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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on March 09, 2020, 12:09:51 PM

Title: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: Legion on March 09, 2020, 12:09:51 PM
"Dear friends and supporters.

In an attempt to stop speculation and mis information about my health, I have decided to release the following statement. After a series of recent tests, I have been diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's Disease. Medication has been prescribed and with some life changes, which I intend to commit to fully, the prognosis is a good one. I will be out and about for many years yet and see this as just another of life's journeys. My match day duties with Aston Villa will remain an important part of my future and I will continue to perform these, in support of my beloved club, for as long as my health allows. With the love and support of family and close friends guaranteed, I am very optimistic and positive about the future.

With Love.

Gordon ( Sid ) Cowans x"
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Post by: aldridgeboy on March 09, 2020, 12:12:03 PM
Awful for him, such a lovely man. Hopefully the medication and changes can delay any serious onset.
One of my favourite ever players.
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Post by: chrisw1 on March 09, 2020, 12:24:01 PM
Bad news, but he seems to have a positive attitude, which will be vital in his battle.

One of the true legends of our club.  Best wished go to him and his family.
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Post by: darren woolley on March 09, 2020, 12:24:29 PM
I'm shocked I hope he's going to be OK I don't really know much about the Illness but I hope the medication will delay anything more serious I have had the pleasure of meeting Sid many times and he's a perfect gentleman.
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Post by: Clampy on March 09, 2020, 12:25:35 PM
Awful news, so sad to hear.
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Post by: sid1964 on March 09, 2020, 12:26:18 PM
My father has the same illness - I hope that "Sid" is able to continue with his normal daily life for many years to come.

Without doubt my favorite Villa Player - World Class in my opinion.
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Post by: LeeB on March 09, 2020, 12:26:19 PM
Not one of in my case, my absolute favourite footballer. It wasn't enough to be good at football, I wanted to do it with the style of Sid at the same time, he made a sliding tackle look balletic.

God bless him x
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 09, 2020, 12:29:52 PM
Best wishes to a true legend and gentleman. Thinking of you and your family.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on March 09, 2020, 12:35:14 PM
Thought the news would be even worse when I saw this.

Much love to Sid. One of the legends of the club without a doubt. My uncle had a more severe form of Alzheimers and it's sad to see fully with it people degenerate over time.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 09, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
I feel for him and his family.  A truly great Villa player.  Any Villa team since would have been vastly improved with him in the team he was that good.  Hopefully it won't be too deliberating for him.
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Post by: dave shelley on March 09, 2020, 12:56:56 PM
Undoubtedly one of the best players it has been my privilege to witness playing for the Villa.  The closest I've seen to being the complete all-round footballer.  Keep fighting Sid.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on March 09, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
Very sad news, I hope he's able to keep living a happy and normal life for a long time. My uncle has had something similar for a while and the stress and emotional pain it has placed on my Aunt is really tiring for her. I hope Sids family have a lot of support.
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Post by: Villan For Life on March 09, 2020, 01:16:36 PM
All the very best to you Sid as you fight this cruel illness.
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Post by: Billy Walker on March 09, 2020, 01:35:00 PM
I don't have many heroes but this man is one of them.  Right behind you Sid.
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Post by: colin69 on March 09, 2020, 01:52:14 PM
The word legend is used far too often but in Sid’s case he is. Hope he can carry on with as normal a life as possible for many years to come. A class act on and off the pitch.
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Post by: Steve67 on March 09, 2020, 02:11:37 PM
Love you Gordon Cowans.  The best player ever to wear the glorious claret and blue shirt.  I played with his brother Vince too at one stage.  lovely people and I wish them nothing but the very, very best.  A genuine, true legend of the Villa family.
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Post by: mcgrath_85 on March 09, 2020, 02:16:16 PM
Sad news.
Bloody love Sid.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on March 09, 2020, 02:18:13 PM
My very best wishes to a True Villa Great.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on March 09, 2020, 02:34:17 PM
Love Sid. Am sorry to read this, good to see he's approaching it with a positive attitude though. He's a fighter and with the right medication hopefully will continue to thrive for a good while yet.
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Post by: p_ad on March 09, 2020, 02:42:39 PM
We have had many great players down the villa, sid would be first name on any all-time teamsheet I was picking. All the very best sid to you and your family
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Post by: Demitri_C on March 09, 2020, 02:44:17 PM
Very sad news. All the best sid.
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Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 09, 2020, 02:47:35 PM
Tragic to read about this.

Best wishes to you and your family, Sid. X
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Post by: Hookeysmith on March 09, 2020, 03:00:13 PM
Us of a certain age should be grateful that we saw him play in his pomp - twice.

All the luck in the world Sid as you battle against this.
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Post by: in exile on March 09, 2020, 03:11:38 PM
Awful news.
Best wishes Sid and family x
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Post by: Fred Crump on March 09, 2020, 03:13:56 PM
Awful news.
Best wishes Sid and family x
Terrible news but well done Sid for being positive. We are all rooting for you, legend.
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Post by: Scratchins on March 09, 2020, 03:18:18 PM
Skill full, clever, brave; Sid had it all.
Good luck as you face this latest battle, we are all behind you.
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Post by: nevillain on March 09, 2020, 03:28:55 PM
Awful news but Sid, you have the whole Villa family rooting for you.
I’m in training to do the Great North Run this year (my first at 58). I have chosen to do it for the Alzheimer’s Society and this news will give me more motivation to raise as much as possible.
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Post by: Risso on March 09, 2020, 03:36:27 PM
Awful news, I hope he's right and the drugs etc can give him as much quality of life for as long as possible.  A horrible disease.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: exigo on March 09, 2020, 03:37:31 PM
Early onset Alzheimer's took my dad at the age of 51. It's an absolute bastard of a disease.
Good luck Sid. We're all with you x
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Post by: itmustbe_it is! on March 09, 2020, 04:28:51 PM
My favourite player of all time.

Picking one memory.......the bullet header against Juve. Absolute class.

All the best Sid.
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Post by: john2710 on March 09, 2020, 04:35:46 PM
Without doubt, one of our finest ever players & a personal favourite over the past 50 years. Makes you realise this illness is indiscriminate & without conscience. Hopefully with medication & medical advances we can stop this horrible illness.
All the best Sid.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 09, 2020, 04:46:47 PM
My father has the same illness - I hope that "Sid" is able to continue with his normal daily life for many years to come.

Without doubt my favorite Villa Player - World Class in my opinion.

Ditto. Plus he is my Dad's (and my) all time favourite Villa player.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on March 09, 2020, 05:07:24 PM
As you can see from my log in!!
My all time favourite. Keep up the fight, we're all behind you.
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Post by: manic-road on March 09, 2020, 05:20:05 PM
Sad to see this news, Sid is a Villa legend and always will be. Hope he can continue to live a normal life for as long as possible and all the best to his family as well.
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Post by: Flamingo Lane on March 09, 2020, 05:28:52 PM
What a player.  Watching the Villa from pre-world war II years through to the 1990s Gordon Cowans was my dad's favourite ever Villa player.

Genuinely one of the proudest moments of my life was at university, in the pub after playing a game of football, when a team mate told me 'you looked like Gordon Cowans today.'

Best wishes Gordon.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 09, 2020, 05:47:11 PM
Five or six years back I was at a Halloween party in the Aston Social Club with my wife. We bought a strip of raffle tickets and one of the tickets was number ten and Sid was at the party so I got him to sign it. He along with Tony Morley was also good enough to make an appearance at the funeral wake of my cousin a couple of years back.
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Post by: Villafirst on March 09, 2020, 05:59:10 PM
Very sad news indeed. I had the privilege to watch Sid in all his glory years. Hope treatment and a positive attitude gives Sid many good years yet.
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Post by: CT on March 09, 2020, 06:09:25 PM
On my first visit to Villa Park in 1980, i fell in love.

One reason was a speedy winger who was running rings around opposition defenders.

Another was this graceful player who ooozed class and could slow down, or dictate a game with his beautiful range of passing.

Best wishes Sid.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on March 09, 2020, 07:05:38 PM
Horrible news. Best of luck Sid.
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Post by: villabear on March 09, 2020, 07:35:09 PM
Sending Sid and his family lots of love.

A truly great player. Those pinpoint cross field balls were a thing of beauty.

