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Title: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 18, 2019, 07:47:36 PM
We will start to turn our season around Saturday

3-1 McGinn, Wes, AEG

Late David Armstrong goal for them
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Legion on December 18, 2019, 08:02:10 PM
D 1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Legion on December 18, 2019, 08:04:36 PM
Heaton
Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Targett
Hourihane
McGinn
Grealish
El Ghazi
Luiz
Wesley
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Legion on December 18, 2019, 08:06:26 PM
Nyland
Konsa
Kodjia
Lansbury
Trezeguet
Chester
Nakamba
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: john e on December 18, 2019, 08:08:27 PM
Heaton
Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Targett
Hourihane
McGinn
Grealish
El Ghazi
Luiz
Wesley

That’s what I’d go with as well
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 18, 2019, 08:30:25 PM
This really needs to be a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Nev on December 18, 2019, 08:41:44 PM
Last night will help on Saturday. I would've been dreading it but a win, whoever it's against works wonders and I think we will see a positive atmosphere.

2-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 18, 2019, 08:48:42 PM
Villa being shit at Christmas is as traditional as turkey and hangovers.

Agonising 1-2 and everyone miserable over the festive period, as usual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2019, 09:24:21 PM
Us 4 Them 0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 18, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Can see this being a frustrating 90 minutes where we have a couple of big chances in a nervy game but have to settle for a 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: olaftab on December 18, 2019, 09:34:48 PM
We will start to turn our season around Saturday

3-1 McGinn, Wes, AEG

Late David Armstrong goal for them
Yes but what about Matt Le Tissier sneaking one in?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: eamonn on December 18, 2019, 09:39:02 PM
Villa being shit at Christmas is as traditional as turkey and hangovers.

Agonising 1-2 and everyone miserable over the festive period, as usual.

Didn't that happen before or something similar....a Dean Richards (RIP) header giving Southampton a 1-0 win at a sparsely populated VP, circa 1999 just before Christmas? During one of Gregory's turgid phases if memory recalls.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2019, 09:41:09 PM
Villa being shit at Christmas is as traditional as turkey and hangovers.

Agonising 1-2 and everyone miserable over the festive period, as usual.

Didn't that happen before or something similar....a Dean Richards (RIP) header giving Southampton a 1-0 win at a sparsely populated VP, circa 1999 just before Christmas? During one of Gregory's turgid phases if memory recalls.

November 6th 1999. Richards 84th min, att 26,474
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: olaftab on December 18, 2019, 09:41:33 PM
Us 4 Them 0
Yeah fuck em.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: eamonn on December 18, 2019, 09:49:10 PM
Knew you wouldn't let me down PWS.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: eamonn on December 18, 2019, 09:52:11 PM
Villa being shit at Christmas is as traditional as turkey and hangovers.

Agonising 1-2 and everyone miserable over the festive period, as usual.

Didn't that happen before or something similar....a Dean Richards (RIP) header giving Southampton a 1-0 win at a sparsely populated VP, circa 1999 just before Christmas? During one of Gregory's turgid phases if memory recalls.

November 6th 1999. Richards 84th min, att 26,474

Amazing to think that almost exactly a year earlier we ripped the same opposition apart at their place to go 12 games unbeaten and stay top of the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: CT on December 18, 2019, 09:55:34 PM
A mate of mine who's a saints ST holder reckons they have no chance of keeping a clean sheet.

This is just massive, so 2-1 us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 18, 2019, 10:15:02 PM
Had a look at Southampton's away results and they're not that bad which surprised me.

Two wins at brighton and Sheffield United although they were right at the start of the season. Since then they've narrowly lost at Man. City, should've won at Arsenal and messed up at Newcastle when they were the dominant team.

Don't think they'll be much in it given our mediocre form. 1-1. My gut feeling is Norwich game will suit our strengths better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: phantom limb on December 18, 2019, 10:37:56 PM
They can score but they can’t defend. I don’t think it will be enjoyable but I think we can win this, and we really need to.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 18, 2019, 10:49:20 PM
They can score but they can’t defend. I don’t think it will be enjoyable but I think we can win this, and we really need to.

