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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 04, 2020, 02:06:39 PM
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Back to 4-3-3 then.
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Lansbury? Oh my God!!
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Great. Why not keep the same bastard formation that worked in the last game.
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The line up makes complete sense.
Don’t risk key players and get some squad players game time.
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Win please.
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Great. Why not keep the same bastard formation that worked in the last game.
Haven’t got enough center backs to rotate 3 ATB and we have a big game in the week
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Is that a normal Fulham line up ?
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Is that a normal Fulham line up ?
No Mitrovic who I guess would start normally, no idea about the rest. They have got to PL defender Joe Bryan though!
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Exactly what I expected. And understandable I think with the games coming up and given the minutes Hause and Konsa have played recently and Mings just back from injury.
We hope that would still be enough and that we are able to see Ramsey and Vassilev for part of the game.
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Is that a normal Fulham line up ?
Likes of Mitrovic and Tom Cairney not involved so not their full strength team by 3-4 players.
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Chaps, Hause has only just started playing the last month. I wouldn’t expect him to burn out if he plays every game till the end of the season.
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Bit stronger than I expected, come on Villa.
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Josh Onomah?
Their number 8 is an utter ******. He'll still be ambling around, trying to foul Grealish, despite Jack not being there, no doubt.
Come on Villa.
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Not a bad line up. Would have liked us to stick with 3 at the back, but I guess he wants to rest Hause and Konsa. UTV.
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As I predicted (but only to myself so I don't have written down proof). Gizza chance guv?
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Yep, I reckon he's got that team about right.
Bit concerned about the show pony, Jota and Kodj in the same team. I guess the other seven outfield players will have to work even harder.
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I'm locked outside the Guess the Crowd for this one.
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Disappointed not to see Cam given a run-out.
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Come on Villa. It's about time we won the fa cup.
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Lansbury? Oh my God!!
So Lansbury is already this weeks designated ' Goat then ?' ?I hope he has a cracking game, of course I do I'm a Villa SUPPORTER . pre game is time for some
positivity, post, leave the knives until
post game, please ?......Godzvilla!
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Think the teams fine under the circumstances. Would of liked him to stick to the 3 centre back formation, but can understand he doesn’t want to risk injuries to Mings, Konsa or Hause. I’ll be more disappointed if Smith reverts to the old formation against Leicester on Wednesday or Man City Sunday, but that’s for another day.
Probably a bit dramatic, but to me both Lansbury and Jota need to show they can perform against a championship team today to have any chance of having any role in the premier league this season.
Good to see Chester back. Lacking a bit of pace at the pack though.
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Is this on PADL?
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Decent lineup and makes sense, and “should” be enough to turn them over. He’s made the right decisions for me so won’t be complaining or concerned if we don’t get a good result today. Enjoy the game if you’re down there. Come on you Villa boys!
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Lansbury? Oh my God!!
So Lansbury is already this weeks designated ' Goat then ?' ?I hope he has a cracking game, of course I do I'm a Villa SUPPORTER . pre game is time for some
positivity, post, leave the knives until
post game, please ?......Godzvilla!
p
Are you ok mate?
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I wasn't expecting this game to be televised. Nice.
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The game is being televised on bein sports hd 11 I believe. DM me if you manage to get it. UTV
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Nakamba booked
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Really weird, low down close up angle it’s being filmed from.
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Sloppy roll out from Nyland, tackle from Marvelous and he gets booked.
Joe Bryan the Fulham player tackled.....
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I'm not usually one for overreacting, and I appreciate it's 0-0 and pretty bland so far, but if I see us get caught offside from a short corner again this season...I'm going on a brutal and remorseless killing spree.
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I'm not usually one for overreacting, and I appreciate it's 0-0 and pretty bland so far, but if I see us get caught offside from a short corner again this season...I'm going on a brutal and remorseless killing spree.
Nobody would blame you either.
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
Blues have got one row of seats.
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
As have Cardiff.
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
Blues have got one row of seats.
And that's different to league games how?
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
Blues have got one row of seats.
That many?
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The line up makes complete sense.