I saw him play a few years back at Alvechurch in a Villa old stars game. He played carrying an inhaler in his hand and they might as well as given him his own ball. No one could get near him.

Stay strong Sid 👊
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Post by: tony scott on March 09, 2020, 07:49:56 PM
Sad news ,I’m sure Sid will cope with it ,like the many who’ve received this type of news recently, one of the few living legends of the Villa.
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Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 09, 2020, 08:20:09 PM
Incredible player and lovely man.

Knew his dad Walter well (dog trainer at Hall Green).

Hope it gives him an easier ride than most. Sad sad news.
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Post by: Allan C on March 09, 2020, 08:23:58 PM
Sad news but as some have commented he seems to be taking a positive attitude to this awful illness. Sid is in my top 5 favourite Villa players, absolutely fabulous to watch and worth the entrance money alone to watch  just brilliant
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Post by: Virgil Caine on March 09, 2020, 09:40:50 PM
One of the very few that truly deserves the title ‘professional footballer’. I never saw him tackle high, argue with a ref, feign injury, attempt to get an opponent booked or sent off, cheat or give anything less than 100%. An absolute class player who should have earned 100 caps for his country, yes he was that good.
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Post by: tomd2103 on March 09, 2020, 11:06:10 PM
Sad news and thoughts go out to him and his family.  An iconic Villa player and comfortably the best passer of a football I have seen  during my time watching the club.
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Post by: russon on March 09, 2020, 11:40:17 PM
He will always epitomise Aston Villa for me, he’s even more classy as a person than he was as a player and that’s saying something. A true Villa legend, second to none.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 09, 2020, 11:48:10 PM
One of the very few that truly deserves the title ‘professional footballer’. I never saw him tackle high, argue with a ref, feign injury, attempt to get an opponent booked or sent off, cheat or give anything less than 100%.

Ha! Let's just say his goal celebration was slightly understated. If somebody else scored he was climbing all over them. I will always love Sid.
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Post by: Big Dick Edwards on March 10, 2020, 08:11:09 AM
Such sad news. A great player and a great guy, always was and always will be Villa through and through. Some years ago (early Lerner period) Sid delivered the pre-ordered Villa shirt personally to the house as part of a new kit launch. I spoke to him for a while and he was such a decent and humble human being. My thoughts are with him and his family.
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Post by: brian green on March 10, 2020, 08:31:01 AM
We owe you so much Sid.  Thank you and God bless you.
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Post by: Bobby Boy on March 10, 2020, 08:31:41 AM
This is such sad news. Sid was one of our greats. He always seemed to have time on the ball, his decision making and execution were sublime. A absolute pleasure to watch.

All the best.

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Post by: Villa Lew on March 10, 2020, 10:05:34 AM
Very sad news without doubt one of the greatest players to wear the Villa shirt. My nephew met him a couple of years ago and said what a great bloke he was. Thoughts to him and his family.
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Post by: passport1 on March 10, 2020, 07:21:38 PM
Both sad and shocking. Sad because he was a member of the greatest Villa team I am ever likely to see and shocking because of his relatively young age to be suffering from such a devastating disease. Best wishes to you Sid.
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Post by: TopDeck113 on March 10, 2020, 08:30:19 PM
A legend and the exception that proves the "never go back" rule.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 10, 2020, 08:51:31 PM
One of the best players ever to wear the shirt of Aston Villa Football Club.
He was a joy to watch, tough, skilful, hardworking and dedicated...a true professional.
From the bottom of my heart, all the best Sid.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on March 10, 2020, 08:57:35 PM
One of our greatest, if not one of *the* greatest.  All the very best wishes Sid.
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Post by: RichardBatchelor on March 11, 2020, 06:37:47 PM
An absolute legend - alongside Morley, Yorke and Grealish as our most aesthetically pleasing player in my time as a fan and possibly a better all rounder than any of those.
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Post by: Perthvillan on March 12, 2020, 02:44:45 AM
Only just seen this.
Gordon Cowans is my favourite ever Villa player, such class.
Villa through and through, a real Villa legend.
Sid is the same age as me which is a bit of a worry in itself.
Let's hope he can manage this and be around for many more years.
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Post by: BoVillan esq on March 12, 2020, 09:08:12 PM
A true brick and a club legend.   
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Post by: aj2k77 on March 12, 2020, 09:23:41 PM
A legend and the exception that proves the "never go back" rule.

I only saw him play live during his return, he was still a bloody good player then. I would have loved to have seen him in his pomp.
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Post by: dave shelley on March 12, 2020, 09:41:27 PM
A legend and the exception that proves the "never go back" rule.

I only saw him play live during his return, he was still a bloody good player then. I would have loved to have seen him in his pomp.

Every bit as good as you've heard, even better.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on March 12, 2020, 10:26:10 PM
One of the very few that truly deserves the title ‘professional footballer’. I never saw him tackle high, argue with a ref, feign injury, attempt to get an opponent booked or sent off, cheat or give anything less than 100%.

Ha! Let's just say his goal celebration was slightly understated. If somebody else scored he was climbing all over them. I will always love Sid.

My favourite memory of Sid, among a wonderful collection of memories, is of him, Shaw and Withe hugging each other and collectively dragging themselves to the ground after the goal in Rotterdam.
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Post by: Mister E on March 13, 2020, 08:45:00 AM
Sid is a man that should have been an England legend: that he wasn't was down to narrow-mindedness ("we can't possibly have two ball-players in the side, and we already have Glenn"). He and Hoddle together would have been awesome; sadly, it only happened a few times.
I think Cowans signalled his greatness to the world when - on a balmy August evening in North London, in 1978 - Spuds paraded their 2 new Argentinian midfielders to an expectant White Hart Lane. Ardiles and Ricky Villa had recently arrived after helping their country win the world cup. Aston Villa was their first home game.
We stuffed 'em 4-1 and Cowans was the architect of their destruction!

He was pure class: as Virgil Caine said above - the definition of 'professional'.
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Post by: russon on March 30, 2020, 07:02:12 AM
Bumping this thread because I couldn’t stand it lying on page 2 beneath ones labelled ‘Scott Hogan’ and ‘Danny Drinkwater’.
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Post by: sirlordbaltimore on March 30, 2020, 03:53:24 PM


The best Villa player i've ever seen, ever met, and ever will.

For a kid to grow up idolising a midfielder rather than the amazing strikers or wingers we had at the same time tells it's own story. Just a wonderful footballer.

Thoughts with Sid and his family. Fight on.

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Post by: kieron on March 30, 2020, 09:16:30 PM
Nice bump, which reminds me that I saw him in Aldi Lichfield last week.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on March 30, 2020, 10:08:25 PM
Nice bump, which reminds me that I saw him in Aldi Lichfield last week.

I wonder how many modern footballers shop in Aldi.
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Post by: Steve67 on March 30, 2020, 10:13:36 PM
Bumping this thread because I couldn’t stand it lying on page 2 beneath ones labelled ‘Scott Hogan’ and ‘Danny Drinkwater’.

Quite right too. 
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: FrankyH on December 03, 2020, 05:47:56 PM
Sid talking about his diagnosis and more...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8994905/Aston-Villa-legend-Gordon-Cowans-opens-footballs-dementia-scandal.html
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Post by: Ian. on December 03, 2020, 08:37:13 PM
Poor Sid, absolutely gutted to hear about this. My mom has Alzheimer’s and so did my Nan, it’s a fucking horrible thing.
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Post by: Damo70 on December 03, 2020, 08:57:38 PM
Five or six years back my wife and I went to a Halloween party at the Aston Social. One of the raffle tickets I bought was number ten. Sid was there and I got him to sign my raffle ticket. My wife asked what I would do if I won. I said I would rather forfeit the prize and keep the ticket. He and Tony Morley also showed their faces at my cousin 'Ginger's funeral wake a few years back. Also another cousin of mine used to go around training new recruits for the bank she worked for and one of her trainees was Sid's daughter. I wish him all the best in the world, he is a top bloke. The only better played than him I ever saw in a Villa shirt was Paul McGrath.
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Post by: sid1964 on December 04, 2020, 07:50:58 AM
Keep fighting Sid - in my opinion the best I saw wearing our shirt.
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Post by: eamonn on December 04, 2020, 09:35:26 AM
Look forward to reading his memoir next year.
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Post by: ez on December 09, 2020, 09:14:32 PM
A true villa legend. I didn't know Johnny Giles was his uncle.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 09, 2020, 09:31:27 PM
A true villa legend. I didn't know Johnny Giles was his uncle.