Yeah they're weak at both ends. If Ings dosen't score no one else really does unless it's a game where we give Ward Prowse 3-4 chances to score a free kick from 25 yards out.

They do draw loads of games 1-1 or lose or win 2-1 so I suspect the scoreline won't be too far from any of those. Unless they sign half the Liverpool team from the other night on emergency loans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: tomd2103 on December 18, 2019, 10:57:36 PM
Heaton
Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Targett
Hourihane
McGinn
Grealish
El Ghazi
Luiz
Wesley

That’s what I’d go with as well

I would swap Nakamba with Luiz, but that would be it.  I wouldn't usually advocate Hourihane starting, but like the a Newcastle game, think these kind of matches at home are where we need his quality in the final third. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: ROBBO on December 19, 2019, 07:33:09 AM
That team will leave Wesley isolated again it hasn't worked so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Ian. on December 19, 2019, 07:38:09 AM
Heaton
Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Targett
Hourihane
McGinn
Grealish
El Ghazi
Luiz
Wesley

That’s what I’d go with as well

I would swap Nakamba with Luiz, but that would be it.  I wouldn't usually advocate Hourihane starting, but like the a Newcastle game, think these kind of matches at home are where we need his quality in the final third. 
I’m always much happier when Hourihane is in the team. I’d maybe swap El Ghazi for Trez as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Demitri_C on December 19, 2019, 08:10:57 AM
Must win for me. Glad grealish engels and mcginn were rested.

I would try two up top for this one and have mcginn in bench if this reported injury is true. Lets give them a real headache by having kodj and wes up front

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: manic-road on December 19, 2019, 08:15:25 AM
Nervy 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 19, 2019, 09:07:02 AM
Villa being shit at Christmas is as traditional as turkey and hangovers.

Agonising 1-2 and everyone miserable over the festive period, as usual.

I can remember this match vividly. We were absolutely terrible that day, really poor and I got told by a steward to calm down when I lost my rag at one point.

Not my finest hour but it hasn't happen since....the steward, I mean.


Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: simon ward 50 on December 19, 2019, 10:04:15 AM
Fantasy festival of football! 1-0 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: kieron on December 19, 2019, 10:16:10 AM
They can score but they can’t defend.

Sounds familiar.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: mamuu on December 19, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
Villa being shit at Christmas is as traditional as turkey and hangovers.

Agonising 1-2 and everyone miserable over the festive period, as usual.

Didn't that happen before or something similar....a Dean Richards (RIP) header giving Southampton a 1-0 win at a sparsely populated VP, circa 1999 just before Christmas? During one of Gregory's turgid phases if memory recalls.

That game put my wife off football forever. She's never forgiven me for that couple of hours (fair play really, it was bloody awful).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Drummond on December 19, 2019, 11:02:36 AM
I'd play with Kodjia and Wesley.

Heaton
Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Targett
Hourihane
McGinn
Grealish
El Ghazi
Luiz
Wesley

That’s what I’d go with as well

I would swap Nakamba with Luiz, but that would be it.  I wouldn't usually advocate Hourihane starting, but like the a Newcastle game, think these kind of matches at home are where we need his quality in the final third. 
I’m always much happier when Hourihane is in the team. I’d maybe swap El Ghazi for Trez as well.

I'd swap Kodjia for El Ghazi.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: postal on December 19, 2019, 11:35:33 AM
I'd play with Kodjia and Wesley.

Heaton
Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Targett
Hourihane
McGinn
Grealish
El Ghazi
Luiz
Wesley

That’s what I’d go with as well

I would swap Nakamba with Luiz, but that would be it.  I wouldn't usually advocate Hourihane starting, but like the a Newcastle game, think these kind of matches at home are where we need his quality in the final third. 
I’m always much happier when Hourihane is in the team. I’d maybe swap El Ghazi for Trez as well.

I'd swap Kodjia for El Ghazi.

That is almost sounding like a Panini sticker album!  ;D

Anyway, 2-1 Villa, we will get a goal either side of half time and then Ings will pop one in at 70min mark for the tradiational "nervy" finish
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: hilts_coolerking on December 19, 2019, 12:45:15 PM
Just.  Fookin.  Win.

