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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Chris_Jephcott on June 27, 2020, 11:33:19 AM
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2 Strikers? What is this dark magic?
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Two strikers. Both wingers dropped.
I can’t complain at any of that!!
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About time!!!
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Traore on the bench
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Win please Villa, please surprise me.
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Two strikers. Both wingers dropped.
I can’t complain at any of that!!
FFS a big man upfront and no wingers? . (I thought I should post the contrary view before someone else does.)
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Amatuer start to the match thread ;)
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Didn't he say a couple of days ago that this couldn't be done? Maybe kidology. Who cares! This is what they want!!
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Amatuer start to the match thread ;)
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2 up top, Nakamba in, McGinn dropped. Can't argue with that.
Ha! Thought I'd mix it up a bit - see if it can snatch us 3 pts! Posted this in the pre-match, as I know you guys get a little touchy about starting match threads. ;)
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Amatuer start to the match thread ;)
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amateur x 100
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I have no idea how to post images... 150% amateur here.
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Hopefully McGinn will come on and make an impact, scoring our fourth to go 4-0 up!
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Blimey! I need a lie down.
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I have no idea how to post images... 150% amateur here.
I was referring to his spelling fail.
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So where are the traps today?
And I don’t mean the Gents.
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is Traore on the bench I can’t see him anywhere
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I can't see Traore anywhere on BBC line ups!!
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I fear that no matter how we change things up going forward.
We still have that soft centered defence who are guaranteed to drop at least one clanger. Watching the Wolves assists between Traore and Jimenez fills me with dread... That's Targett and Hause's spots. Heart says we'll beat em, head says we'll get annihilated! :S
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I have no idea how to post images... 150% amateur here.
I was referring to his spelling fail.
And I hadn’t even noticed it! I was too busy packing my suitcase for work again... and feeling dizzy about Samatta and Davis playing together.
I reckon they’ll both score today now.
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I fear that no matter how we change things up going forward.
We still have that soft centered defence who are guaranteed to drop at least one clanger. Watching the Wolves assists between Traore and Jimenez fills me with dread... That's Targett and Hause's spots. Heart says we'll beat em, head says we'll get annihilated! :S
Wow - NO traore! Bloody hell, no excuse now then Dean!
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Wolves have a lot of excellent players, but if Adama is out that’s a big boost.
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I can't see Traore anywhere on BBC line ups!!
They say he's on the bench but then he isn't listed. He is listed on the Wolves Twitter page. Suggest that BBC have fucked it up just to get our hopes up, the twats.
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Can’t complain at that. He’s going for it and fair play for being brave. If Traore comes on he’ll be up against the lightening pace of hourihane and Targett, but hey cross that bridge when we come to it.
Two up top and dropping the wingers is what a lot of us have wanted, let’s see how we get on
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He’s on the bench for them unfortunately. He will come on after an hour to run us ragged.
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Traore is on the bench. :(
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Sky have him on the bench. Sadly. At least he’s not starting... means he can run rings around our tired legs in the 2nd half.
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Fucking BBC.
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He’s on the bench, but blimey, Matt Targett will be happy!
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That's better but why not Elmo at right back? Konsa isn't a right back.
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It’s about time Villa put in a big performance. Please do it lads.
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The masses got what they wanted but that is one heck of a slow team. We'll need to outfox them not outrun them.
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So, Dean has finally gone two up top, but picked the weakest midfield he could muster. Hologram and Nakamba together won't work. Despite picking out Konsa, we are still playing without a recognised right back despite having one on the bench. Lack of pace and physicality. Not doing himself any favours. Saying that, have we got anything better on the bench? Not really.
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
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As much as I love John McGinn, we've been playing with 10 men since the restart - Just hasn't been at the races. In all fairness, he wasn't pulling up any trees prior to his injury either... appears to have carried on that form.
Hopefully this gives him the kick up the backside he needs, and he can play the cameo super-sub until he's back into his form of old.
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Alamo time.I want every man jack to lay their body on the line.Not to give in to any tackle.Not to lose a man.Win every 40/60.
Run off the ball,cover each other.Take a punt,take a risk.Win mofos.
(conscious that the Alamo was a failure)
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Just bloody win please Villa.
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Well he’s surprised me.
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Oh and Traore has started all their games on the bench I think.
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
We've been getting so many free kicks off fouls on Jack that I reckon it's worth having Conor in the side. Set pieces look our most likely route to a goal at the moment.
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
Agreed. Slim pickings isn't it.
The only person who's earned a spot in that midfield on the basis of the restart games to date is Luiz really
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So, Dean has finally gone two up top, but picked the weakest midfield he could muster. Hologram and Nakamba together won't work. Despite picking out Konsa, we are still playing without a recognised right back despite having one on the bench. Lack of pace and physicality. Not doing himself any favours. Saying that, have we got anything better on the bench? Not really.
This. Nakamba is a poor footballer. Dreadful purchase.
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That's better but why not Elmo at right back? Konsa isn't a right back.
Agreed, also Elmo can cross a decent ball to the big man seeing as we don't look to be playing with any wingers.
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
Agreed. Slim pickings isn't it.
The only person who's earned a spot in that midfield on the basis of the restart games to date is Luiz really
Yes, you can see the quality he has. We need him and Jack to really hurt Wolves today, they're the only two players we have with any real quality.