I think he's John Stiles' (son of Nobby) uncle, not Sid's.
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Post by: ez on December 10, 2020, 01:52:18 PM
I have just seen a tweet from Dawn Astle, Jeff Astle's daughter to the effect that Alex Cropley has now also been diagnosed with dementia.
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Post by: Des Little on March 17, 2021, 03:52:39 PM
Does anyone have an update on Sid’s book release? I know it was due for this year, but not sure when?
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Post by: eamonn on March 17, 2021, 07:15:12 PM
Hope he's doing OK health-wise.
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Post by: Steve67 on March 17, 2021, 07:17:53 PM
What a truly wonderful player.  Best I’ve ever seen in a Villa shirt. God bless Sid.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 17, 2021, 08:34:15 PM
Nice bump, which reminds me that I saw him in Aldi Lichfield last week.

I wonder how many modern footballers shop in Aldi.


(https://i.ibb.co/KWyBb0s/8937660-0-image-a-30-1548340287728.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KWyBb0s)

Fabric conditioner/softener is not usually any cheaper in Aldi than elsewhere.
Photographed pre-covid !
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Post by: LeeB on March 17, 2021, 09:03:23 PM
What a truly wonderful player.  Best I’ve ever seen in a Villa shirt. God bless Sid.

My favourite for sure.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 28, 2024, 06:51:04 PM
Sad news, read just now that he's apparently in a nursing home, his condition having worsened.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 28, 2024, 06:56:28 PM
He’s a part of many of our childhood’s and some of our fondest memories watching Villa. Even after he returned to the club he was just outstanding in Sir Graham’s side. Alzheimer’s is such a terrible condition. My very best to him through all this.
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Post by: VillaTim on March 28, 2024, 07:23:43 PM
Sad news. Best wishes Sid.
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Post by: Paul.S on March 28, 2024, 07:27:19 PM
Terrible news. We’ll be lucky to see a player like Sid again. Thoughts with Sid and his family at this tough time.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 28, 2024, 07:36:44 PM
What a truly wonderful player.  Best I’ve ever seen in a Villa shirt. God bless Sid.

This. My favourite Villa player, his only real weakness was his goal celebrations and even that I loved.
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Post by: Ian. on March 28, 2024, 07:37:07 PM
That’s really sad news. Thoughts with his family and friends. He’s up there with the very best to wear our shirt.
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Post by: Nev on March 28, 2024, 07:38:29 PM
I saw something earlier about his condition and thought it was an old report or something so this news is a bit if a shock. Thinking of him and his family.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 28, 2024, 07:47:37 PM
I saw something earlier about his condition and thought it was an old report or something so this news is a bit if a shock.

I heard it earlier but didn't want to mention it, due to a previous request by Dave W not to dwell too much on his condition. Sid and Morley spent quite a bit of time in the box my uncle was in after the Forest game, so I was surprised to hear today's news. A dreadful disease, and obviously wish him all the best.
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Post by: The Edge on March 28, 2024, 07:51:24 PM
Brilliant football player. One of my all time favourites in my time watching the Villa. He tackled so fiercely yet he was built like a pipe cleaner.He could pick a pass as well. He was wonderful on the ball. He's up there with  Mcgrath in my opinion. Met him a couple of times too. My fondest memory was at the 2008 league final. We were in that Club 2000 by the ground and I was in a massive queue for the bogs. Turned around and there he was quietly waiting behind me. I said "fuck me it's Sid let him through" He tried to say I'm happy to queue up but we were having none of it. Everyone just pushed him to the front of the queue! I wish him all the best and he will have the support of his family and the full might of the Aston Villa family.
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Post by: pablo_picasso on March 28, 2024, 08:07:11 PM
Horrible news. Horrible disease.
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Post by: Risso on March 28, 2024, 08:16:07 PM
My best mate at school was a Blackburn fan. When Sid helped them get promotion back to the top division my mate thought that Cowans was the best player he'd ever seen. This was was obviously pre Shearer et al.
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Post by: Steve67 on March 28, 2024, 08:21:30 PM
I still love you Sid.  Even though this current bunch seem a good lot, you are and always will be my very favourite Villa player.  Part of my childhood, part of my dreams and memories. 
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Post by: luke95 on March 28, 2024, 08:26:48 PM
Terrible news
My all time Villa player, & loves us as much as we love him

All the best Sid.
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Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on March 28, 2024, 08:59:33 PM
Sad sad news, my user name says it all.
fabulous footballer and wonderful human being.
My hero.
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Post by: Des Little on March 28, 2024, 09:03:14 PM
My favourite ever player too, I’m lucky to have met him a couple of times. I just hope he gets all the help he needs to fight this vile condition. God bless him.
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Post by: Chris Harte on March 28, 2024, 09:05:25 PM
Very sad news about Sid.

Don't know what else to say really.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on March 28, 2024, 09:15:25 PM
Sad news.
A true Villa great.
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Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on March 28, 2024, 09:23:09 PM
I grew up watching him in his second and third spells. Really treasured memories with my dad and grandad.

Walking up into the stadium, smelling the grass, feeling the atmosphere and anticipation and then some of those player including Sid were some of the best I’ve ever seen.
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Post by: dave shelley on March 28, 2024, 09:33:06 PM
If you are one of the lucky ones that saw Sid from when he first broke into the first team and followed his career after, just imagine him playing for us today on the pitches they have compared to what Sid and his generation had.  Those long-range passes and through balls to team mates would be have us drooling.

all the best Sid, legend.
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Post by: FrankyH on March 28, 2024, 09:34:28 PM
My favourite Villa player ever, met Sid a few times at Old Star events and at Hospitality down Villa Park. What's always stood out for me is that his club mates love him as much (probably more , as they know him as a friend as well ) as the Villa supporters. I think they knew Sid was an exceptional talent and really appreciated his skill ,work rate ,pin point passes, goals, assists and as said before his crunching tackles despite his small slim frame.
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Post by: Hopadop on March 28, 2024, 09:57:22 PM
I think Stan C says it beautifully:

Sid, you're my hero, yesterday, today, tomorrow and for as long as I have breath in my body. You are the very best of the sport we love, the club you represented and still represent with so much grace, and the family and friends who will be by your side.

From me and mine, thank you for everything you gave a wide eyed 11 year old, thank you for the words as I lived a nightmare wrapped in a dream come true, and how you epitomise why Aston Villa Football Club is the special place that it is.

To Sid's family, sending you much love and wish you the greatest strength at this difficult time.

We're Aston Villa, a glorious name, a magnificent history and a bright future ahead. All made possible by men like Gordon Sidney Cowans.

"All of my heroes are Villans". Keep fighting, Sid.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Demitri_C on March 28, 2024, 10:27:22 PM
Thats a lovely tribute by stan
 Very sad news
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 28, 2024, 10:32:22 PM
Terrible news.

Best wishes to you & your family, Sid. XXX
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: eamonn on March 28, 2024, 10:38:10 PM
I know they had their flaws and periods of under-performance while they played for us but the way Collymore and Agbonlahor to a degree, frequently champion the Villa in public and show their love, Stan especially as in this case; really gladdens the heart.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on March 28, 2024, 10:44:59 PM
Gutted to hear this.
The best player I've ever been fortunate enough to see. Huge huge part of the Villa that I love.

Love you Sid.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on March 28, 2024, 11:00:13 PM
1:58 on this video .....

Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: VillaTim on March 28, 2024, 11:06:11 PM
As a kid I always remember watching Sid pre-game when the players came out before KO and warmed up , he'd be fizzing passes across the pitch inch perfect always and I found it mesmerising. Had the plaeasure of meeting him a few years ago, absolute gent.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Billy Walker on March 28, 2024, 11:13:11 PM
Along with Paul McGrath, Sid Cowans is the very best player I have ever seen play in the flesh.  All the debate about Ollie v Toney over the past few days had me thinking back to the eighties and the gnashing of teeth seeing the likes of Hoddle, Brooking and various other midfielders steal the spotlight from our European Champion(s). I was thinking, it was the same back then as it is now: if you're not playing in the northwest or within the boundaries of the M25, you have to work ten times harder for the media and FA establishment to give you a chance.  Gordon Cowans should have had, at the very least, fifty England caps - there was no finer passer, tackler or set piece deliver than Sid in his pomp - and he should have been one of the very first names on the England team sheet.