Don’t risk key players and get some squad players game time.
Surely should have kept same formation anyway. Chester can't play left centre back and Hause could have come in with either non entities Lansbury or Jota on the bench . Don't envy Nakamba's job today given the players next to and in front of him.
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El Ghazi is really poor.
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I need a pee but can't tear myself away from this action packed game.
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I need a pee but can't tear myself away from this action packed game.
Yes it's pretty thing gruel so far.
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Horrible camera view, we look very flat so far
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
Blues have got one row of seats.
That many?
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What exactly is the point of El Ghazi??
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Taylor booked now. Feels like another game where the fringe players aren't going to do much today.
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It's a belter of a game!!
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
Blues have got one row of seats.
That many?
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Must be stock take weekend at the Rover.
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What exactly is the point of El Ghazi??
Shirt sales in Egypt?
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What exactly is the point of El Ghazi??
Beat me to it. He’s making a very good case for not being part of a PL club next season. His final ball has been so poor. I’d rather use him as a striker than winger.
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What exactly is the point of El Ghazi??
Shirt sales in Egypt?
He's Dutch.
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A shot!!!!!!
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He's dutch of course.
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Kodija is never ever going to pass the ball again in a Villa shirt, is he..h
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Did he ever really?
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Not sure why we're playing any forwards, the service to them is zero.
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Is it too early to start talking about a reply after this finishes 0-0?
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Not sure why we're playing any forwards, the service to them is zero.
We're not, we're playing Kodjia
/baddumtish
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They promised his Mummy?
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Christ, we have been cursed with some real shite at leftback over the years.
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Ta.
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26 minutes in and I've just noticed Lansbury is playing.
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Another wicket for England. Eh? What do you mean wrong thread?
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What exactly is the point of El Ghazi??
Shirt sales in Egypt?
He's Dutch.
Dual Netherlands/Morocco citizenship. Definitely not Egyptian though.
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I wonder what he walks like?
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Ah. Moroccan. My mistake. Is Trezeguet Egyptian?
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26 minutes in and I've just noticed Lansbury is playing.
Do you remember those Eye Spy books for car journeys in the 70s? Extra points if you spot Jota in the first 45 minutes.
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Ah. Moroccan. My mistake. Is Trezeguet Egyptian?
Yep
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Can someone please tell Dean Smith this formation is fucking shit with the players we have.
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Ah. Moroccan. My mistake. Is Trezeguet Egyptian?
Yep.
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Can someone please tell Dean Smith this formation is fucking shit with the players we have.
It's definitely the players that are shit today.
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Can someone please tell Dean Smith that some of his players are fucking shit.
I fixed it for you TV! You're welcome.
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I hate this formation, it encourages Taylor and Elmo to repeatedly twat it long down the line and invariably lose possesion.
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Can someone please tell Dean Smith this formation is fucking shit with the players we have.
4-3-3 can work well if we have pace in midfield and attack. We simply don't.
We need a signing or two next week.
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Thank you chaps. It’s probably a combination of formation not working and of course the players. Nobody will ever convince me that Neil Taylor is a professional footballer.
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All I can hear from the crowd is "yor saporrt is fackin' shit"
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I wonder what happened to Adama Traore. Selfish overrated twat.
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What a game. They have had the ball 60% of the time so far. This is just awful.
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Nakamba having a mare
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Basics basics basics 😡
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Nakamba switches off so many times throughout games.
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I wonder what happened to Adama Traore. Selfish overrated twat.
Wolves, not Fulham. Apparently a target for Liverpool (probs paper talks). He tore our defence a new one though.
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This is turgid stuff...two utterly crap teams fighting to see who can make the most basic errors.
Nyland's kicking is Tonev-esque.
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Nyland's kicking is Tonev-esque.
At least he has the good grace not to advertise himself as a goalscoring midfielder!
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Jota's playing, there he is! 44 mins in.
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Great save denies AEG
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1 minute extra time, were the hell have they got that from
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Good effort from Jota there
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HT. Thank fuck, need to catch my breath after that half.
