion of the ball it would not work, they clubs still signed up to it. It’s sport, mistakes happen. Imagine if they won? You would get lawyers going over every contentious incident.
No rules or laws were broken.
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Bournemouth won't be expecting the decision to be reversed. I guess they would be looking for some kind of compensation. I know it's not the same scenario, but Sheffield United got compensation when they went down after the Tevez affair.
Bournemouth will find it hard to justify though, especially as it didn't occur on the last day. A lot of matches occurred between the event and the end of the season, and the Villa match itself would have run a different course.
I would think that Sheffield United would have been much more justified in taking action if adding 2 points to their overall tally could have given them European football next season.
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Wasn't Mings dragged to the floor for a penalty in the same game? Not that it matters, much like the non-goal. Fuck VAR, etc., etc.
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Read the article on daily heil and it’s a click bait article. Had the goal occurred on last day then there is a point to be made. However they had 38 games to save themselves. 9 after lockdown. They didn’t and were relegated. There were also another 45 mins in that Sheffield game we could have responded to had we been a goal down.
By same rules, teams would be begging for compensation if a star player was crocked in a game by the opposition (if we had our striker we would have been playing like Brazil). Like I said, it’s shitty click bait
Had our blond bombshell carried the ball over the line in the last minute of the last day there might be a case - at least a moral one.
But with so much time left in that particular game and nine matches to follow it's bollocks. So many variables.
If it leads to a rethink on how infallible the technology is (it clearly isn't) then all well and good. Between them the ref and the linesman should see enough even without a ping on their wristwatch or whatever else they were waiting on.
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I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah.
I don't know about you but I'm absolutely loving the outrage from other supporters about a goal that wasn't given.
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Read the article on daily heil and it’s a click bait article. Had the goal occurred on last day then there is a point to be made. However they had 38 games to save themselves. 9 after lockdown. They didn’t and were relegated. There were also another 45 mins in that Sheffield game we could have responded to had we been a goal down.
By same rules, teams would be begging for compensation if a star player was crocked in a game by the opposition (if we had our striker we would have been playing like Brazil). Like I said, it’s shitty click bait
Had our blond bombshell carried the ball over the line in the last minute of the last day there might be a case - at least a moral one.
But with so much time left in that particular game and nine matches to follow it's bollocks. So many variables.
If it leads to a rethink on how infallible the technology is (it clearly isn't) then all well and good. Between them the ref and the linesman should see enough even without a ping on their wristwatch or whatever else they were waiting on.
That's the problem, because they rely on it working, and didn't know it wasn't working, they don't use their eyes.
And yes it's click bait. If it had happened in the final minute and it's unlikely for the team to get something from the game maybe.
But no, and there's a minefield of VAR ( and I know in this it's goal line) cases we could raise.
Still, another reason why our forwarders are liabilities, bundling into the keeper....
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It wasn't not working, we somehow* managed to become the first set of players in over 9,000 games to manage to obscure sufficient of its 9 sensors to stop it working properly.
*somehow, or brilliant training ground routine? We'll never know...
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compensating Bournemouth sets a dangerous precedent going forward.
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I sympathise with Bournemouth but they weren't the only sufferers of bullshit officiating this year.
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I have just seen the free kick on Sky Sports, as it came into the box, I have a feeling that there are two of the Sheffield United players in an offside position, potentially would have been reviewed by VAR in any case. Therefore, potentially, null and void argument.
I think it's really classless of Bournemouth to go through with this, if it happens. Perhaps we should be suing Kevin Friend.
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Other than being in our game, this doesn’t concern us. Bournemouth are suing Hawkeye and, if successful, they will get money. There is 0 chance of them keeping premier league status and 0 chance of us going down.
I’m not a lawyer by any means but even id feel confident defending Hawkeye on this one.
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The night we lost to ManUre, VAR issued an apology stating Yanited's penalty should not have been given. We were the better team up to that point and it was goalless so it's not over-reaching to suggest that we may have got something from that game had the referee/VAR done their job.
On the same night, in the same statement, VAR also confirmed that Spurs should have been given a penalty against Bournemouth. That game finished goalless. Harry Kane is pretty reliable from the spot. A Mourinho team are pretty good at sitting back on a lead and hitting teams on the break.
Conclusion - get ta fcuk, Bournemouth.
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I don't care if they get compensation...good luck to them if they do. It's the constant crying that we only stayed up due to this error that grates on most of us I would imagine....cheats, should have let them walk the ball in, replay the game, relegate Villa.....blah blah blah.
I don't know about you but I'm absolutely loving the outrage from other supporters about a goal that wasn't given.
My take on it too. Every Villa hating arsehole can go fuck themselves with a rusty trumpet.