I read some tweet tonight asking why, for such a lauded player, did Sid have such a low-key testimonial (played against Stoke City, according to the Tweeter) ?  I don't know the answer to that question but if it is true, maybe it's time for the Club to put that right and organise a proper testimonial game for an absolute, 110%, Aston Villa Football Club legend?

Thinking of Sid and the all the Cowans family at this time.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Monty on March 28, 2024, 11:26:15 PM
My favourite as-it-were historical Villa player. You watch his stuff, he looks like a player from the future, he's always taking the ball perfectly in stride, generating power from no backlift, seeing things nobody else could like he's playing FIFA...

Basically, our Cruyff. Wishing every and any comfort for him and all who know him.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 29, 2024, 12:10:30 AM
If anyone can find footage of Platt’s hat-trick v Spurs in a 3-2 home win, that shows Sid’s talent as well as anything I’ve seen. I watched it the other day and now I can’t find it.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: tomd2103 on March 29, 2024, 12:47:19 AM
If anyone can find footage of Platt’s hat-trick v Spurs in a 3-2 home win, that shows Sid’s talent as well as anything I’ve seen. I watched it the other day and now I can’t find it.

One of the biggest compliments I can give Douglas Luiz is that some of the turns he has done on the ball and some of the intricate 'clips' into the box this season have been reminiscent of Sid. 

Very sad news to hear about the deterioration in his health.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: The Left Side on March 29, 2024, 12:52:12 AM
I like many wanted to be him in the playground, nobody could pass a ball like Sid.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 29, 2024, 01:05:25 AM
Funny:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFBGR9erBg&pp=ygUUR2F0ZWNyYXNoIHNpZCBjb3dhbnM%3D
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: JD on March 29, 2024, 01:37:32 AM
Fantastic player and a fantastic person. Very sad to hear this news.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: CT Villan on March 29, 2024, 02:12:50 AM
Very sad to hear this. Legend is thrown about far too freely today and there are few that are truly deserving of such an honour. Sid is one of the few that completely and utterly deserve the distinction. Growing up, I was always Sid when kicking the ball around the King Edward's fields behind my house and it was thrilling to watch him in person - most especially that night at VP when we crushed the dirty Barcelona hacks to win the Super Cup.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Villan For Life on March 29, 2024, 06:38:03 AM
Sid. One of the 14

Only legends are known by their nickname and I can’t think of many others.

Keep battling Sid, all of the Villa family are with you.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Clive W on March 29, 2024, 07:54:47 AM
Didn’t Platt once say:-

“My ambition is to make a run that Sid doesn’t spot”

Wonderful player
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: algy on March 29, 2024, 08:02:52 AM
Sad news, thoughts are with Sid & his family.

Didn't see him in his first spell, but did see him in his 2nd & 3rd. Absolutely loved him as a player, but it's only really watching videos now that I realise just what a brilliant player he was.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 29, 2024, 08:15:22 AM
A Villa legend on and off the pitch.
Loved our chat in The Adventurers some years ago!
Keep battling Sid! UTV!
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Gareth on March 29, 2024, 08:27:22 AM
So sad, great great player…as I’ve always said he’s the player Hoddle could have been if he could have tackled.  Should have had 50+ caps if the England team hadn’t been picked by the lazy hacks of Fleet St
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Pete3206 on March 29, 2024, 08:51:36 AM
If anyone can find footage of Platt’s hat-trick v Spurs in a 3-2 home win, that shows Sid’s talent as well as anything I’ve seen. I watched it the other day and now I can’t find it.

Spurs match 46.55

&ab_channel=AstonVillaF.C
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 29, 2024, 08:56:31 AM
A true Villa man. Great player that was a pleasure to watch, and a great bloke. All the best Sid.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 29, 2024, 09:42:19 AM
I remember seeing his debut at VP and being amazed at his ability and skill. Then, coming home to watch highlights on ‘Sportsnight’ and listening to Barry Davies waxing lyrical over his performance. Special player was Sid. Hope he gets the best of care.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: LeeB on March 29, 2024, 09:50:04 AM
Saw him at Old Trafford for the League Cup game last season and he looked well so this is a shock.

My favourite ever footballer. It could pass you by how good he was at times because he was never about himself and was a complete team player, but watching that 6-2 Everton game recently and we scored from two of his set pieces which were taken with different feet. Who the fuck does that? Absolute genius.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: brian green on March 29, 2024, 09:55:02 AM
I also remember his debut at Villa Park. He made what was to become his trademark, a sliding tackle with trailing leg under his backside, so that he came out of the tackle running with the ball at his feet. We were stunned by the sight of it .
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Richard E on March 29, 2024, 10:00:37 AM
Beautiful artist with a football. Absolutely one of our all time greatest.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Clampy on March 29, 2024, 10:01:36 AM
Such sad news. Don't remember him first time round that well. Him and Platt were immense though when he came back.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 29, 2024, 10:10:56 AM
What he was capable of as a player

Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Des Little on March 29, 2024, 10:12:59 AM
I’m very confident that most of us who have had the privilege of seeing him play for us will have him in their all time Villa eleven.  Says it all.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 29, 2024, 11:01:49 AM
If anyone can find footage of Platt’s hat-trick v Spurs in a 3-2 home win, that shows Sid’s talent as well as anything I’ve seen. I watched it the other day and now I can’t find it.

Spurs match 46.55

&ab_channel=AstonVillaF.C
Brilliant to watch again.
My first season when I could afford to get a ST for the first time and some great memories of Sid are on here.
Not least the ball for Platt"s goal v Inter.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: john2710 on March 29, 2024, 12:11:45 PM
I also remember his debut at Villa Park. He made what was to become his trademark, a sliding tackle with trailing leg under his backside, so that he came out of the tackle running with the ball at his feet. We were stunned by the sight of it .

This is what I remember most about him, I lost count of the number of times he did it & I've never seen any other player do it once. I'm gutted for him & his family that this ilness has developed this quickly. I too saw him at Old Trafford last season & he looked so well. A truely wonderful player & a Villa man to the core.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 29, 2024, 12:19:57 PM
Even on SHA, nothing but sympathy and praise for him as a player/coach/person. That says a lot, given their usual opinion of Villa players.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 29, 2024, 12:32:43 PM
Even on SHA, nothing but sympathy and praise for him as a player/coach/person. That says a lot, given their usual opinion of Villa players.
There are a few decent ones over there.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 29, 2024, 12:36:41 PM
Nothing on BBC Football, even on the Villa page, about this development involving an ex-England international and one of the best players of his generation...

Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 29, 2024, 12:40:33 PM
If anyone can find footage of Platt’s hat-trick v Spurs in a 3-2 home win, that shows Sid’s talent as well as anything I’ve seen. I watched it the other day and now I can’t find it.

Spurs match 46.55

&ab_channel=AstonVillaF.C
Brilliant to watch again.
My first season when I could afford to get a ST for the first time and some great memories of Sid are on here.
Not least the ball for Platt"s goal v Inter.

We all agree, Platt is better than Gascoigne...

Where's your fat boy gone?...

Feels like yesterday...
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: devilla on March 29, 2024, 12:43:32 PM
Very sad news. A real legend of a player.

My thoughts are with his family and friends.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Flamingo Lane on March 29, 2024, 12:56:46 PM
I also remember his debut at Villa Park. He made what was to become his trademark, a sliding tackle with trailing leg under his backside, so that he came out of the tackle running with the ball at his feet. We were stunned by the sight of it .

The most enjoyable thing about seeing that done was that whereas we, watching in the crowd, could see and would know exactly what was going to happen, Sid's opponent would be left sitting on the floor in a state of total surprise, wondering where the hell the ball had gone.