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
Agreed. Slim pickings isn't it.
The only person who's earned a spot in that midfield on the basis of the restart games to date is Luiz really
What position does Slim Pickings play?
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
Agreed. Slim pickings isn't it.
The only person who's earned a spot in that midfield on the basis of the restart games to date is Luiz really
What position does Slim Pickings play?
Horseback
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
Agreed. Slim pickings isn't it.
The only person who's earned a spot in that midfield on the basis of the restart games to date is Luiz really
What position does Slim Pickings play?
Certainly not right back, otherwise he'd be starting.
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
Agreed. Slim pickings isn't it.
The only person who's earned a spot in that midfield on the basis of the restart games to date is Luiz really
What position does Slim Pickings play?
Central defence, part of a back four with Lack Adaisical, Caught Ballwatching, and Outa Position.
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Well, we have Drinky to look forward to as a MF subb when Nakamba's been found out for the nth time.
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Deno is blaming the fixture congestion! That's why we are shit then.
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Can't really argue with McGinn being dropped but not sure Hourihane has done an awful lot either.
Agreed. Slim pickings isn't it.
The only person who's earned a spot in that midfield on the basis of the restart games to date is Luiz really
What position does Slim Pickings play?
Central defence, part of a back four with Lack Adaisical, Caught Ballwatching, and Outa Position.
You forgot Shi Tintheair
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Smith just said we’re in a better place now than at the start of the restart!?
No we’re not. If we’d have won that game in hand, we’d have been out of relegation with everything in our hands. We have to rely on 2 teams being shitter than us now!
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I'm happy with this. This feels like a reaction to what we have seen in the last 3 games in which no striker or midfielder has scored.
Folk have wanted us to give it a real go. This seems like a chance to do that.
Come on boys!
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I so hope this system works today.
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what wins did we deserve .. sheff utd and newcastle both shit but their goalies hardly had anything do .
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This gives us a better chance of winning the game. Happy with this, just need the players to put in a performance now. Going to be tough though.
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No problem whatsoever from me for the team manager has selected. What I wanted aside from AEM coming in at RB but can understand why we've kept Konsa there.
Think this sort of line up is more likely to get us two wins and the odd draw in the run in compared to what we've been putting out.
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Problem with this formation is Hourihane is deployed as a CM to win the ball back when what you want is him where he was against Newcastle near the front and given ball to ping into the box.I worry we will see another Chelsea performance from him as he chases players around but doesn't get near them and does nothing on the ball.
Nakamba im glad is back as Luiz needs help to defend.
Essentially we are going to be going early to the strikers with Grealish hoping to play off them and get beyond them into space if he can.
The concern is if we sit too deep we are going to have a very narrow MF and they will use the wing backs to exploit that , look to them to spread cross field balls out to the wings like Chelsea did.
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This is the side I would have picked. If it doesn’t work, I can’t complain, I’m just pleased that Dean’s giving it a go. Come on you Villa boys!
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Was that Purslow in the tunnel when Smith seems to be trying to explain tactics to him? If it was, Purslow's body language didn't look very positive. Hmmm...
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Smith just said we’re in a better place now than at the start of the restart!?
No we’re not. If we’d have won that game in hand, we’d have been out of relegation with everything in our hands. We have to rely on 2 teams being shitter than us now!
In absolute terms, we're better off by 2 points ...
but, being a league, all that matters is the relative position and we're still 19th.
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Why the f... is he playing 2 strikers? Out of his depth...
*kidding
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Was that Purslow in the tunnel when Smith seems to be trying to explain tactics to him? If it was, Purslow's body language didn't look very positive. Hmmm...
Hopefully Dean was telling him what compensation package he wanted.
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Worth a try with two up front but surely Elmo at RB would have made sense for his crossing alone? And for the fact that he is an actual RB? Midfield looks pretty lightweight but at least McGinn ins't part of it - he's been awful. Glad Traore isn't starting but probably not as glad as Targett is.
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Not got BT Sport bugger, any ideas?
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Not got BT Sport bugger, any ideas?
Same here. Got to rely on you H&Vers please.
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Could be a midfield diamond? Is hopefully not a flat midfield four with Jack left as that at home would be dumb? Hopefully???
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Hats off to BT sport.... spent the whole prematch buildup actually talking about Villa and Wolves. If this had been on Sky sports, we’d have had 25 minutes of waxing lyrical over Liverpool, and a brief glimpse of today’s team sheets!
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Hats off to BT sport.... spent the whole prematch buildup actually talking about Villa and Wolves. If this had been on Sky sports, we’d have had 25 minutes of waxing lyrical over Liverpool, and a brief glimpse of today’s team sheets!
I have steered clear of Sky Sports and Talk Sport. 10 hour tribute programmes to Liverpool, sickening. No other club, even Man Yoo get that type of coverage.
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Hats off to BT sport.... spent the whole prematch buildup actually talking about Villa and Wolves. If this had been on Sky sports, we’d have had 25 minutes of waxing lyrical over Liverpool, and a brief glimpse of today’s team sheets!
I have steered clear of Sky Sports and Talk Sport. 10 hour tribute programmes to Liverpool, sickening. No other club, even Man Yoo get that type of coverage.
