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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: alftitimus on October 10, 2019, 10:57:05 PM
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Last week I read on the German football forum about Jose Mourinho.
He'd turned down even an Interview with Lyon (France) and hinted he had 2 offers for the Prem, which is where he was headed regardless.
The speculation from that Bundesliga stuff, spread.
In England, the Mail / Sun / Express etc all focussed on Man Ut and Spurs as Jose's next habitat.
I read one explanation, on a Film Forum FGS, :D
that has a Football Section... that scared me. The logistics was pretty good... scary.
BEFORE OUR BRILLIANT 5 at Norwich... the "Special One" was going to be our next Manager.... it seemed.
Sawiris / Edens 'don't mess around'
Norwich gave them a hiccup, I figure.
Dean may have plsatered pics of Jose all over the Dressing Room at Norwich... I would've ;D
IF WE were the future for Jose's career of Redundancy Golden Payouts......Dean did a Blinder.
Levy at Spurs / Woodchip at Man U, would never EVER give Mouhrhino a bloody contract... which left us.... before the Norwich game
- as the potential employers we are the Richest. which is where Jose goes :'( :'(
We musn't lose again, nor drop points, because I think thet snake is still in the grass
:'(
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The Norwich score is the most accurate thing in that post, and you didn't even get that right.
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FFS, one idiot in Vill I An flounces off, then we get Alf back. It’s like a tag team of stupid posts.
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AND... you are at US now.... No more fibbing and lying.I welcome you, and will be watching your culture. You are with the Big Boys now....
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Nurse!
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Wait and See..... :D
I would LOVE for Jose to go to Spurs... he ain't going to Watford or Southampton is he.... he will go where his P45 has the Greatest Return.
That is US !
All I'm saying is that WE were his "One-Of-Two" options.
It may be hard to recognise, but we are the ideal victim for a Predator for a Shark like Jose..... OK :)
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What is the purpose of this nonsense?
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You're a fucking idiot. Goodbye. You won't be missed.
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I wasn't aware we were looking for a new manager. I thought that bloke who took us up last season from a mid table position was doing all right. I suppose we could just forget all the money we gave him in the summer transfer market and spend a load more on sacking him, appointing Mourinho and then giving Mourinho about fifty million quid in January, which he would spend one defender.
No way Jose.
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What does plsatered mean please? Familiar is not this word to me.
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What does plsatered mean please? Familiar is not this word to me.
I think it means adding one number to another to bigger it.
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Well it is mushroom season. So I’m told
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The least connected to reality of any post in H&V history.
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
I agree. There have been a few daft sods of late but that's the internet for you. What's the desired goal in chasing away anyone who's a bit different - an echo chamber?
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
I agree. There have been a few daft sods of late but that's the internet for you. What's the desired goal in chasing away anyone who's a bit different - an echo chamber?
Nobody's chasing anybody away. People can post what they want, and people can post in response to that.
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The least connected to reality of any post in H&V history.
Apart from one that said “Blues will win this one at Villa Park” a couple of years ago.
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
I agree. There have been a few daft sods of late but that's the internet for you. What's the desired goal in chasing away anyone who's a bit different - an echo chamber?
Nobody's chasing anybody away. People can post what they want, and people can post in response to that.
I mostly agree, in particular, if you're going to post criticism of players or managers you're going to have people disagree with you and sometimes, if the opinion you post is particularly extreme, that might feel like a dog pile as lots of people respond to you. No one chased skillz off but a lot of people found some of his posts about Wesley to be completely unfair and called him out on it. You're much more likely to get an echo chamber if people feel they can't disagree for fear of upsetting someone.
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The OP finds a link to Mourinho on a football board in an off topic section of a film website and panics.
I hope no-one ever posts anything vaguely ITK in our film thread. That could break the internet.
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
I agree. There have been a few daft sods of late but that's the internet for you. What's the desired goal in chasing away anyone who's a bit different - an echo chamber?
Nobody's chasing anybody away. People can post what they want, and people can post in response to that.
I mostly agree, in particular, if you're going to post criticism of players or managers you're going to have people disagree with you and sometimes, if the opinion you post is particularly extreme, that might feel like a dog pile as lots of people respond to you. No one chased skillz off but a lot of people found some of his posts about Wesley to be completely unfair and called him out on it. You're much more likely to get an echo chamber if people feel they can't disagree for fear of upsetting someone.