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Gotta be burying that
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Christ El Ghazi, how do you miss an open goal like that?
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Phew! Breathtaking stuff.
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HT. Thank fuck, need to catch my breath after that half.
Need a drink, not sure my nerves can cope with this. Frenetic stuff.
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fucking ell el ghazi
that is shit ..you have to bury them
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Kodj got better towards the end of that half
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Christ El Ghazi, how do you miss an open goal like that?
Practice.
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Just got in from a liquid lunch. Sounds like I should have stayed for a couple more.
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With the last month of football we have had, I don't actually mind this game being devoid of any kind of bite or pace. Fulham being Fulham are happy to oblige. Just no injuries, please. Lets get some kids on in the final half hour and try and nick one.
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AEG just took this to a whole new level of dross.
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Christ El Ghazi, how do you miss an open goal like that?
Practice.
Ha!
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I wish we could press and pass the ball around like Fulham.
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So we have the worst of all worlds at the minute.
Heading for a replay and the fringe players are really shite.
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Maigc of the cup, Millwall have only opened 1 stand for home fans today.
Blues have got one row of seats.
That many?
(https://i.ibb.co/TbvPP4d/ENc-HYFSXUAE68-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TbvPP4d)
Must be stock take weekend at the Rover.
Attendance: 7,330
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You'll all be delighted to discover that by sitting in the home end I have obtained a free 'Come on Fulham' Clapper thing.
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Should be winning. Piss poor attempt from el ghazi right on half time. My mrs would have scored that.
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You'll all be delighted to discover that by sitting in the home end I have obtained a free 'Come on Fulham' Clapper thing.
I'd like to see evidence that you set fire to it and give it a Viking burial in the Thames.
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Ha! The Russian Alan Brazil is giving studio analysis on my stream.
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Terrible game.
Terrible ground.
Terrible atmosphere.
Terrible performance.
Terrible opposition.
Terribly cold wind.
This is mind numbingly bad
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Kodja is doing okay, partucularly considering his lack of competitve match time over the last year.
The game as whole feels like a pre season friendly. Shite
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The BBC reporter just said Fulham failed to test Villa keeper Kallinic, of course standing in for injured tom heaton. What a bint
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To be fair she had her back to the pitch when reporting so that she could face the camera. Obviously watched the match that way too.
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Terrible game.
Terrible ground.
Terrible atmosphere.
Terrible performance.
Terrible opposition.
Terribly cold wind.
This is mind numbingly bad
You have my sympathies. I was offered a last-minute (home) ticket but, part-time (actually, closer to zero-hours) supporter that I am, I envisaged this very scenario so I'm warm at home around four miles up the road. I don't regret it.
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Clear tactic from Smith - this is my squad I need reinforcements!!
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Their builders are taking their time with that stand
They've only dug the footings and popped a few posts up.
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Clear tactic from Smith - this is my squad I need reinforcements!!
If he means in the coaching department he has a point.
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We're off, hold on to your seats!!
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Fulham have a shot
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Kevin Macdonald booked, still haven't forgiven him for some of his team selections.
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AEG shot https://twitter.com/KristofferF/status/1213488450445434880
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AEG shot https://twitter.com/KristofferF/status/1213488450445434880
is that misspelling?
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We look a bit higher up the pitch. How long will it last?
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1-0
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1-0 Fulham
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FFS!
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We look a bit higher up the pitch. How long will it last?
That long. Knockeart curls one into top corner.
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There we go.
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Fuck off
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We look a bit higher up the pitch. How long will it last?
1-0
Judging by the time between our posts, 1 minute and 12 seconds.
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Somehow they don't make it 2
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That's how you do it Anwar.
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Knockaert is only ever going to cut inside, naive as fuck defending thst was. Awful effort from Taylor and Nakamba.
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Elghazi is never going to pass the ball again, is he?
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Shame we were starting to play well and now confidence will be shot again
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We've been crap. Nakamba being the worst of the bunch.
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Awful, awful defending.
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Great strike in fairness.
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Taylor must of backed off at least 40 yards...not like him!