‘Best fans in the world’ don’t ya know 🙄
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what wins did we deserve .. sheff utd and newcastle both shit but their goalies hardly had anything do .
Could of beat Sheffield if not for a couple of excellent saves by Henderson particularly a point blank save from Davis
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Why water the pitch when it's been pissing down?
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Have Liverpool won the league then? I wish the media had reported it.......
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This could be interesting. I’d still bite your hand off for a point.
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Hats off to BT sport.... spent the whole prematch buildup actually talking about Villa and Wolves. If this had been on Sky sports, we’d have had 25 minutes of waxing lyrical over Liverpool, and a brief glimpse of today’s team sheets!
I have steered clear of Sky Sports and Talk Sport. 10 hour tribute programmes to Liverpool, sickening. No other club, even Man Yoo get that type of coverage.
‘Best fans in the world’ don’t ya know 🙄
Yes, I was thinking exactly that when they lined up outside Anfield to ignore social distancing to celebrate their end of 30 years of mediocrity (not quite mediocre to be absolutely fair!).
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Could be a midfield diamond? Is hopefully not a flat midfield four with Jack left as that at home would be dumb? Hopefully???
Yeah, diamond or 4-3-3 with Jack the 3rd attacker just off the front two.
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So, Dean has finally gone two up top, but picked the weakest midfield he could muster. Hologram and Nakamba together won't work. Despite picking out Konsa, we are still playing without a recognised right back despite having one on the bench. Lack of pace and physicality. Not doing himself any favours. Saying that, have we got anything better on the bench? Not really.
Think you’ve answered your own question there with the last sentence
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It will never look right seeing Villa Park empty on match day. ☹️
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Attacking the Holte in the first half
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Have Liverpool won the league then? I wish the media had reported it.......
Man City lost it.
Liverpool had to rely on the Chelsea result ;)
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As it stands we're out of the bottom three. :)
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Looks like Targett's hamstring has gone.
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Nice, quick passing so far.
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Someone tell Targett that Adama isn't on the pitch yet.
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I'm scared when we try pass the ball on the wing, we short pass it a couple of times, and get caught in possession... over and over
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Is Targett pretending to be injured again?
Come on Villa!
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Have Liverpool won the league then? I wish the media had reported it.......
Man City lost it.
Liverpool had to rely on the Chelsea result ;)
They are being very humble then! Wm coverage as shit as always
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Is Targett pretending to be injured again?
Come on Villa!
Didn’t he do the same in the away fixture?
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Is Targett pretending to be injured again?
Come on Villa!
Didn’t he do the same in the away fixture?
I think so mate. An absolute weakling.
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Lazy journalism from Glenn Hoddle - "Goalscoring has been Villa's problem". Not if you look at the league stats - we've scored more than our nearby rivals but conceded too many.
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Targett's back on but clearly crocked. If I was Wolves I'd get Traore on immediately.
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Poor free header from Hause.
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Targett's done
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If anyone is struggling for viewing, drop me a PM.
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Oh Jesus here we go. The Welsh Roberto Carlos
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Poor free header from Hause.
was completely wasteful. Could of put it across the box with all the space he had
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Really need to push the midfield on now as both FBs won't be offering much forward. Probably won't be a bad thing with the opposition.
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neil Taylor to score a schorio and become a villa legend
Im staying positive
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Should make us less vulnerable down the left but with fuck all coming forward.
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Adama vs Taylor.
What can possibly go wrong 😬
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Are we playing long ball again?
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Neil Taylor vs Traore. It will not end well.
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Konsa struggling now. This is where the stupid schedule really hurts teams. 4 games in 10 days after not playing for three months.
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well done jack
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Lovely from Jack there. More of that please.
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Not a bad start, but no real openings from open play.
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Davis is struggling too - landed awkwardly on his shoulder.
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Davis holding that shoulder he fell on. FFS.
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This feels better, at least we are playing in their half more
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Doing okay; need to convert pressure into goals, though.
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Who will be in front of Taylor to help him when Traore inevitably comes on late?.
2nd half prediction.
Traore gives Taylor a hard time, Nakamba drifts across to cover him and voila - a hole the size of Sutton Park in front of our back 4 for Wolves to flood players into when Traore squares the ball across the edge of the box.
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Not got BT Sport bugger, any ideas?
Same here. Got to rely on you H&Vers please.
any friendly pm's also welcomed today, eyethenkyew
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Davis feeling his shoulder :-(
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Wolves are very tight. Need to be clever and Jack more on th ball
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Taylor and Konza means we have no width in attacking plays at all.
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Tyrone booked. Not ideal this early.
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That a ridiculously harsh booking.
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Stupid booking for Mings.
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Taylor already letting his man steal in and get an attempt on target. This isn't going to end well.
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That a ridiculously harsh booking.
Nah, he knew exactly what he was doing.
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I would dearly love to see Nyland take the ball cleanly.
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Luiz really is great.
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Jack still playing wide at all times
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Good save Nyland that was tricky
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Better this, Villa.
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Luiz really is great.
He's been a different player since the break.
Best player on the pitch today so far.
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Nakamba really is a liability
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Final ball in lacks quality.
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Getting loose
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Decent spell of possession for us. Final ball poor though.