Don't care how or by how many. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: TaxDodger on December 19, 2019, 01:01:49 PM
Aston Villa 3-2 Southampton
McGinn 17       Ings 15
El Ghazi 59      Long 65
Wesley 90+6
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Risso on December 19, 2019, 01:03:57 PM
Just.  Fookin.  Win.

Don't care how or by how many. 

I'd like a nice, straightforward 4-0 win please. 2 goals in each half, so I'm not on the verge of a nervous breakdown when it's 1-0 in the 93rd minute.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on December 19, 2019, 01:14:38 PM
Stating the bloody obvious but this is massive isn’t it?

Losing, and dropping into the bottom 3 doesn’t bear thinking about. I’d fear for us psychologically if that happened.

I’ll go for a nervy 2-1 win (with my heart ruling my head slightly).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: GXVilla on December 19, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
I think the part we play as supporters will be crucial in this one. Convey our nerves to the players and we're in trouble!
So hopefully we can make VP a cauldron of noise and drive them on to victory. Come on you Lions!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 19, 2019, 02:38:12 PM
This is also massive for them, I watched the end of thier game last week and they actually looked better than we did at United.
This could get ugly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: AsTallAsLions on December 19, 2019, 02:39:43 PM
As others have said, they're not terrible going forward, but they are shocking at the back.

We we keep things tight, I'd expect a win.

Which means we'll likely bottle it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 19, 2019, 02:42:32 PM
As others have said, they're not terrible going forward, but they are shocking at the back.

We we keep things tight, I'd expect a win.

Which means we'll likely bottle it.
Yeh the keep things tight thing bothers me, how many clean sheets this season?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: VinnieChase84 on December 19, 2019, 02:44:57 PM
They are without that Djenpro bloke
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: AsTallAsLions on December 19, 2019, 02:48:58 PM
As others have said, they're not terrible going forward, but they are shocking at the back.

We we keep things tight, I'd expect a win.

Which means we'll likely bottle it.
Yeh the keep things tight thing bothers me, how many clean sheets this season?

Just two in the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Nelly on December 19, 2019, 03:19:09 PM
I would bring Grealish back into the centre post-haste! Stick Jota in behind Wesley too. Truthfully, if we can just get our early-season midfield energy, we can do well.

I fully expect they will see this as winnable and I suppose it is for them.

3-1 Villa, Wesley, Grealish aaaaand Wesley again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Damo70 on December 19, 2019, 03:28:01 PM
Nervy 2-1 win.


My thoughts exactly. Southampton are pretty poor but they have battled and restored some pride since they were thrashed by Leicester.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: ez on December 19, 2019, 11:36:31 PM
Villa to win 2-0.Grealish and Kodjia with the goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: robbo1874 on December 20, 2019, 01:00:29 AM
Another tough fought draw unfortunately I think. 2-2

Both sides are going to see this as must win, so we’ll both be going all out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: sid1964 on December 20, 2019, 06:48:57 AM
We need to win! 2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Richard E on December 20, 2019, 10:44:33 AM
2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Pete3206 on December 20, 2019, 01:24:05 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: TonyD on December 20, 2019, 03:59:23 PM
We play two up front and we win this.
Play Wes on his own up front and we won’t win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Bad English on December 20, 2019, 05:00:39 PM
3-1. Wesley (2) and Grealish. Hause (og) for them.