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Absolute worldy from Knockeart. I'd swap him for el ghazi in a heartbeat.
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The goal, jammy twat shanked his cross https://twitter.com/FulhamFCUSA/status/1213494607360729089
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The team has absolutely no shape to it.
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Well there won’t be any subs so it’s this 11 or bust.
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We've been crap. Nakamba being the worst of the bunch.
May as well stuck the kid on for him
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Oh well done Taylor, great defending. And you, Nakamba. Pair of tossers.
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Knockaert is only ever going to cut inside, naive as fuck defending thst was. Awful effort from Taylor and Nakamba.
Nakamba was first, slow to track back and then when Knockaert cut inside he backed off instead of sticking with his player. It really was a gift.
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In an Eddie Waring accent
"It's a knockaert"
And we are playing 11 jokers :(
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This looks like a Premier team against a Championship team with Fulham being the Premier league team.
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We are so weak, almost embarrassing.
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For a side that hasn't scored a header all season, we don't half pump a lot of hopeful crosses into the box.
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This looks like a Premier team against a Championship team with Fulham being the Premier league team.
Not really. Think that's overstating it somehow.
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The team has absolutely no shape to it.
We found a shape on Saturday that worked and we’ve gone away from it to one that hasn’t in a long time. Fucking surprise, surprise we look shit.
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Fulham fans.....your going down, wtf gives them that idea.
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We might as well play all the kids what a waste of time
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Nakamba is shite. What happened to the player we saw in his first couple of games?
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We're doing a Villa !
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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1-1 Jimmy
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Kod
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1-1. Kodj.
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Just saw a replay of their goal. That was an absolute lesson in backing off and inviting a shot. Fucking awful defending.
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AEG tapped it in, poacher's instinct.
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Good ole Jimmy D
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Well done Kodj, oh no well done El Ghazi
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Moroccan magic.
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This looks like a Premier team against a Championship team with Fulham being the Premier league team.
Fulham play the way I expected we would under Smith. How wrong was I.
Great finish from El Ghazi!
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Yes, at last, now lets bury this lot.
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Oh well done Taylor, great defending. And you, Nakamba. Pair of tossers.
Taylor shows him inside, Nakamba no effort at a tackle. Fine finish, mind. Really don't like our shape out there. 4123 or 433. Lansbury and Hourihane miles away from Nakamba.
Was gone to say Jota has been anonymous but that's a fine pass for the goal. Shitehousery from AEG for the goal 😄
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Good play from Kodjia. We're looking much better now.
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Nice move for our equaliser actually.
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Well done Kodj, oh no well done El Ghazi
Aye goal grabbing bastard. Hurrah Well done Anwar you Dutch genius
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A bit of a prick move by El Ghazi.
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Nice move for our equaliser actually.
...he said begrudgingly ;D
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Was it 100% going in anyway?
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A bit of a prick move by El Ghazi.
Not at all, you've got to make sure it's in in case the defender gets a foot on it.
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Goal https://twitter.com/VillaTil1Die/status/1213496961766174720
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Fair play El Ghazi. Defender right behind him. You make sure its a goal - no question.
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Fair play El Ghazi. Defender right behind him. You make sure its a goal - no question.
Football for beginners. Week one.
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He did the right thing by making sure.
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Joe Bryan, heh
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2-1
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Fair play El Ghazi. Defender right behind him. You make sure its a goal - no question.
Football for beginners. Week one.
He's obviously done his homework this week.
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2-1 Fulham
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FFS!
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Where the fuck is Nyland there?
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Useless barstewards.
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Cracking goal
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Not going to win it now are we, so best we can hope for is an extra game to our schedule. What in a pain in the arse.
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For fucks sake villa. Just fuck off will you. Another worldy!! Why do Fulham love getting one over us?
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Trez coming on for Jota
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Don't think you can blame Nyland
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Lazy Lansbury
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Jota shows good pace to run off the pitch after being subbed.
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Not a chance can you blame the keeper. That ball was swerving everywhere
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Trez coming on for Jota
That'll show 'em.
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Screamer that to be fair.
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Fulham just look better, sharper, faster.