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All over them at the moment.
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Nakamba really is a liability ...
... Saved by Luiz
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I think I saw four or five passes there!
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Nakamba having a mare.
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Just need that quality in final 3rd.
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Konsa's through balls are making me angry
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These post lockdown down games really start off slow.
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Better off playing 10 men rather than Nakamba. And then there is Hologram. Our midfield is truly shite.
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nuno looked quite animated during the coffee break
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Taylor gets sucked in, Wolves play the ball into space and Nakamba fucks up again
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Nakamba is so shit.
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Marvellous.....
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We're getting lazy at the back
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Grealish having his best game since the restart. Doug playing well again.
Nakamba and Konsa are a liability and need to wake up... second to every ball.
Samatta showing for the ball. Ball bouncing off Davis every time he gets the ball.
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Nakamba is having one of those days.
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Not a lot going right for Marv at the moment. Hopefully that will knock some sense into him!
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Looked a booking to me that.
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Doherty not challenging for the ball, there. Fortunately only Nakamba involved
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Looked a booking to me that.
Deffo
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I always said Targett would be injured.
And there it was.
Couldn't even lasted till drinks break
Like the look of villa so far just shame Nakamba and Hourihane don't offer so much in the formation and Konsa is the outball on right
Come on villa !!
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Has Konsa made a pass to a villa player yet?
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does konsa ever pass the ball to a villa player
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Agreed. "Unintentional" was it fuck, he's seen the man running in out of the corner of his eye and jumped right through him.
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3 fouls by Johnny.
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That’s 3 or 4 fouls that Johnny ****** has made.
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Agreed. "Unintentional" was it fuck, he's seen the man running in out of the corner of his eye and jumped right through him.
I thought the same mate. Hope you're well, fella.
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Wasted all the set pieces so far.
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That’s 3 or 4 fouls that Johnny c*** has made.
He's an utter ****** isn't he.
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This is awful. No invention, lacking ideas.
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Jack always over hits free kicks. Always.
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Set pieces have been shocking - no real venom or intent; just hit and hope.
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Wasted all the set pieces so far.
Been the same for years.
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Well defended, Konsa
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Garbage. Wolves are just toying with us.
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What is it with these floaty free-kicks by Hourihane?
Come back Ashley Westwood, all is forgiven!
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They are starting to dominate possession.
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Davis isn't very good, is he?
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No runners, everything is too static
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thats better Villa
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Cheating twat
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Garbage. Wolves are just toying with us.
Are you watching the game?
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Just can’t see where the goals are coming from.
Also I wish Luiz (who has been good yet again) would have a dig from outside the box.
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Better
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Our 1st shot on target
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This is awful. No invention, lacking ideas.
You've not seen much of us this season if you think this is awful.
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Garbage. Wolves are just toying with us.
Are you watching the game?
That’s what I was thinking. We are doing alright against quality opposition if you ask me
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Not too bad so far but then our problems are usually in second half when games go beyond us.
Wolves have plenty they can put on to stretch us later on, Neto been in good form for them aswell.
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thats better Villa
I was wondering what game you were watching, but looks like you are 2 minutes ahead of my stream :)
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Push up Villa you have retreated since that drinks break
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Better from Davis
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thats better Villa
I was wondering what game you were watching, but looks like you are 2 minutes ahead of my stream :)
neil taylor scorchio ...yeahhhhhhhhhhh :)
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Let off, Nyland oh dear
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wtf Nyland u twat
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Nyland is so thick sometimes, we should be 1 down there. That's the trouble with him, always a error lurking somewhere during a game.
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There's our obligatory mistake.
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For fucking hell sake.
We really are determined to fuck ourselves over aren’t we.
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What a let off!
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Just can’t see where the goals are coming from.
Also I wish Luiz (who has been good yet again) would have a dig from outside the box.
And yet we're playing a more offensive line-up ...
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Nyland.....
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Ah I’m behind. I’m glad I read those comments. Silly boy jota should just have spotted it with side of his foot and we’d be losing
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FFS Nyland!!!!
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Agreed. "Unintentional" was it fuck, he's seen the man running in out of the corner of his eye and jumped right through him.
I thought the same mate. Hope you're well, fella.
Likewise pal, though Nyland just gave me a minor heart attack
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Bloody hell Nyland. What the actual holy piece of poo was that???
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There, mistake done. Should be good now
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Woeful
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thought houriane was gonna score fuckin johnny
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Our problem is we never really look much like scoring.
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Jota needs shooting for that
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Too much hand gel on his gloves!
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Sorry, that's utter shite from Nyland. He's got that in him all the time. Time to go back to Reina I think.
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When did we sign Gary Sprake?
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Just can’t see where the goals are coming from.
Also I wish Luiz (who has been good yet again) would have a dig from outside the box.
And yet we're playing a more offensive line-up ...
Surely there is potential of Conor, Jack, Aly, Davis and Luiz scoring?
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No self belief in our attack at all.
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Absolutely every deflection and ricochet has run for them.
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Hourihane offers absolutely fuck all. Swap him for mcginn
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Steer should be our #1. Clangers aside, Nyland always takes 2 attempts to catch a save.. any striker following up has a great chance of a tap in. Liability!
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"Apologies for improper language" on the screen
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Good effort.