Fuck the fuckers!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: BoVillan esq on December 20, 2019, 07:55:34 PM
3-1 Villa. Once we get the first, confidence will grow, The lads will settle down and carry on to the win the match 3-1, this is the first of 3 much needed victories coming up,.......we have to!!.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Steve67 on December 20, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
This is massive isn't it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: OzVilla on December 21, 2019, 12:21:59 AM
Could be a season defining game. Head says 2-2,  heart says 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Des Little on December 21, 2019, 08:24:30 AM
3-0 home win. Merry Christmas to all
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Clampy on December 21, 2019, 08:32:03 AM
I'm not sure whether it's because we scored a few the other night but i fancy us for another good win today. I'd leave McGinn out if he's not properly fit and I'd start Kodjia although I think Smith will go with Wesley again. 4-1 to us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on December 21, 2019, 08:50:02 AM
Come on Villa boys, 3 points please! Let's make this the 1st win in a winning sequence of 3 games over Christmas. Their fans claim they lack physicality and leadership on the pitch and would take a draw. We need to dominate them and win! Tbf we have only lost 1 match to a team in the bottom half of the PL (Bournemouth, when we gifted them 2 goals), so our form against similar placed teams up to 10th has been good, averaging 2 points per game with 4 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss and 2 yet to play (Soton and Watford). Let's make this count and support the lads! UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: auntiesledd on December 21, 2019, 10:32:35 AM
This is massive isn't it?

Aye. It's as massive as a really massive thing. Let's hope our lot can stick in a massive performance then!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: brontebilly on December 21, 2019, 11:16:15 AM
Likely team gents?

Heaton, Guilbert, Engels, Hause, Targett, Luiz Nakamba, Hourihane, McGinn, Grealish, Kodjia
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 21, 2019, 11:26:31 AM
Likely team gents?

Heaton, Guilbert, Engels, Hause, Targett, Luiz Nakamba, Hourihane, McGinn, Grealish, Kodjia
i would but I bet Smith sticks with Wes and SJM in midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Axl Rose on December 21, 2019, 11:54:11 AM
Isn't Mcginn having a rest today?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: brontebilly on December 21, 2019, 12:00:36 PM
Isn't Mcginn having a rest today?

If he is then AEG will start on right surely.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Steve67 on December 21, 2019, 12:26:36 PM
Isn't Mcginn having a rest today?

If he is then AEG will start on right surely.

He should have been rested at Man City and other hardly likely to win games in readiness for giving his all for games like today, Norwich and Watford.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 21, 2019, 12:27:42 PM
Isn't Mcginn having a rest today?

If he is then AEG will start on right surely.

I'd be surprised if SJM is rested today. This game should be made for him.

He was also on the pitch at half-time during the midweek game with Grealish pinging balls to each other. Just didn't strike me as someone about to be or wanting to be out of the firing line.

Here we go for a prediction. Mcginn to start and to score at least once (hides behind sofa with fingers firmly crossed).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Villa Lew on December 21, 2019, 12:31:18 PM
Going 2-1 Villa, Wesley to get the winner!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Scovilla on December 21, 2019, 12:37:37 PM
All I want for Xmas is a Villa win.
Come Villa boys.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: purpletrousers on December 21, 2019, 12:52:02 PM
Selling/giving away if necc my lower Holte L6 if anybody can make it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: john e on December 21, 2019, 01:02:54 PM
Isn't Mcginn having a rest today?

If he is then AEG will start on right surely.

He should have been rested at Man City and other hardly likely to win games in readiness for giving his all for games like today, Norwich and Watford.

How much rest does a young professional footballer need
I would have thought a week is long enough two weeks and your losing match fitness

best way of regaining form is to play your way back to form not sitting around with your feet up
I think this resting stuff when players have had whole weeks between games is one of the biggest myths in modern day football
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Pete3206 on December 21, 2019, 01:07:43 PM
Going 2-1 Villa, Wesley to get the winner!

Nurse!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 21, 2019, 01:19:50 PM
Win by a couple or three, to stay on track for my prediction of when we've played everyone once, we'll be out of the bottom three and not have a negative goal difference.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 21, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
The m6 north from star city was totally blocked due to a multi car pile up when we drove pest an hour or so ago.

Traffic backed up past the m42 junction.

If you’re about to go to the match in that direction, might want to check.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 21, 2019, 01:54:08 PM
The wait to be served in The Barton’s has become more like the bars in the Upper Trinity.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Demitri_C on December 21, 2019, 01:59:34 PM
Hause or konsa at cb with engels thats the biggie
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: Demitri_C on December 21, 2019, 02:03:28 PM

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Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Southampton pre-match thread - Sat 3pm
Post by: manic-road on December 21, 2019, 02:04:42 PM
Our Hause in the middle of defence.
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