My dad said that in watching the Villa for over 70 years, no one player had given him greater enjoyment than Gordon Cowans, which I think in large part was because Sid's slender frame was in inverse proportion to absolutely everything he brought to his game, not least his fearlessness and strength. It's not a word I would usually use to describe a footballer, but Gordon Cowans was a beautiful footballer.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 29, 2024, 01:27:21 PM
At the request of the Cowans family we have been asked to post the following:

“People are speculating on social media about the health and welfare of our dear Gordon Cowans, loving father to his children, Jenna and Henry.

Messages mistakenly saying he has been admitted to a hospice, with one even stating R.I.P, are hurtful and upsetting to those closest to him. Gordon is suffering from a deteriorating illness, and it is progressing.   

He has entered a care facility because his welfare is paramount.  There is a long-term health plan in place, formulated with specialists in the field of his illness. It is reviewed regularly to ensure Gordon's needs are best served and provided for. Considering all he faces, he is doing well, both physically and mentally.

For the sake of his children and grandchildren, I ask people support their wishes by not spreading the drama and conjecture we are seeing. Please respect this simple request. By doing so, you will be showing valuable support for Gordon, and his family.   
Thank you for understanding and caring x

Jenna Walford Thomas Walford Henry Cowans Rose Charlotte”

https://twitter.com/LoveMcGrathpod/status/1773698309883863148

Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Somniloquism on March 29, 2024, 04:10:32 PM
Obviously without Cowans, Platt would never have scored the amount he did. However also watching any of Cowans passes to him, Platt had a brilliant first touch that is sometimes forgotten. Just a shame he decided to ignore Villa in later days.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: ventnorVillain on March 29, 2024, 05:26:49 PM
I used to have the pleasure of bumping into Clive Allen from time to time. He always said that Sid was the best footballer he ever played with or against and that it was a disgrace he didn't have at least 50 caps for England. Clive was good to talk football with and was always very respectful of Villa and our place in the pantheon of English football. He loved playing at Villa Park and enjoyed the atmosphere and history of the place.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Villa Lew on March 29, 2024, 05:53:10 PM
Such sad news, a brilliant footballer and a brilliant man.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 29, 2024, 09:10:52 PM
I also remember his debut at Villa Park. He made what was to become his trademark, a sliding tackle with trailing leg under his backside, so that he came out of the tackle running with the ball at his feet. We were stunned by the sight of it .

The most enjoyable thing about seeing that done was that whereas we, watching in the crowd, could see and would know exactly what was going to happen, Sid's opponent would be left sitting on the floor in a state of total surprise, wondering where the hell the ball had gone.

My dad said that in watching the Villa for over 70 years, no one player had given him greater enjoyment than Gordon Cowans, which I think in large part was because Sid's slender frame was in inverse proportion to absolutely everything he brought to his game, not least his fearlessness and strength. It's not a word I would usually use to describe a footballer, but Gordon Cowans was a beautiful footballer.

Beautiful Footballer fits the description perfectly. That ability, technique and timing allowing him to slide into a  tackle with his ball winning leg bent at the knee ready to be successful in its endeavour was totally unique to Cowans. I always thought to myself that every one should copy it. I’m sure they tried but just couldn’t pull it off like him. Quite clearly it couldn’t be taught either. You just knew how it was done and only one person knew.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 29, 2024, 09:35:53 PM
I used to have the pleasure of bumping into Clive Allen from time to time. ..... He loved playing at Villa Park and enjoyed the atmosphere and history of the place.

I bet he fucking did. Especially that time he basically showed us we were going down on the first day of the season.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 29, 2024, 09:47:26 PM
Even watching Sid warm up was a joy. The triangles he used to play with Paul McGrath and David Platt before games showed how effortless he found controlling and passing a ball.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: nick harper on March 29, 2024, 10:13:48 PM
I used to have the pleasure of bumping into Clive Allen from time to time. He always said that Sid was the best footballer he ever played with or against and that it was a disgrace he didn't have at least 50 caps for England. Clive was good to talk football with and was always very respectful of Villa and our place in the pantheon of English football. He loved playing at Villa Park and enjoyed the atmosphere and history of the place.

He should have won England caps before he did but he was really establishing himself in 1983 and playing brilliantly when he had that terrible leg break in pre-season that year. He didn’t play for 12 months and was then sold to Bari. He never re-established himself with England.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: FrankyH on March 29, 2024, 10:21:04 PM
I remember watching Sid warming up at Villa Park . He used to always do this trick of flipping the ball off the deck onto either foot the spinning around 360 on his standing foot. Always tried to copy this trick , never as gracefully Sid executed it though.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: VillaTim on March 29, 2024, 10:36:18 PM
I remember watching Sid warming up at Villa Park . He used to always do this trick of flipping the ball off the deck onto either foot the spinning around 360 on his standing foot. Always tried to copy this trick , never as gracefully Sid executed it though.
I remember him fizzing passes across the pitch inch perfect with a slight spin on the ball. I've never seen anything like it before or since. Legend.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: waynejames on March 29, 2024, 11:23:43 PM
My earliest memory of Sid was me as 9 year old watching us vs West Ham in Dec 1982, i was at the fence directly behind the goal.
0-0 at the time, penalty to Villa at the Holte End
Up steps Sid to face Phil Parkes who to a nine year old seemed a bloody giant with hands like shovels.
Calm as you like, Sid hands on hips did a little sway before running up and side footing the ball into my bottom left on the net.
That was the day he became my man.
Only 24k at VP that day but i'm proud to say i was there.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 30, 2024, 02:05:16 AM
If anyone can find footage of Platt’s hat-trick v Spurs in a 3-2 home win, that shows Sid’s talent as well as anything I’ve seen. I watched it the other day and now I can’t find it.

Spurs match 46.55

&ab_channel=AstonVillaF.C

Thanks Pete.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Hillbilly on March 30, 2024, 02:46:06 AM
Also Kent Neilsen v Inter at about 1h10m
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: dorsetvillian on March 30, 2024, 09:47:42 AM
I had a lovely chance to meet Sid with my lad who was about 8 at the time. My lad was doing footy coaching with Bournemouth FC. He always wore his Villa kit and the coaches invited us to watch Bournemouth Youth play Villa U16's and U18's at a local school that afternoon. We stood in the middle of the two pitches watching both games and up walked Sid who was coaching one of the teams. We chatted during the game and he was great with my lad, taking pictures afterwards. We even helped Sid collect all the balls, cones and bibs at the end. Such a lovely bloke and the best midfielder I've seen at Villa...
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 30, 2024, 10:44:10 AM
I also remember his debut at Villa Park. He made what was to become his trademark, a sliding tackle with trailing leg under his backside, so that he came out of the tackle running with the ball at his feet. We were stunned by the sight of it .

The most enjoyable thing about seeing that done was that whereas we, watching in the crowd, could see and would know exactly what was going to happen, Sid's opponent would be left sitting on the floor in a state of total surprise, wondering where the hell the ball had gone.

My dad said that in watching the Villa for over 70 years, no one player had given him greater enjoyment than Gordon Cowans, which I think in large part was because Sid's slender frame was in inverse proportion to absolutely everything he brought to his game, not least his fearlessness and strength. It's not a word I would usually use to describe a footballer, but Gordon Cowans was a beautiful footballer.

Beautiful Footballer fits the description perfectly. That ability, technique and timing allowing him to slide into a  tackle with his ball winning leg bent at the knee ready to be successful in its endeavour was totally unique to Cowans. I always thought to myself that every one should copy it. I’m sure they tried but just couldn’t pull it off like him. Quite clearly it couldn’t be taught either. You just knew how it was done and only one person knew.
Sums up Sid perfectly for me...such a wonderful player in every way...a great eye, overwhelming natural ability, superb passing, an eye for goal and loved a tackle. He gave his heart and soul for us and we will all give a bit of our hearts and souls to him and his family at a difficult period in his life.
I stood next to him at the Wolves' game at their place a few years ago and bumped into him at a few away games...also had a nice chat at the 40th Anniversary '82 celebrations at The Academy...he looked in great nick and was as modest and tolerant with me as possible. It was very clear that he loved The Villa.