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Just can’t see where the goals are coming from.
Also I wish Luiz (who has been good yet again) would have a dig from outside the box.
And yet we're playing a more offensive line-up ...
Surely there is potential of Conor, Jack, Aly, Davis and Luiz scoring?
True, but the final pass has often been poorly executed.
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Agreed. "Unintentional" was it fuck, he's seen the man running in out of the corner of his eye and jumped right through him.
I thought the same mate. Hope you're well, fella.
Likewise pal, though Nyland just gave me a minor heart attack
Same here mate. I'm raving. Wife has gone to the bedroom and left me in the living room. Haha.
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No belief in that Hourihane shot.
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What the fuck was THAT free kick?
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Hourihane offers absolutely fuck all. Swap him for mcginn
agree to be fair
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A great tackle on Grealish by Hourianne
Oh.
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makes me laugh commentor says villa have goals on the bench
really
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Hourihane can get goals and assists, something we massively lack.
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Is it only me? Using ST free match pass, installed BT Sport app on Samsung smart TV, it hangs every 5mins (more then that in fact) for a few seconds grrrr
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Hourihane offers absolutely fuck all. Swap him for mcginn
Fish out of water on the right
agree to be fair
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Well Wolves certainly won't be hammering us.
They'll win this by the odd goal which is their default result v bottom 6 teams.
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So uninspiring.
A real lack of pace in our play.
Hourihane really fucks me off.
He spends more time skipping than playing.
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Is it me, or does Glenn Hoddle talk utter shite.
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The problem is there just don’t appear to be any goals in our team, so when Adama comes on and they score we’ll struggle to respond.
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Jota has got nan’s hair
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Can’t see us scoring. This season. Unless we can somehow inject some pace. Pedestrian.
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Awful.
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They’ll just wear us down the fuckers.
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Is it only me? Using ST free match pass, installed BT Sport app on Samsung smart TV, it hangs every 5mins (more then that in fact) for a few seconds grrrr
Nah, that's the match.
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Well Wolves certainly won't be hammering us.
They'll win this by the odd goal which is their default result v bottom 6 teams.
Yup. Probably 1-0, Traore crossing to Jimenez. Minute 72.
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Tripe all round.
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The problem is there just don’t appear to be any goals in our team, so when Adama comes on and they score we’ll struggle to respond.
It's so inevitable. How are bookies still in business when we all know this will happen?
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So slow and pedestrian. We are the easiest team to defend against in this league by miles
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Listen that hasn't been awful but I really thought our front two would've offered more. The Wolves defence has scarcely been stretched.
It has been way too easy for them so far.
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Even stuff really, Nayland's blunder aside. They've looked a little more menacing towards the later end of the half, but they've not created a great deal either.
I think we've wasted a good number of free kicks and have only carved on opportunity from open play. Think we need to think about the ball into the front two and try and get a runner into the gap between centre half and wing back.
I'd be thinking about McGinn for Nakamba not too long into the second half and Elmo for Konsa. The full backs forward play has been poor.
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No understanding between Ally and Keinan bar one dummy.If only they had more game time before
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So I haven’t watched it and assume that our new formation and tactics have caused the opposition problems and we’re unlucky to be drawing.....
<reads match thread>
Oh....
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They've been the better side and look much more dangerous than we do. I thought our energy looked a bit better than it has but we do give the ball away far too much. And then there's Nyland. We do like making things difficult for ourselves. Saying that, we've had one or two bright moments.
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Steer should be our #1. Clangers aside, Nyland always takes 2 attempts to catch a save.. any striker following up has a great chance of a tap in. Liability!
Agree with all of that. Steer has done nothing wrong. I understood Heaton being brought in to replace him, that's clearly a step-up, but Nyland is certainly no improvement on Steer.
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They’re doing what they do, containing us easily and wearing us down.
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Aw bless, the Dingles with electricity are obsessed with us.
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4 matches in 10 days. I can understand the lack of energy. It highlights our weakness in squad depth that we can't change it up.
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It’s so annoying that we have no pace, because they’ll just wear us down, box us in and then pick us off.
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Another waated set piece. Come on Villa, let's think about it.
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The final pass has let us down. It's not that we've been crap ...
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Oh, and our set pieces ....
Jeeeeezuz!
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We’ve competed but haven’t looked like creating anything. Looks more like 2 mid table sides than a team pushing for Champions League and fighting relegation.
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14 <>7 please
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Fucking bloody hell Hologram.
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What the fuck do we do in training?
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Much better ball in.
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Where is the leader saying that sort of delivery isn’t good enough. Shocking.
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Can't understand why we keep aiming for back post all the time from corners.
We scored from a near post flick on three days ago!
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We waste too many chances.
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Listen that hasn't been awful but I really thought our front two would've offered more. The Wolves defence has scarcely been stretched.
It has been way too easy for them so far.
Agree, but there are just so many sloppy mistakes all over the pitch that it constantly breaks down and we can’t really get any kind of momentum. Set pieces have been poor as well.
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We waste too many chances.
What chances? We have created bugger all
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When you’re not good from open play you have to be better from set pieces.
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Mistakes now. Jesus when his delivery is off hourihane brings nothing does he
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This is just so fucking shit.
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Samatta looks shite
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We waste too many chances.
