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Title: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 17, 2020, 08:46:28 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11688/12029983/championship-clubs-to-discuss-18m-salary-cap-for-next-season

How can this possibly work if Norwich’s wage bill one of the lowest is still £28m?  I assume clubs would get time to fall in line with it.  Or will clubs get round it with bonuses etc. 
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: The Edge on July 17, 2020, 08:52:50 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11688/12029983/championship-clubs-to-discuss-18m-salary-cap-for-next-season

How can this possibly work if Norwich’s wage bill one of the lowest is still £28m?  I assume clubs would get time to fall in line with it.  Or will clubs get round it with bonuses etc.
But isn't the whole idea of parachute payments there to assist relegated clubs who are already committed to spending way above the limits they are proposing? 
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: Steve67 on July 17, 2020, 08:57:16 AM
I think it's a dreadful idea, restraint of trade and will dumb down the competitiveness of what is just about the best second tier in world football.  If you do it for the EFL, why not do it for the Premier Division and stop the lack of problems being created (through relegation) at source? 
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: Rudy65 on July 17, 2020, 09:01:47 AM
I think it's a dreadful idea, restraint of trade and will dumb down the competitiveness of what is just about the best second tier in world football.  If you do it for the EFL, why not do it for the Premier Division and stop the lack of problems being created (through relegation) at source?

Sounds like the champs clubs are digging their own graves. The suggested figure doesn’t sound enough to me
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: sickbeggar on July 17, 2020, 09:06:22 AM
Maybe they should, y,know, only pay the wages each individual club can afford according to thier finances. Didn't work too badly for the first 100 of so years
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: mr underhill on July 17, 2020, 09:11:51 AM
only it didn't because no one earned more than five bob a week.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: sickbeggar on July 17, 2020, 09:20:20 AM
only it didn't because no one earned more than five bob a week.


Always been clubs richer than others. And if you think players weren't getting paid under the table in the old days or getting perks, then i think you're being naïve. Why the hell would any player uproot his family and move hundreds of miles just to be on exactly the same money?
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 17, 2020, 09:50:03 AM
I'm not entirely against the idea in principal, but this won't be done "on principal", it'll be inspired by some bitter no marks like Middlesbrough, desperate to find a way to fuck Villa over. Having a vote now would be ludicrous, Leeds get a vote but Norwich don't? Holding it before next season's Championship clubs are confirmed can only be an attempt to gerrrmander the vote and stop Villa having a say.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 17, 2020, 09:52:35 AM
Given covid and how much clubs are struggling in efl leagues - cant see any of them agreeing to moves that could make their lives even more challenging for next season
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: PeterWithe on July 17, 2020, 09:57:18 AM
I can’t see this happening whatsoever.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 17, 2020, 10:27:27 AM
I'm not entirely against the idea in principal, but this won't be done "on principal", it'll be inspired by some bitter no marks like Middlesbrough, desperate to find a way to fuck Villa over. Having a vote now would be ludicrous, Leeds get a vote but Norwich don't? Holding it before next season's Championship clubs are confirmed can only be an attempt to gerrrmander the vote and stop Villa having a say.

Conveniently, Middlesborough's annual wage bill for players is £15.6m.  This will just lead to more splits and a PL2 in my view.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: Villan82 on July 17, 2020, 11:45:28 AM
Is there some sort of football conspiracy to fuck villa?
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: Des Little on July 17, 2020, 11:46:56 AM
We’re doing a pretty good job of it ourselves.  We don’t need any help.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: johnc on July 17, 2020, 11:48:03 AM
Is there some sort of football conspiracy to fuck villa?
Headed by most of the players we buy
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: David_Nab on July 19, 2020, 12:48:27 AM
Whilst I can see a point to some kind of cap this boils down to how do we screw over the newly relegated clubs without the long term thinking that at some point it could be one of them.

Alot has been made of Fulham and our spending , but less so about Norwhich.They spent pretty much nothing so they could protect themselves if they went down but in doing so gave themselves no chance of staying up and for the past month or so have just been hopeless.

Bringing in a rule like this would lead to more clubs going up acting like Norwich ..more concerned about going back down then doing anything to be competitive in a higher league
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: adrenachrome on July 19, 2020, 01:42:53 AM
Rick Parry, EFL Chairperson,  also called for an end to parachute payments, which he described as “an evil that must be eradicated”.  "A complete reset" required, in his opinion.


Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 19, 2020, 02:10:32 AM
As with any daft idea proposed by business types, one has to ask the question "What does Rick Parry gain from proposing/supporting such measures?"

Hmm.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 19, 2020, 02:20:53 AM
The Rick Parry that was the original CEO of the Premier League and negotiated the first TV deals that caused wages to start spiralling out of control. Twat.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: tony scott on July 19, 2020, 04:58:45 AM
If your going to have a salary cap make it a percentage of income, yes it disadvanges less well surported clubs but thet would be the case with an 18 mill cap, if you want stagnation a fixeded cap is just the job.  I know if I suppored Blues Reading Boro etc I’d be all for it. Because they feel they are unable to compete under the current system, convenitly forgetting the exploits of Sheffield Utd,
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: Big Ming on July 19, 2020, 06:39:01 AM
If your going to have a salary cap make it a percentage of income, yes it disadvanges less well surported clubs but thet would be the case with an 18 mill cap, if you want stagnation a fixeded cap is just the job.  I know if I suppored Blues Reading Boro etc I’d be all for it. Because they feel they are unable to compete under the current system, convenitly forgetting the exploits of Sheffield Utd,
Brentford (now officially my second club) seem to have managed to compete alright without salary caps and parachute money.
This is just the football equivalent of socialism.
Level everyone down until they are equally poor.
Parry has some nerve given that he created the ever perpetuating Sky six.
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: wolfman999 on July 19, 2020, 07:58:28 AM
If all the squads are made up of the quality of players who would command such relatively modest wages, surely that will just increase the gulf between promoted clubs and those already in the premier league. We already know that the majority of promoted clubs struggle and are relegated pretty quickly. This idiocy tries to suggest that all clubs are of equal size, regardless of income, ownership, support or anything else. Why should a club of our size commanding crowds of 35/40k (when we are allowed in!) be treated the same as one who struggles to attract 15k?
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on July 19, 2020, 09:39:51 AM
Salary cap works in US sport because of the franchise model, central contracts and no promotion/relagtion.

Hasn't worked very well so far in Rugby, which is also doing its best to create a closed shop model
Title: Re: Championship Salary Cap Proposal.
Post by: David_Nab on July 19, 2020, 11:47:52 AM
Parachute payments are seen as this unfair advantage when the truth is they just about keep clubs coming down from imploding due to the large difference in income between the 2 leagues.It's really only us who went on a made spending spree when we were relegated.

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