As an aside, in a modern world, he is the biggest influence on all of my passwords!
We love you Sid.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 30, 2024, 11:11:36 AM
I worry every time this thread gets bumped. One of my favourite players of all time, and a nice bloke as well.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Rotterdam on March 30, 2024, 11:14:20 AM
Wishing Sid and his family all the best. A true villa great.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 30, 2024, 09:15:37 PM
Unai met Sid tonight after the game

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJ8jWZ7W8AEIjFw?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: eamonn on March 30, 2024, 09:42:29 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 30, 2024, 09:43:48 PM
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on March 30, 2024, 09:54:40 PM
I would rate the understanding of Sid and Platt up there with any of them.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 31, 2024, 12:14:05 AM
That photo makes you happy and sad all at once.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: WassallVillain on March 31, 2024, 10:45:58 AM
Great picture. Makes me happy to see him out and about and contributing on a match day. It is a 10 shirt in the picture behind him but I can’t make out if it is Sid in the picture. If it is makes this photo even more special.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 31, 2024, 10:48:26 AM
Great picture. Makes me happy to see him out and about and contributing on a match day. It is a 10 shirt in the picture behind him but I can’t make out if it is Sid in the picture. If it is makes this photo even more special.

Close.

It's Andi Weimann ;-)
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 31, 2024, 10:48:44 AM
Great picture. Makes me happy to see him out and about and contributing on a match day. It is a 10 shirt in the picture behind him but I can’t make out if it is Sid in the picture. If it is makes this photo even more special.

I think it's the Weimann photo.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Legion on March 31, 2024, 10:57:38 AM
It is.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 31, 2024, 11:03:42 AM
It's Weimann after scoring the winner in the 3-2 win over Man City in 13/14.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: WassallVillain on March 31, 2024, 11:05:16 AM
Quote from: WassallVillain link= :-[topic=60693.msg4561518#msg4561518 date=1711878358
Great picture. Makes me happy to see him out and about and contributing on a match day. It is a 10 shirt in the picture behind him but I can’t make out if it is Sid in the picture. If it is makes this photo even more special.

Close.

It's Andi Weimann

I had hoped it was Sid but suspected it wasn’t. I’m a bit embarrassed now. Seeing some of the players who have had it since perhaps we should have retired the shirt. There’s a hashtag if ever the was one for those who do that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 31, 2024, 11:05:51 AM
I saw Sid play a good few times in his first spell but I was very young and those memories are blurry.l, but obviously seen loads of tv footage. My main memories are his second spell and the combination with Platt, unreal. And to think that side also contained McGrath. A truly fantastic player.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: WassallVillain on March 31, 2024, 11:17:55 AM
I saw Sid play a good few times in his first spell but I was very young and those memories are blurry.l, but obviously seen loads of tv footage. My main memories are his second spell and the combination with Platt, unreal. And to think that side also contained McGrath. A truly fantastic player.

I saw him come through into the team. In those championship and European cup winnng years he could hit the badge on the centre of Peter Withes shirt  with either foot from anywhere on the pitch. If anyone has the video of his free kick  goal at Goodison Park in SGT’s last game I’d love to see it. Remarkable technique no pace on the ball just precision and flight.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: luke95 on March 31, 2024, 11:29:48 AM
That's so good to see him looking well.
Made my day already.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Pete3206 on March 31, 2024, 11:45:05 AM
I saw Sid play a good few times in his first spell but I was very young and those memories are blurry.l, but obviously seen loads of tv footage. My main memories are his second spell and the combination with Platt, unreal. And to think that side also contained McGrath. A truly fantastic player.

I saw him come through into the team. In those championship and European cup winnng years he could hit the badge on the centre of Peter Withes shirt  with either foot from anywhere on the pitch. If anyone has the video of his free kick  goal at Goodison Park in SGT’s last game I’d love to see it. Remarkable technique no pace on the ball just precision and flight.

At 1:24:40

&ab_channel=VillaBoy
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Drummond on August 07, 2024, 02:42:28 PM
https://x.com/MEW1934/status/1820846322296947020
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Steve67 on August 07, 2024, 07:00:17 PM
Love Gordon Cowans.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: HK Villan on August 07, 2024, 07:23:59 PM
I was lucky enough to see him in most home games in 1980 / 81 / 82. He had incomparable passing and tackling skills. He was always a true gentleman when I met him - a real Villa legend.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Somniloquism on August 07, 2024, 07:45:21 PM
Looks like Jim Walker on the couch next to Sid, who are the other two? (TBH I wouldn't have recognised Walters if the tweet wasn't from his account).
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: UK Redsox on August 07, 2024, 07:58:32 PM
Blimey, I didn’t know Jim was still around. He doesn’t look a lot different
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 07, 2024, 10:42:33 PM
I was lucky enough to see him in most home games in 1980 / 81 / 82. He had incomparable passing and tackling skills. He was always a true gentleman when I met him - a real Villa legend.
Agree, Legend.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: SaddVillan on August 07, 2024, 11:01:23 PM
Blimey, I didn’t know Jim was still around. He doesn’t look a lot different

https://youtu.be/DZ8dA67VZEs?si=cLa0q9gw13pbf50Y

Great interview with Jim by Pete Schaad of The Holy Trinity podcast.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: SaddVillan on August 07, 2024, 11:04:12 PM
Sid, Dennis Mortimer and Brian Little - there should be a public enquiry into why they got so few caps (in Dennis's case - none at all).
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 07, 2024, 11:07:14 PM
I know the lad on the left, and the one next to him.
https://x.com/MEW1934/status/1820846322296947020
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 07, 2024, 11:27:12 PM
I know some will consider it small time but shouldn’t we have a few more statues around the stadium? I mean Gordon would be a candidate ? 
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 07, 2024, 11:28:14 PM
Kinsella not so much.  Mings in time.  Ronald Saunders?
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 07, 2024, 11:37:20 PM
I know some will consider it small time but shouldn’t we have a few more statues around the stadium? I mean Gordon would be a candidate ? 

The best Villa player in my life time. Love him. If I was to pick a fault, possibly his only fault, his goal celebration needed a bit of work.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: darren woolley on August 08, 2024, 08:31:31 AM
I used to love to watch Sid play he used to make the game look so easy when he played he was that good.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 08, 2024, 08:54:27 AM
Sid is one of those players that if you had never seen him play and you hear about him from those that did, you'd think he couldn't have been that good, take it from me who saw most of his career, he was.
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Post by: FrankyH on August 08, 2024, 09:37:48 AM
I don't know if its Claret & Blue coloured spectacles and my exuberance of youth, but I always thought (and still do) Sid was a genuinely world class footballer.
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Post by: sid1964 on August 08, 2024, 09:47:40 AM
Sid was brilliant for us - and is still my favourite all time Villa footballer.
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Post by: Rotterdam on August 08, 2024, 09:53:38 AM
One of our very best and probably underrated by those outside of B6.

If we were looking at another statue, I'd go Ron.
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Post by: Rico on August 08, 2024, 09:54:23 AM
People talk about world class players, well Sid was definitely up there with the best. Effortlessly gliding around the pitch, making killer passes and crunching tackles. Shameful that he didn't play for England more.
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Post by: cdward on August 08, 2024, 09:59:36 AM
Sid Cowans definitely one of the best Villa players of all time, plus he must be the only player to have signed for Villa 3 times.
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Post by: Risso on August 08, 2024, 10:28:58 AM
Sid Cowans definitely one of the best Villa players of all time, plus he must be the only player to have signed for Villa 3 times.

How quickly the legend that is Axel Tuanzebe is forgotten!
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Post by: Pat Mustard on August 08, 2024, 10:33:53 AM
I was too young in 81-82 to see him play then, but was there for his second coming and all I can say is that he is undoubtedly the most under-rated English midfielder of the last 50 years.  As much as I liked Douglas Luiz, if we'd had a prime Sid in his position last season we could have won the league.
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Post by: Gareth on August 08, 2024, 10:34:22 AM
People talk about world class players, well Sid was definitely up there with the best. Effortlessly gliding around the pitch, making killer passes and crunching tackles. Shameful that he didn't play for England more.

Always said if Glenn Hoddle could have tackled he’d have still been no better than Sid….if Sid had played in London he’d have have way more caps than Hoddle
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Post by: LeeB on August 08, 2024, 10:40:20 AM
People talk about world class players, well Sid was definitely up there with the best. Effortlessly gliding around the pitch, making killer passes and crunching tackles. Shameful that he didn't play for England more.