What chances? We have created bugger all
Poor phraseology, should have said opportunities to create chances.
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Mistakes now. Jesus when his delivery is off hourihane brings nothing does he
He's a coward. Haha.
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WE HAVE NO WIDTH.
I’m done with Dean, he has absolutely no idea how to manufacture points in this league.
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Shit ball from Jack there.
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Samatta looks shite
Absolutely shit. Who scouted these players? He is Sunday league standard.
I hope he scores now. Haha
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4 players around samatta no claret options close range.
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This isn’t great.
Our set pieces have been awful.
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Too slow and not direct enough
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Mistakes now. Jesus when his delivery is off hourihane brings nothing does he
He's a coward. Haha.
Hahaha
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Hardly the fighting on the beaches performance of a team battling is it?
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Samatta is pissing me off
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Absolute crap. Too many players standing around waiting for something to happen. Very frustrating bunch to watch.
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When the ball does break forward, our midfield is so bloody slow to get on the edge of their box.
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This is the problem when you got systems round players rather than players for a system.
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Make a change Dean, be proactive.
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Two forward who look poor in the air and persist with getting it wide
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Really disappointed with Samatta today. I appreciate he's living off scraps but no intelligent runs, looks clumsy on the ball.
Thought he'd be better...
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Our play is just so static and slow. We never look dangerous going forward. No pace, no nous. Depressing.
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No fight in this team at all.
They mirror the manager....bland.
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As my brother put it, we're a well-oiled losing machine.
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Nobody followed Johnny's run. They get a chance and take it. I don't agree with Hoddle, Wolves haven't dominated by any means, but they have more quality and menace and the 1 chance they have had, they've taken it.
We've not created enough from open play, barely anything and wasted every set piece.
Hard to see where 2 goals are coming from. There just isn't the tools there in the squad.
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Ah so we’re beaten. We just can’t score any goals.
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Bunch or heartless, bottling wankers including the coaching team.
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Terrific attempt to block the goal by Mings at least.
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Bunch or heartless, bottling wankers including the coaching team.
Hard to disagree with that unfortunately. There is no heart or belief out there.
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Shit ball after shit ball. You'd think doing it for a loving they may occasionally do it properly occasionally
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It doesn’t actually matter whether it is 1 up front or 2. Both sadly ineffective.
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Surely we get rid of smith? Even no manager would give us no real disadvantage. Our entire set up is get it to Grealish and hope. Fucking awful, predictable and pedestrian and we are sunk given our run in
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Do they actually plan attacking strategy at all? It’s so depressing that knowing 1 goal means it’s game over most likely.
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To spend what we spent and look worse than a mid table Championship side is some achievement. This lot will struggle next year whichever league we end up in.
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Walking football from us.
Fucking rubbish
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God we’re so hopeless. No guts whatsoever. Players look fed up too - if Dean thinks they’re still confident he’s delusional.
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Nobody followed Johnny's run. They get a chance and take it. I don't agree with Hoddle, Wolves haven't dominated by any means, but they have more quality and menace and the 1 chance they have had, they've taken it.
We've not created enough from open play, barely anything and wasted every set piece.
Hard to see where 2 goals are coming from. There just isn't the tools there in the squad.
Yes, agreed; although we have really not helped ourselves with piss-poor final passes and terrible set pieces
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Fucking garbage.
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No fight in this team at all.
They mirror the manager....bland.
Totally agree.
This poorly coached squad hardly seems to comprehend the desperation here. Who out on that pitch is fighting and scrapping? Aside from maybe Douglas there is NO urgency out there.
We haven’t improved, had a good spell or established some sort of semi-successful plan this year. It’s unacceptable and pathetic for the resources we have at our disposal compared to some of the clubs above us.
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We really have bought so very badly.
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To spend what we spent and look worse than a mid table Championship side is some achievement. This lot will struggle next year which league we end up in.
I'm certain the team we had last season would out perform this load of shit. They had fight in them. This lots pathetic
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So Conor and Nakamba are both shit. But at least Conor can score or assist occasionally. Our manager is truly inept.
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I’ve thought this for a couple of games now and not said it, but watching this, I can see jacks head has really dropped and he’s just drifting around . Think he’s head is somewhere else now
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Its nothing to do with fight or effort or any of that clichéd stuff. Its a lack of pace and quality. We're devoid of it and have too many players not up to this level, so we compete and we try, but there just is not the tools in this squad for the job.
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To spend what we spent and look worse than a mid table Championship side is some achievement. This lot will struggle next year which league we end up in.
Don't worry pal. They'll be queuing up to leave, and Smith will again have the excuse of having to put together an entirely new squad which hasn't had a chance to "gel together", which as we've seen this season has made fuck all difference in any event.
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this Is embarrassing now. All fart and no shit
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Luiz apart this is awful.
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We can’t score and we let in goals. I can’t see us getting out of this disaster at all.
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It's over. Fuck all of them.
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It would be nice if one of our supposed good players, with the exception of Douglas, could actually do something.
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Mistakes now. Jesus when his delivery is off hourihane brings nothing does he
He's a coward. Haha.
Hahaha
I knew you'd like that one mate. There are too many fucking cowards in our team.