We are a poor team too often.
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Lansbury close to two free Fulham players and doesn’t mark either of them. Arter is one of them, he receives it and bangs it in the net. With Lansbury slowly turning to close him down as the ball hits the back of the net. I’d haul him off now.
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Don't think you can blame Nyland
You can't. Not only did it swerve, it was right in the top corner.
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Another shanked cross for their second https://twitter.com/BrianDeHass/status/1213499182830489602
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don't know what's wrong with my Villa Tv feed only just had the equaliser as Fulham score their second!
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Don't think you can blame Nyland
You can't. Not only did it swerve, it was right in the top corner.
Exactly. Two great goals, you'd be raging if you were Nyland, not up to him to prevent long-range howitzers.
Our closing down hasn't really been good enough, but when is it ever.
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Where the fuck is Nyland there?
It was a cracking hit, Heaton isn't saving that one if he was playing.
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Arter hasn’t scored since 2017, but 2 mins with Angela ‘marking’ him sorted that out.
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I know we’ve said it before but our recruitment in the summer is looking increasingly suspect. Engels has totally changed for the worst. Nakamba jeez.
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Get the babs on now.
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Vasilev on for Nakamba
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A bit of a prick move by El Ghazi.
Of course he couldve just stepped aside & let the defender clear it off the line , the selfish bastard .
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Vasilev on for Nakamba
Americaaa!
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Where the fuck is Nyland there?
It was a cracking hit, Heaton isn't saving that one if he was playing.
In hindsight, I've posted a right McGowan there.
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
Hourihane’s been invisible for the better part of the game as well.
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
He’s a lower half of the table Championship player at best
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Lansbury really is dog shit. Total waste of time.
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Elmo is dog shit.He shouldn't still be at the club.
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That January trolley dash by Bruce looks to have really paid off. Hogan can’t get in Stokes side. Lansbury. Only Conor really and he’s in and out.
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Onomah looked much better than Lansbury and Hourihane. Bryan looks much better than Taylor and Targett.
Nakamba and Engels...what happened to their encouraging starts? They look woeful.
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
These games are to give players some game time, and also see if anyone has any guts to fight for a place.
If we lose it, oh well. Kodjia got a goal, so thats a plus.
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Elmo is Blues. He shouldn't still be at the club.
...? What
Edit: ah, must be autocorrect for d*gshit?
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Watford 3-0 up at HT. It’s now 3-3 vs Tranmere. Great game
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
These games are to give players some game time, and also see if anyone has any guts to fight for a place.
If we lose it, oh well. Kodjia got a goal, so thats a plus.
By "these games" do you mean FA Cup games? If so, not as far as I'm concerned.
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That January trolley dash by Bruce looks to have really paid off. Hogan can’t get in Stokes side. Lansbury. Only Conor really and he’s in and out.
Really, that's interesting.
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Elmo is Blues. He shouldn't still be at the club.
...? What
Typo. I honestly meant to write dogshi!! Wtf?
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Yes what has he done today?! That’s in and out isn’t it?
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
These games are to give players some game time, and also see if anyone has any guts to fight for a place.
If we lose it, oh well. Kodjia got a goal, so thats a plus.
By "these games" do you mean FA Cup games? If so, not as far as I'm concerned.
I expect people to work for their salary. I'm with hilts on this.
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We can’t get hold of the ball
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It's been useful to see some of them playing themselves out of contention and into being, hopefully, sold.
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We really are excellent when it comes to not winning football matches.
A fascinating insight into the total lack of quality beyond our ‘starters’.
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I feel like we’ve barely been in their end since the goal.
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How come their players are twice as fast as ours.
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Knockeart is miles better than anyone in our team today.
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
These games are to give players some game time, and also see if anyone has any guts to fight for a place.
If we lose it, oh well. Kodjia got a goal, so thats a plus.
By "these games" do you mean FA Cup games? If so, not as far as I'm concerned.
I expect people to work for their salary. I'm with hilts on this.
It's been disgraceful.
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6 mins added time
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It's been useful to see some of them playing themselves out of contention and into being, hopefully, sold.