Always said if Glenn Hoddle could have tackled he’d have still been no better than Sid….if Sid had played in London he’d have have way more caps than Hoddle

London players always got more caps so the FA could boost attendances, I'm convinced of it.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on August 08, 2024, 10:45:03 AM
Sid's vision to see a pass and ability to execute it are the best I have seen and not just for Villa players. 
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Post by: LeeB on August 08, 2024, 10:46:29 AM
He was and remains my favourite Villa player, the most elegant footballer you could wish to see.
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Post by: Chris Smith on August 08, 2024, 11:07:48 AM
He was and remains my favourite Villa player, the most elegant footballer you could wish to see.

Even his slide tackles were elegantly executed.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 08, 2024, 11:15:56 AM
He was and remains my favourite Villa player, the most elegant footballer you could wish to see.

Even his slide tackles were elegantly executed.

Only he could do them, timing, execution, bravery, it was his, not copied from another player and obviously not possible to pass on to other players. You could either do it, or you couldn't. 
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Post by: Risso on August 08, 2024, 11:23:23 AM
I remember the fuss when Graham Taylor as England boss, brought Sid back for one game, dropping Paul Gascoigne in the process. You'd think Taylor had shat in the Queen's bedroom such was the national outrage.
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Post by: jwarry on August 08, 2024, 11:50:48 AM
He was and remains my favourite Villa player, the most elegant footballer you could wish to see.

Even his slide tackles were elegantly executed.

Only he could do them, timing, execution, bravery, it was his, not copied from another player and obviously not possible to pass on to other players. You could either do it, or you couldn't. 

Alex Cropley could do it and it’s entirely possible he taught Sid to do them
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Post by: ez on August 08, 2024, 03:26:10 PM
Sid is probably the player I've seen play more than any other as I had season tickets from the late 70s to the mid 90s. My favourite all time Villa player. Fans of other clubs speak well of him too.
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Post by: Proposition Joe on August 08, 2024, 03:56:56 PM
I remember the fuss when Graham Taylor as England boss, brought Sid back for one game, dropping Paul Gascoigne in the process. You'd think Taylor had shat in the Queen's bedroom such was the national outrage.

Was that a friendly away to Ireland, played during the afternoon on a weekday for some reason, or is my memory playing tricks on me?
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 08, 2024, 04:02:17 PM
I can definitely remember England playing Ireland during the day and discussing it at school. I think it was 1-1 and both goals scored by Villa players?
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Post by: LeeB on August 08, 2024, 04:03:39 PM
I remember the fuss when Graham Taylor as England boss, brought Sid back for one game, dropping Paul Gascoigne in the process. You'd think Taylor had shat in the Queen's bedroom such was the national outrage.

Was that a friendly away to Ireland, played during the afternoon on a weekday for some reason, or is my memory playing tricks on me?

It was a qualifier not a friendly, but yes it was a Wednesday afternoon I think.

I once asked him at a Q&A about that, and how I felt it was disrespectful as he was a better player than Gascoigne.

He pretty much laughed at me and said he wasn't fit to lace Gascoigne's boots.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 08, 2024, 04:08:53 PM
He was and remains my favourite Villa player, the most elegant footballer you could wish to see.

Even his slide tackles were elegantly executed.

Only he could do them, timing, execution, bravery, it was his, not copied from another player and obviously not possible to pass on to other players. You could either do it, or you couldn't. 

Alex Cropley could do it and it’s entirely possible he taught Sid to do them

I remember Alex Cropley with great fondness.  He was a very good at full bodied slide tackles. Never as good or accurate as Sid though. Sid didn't just slide tackle, it was like he was navigating the curve on a Speedway Bike he managed the tackle and the control of the ball in a movement and then come away with it.   
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 08, 2024, 04:17:52 PM
Sid didn't just slide tackle, it was like he was navigating the curve on a Speedway Bike he managed the tackle and the control of the ball in a movement and then come away with it.   

Poetry in motion, not something you'd normally say about a tackle but that was Sid.
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Post by: clash city rocker on August 08, 2024, 04:27:09 PM
I'll never forget that pass of his to Daley away to smethwick that set up an amazing goal. Stood behind the goal and going mental when it went in.
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Post by: Virgil Caine on August 08, 2024, 04:29:32 PM
It has been written on here before but it is worth repeating, when asked by a journalist if he had any ambitions David Platt is rumoured to have said 'I'd like to make a run that Sid Cowans doesn't spot '.

The best footballer I have seen at Villa Park and one worthy of being called 'professional'. I never saw him feign injury, attempt to get an opposing player booked, argue with a referee or make ridiculous salary demands. I cannot remember him ever being cautioned or even spoken to by a Ref but that might be rose tinted glasses. One thing I really admired was that he was naturally two-footed and could ping a 30-40 yard pass with accuracy with either his left or his right foot, watch the You Tube excerpts of the FA Cup tie at the Bitterdome to see two masterful examples of his art. One defence splitting pass to Derek Mountfield and the other a raking 50 yard pass for Tony Daley to run in a score.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2024, 04:29:46 PM
As our favourites get on in years, if we dig up an old thread to share good news can we add - not to worry or something at the end of the title? Like we do with Paul McGrath. There have been so many recent passings or bits of unfortunate news it would be nice to know immediately that things are well.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2024, 04:35:03 PM
It has been written on here before but it is worth repeating, when asked by a journalist if he had any ambitions David Platt is rumoured to have said 'I'd like to make a run that Sid Cowans doesn't spot '.

The best footballer I have seen at Villa Park and one worthy of being called 'professional'. I never saw him feign injury, attempt to get an opposing player booked, argue with a referee or make ridiculous salary demands. I cannot remember him ever being cautioned or even spoken to by a Ref but that might be rose tinted glasses. One thing I really admired was that he was naturally two-footed and could ping a 30-40 yard pass with accuracy with either his left or his right foot, watch the You Tube excerpts of the FA Cup tie at the Bitterdome to see two masterful examples of his art. One defence splitting pass to Derek Mountfield and the other a raking 50 yard pass for Tony Daley to run in a score.

It wasn't a rumour. Platt said it in an interview with BRMB after his move to Bari was announced.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on August 08, 2024, 05:13:07 PM
One thing I really admired was that he was naturally two-footed and could ping a 30-40 yard pass with accuracy with either his left or his right foot, watch the You Tube excerpts of the FA Cup tie at the Bitterdome to see two masterful examples of his art. One defence splitting pass to Derek Mountfield and the other a raking 50 yard pass for Tony Daley to run in a score.
He even managed to head their only chance off the line that day.
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Post by: Flamingo Lane on August 08, 2024, 05:24:01 PM
I'll never forget that pass of his to Daley away to smethwick that set up an amazing goal. Stood behind the goal and going mental when it went in.

One of my favourite ever goals, I too was stood behind the goal - lunchtime kick off, I recall, and heavy rain.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: Smithy on August 08, 2024, 05:43:24 PM
When I was a kid playing football, I developed an affectation of tapping the toe of my kicking foot onto the floor behind me, before taking a set piece, and it was a while before I realised I was copying Sid.  I'd just subconsciously learned THIS was how you take set pieces.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2024, 06:18:35 PM
As our favourites get on in years, if we dig up an old thread to share good news can we add - not to worry or something at the end of the title? Like we do with Paul McGrath. There have been so many recent passings or bits of unfortunate news it would be nice to know immediately that things are well.

And just like that very sadly Alan Little has passed away aged 69. Condolences to his family and of course Sir Brian.
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Post by: sid1964 on August 09, 2024, 07:14:04 AM
Me and a fair few other Villa fans were in the Brummie Road End to see the Sid pass for the Daley goal.

Remember reading after we won the league, that Sid had asked Sir Ron to be dropped from the team, because he thought he was not playing well. Ron kept playing him.
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Post by: Drummond on November 25, 2024, 12:19:52 PM
From the Guardian in reference to the Juventus game.

Cowans is adored at Villa Park. In an era of all-action midfielders who oozed testosterone, Cowans was a symbol of understated class. “What a player,” says Blair. “His energy, his ability with right or left foot, his awareness and ability to pick a pass. He was tenacious; he had everything. He’d be a great player in any system, in any era. He’s the best player I ever played with and a great person.”

Oh how I'd love him to be in this side.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 25, 2024, 12:21:55 PM
From the Guardian in reference to the Juventus game.