Hause-Vauxhall Conference level at best
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mcgin wtf was that ball
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I’ve thought this for a couple of games now and not said it, but watching this, I can see jacks head has really dropped and he’s just drifting around . Think he’s head is somewhere else now
Well he's certainly not helping the team atm
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Smith and Suso need to go
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We are completely over reliant on Grealish, who has been pretty average since the restart.
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Its nothing to do with fight or effort or any of that clichéd stuff. Its a lack of pace and quality. We're devoid of it and have too many players not up to this level, so we compete and we try, but there just is not the tools in this squad for the job.
Disagree.. respectfully of course.
I don’t think Sheffield, Burnley, Brighton, Palace etc have more talent than we do. We just have a manager who can’t get anything out of his players and is stubborn enough to stick with a failing formation and a Brazilian donkey who couldn’t score.
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If grealish has his head elsewhere then fuck off. No leadership from him anyway. Building a system around him and not the team will be why we are going down. With this lot I can see us dropping out the championship as there is no passion
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None of them willing to run at a man bar Grealish. How many times have we beat them for pace or guile here? I can think of one occasion, and it was Jack of course.
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We do fit the all fart and no sh** saying pretty well.
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Samatta - why, just why?
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Its nothing to do with fight or effort or any of that clichéd stuff. Its a lack of pace and quality. We're devoid of it and have too many players not up to this level, so we compete and we try, but there just is not the tools in this squad for the job.
I think it’s both - you can afford technically limited players that work hard or versa. We’ve got too many players who are technically poor who also don’t appear to give a shit.
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Not sure why huddle does not drop to his knees and nosh Traore off.
Your not the manager of wolves anymore you God loving bellend
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I think having a crowd there would’ve made a difference. They got us over the line against Leicester.
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Its nothing to do with fight or effort or any of that clichéd stuff. Its a lack of pace and quality. We're devoid of it and have too many players not up to this level, so we compete and we try, but there just is not the tools in this squad for the job.
If you lack quality, the least you can do if fight, battle and make it difficult for the opposition.
We don’t do that.
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Any chance of a scorchio?
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Samatta - why, just why?
I think he's very limited. Not seen anything from him to say he's going to make this level.
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Squad isn't good enough. Manager isn't good enough.
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To spend what we spent and look worse than a mid table Championship side is some achievement. This lot will struggle next year which league we end up in.
Don't worry pal. They'll be queuing up to leave, and Smith will again have the excuse of having to put together an entirely new squad which hasn't had a chance to "gel together", which as we've seen this season has made fuck all difference in any event.
That’s the biggest worry. Even if we get big money for those who leave, I have no faith in this lot to spend it wisely.
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I really don’t think that a championship type team will be easy or as good as previous squad that got us up to put together , uncle Albert, Tammy , etc
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Are our owners blind or stupid?
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I think having a crowd there would’ve made a difference. They got us over the line against Leicester.
Same can be said for other teams who are getting decent results. Having a decent squad and coach would be more of a difference
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We just don't move the ball quick enough.
It's been the same since the start of the season. We just haven't got to grips with the pace of this division.
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I’ve changed my mind now as well. I think this squad minus McGinn, Grealish and Mings would struggle in the championship.
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Its nothing to do with fight or effort or any of that clichéd stuff. Its a lack of pace and quality. We're devoid of it and have too many players not up to this level, so we compete and we try, but there just is not the tools in this squad for the job.
I think it’s both - you can afford technically limited players that work hard or versa. We’ve got too many players who are technically poor who also don’t appear to give a shit.
Same can be said about the coaching team
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Squad isn't good enough. Manager isn't good enough.
This. This. This.
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To spend what we spent and look worse than a mid table Championship side is some achievement. This lot will struggle next year which league we end up in.
Don't worry pal. They'll be queuing up to leave, and Smith will again have the excuse of having to put together an entirely new squad which hasn't had a chance to "gel together", which as we've seen this season has made fuck all difference in any event.
That’s the biggest worry. Even if we get big money for those who leave, I have no faith in this lot to spend it wisely.
Likewise - no faith at all
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Hoddle is thick as pig shit. A ‘fest of football’.
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Samatta - why, just why?
How bad are the Tanzanian national team if he's considered the star.
Fuck me.
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Can’t pass, can’t run, can’t shoot, movement poor.
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Might as well sub on two A4 notepads.
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Amazing that we've somehow got worse since losing Wesley...
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It might be unfounded optimism but I can see us scoring an equaliser somehow...
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Finishing the match without a forward.
Trez and AEG on for front two.
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What’s in those coaching books they show the subs. Ours must be blank.
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Trez? - WTF?
Davis off? for AEG??
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Now one up top....come on for fuck sake. No fucking pride
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Struggling to think of two bigger dick wipes to come off the bench.
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How many of this lot would you want in the Championship? And who the hell will take over will a plan that runs through to if we get promotion.
Dean certainly didn’t have one
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Finishing the match without a forward.
Trez and AEG on for front two.
Nah mate Trez came on for Nakamba
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It might be unfounded optimism but I can see us scoring an equaliser somehow...
Nurse, Nurse, come quick, Chris is having one of his funny turns!!
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Davis hasn't scored since 2017. Not a huge miss him going off.
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Smith is making it up as he goes. Another Sherwood.