Being vaguely respectful of another person's right to an opinion doesn't necessarily equate to agreeing. You can disagree with someone - even strongly so - without resorting to "haha look at this guy over here who doesn't toe the line, what a div" or some such variation. Not that I think you do that personally, but there's a tendency on here for people to come circling when they smell blood in the water.
Also, equally, people can choose not to comment - as eamonn has said, there's really no need to always have a go. It tends to be the same people again and again, which tells me more about them than the various people they're piling on.
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The only thing I agree with in his statement is that our owners are not here to waste there money, if Dean does not deliver the right results, then we will have new manager.
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Just when I think I've had my money's worth from this gear, it gives again.
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Being vaguely respectful of another person's right to an opinion doesn't necessarily equate to agreeing. You can disagree with someone - even strongly so - without resorting to "haha look at this guy over here who doesn't toe the line, what a div" or some such variation. Not that I think you do that personally, but there's a tendency on here for people to come circling when they smell blood in the water.
Also, equally, people can choose not to comment - as eamonn has said, there's really no need to always have a go. It tends to be the same people again and again, which tells me more about them than the various people they're piling on.
Respect for someone's right to an opinion and respect for that opinion aren't the same thing and I think the vast majority of comments slagging posts off are due to the latter. Personally I can't ever respect an opinion which thinks calling Wesley 'hop-along' is ok and, for me, that's where everything with him this time started. I'd tried to ignore it and just not post but when he spent a week slagging our player off and tried to pass it off as fair criticism I felt he needed to be called out for it, not because of who he is but because of what he was posting.
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I actually wouldn't say it's beyond the realms of possibility to be fair should Smith be struggling in say a month or two.
Mourinho's best friend in football (possibly only friend) John Terry is already in place as assistant remember.
Jose will go after the job where the biggest pot of gold is and most unlimited potential, that's what he does. Other than managing one of the big 6 or us I can't see him anywhere else in the Premiership, can you really see him taking even the Everton job say? I can't.
Our owners will do whatever it takes and make as many cut throat decisions necessary to get us competing at the very top with the amount of money they are throwing at it of that I have no doubt.
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Now that’s a proper leap - wonder if my favourite flat earth website will back that up - must take a look.
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I think Deano would have to have a complete 'mare and us be adrift before the owners would consider a change, and even then, I can't see that Mourinho would be the sort off bloke they'd turn to. I reckon they'd move heaven and earth to try to get somebody like Eddie Howe.
All largely irrelevant though, as we're going to be fine this year.
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
Skillzzz is a patronising arse.
Which, along with the babelfish interpretation of whatever Sky Sports are running at the moment, gets a bit much.
Alf on the other hand looks like he's been on the magic mushrooms. Would keep.
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I think the connections between Purslow, Mourinho and John Terry lend themselves to some lazy journalism during an International break.
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I think the connections between Purslow, Mourinho and John Terry lend themselves to some lazy journalism during an International break.
That has to be the most tenuous use of the word journalism ever!
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This hasn't even come from lazy journalists filling column inches, it's just a random forum member somewhere with nothing else to talk about.
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If Dean doesn’t do well (which he has so far) he will get the sack, and at some point in the future he won’t be Villa manager. Who comes next is anyone’s guess. If the board are looking at all outcomes, good on them. Didn’t want to post on this thread as it’s a bit silly.
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For what it’s worth my guess at the 2 clubs would be Spurs or Everton. I don’t care either way but I’m pretty certain it wouldn’t be us thank god
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If ever a thread deserved to be locked, on the basis of being the most pointless thread since the birth of internet forums, it must be this one.
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as if !!
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silly billy thread
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silly billy thread
https://www.youtube.com>watch
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Not going to comment on the whole thing but criticising (or supporting) how you think about the club is surely the point of a forum. Sharing opinions and thoughts to be debated is what we're all here for. How you write is less open for debate but if it makes your opinion unclear then it may be commented on.
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Apologies if my posts offended anyone, just thought it was a silly thread but there you go
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Fuck me I thought you were taking a break?