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Henri Lansbury's disallowed goal v Palace. The Premier League apologised about that. Villa can counter sue. This would become a minefield and would never end.
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The night we lost to ManUre, VAR issued an apology stating Yanited's penalty should not have been given. We were the better team up to that point and it was goalless so it's not over-reaching to suggest that we may have got something from that game had the referee/VAR done their job.
On the same night, in the same statement, VAR also confirmed that Spurs should have been given a penalty against Bournemouth. That game finished goalless. Harry Kane is pretty reliable from the spot. A Mourinho team are pretty good at sitting back on a lead and hitting teams on the break.
Conclusion - get ta fcuk, Bournemouth.
Totally agree Eamonn. There are so many issues across the course of a season that we'd all be suing each other all the time. Referee's would be scared to make decisions at all.
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The night we lost to ManUre, VAR issued an apology stating Yanited's penalty should not have been given. We were the better team up to that point and it was goalless so it's not over-reaching to suggest that we may have got something from that game had the referee/VAR done their job.
On the same night, in the same statement, VAR also confirmed that Spurs should have been given a penalty against Bournemouth. That game finished goalless. Harry Kane is pretty reliable from the spot. A Mourinho team are pretty good at sitting back on a lead and hitting teams on the break.
Conclusion - get ta fcuk, Bournemouth.
Totally agree Eamonn. There are so many issues across the course of a season that we'd all be suing each other all the time. Referee's would be scared to make decisions at all.
Bournemouth will end up looking extremely tinpot in all of this, if they’re not already.
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I'd made the mistake of leaving tawkspawt on earlier. The 10 o'clock show with shouty White and Natalie Sawyer and Simon Jordan were leading with it, with some sports lawyers too. I didn't listen beyond the intro, sorry.
Not at work today so was listening to that shite this morning. To be fair though both Simon Jordan and Natalie Sawyers blew it out of the water for the stupidness it is. Nevertheless the channel as a whole has been running with the story for the last 2 days along the lines of villa got away with it, and also alongside twisting Petrovs words that Grealish is good enough to play in champions league, to Petrov says grealish should play in the champions league. If not necessarily all the pundits, the channel itself seems to have it in for villa, with an editorial line this week that villa are lucky to stay up and grealish should go.
Simple solution, stop listening.
True, and I don’t normally, but did today and a bit yesterday in the aftermath of us staying up, so just commenting on what I’d heard.
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Had a quick look at a Bournemouth forum and most accept that one decision, less than halfway through a game with loads of matches remaining, wouldn't necessarily have resulted in their survival.
It's just the usual weirdos from round here who can't ever get the time off work to see "their" team in action but never miss a televised Villa game who are obsessing over it. Let them have something else to make their empty lives even more miserable.
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Regarding that Villa side of the nineties and its Irish contingent, they still never got the recognition from the press and mainstream media over here that they deserved. The pages and sports bulletins were always, as now creaming themselves over Manure and Liverpool despite Villa having Ireland's favourite sporting son, the Lord McGrath in their line-up. If I hadn't been a Villa man I would still have found it strange behaviour seeing as how the Villa provided almost half the Irish national team.
It might have helped if you could have bought a Villa shirt in Dublin.
Still pretty much the same although a second season in the Premier League might see a couple more sports shops push the boat out and stock a few.
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Had a quick look at a Bournemouth forum and most accept that one decision, less than halfway through a game with loads of matches remaining, wouldn't necessarily have resulted in their survival.
It's just the usual weirdos from round here who can't ever get the time off work to see "their" team in action but never miss a televised Villa game who are obsessing over it. Let them have something else to make their empty lives even more miserable.
Absolutely. Especially Small Heath fans. I don't think I've watched a live Blues match on TV apart from playing us for probably 10 years +, but they seem to have an encycolpedia like recall button for every Villa game especially since lockdown.
I don't care what anyone says, I love them!!
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It's annoying me now, all this ghost goal stuff. If we'd stayed up my more than 1 point, I bet there wouldn't be any of this nonsense!
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Has any mainstream media done analysis to compare how many times we were robbed to balance the ghost goal? It need’s a fact check website article!!
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?
Well we had better re-write history. Our goal against West Germany in the final was clearly on the line and maybe we need to chalk off Maradonna’s hand ball in ‘86.
Thierry Henry and Ireland being yet another example.
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I'm reading that Bournemouth are considering taking action against Hawkeye for the 'ghost' Sheff Utd goal.
I've heard this mentioned a few times but can't see anything apart from eejits on some football forums. Can you point me to any articles?
Well we had better re-write history. Our goal against West Germany in the final was clearly on the line and maybe we need to chalk off Maradonna’s hand ball in ‘86.