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bizarre taking off Davis but leaving on the dreadful Samatta
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McGinn has looked good since his arrival on the pitch.
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Could we pump some boos through the PA system..?
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Pathetic efforts from Trez
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McGinn has looked good since his arrival on the pitch.
He has.
In other thin gruel, luiz has been good again and mostly got the better of traore.
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I've got more striker's instinct than our entire squad.
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It honestly looks like a non-league training match, watching us pass the ball around in our own half.
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Neil Taylor has been ok. Could have been a lot worse!
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We offer so little when we go behind in games. I think there is spirit there but we just constantly make wrong decisions in final third when we know time is running out.
Wolves using all their top level experience now to play around and close out 1-0.
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Every time Taylor gets the ball he turns inside and looks to pass backwards losing all forward momentum in one go.
Bottles wankers
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Have we had a shot this half?
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Every time Taylor gets the ball he turns inside and looks to pass backwards losing all forward momentum in one go.
Bottles wankers
you could put almost every outfield play in that sentence.
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We offer so little when we go behind in games. I think there is spirit there but we just constantly make wrong decisions in final third when we know time is running out.
Wolves using all their top level experience now to play around and close out 1-0.
It's just so easy for them isn't it.
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We look like a team defending a 3 nil lead. Playing out the minutes. For fcuk sake.
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It's good that we're at least ramping up the energy to try for an equaliser.
Or is it still pre season?
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Mind the gap
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Pretty piss-poor all round.
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I fucking hate watching this team
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Don’t get me wrong, Traore is a good player but I cannot understand the cretinous commentary - he’s not been that special?
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We're fucked.
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Moutinho and Neves combo reminds me of when we had Barry and Petrov. Intelligent players who know how to keep the ball and run down a game.
If we're to ever get a top 6 prem team again sometime in next decade we need to start signing players of that ability.
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I think we’re going down on 27 points.
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We look like a team defending a 3 nil lead. Playing out the minutes. For fcuk sake.
We do, they seem happy with 0-1. I’m happy with 0-1. What a pathetic state of affairs.
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I've changed my mind - sack Smith Terry and the other geezer immediately. It might lift the gloom. we won't stay up but every little helps.
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Stick a fork in us, we are done here.
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The only astonishing thing is we are still only adrift on goal difference.
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Have we had a shot this half?
1 Shot on Goal this match..
Desperate for 3 points, buck £100 million+, home against a rival.. can’t even show up to give it a go.
Smith out
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Trezeguet is just a fucking waste of a shirt.
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I think we’re going down on 27 points.
We might draw a couple more but it's hard to see us winning a game. Nine games now.
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Could play till the next covid breakout and not score
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The chances of staying up are virtually nil . Can anyone honestly see us winning another game this season? What a waste of our time. Mid table? This lot would struggle to get mod table in the championship. Well, Saturday is ruined and thank fuck i have a few beers in
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I didn't even realise we were losing until 5 minutes ago.
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No urgency , no movement ... don;t they realise that they need the points?
It's been crap since the start of this 10-game mini-season.
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Trezeguet is just a fucking waste of a shirt.
Would like if I never saw him in a Villa shirt again, no matter the division. GARBAGE
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I said after the Sheff Utd game we wouldn’t win again this season, and I still believe that. How Dismal Dean is still in a job is an absolute mystery. Fucking useless.
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Even when Wolves are passing it around casually they look more threatening than we do at full pelt. Smith hasn't a clue how to outthink someone tactically at this level.
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See....we nick the ball of Traore, Mings brings the ball out, and the villa midfield is just trotting out.
No energy or desire to break and support.
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Mings hoof again. Brain dead.
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I keep reading Liverpool have had thirty years of hurt. Fuck off! I keep reading Villa are spawny Fuck off! I keep reading we are down. Probably.
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The irony that they’re telling Jiminez to hurry up only to take forever to do something when they have the ball themselves
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1 shot on target today.
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I hate football.
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I feel a bit for Samatta, he seems to rely on quick balls into the box which when playing 2 up front we simply don't do.
Bottom line is, if Grealish is average or the opposition play him well we are fkd. And this has happened in each of the games since the restart.
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1 shot on target today.
When was that? Jack volley?
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I can understand us leaking goals but we aren’t even scoring them. We haven’t got a goal in us.
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Mings hoof again. Brain dead.
Expect he's got his agent checking out departures from Witton station
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Hello darkness my old friend.......
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That's the most pathetic last-roll-of-the-dice free kick from deep I've ever seen. We're embarrassing by pub team standards.
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Dean Smith remonstrating with the 4th official, god knows about what, he needs to have a fucking go at himself and some of the charlatans wearing claret and blue out there.
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That last gasp free kick has summed it all up.
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Piss poor,weak,clueless,outclassed,outplayed. At home. Not good enough for Aston Villa football club.
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We have such a lack of pace going forward which makes it easy to defend against us.
Taylor coming on has destroyed any attacking threat from that side and much the same on other with Konsa.Hourihane end ups as the wider right MF player which is a hopeless position for him and he can't run with the ball and can't cross balls in .Jack only player able to run with the ball.
Lack of fans also not helping
DS needs to be brave here he simply can not sit on the team and wait for Wolves to make changes and react he has to be proactive.