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Please don't quote those posts! My eyes!
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
I agree. There have been a few daft sods of late but that's the internet for you. What's the desired goal in chasing away anyone who's a bit different - an echo chamber?
Nobody's chasing anybody away. People can post what they want, and people can post in response to that.
I mostly agree, in particular, if you're going to post criticism of players or managers you're going to have people disagree with you and sometimes, if the opinion you post is particularly extreme, that might feel like a dog pile as lots of people respond to you. No one chased skillz off but a lot of people found some of his posts about Wesley to be completely unfair and called him out on it. You're much more likely to get an echo chamber if people feel they can't disagree for fear of upsetting someone.
Being vaguely respectful of another person's right to an opinion doesn't necessarily equate to agreeing. You can disagree with someone - even strongly so - without resorting to "haha look at this guy over here who doesn't toe the line, what a div" or some such variation. Not that I think you do that personally, but there's a tendency on here for people to come circling when they smell blood in the water.
Also, equally, people can choose not to comment - as eamonn has said, there's really no need to always have a go. It tends to be the same people again and again, which tells me more about them than the various people they're piling on.
Didn’t you once flounce off because people were being nasty to Nigel Reo-Coker?
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Can we just pretend this thread never started please? Lock and delete., eventually we’ll forget it ever existed.
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It is a pretty bollocks thread.
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Is it beyond the realms of possibility that some of the posters on this site are not ‘from round here’ or maybe English is not be their first language.
They are not spouting racist bollox like some of our local posters. They are not being disrespectful or antagonistic.
They are just posting their thoughts about football and our club.
But, there are some on here who are like fucking bullies, picking on posters who they thinks are ‘not as smart as them’ or who post in way that that they don’t like.
Fucking hell, lighten up, save your wrath for the real ****** who post mainly in off topic.
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
I agree. There have been a few daft sods of late but that's the internet for you. What's the desired goal in chasing away anyone who's a bit different - an echo chamber?
Nobody's chasing anybody away. People can post what they want, and people can post in response to that.
I mostly agree, in particular, if you're going to post criticism of players or managers you're going to have people disagree with you and sometimes, if the opinion you post is particularly extreme, that might feel like a dog pile as lots of people respond to you. No one chased skillz off but a lot of people found some of his posts about Wesley to be completely unfair and called him out on it. You're much more likely to get an echo chamber if people feel they can't disagree for fear of upsetting someone.
Being vaguely respectful of another person's right to an opinion doesn't necessarily equate to agreeing. You can disagree with someone - even strongly so - without resorting to "haha look at this guy over here who doesn't toe the line, what a div" or some such variation. Not that I think you do that personally, but there's a tendency on here for people to come circling when they smell blood in the water.
Also, equally, people can choose not to comment - as eamonn has said, there's really no need to always have a go. It tends to be the same people again and again, which tells me more about them than the various people they're piling on.
Didn’t you once flounce off because people were being nasty to Nigel Reo-Coker?
Did I hold a different opinion to that of other posters? Yes, I'm sure I did.
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Is it beyond the realms of possibility that some of the posters on this site are not ‘from round here’ or maybe English is not be their first language.
They are not spouting racist bollox like some of our local posters. They are not being disrespectful or antagonistic.
They are just posting their thoughts about football and our club.
But, there are some on here who are like fucking bullies, picking on posters who they thinks are ‘not as smart as them’ or who post in way that that they don’t like.
Fucking hell, lighten up, save your wrath for the real c***s who post mainly in off topic.
Yeh let’s attack people that disagree about other stuff.
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Last week I read on the German football forum about Jose Mourinho.
He'd turned down even an Interview with Lyon (France) and hinted he had 2 offers for the Prem, which is where he was headed regardless.
The speculation from that Bundesliga stuff, spread.
In England, the Mail / Sun / Express etc all focussed on Man Ut and Spurs as Jose's next habitat.
I read one explanation, on a Film Forum FGS, :D
that has a Football Section... that scared me. The logistics was pretty good... scary.
BEFORE OUR BRILLIANT 5 at Norwich... the "Special One" was going to be our next Manager.... it seemed.