Cowans is adored at Villa Park. In an era of all-action midfielders who oozed testosterone, Cowans was a symbol of understated class. “What a player,” says Blair. “His energy, his ability with right or left foot, his awareness and ability to pick a pass. He was tenacious; he had everything. He’d be a great player in any system, in any era. He’s the best player I ever played with and a great person.”

Oh how I'd love him to be in this side.

The little shuffle he does before playing the ball out for it to come back in for his goal, which is referred to in that article, was absolutely exquisite.

He could have been part of that Juventus side and not looked remotely out of place.
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Post by: LeeB on November 25, 2024, 02:24:50 PM
And he's right about any era, he was a complete natural. I mentioned it before but it was only fairly recently watching the highlights of the Everton 6-2 game that I realised he had assists from set pieces taken with each foot.

I don't really recall any other player that could do that, yes there have been two footed players but they would usually have a favoured foot for delivering something as precise as a free kick.
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Post by: Drummond on November 25, 2024, 02:34:48 PM
Any era, any system, any team.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2024, 02:45:02 PM
Nice of Tony Blair to give him that praise.
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Post by: ventnorVillain on November 25, 2024, 03:08:32 PM
I occasionally used to bump into Clive Allen (ex Spurs, Crystal Palace Man. City and England, for you youngsters, and serial scorer of goals against us) who told me that he was the best player he ever played with or against and thought it was a travesty that he didn't have far more England caps than he did.
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Post by: dcdavecollett on November 25, 2024, 03:09:27 PM
Just trying to butter up the Villa fans so they don't demand he goes to prison for his war crimes in Iraq.
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Post by: Des Little on November 25, 2024, 03:18:51 PM
Nice of Tony Blair to give him that praise.

I think it was Lionel Blair.  He praised him using the form of mime. 
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Post by: LeeB on November 25, 2024, 03:20:39 PM
Just trying to butter up the Villa fans so they don't demand he goes to prison for his war crimes in Iraq.

Wasn't aware of Clive Allen's war crimes but he did break my little heart with his opening day hat-trick against us in '86.
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Post by: PeterWithe on November 25, 2024, 03:25:33 PM
Just trying to butter up the Villa fans so they don't demand he goes to prison for his war crimes in Iraq.

Wasn't aware of Clive Allen's war crimes but he did break my little heart with his opening day hat-trick against us in '86.

I remember that game, there was an air of mild optimism that we might not be that bad this season, that didn't last long.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2024, 03:44:54 PM
Ah my first real season of attending what a joy that was.  I remember a few weeks later someone shouting ‘clean sheet today Kev’ at Kevin Poole whilst he was warming up.  Cue 1-4 at home to Norwich.  Admittedly Hodge contributed  to one of their goals.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 25, 2024, 04:50:22 PM
I might have mentioned it before, but when he played for us the first time, I was so sick of people not realising how great he was, I almost wanted him to move to a club where he’d get the credit he deserved.
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Post by: dubont on November 25, 2024, 05:15:59 PM
Just trying to butter up the Villa fans so they don't demand he goes to prison for his war crimes in Iraq.

Wasn't aware of Clive Allen's war crimes but he did break my little heart with his opening day hat-trick against us in '86.

I remember that game, there was an air of mild optimism that we might not be that bad this season, that didn't last long.

About 3 minutes, if I recall.
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Post by: Mister E on November 25, 2024, 05:39:19 PM
I might have mentioned it before, but when he played for us the first time, I was so sick of people not realising how great he was, I almost wanted him to move to a club where he’d get the credit he deserved.
He was massively hard done-by in terms of praise and recognition outside of B6. Looking at the England teams he played in, there were some pretty average players: he might well have formed a perfect partnership with one of Hoddle or Devonshire but other journeymen seemed to be favoured (Sammy Lee, John Gregory, for example).
I'm still as ever convinced it was that he played for an unfavoured club.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 25, 2024, 06:12:52 PM
Nice of Tony Blair to give him that praise.

Don't think it was Tony, he'd have described Sid as the 'People's Player'.
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Post by: RamboandBruno on November 25, 2024, 08:23:00 PM
Just trying to butter up the Villa fans so they don't demand he goes to prison for his war crimes in Iraq.

Wasn't aware of Clive Allen's war crimes but he did break my little heart with his opening day hat-trick against us in '86.
Bob Wilson was one of the pundits for the BBC at the time, a few of them had to predict who they thought would do well. He predicted us as dark horses for the league after we’d bought Garry Thompson, Neil Cooper, Martin Keown to add to the players already there like Mark Walters, Steve Hunt, Paul Birch, Steve Hodge etc.
I was 12, had my first season ticket after a few years of paying on the door and I believed Wilson. Clive Allen burst my bubble pretty quickly and then it got worse.
Anyway, i had the pleasure if seeing Sid second time around more regularly than first time. Him, Platt, McGrath in the same team, times were had, what a player
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2024, 09:17:46 PM
If we hadn’t gone down we might never have had SGT.  I remember him controversially telling the players to wash their own kits in his first season.
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Post by: Chip Butty 111 on November 25, 2024, 10:33:32 PM
For a player of short stature, devoid of pace and slight of build he was remarkable. Gifted with both feet , a sublime tackler and a wonderful football brain. One of the best creative midfielders ever. And one of us..
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Post by: jon collett on November 25, 2024, 11:43:04 PM
Listening to Keown’s audio book at the moment and obviously started with the Villa chapters.

Don Howe had a go at him for signing for Villa when they met with England U21s. I remember Howe getting quite nasty with Villa when C*v manager.

I wonder how many great Villa players from early 80s didn’t get England caps because of Howe’s anti Villa malign influence?
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Post by: Accent Guy on November 26, 2024, 05:20:46 AM
Listening to Keown’s audio book at the moment and obviously started with the Villa chapters.

Don Howe had a go at him for signing for Villa when they met with England U21s. I remember Howe getting quite nasty with Villa when C*v manager.

I wonder how many great Villa players from early 80s didn’t get England caps because of Howe’s anti Villa malign influence?

Yes, him and Greenwood cost arguably the greatest team in our history, a bucket load of caps, and robbed a relatively poor England side of some really talented players. That said, our star English players did seem to get a fair few injuries around those times.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: sid1964 on November 26, 2024, 06:17:26 AM
I remember the 82 world cup - Greenwood picking both Keegan and Brooking who were both injured and not fit to play in the games.

How can a team that had just won the European Cup and the league the previous season be so under represented in an England squad

Yesterday on youtube I watched the Sunderland home game from the season we won the league - watching Cowans, Morley and Shaw was a joy and I was there as well!
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Post by: Chap on November 26, 2024, 07:43:22 AM
Unfortunately Keegan and Brooking were media darlings🤔
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: Mister E on November 26, 2024, 07:52:23 AM
The best game I recall from Sid was the first away game in August 1978, at Spudddds. They'd just brought in Rickie Villa and Ardiles. We won 4-1 and Cowans was the midfielder who looked like a world-cup winner.
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Post by: London Villan on November 26, 2024, 08:26:01 AM
What was Greenwood's problem with Villa? Seems odd that an England team that didn't actually qualify for a world cup for 20 years wouldn't use English players that actually won things...
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: nick harper on November 26, 2024, 10:16:48 AM
I remember the 82 world cup - Greenwood picking both Keegan and Brooking who were both injured and not fit to play in the games.

How can a team that had just won the European Cup and the league the previous season be so under represented in an England squad

Yesterday on youtube I watched the Sunderland home game from the season we won the league - watching Cowans, Morley and Shaw was a joy and I was there as well!

Watch the away game from that season. Cowans plays the most delicious first time through ball for Dennis to run onto and score. He was simply a genius.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 26, 2024, 10:54:16 AM
Anyone remember that cross field pass away to Wimbledon during the SGT era.  Incredible and one we scored from.  I remember it was our first win over Wimbledon they always seemed to beat us.
Title: Re: Gordon Cowans - still going
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 26, 2024, 10:59:07 AM
That pass is right at the beginning of this clip.
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Post by: dcdavecollett on November 26, 2024, 01:05:04 PM
England WC squad. Do I pick Sid Cowans? Nah, I'll go with Rix of Arsenal and Armstrong of Southampton.

The football equivalent of self-harming.
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