Who'd have them?
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It's been useful to see some of them playing themselves out of contention and into being, hopefully, sold.
Subtle but very coy....lol.
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Today is terrifying glimpse into a Grealish-less future.
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Knockeart is miles better than anyone in our team today.
Engels just lets him run in behind.. honestly, wtf?!
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How come their players are twice as fast as ours.
Well trained, well disciplined and motivated as opposed to our lot who look in the main like this game got in the way of them hitting the sales.
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Defeats like this remind me of the good old Lambert days.
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Lansbury just doesn't care does he?
These games are to give players some game time, and also see if anyone has any guts to fight for a place.
If we lose it, oh well. Kodjia got a goal, so thats a plus.
Well he got an assist.
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FA Cup is a massively important competition and hopefully we will win it again some day, in my lifetime please Villa.
However this year was never going to be that year, and as much as I hate myself for saying it, I'm not sorry we're out. We've just been decimated by big injuries and we have important business to do just to stay afloat in the PL.
Semi-final of the League Cup is good enough for me and hopefully we'll give Foxes more of a fight than we did at VP lately.
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How come their players are twice as fast as ours.
How come they can control a ball first time, pass to a teammate, move, look to receive the ball, press and run intelligently off the ball?
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Great chance for Kodja. Offside anyway due to him ambling back even though we had possession. Must be so tired the poor thing...Fucking annoying.
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Nyland saves it from being 3
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FA Cup is a massively important competition and hopefully we will win it again some day, in my lifetime please Villa.
However this year was never going to be that year, and as much as I hate myself for saying it, I'm not sorry we're out. We've just been decimated by big injuries and we have important business to do just to stay afloat in the PL.
Semi-final of the League Cup is good enough for me and hopefully we'll give Foxes more of a fight than we did at VP lately.
Is exactly how I feel.
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We really do not need this cup run. Always annoying to lose, but strangely not that bothered about this.
Lansbury really needs shipping out in the summer (if possible)
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FA Cup is a massively important competition and hopefully we will win it again some day, in my lifetime please Villa.
However this year was never going to be that year, and as much as I hate myself for saying it, I'm not sorry we're out. We've just been decimated by big injuries and we have important business to do just to stay afloat in the PL.
Semi-final of the League Cup is good enough for me and hopefully we'll give Foxes more of a right than we did at VP lately.
My thoughts exactly, we have a lot more to be focused on than this, the only thing that would have worked well for us today in winning is this being useful to getting back to winning ways, useful in that sense.
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Christ we are absolutely hopeless.
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We always say this about the cup when we lose meekly to lower league opposition near enough every season.
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FT
Flum 2-1 AVFC
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That's that then.
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Reading this and the thread about the shirts with a fucked crest in the club shop.
It’s born of the same attitude ie not giving a fuck.
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Defeats like this remind me of the good old Lambert days.
I was thinking more Steve Bruce. Either way, tactically inept.
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FA Cup is a massively important competition and hopefully we will win it again some day, in my lifetime please Villa.
However this year was never going to be that year, and as much as I hate myself for saying it, I'm not sorry we're out. We've just been decimated by big injuries and we have important business to do just to stay afloat in the PL.
Semi-final of the League Cup is good enough for me and hopefully we'll give Foxes more of a fight than we did at VP lately.
Is exactly how I feel.
Me too
Not arsed at all by today
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FA Cup is a massively important competition and hopefully we will win it again some day, in my lifetime please Villa.
However this year was never going to be that year, and as much as I hate myself for saying it, I'm not sorry we're out. We've just been decimated by big injuries and we have important business to do just to stay afloat in the PL.
Semi-final of the League Cup is good enough for me and hopefully we'll give Foxes more of a fight than we did at VP lately.
Is exactly how I feel.
Me too
Not arsed at all by today
The distinct lack of effort from the vast majority of players is massively alarming and makes me very arsed!
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We really do not need this cup run. Always annoying to lose, but strangely not that bothered about this.
Lansbury really needs shipping out in the summer (if possible)
Why wait so long?