Sawiris / Edens 'don't mess around'
Norwich gave them a hiccup, I figure.
Dean may have plsatered pics of Jose all over the Dressing Room at Norwich... I would've ;D
IF WE were the future for Jose's career of Redundancy Golden Payouts......Dean did a Blinder.
Levy at Spurs / Woodchip at Man U, would never EVER give Mouhrhino a bloody contract... which left us.... before the Norwich game
- as the potential employers we are the Richest. which is where Jose goes :'( :'(
We musn't lose again, nor drop points, because I think thet snake is still in the grass
:'(
Sorry mate your putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5. If Jose is planning a return to the Prem theres probably 15 clubs who could be in the running. Theres nothing to suggest that he could be heading to B6. Wild speculation. I'd like to think that Dean & the club share a vision. Everything we've heard from them points to this. Absolutely nothing points to them changing the manager. He is loved by the vast majority of our sensible fanbase, including myself. This thread you've started is pure tittle tattle and idle speculation. Obviously you are entitled to your opinion and so am i. Mine is i think this is shit stirring of the highest order.
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Well not just the fact that this is not true but I thought the new model was that if we was to replace the manager it would be for a like minded version so the players and staff remain and not change to someone who is poles apart in the way we are set up to play?
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Last week I read on the German football forum about Jose Mourinho.
He'd turned down even an Interview with Lyon (France) and hinted he had 2 offers for the Prem, which is where he was headed regardless.
The speculation from that Bundesliga stuff, spread.
In England, the Mail / Sun / Express etc all focussed on Man Ut and Spurs as Jose's next habitat.
I read one explanation, on a Film Forum FGS, :D
that has a Football Section... that scared me. The logistics was pretty good... scary.
BEFORE OUR BRILLIANT 5 at Norwich... the "Special One" was going to be our next Manager.... it seemed.
Sawiris / Edens 'don't mess around'
Norwich gave them a hiccup, I figure.
Dean may have plsatered pics of Jose all over the Dressing Room at Norwich... I would've ;D
IF WE were the future for Jose's career of Redundancy Golden Payouts......Dean did a Blinder.
Levy at Spurs / Woodchip at Man U, would never EVER give Mouhrhino a bloody contract... which left us.... before the Norwich game
- as the potential employers we are the Richest. which is where Jose goes :'( :'(
We musn't lose again, nor drop points, because I think thet snake is still in the grass
:'(
Snake is still in the grass? Troll off please.
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Nothing to add. Just wanted to get in on the action before the lock.
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Everyone has blown this out of proportion. The special one is happy and too busy making adverts with paddy power to come here.......seriously cringeworthy advert though.
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I am surprised nobody on here knows an estate agent in Sutton Coldfield who has been showing Jose around houses in the area. I remember back in the day that is how we knew Paul Ince, Steve Bull and Carlton Palmer were all signing for us.
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I am surprised nobody on here knows an estate agent in Sutton Coldfield who has been showing Jose around houses in the area. I remember back in the day that is how we knew Paul Ince, Steve Bull and Carlton Palmer were all signing for us.
Crickey, I remember the Steve Bull one. They were keeping it quiet so the Wolves fans bought their season tickets. Then we would buy him.
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I'm not sure that a few people telling certain posters who repeatedly post things that are inflammatory or widely regarded as nonsense to shut the fuck up is too much different to real life. If we were all regulars down the local pub and a couple of people came in every night pissed up and making a fucking nuisance of themselves then i'm sure people would say it to their face. I'm not sure it equates to bullying, if someone is being targetted for no reason or for reasons outside of their control such as height, weight, sex, sexual orientation, race etc then it's totally unacceptable but i see this as a direct reaction to someone acting up in an attention seeking way. Well, if you try to get peoples attention by acting like a twat i'm afraid you're going to get the wrong sort of attention.
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Has skillz been bullied off again? I don't get why people get so indignant by harmless if unorthodox posters. Just scroll on by...
This. Why be so Stalinist about it? He’s funny.
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I don't think anyone is being over vicious to alftitmus or posters of similar ilk. I do like their left field approach however when you do that you leave yourself open to more robust replies than it is normal. So live by the sword....
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Titus is a Troll. Skillz is Skillz a delicate flower.