West Germany's second was offside.
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Every German I have met say England won fairly in 1966.
The score was 3.2
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Has any mainstream media done analysis to compare how many times we were robbed to balance the ghost goal? It need’s a fact check website article!!
There was an article available yesterday on Newsnow. I think the Daily Express may have claimed it. A table of VAR decision changes if VAR hadn't been invented. Villa gained 2 points and finished above Brighton. We finished 16th, gaining an extra couple of points but they don't tell you what the mistakes were.
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Cheers Leeg.
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Wolves in the Champions League? I’ve suddenly developed a new found appreciation of the merits of VAR.
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That table ain’t right - adding 2 to us would take us to 37.
Plus you could add another point as the CP equaliser as the ref blew to stop VAR from being able to review
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That table ain’t right - adding 2 to us would take us to 37.
Plus you could add another point as the CP equaliser as the ref blew to stop VAR from being able to review
Yeah it's very dubious. Bournemouth finished on 34.
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BBC now reporting that Bournemnouth actually considering a legal challenge because of the Sheff Utd "ghost goal". Perhaps they should look at this first.
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BBC now reporting that Bournemnouth actually considering a legal challenge because of the Sheff Utd "ghost goal". Perhaps they should look at this first.
I think I remember seeing the table before Sundays games
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It must have been before the final round of games. Liverpool are on 96 points etc etc
Point remains Bournemouth are still more than a point behind us and not safe.
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If the ‘ghost goal’ had stood and we had lost that game by a goal, then us and Bournemouth would have had same points, goal difference but have we not scored more goals so would have still stayed in 17th place?
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No. Season ended with us on -26 Bmouth on -25. If Sheff Utd "goal" had resulted in a loss final standings could have been us at 34 points -27 GD and Bmouth at 34 points -25 GD.
But it's all wasteful waffle now. There is no guarantee that all other results would have been exactly as they were if that goal had stood or even if Sheff Utd would have won that game.
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If the ‘ghost goal’ had stood and we had lost that game by a goal, then us and Bournemouth would have had same points, goal difference but have we not scored more goals so would have still stayed in 17th place?
Bournemouth finished the season on -25 GD, with us on -26. If we've have lost to Sheffield United, we'd have had -27 to their -25 and can down on goal difference. Doesn't change the fact that they have no real argument. You can't predict what would have happened in the remainder of the game had the ghost goal been given, it's ridiculous. To consider legal action 6 weeks later is just daft, I don't think they'll go through with it.
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It's a shame the goal wasn't given. We needed a wake up call and Sheff Utd were there for the taking. By not giving the goal probably cost us 2 additional points.
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It's such an oversimplifation to change one variable and leave all the others the same. As said above, even within that one game it would have changed everything that happened after it. We might have collapsed and lost by 5 goals. Or we might have come to life and got the 3 points.
It seems reasonable that if we'd gone into the WH game needing a win we'd have had a better chance of getting it. It was clear at half time that Bournemouth were the threat and therefore a draw was enough. Again we might have gone all out for the win and been caught out on the break and spanked.
But this idea that you can change one decision in one game and simply adjust the points/table 10 games later is totally wrong headed.
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It's a shame the goal wasn't given. We needed a wake up call and Sheff Utd were there for the taking. By not giving the goal probably cost us 2 additional points.
You summarise my views on this entirely.
Our 'error' in the mini-league was not to give SheffU a good hiding.
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If action was taken and awarded against Sony for failures of the Hawk-Eye system, it would open up a massive can of worms for PGMOL and the Premier League around use / misuse and inaccuracy of VAR decisions over the course of the season, some of which ultimately cost clubs points - ourselves among them.
Any claim re: Hawk-Eye would never be successful.
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Fk it- we had shit decisions from the tech. When we were all fuming people would say: they all even out over the season. Well they did unless you’re fkn Man U. My dad congratulated Villa earlier (he’s 81) and was genuinely made up for me we stayed up. I still hate them though! Up there with Coventry for me - grew up in Nuneaton.
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Do we need to make a new topic out of this thread and move the last few pages over? Hopefully this is something that is quietly dealt with and rival fans can moan about us for some other reason.
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Do we need to make a new topic out of this thread and move the last few pages over? Hopefully this is something that is quietly dealt with and rival fans can moan about us for some other reason.
Sounds a good idea.
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Just to point out that you either opt in to the technology or you opt out. In the game under discussion, Bournemouth complain about the 'ghost' goal and how the technology should have given it.
After the game Wilder said that, in mitigation for the Blades being robbed, that Villa had a stonewall penalty turned down after the break. This decision was not looked at again by the technology, so, in that sense, we were 'robbed' as well.