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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 03:30:46 PM
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What's up with Doug ?
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I was hoping for Douglas Luiz and Nakamba... but Douglas hasn’t even made the bench today!
Oh well... at least Trezeguet is back!
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No Douglas Luiz at all. Injured?
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I think that was the team to be expected. Where on earth is Targett though, and possibly more importantly, Luiz?
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Douglas injured?
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Poor Conor.
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Very underwhelmed.
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Lose 4-1.
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Hmmmm
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I was hoping for Douglas Luiz and Nakamba...
A missed opportunity, unless Doug is injured.
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Surprised not to see Luiz. Is Targett still injured?
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Very underwhelmed.
Some formation again it seems, not impressed either.
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I think that was the team to be expected. Where on earth is Targett though, and possibly more importantly, Luiz?
Coming back from a hamstring injury takes a while.
Interestingly from being out of the premiership for 3 years I hardly recognise most of the arse team
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No Doug at all?
Anyway their frontline scares the piss out of me. Defeat I think sadly.
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Not sure I’d have played two wingers against Arsenal away.
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Let’s hope for the best, and I hope I am wrong, but don’t think we are good enough to play 4-3-3. Personally 4-2-3-1, but what do I know!
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Wonder what's up with Doug. Thought Targett might have made this one. Looking at their attacking options think I might watch from behind the settee. Come on Villa - make me eat my words
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Not sure I’d have played two wingers against Arsenal away.
Arsenal are very suspect at the back. If there is a team where this actually might work it’s against them. The midfield however has to collectively work together to win and keep the ball and get up close with Wesley. Otherwise it’s going to be a long afternoon.
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Not sure I’d have played two wingers against Arsenal away.
Arsenal are very suspect at the back.
Yeah, except when they play us.
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An even longer afternoon and evening for me as I now have to switch off all electronic devices, refuse any carrier pigeons and owls that ring the doorbell, wait for 7.45pm then watch the game on TV hoping they don't mention the score when presenting the game (I'm having €50 on the wankers on RMC Sports do this).
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same formation i imagine-- the wingers need to earn their corn--cant see us scoring from corners nor free kicks---hope i,m wrong.
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Not sure I’d have played two wingers against Arsenal away.
Arsenal are very suspect at the back.
Yeah, except when they play us.
They will be suspect at the back all game against us. What we need to do is find a way to expose those weaknesses.
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I was hoping for Douglas Luiz and Nakamba...
A missed opportunity, unless Doug is injured.
Why is it a missed opportunity?
It’s only on here and Twitter where there has been a push for us to play 2 DMs. Smith has never given any indication that he wants to change the way we play. He has faith in his philosophy and it’s served him (and us) pretty well so far
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Would have preferred an extra body in midfield as I think we can get at their midfield and over run them.
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Would have preferred an extra body in midfield as I think we can get at their midfield and over run them.
Yes, 12 players would give us a slight advantage.
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Streams are readily available chaps 8)
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I was hoping for Douglas Luiz and Nakamba...
A missed opportunity, unless Doug is injured.
Why is it a missed opportunity?
It’s only on here and Twitter where there has been a push for us to play 2 DMs. Smith has never given any indication that he wants to change the way we play. He has faith in his philosophy and it’s served him (and us) pretty well so far
A shape, or personnel in a shape, isn't a philosophy. If he wants us to play on the front foot he might consider looking at being more physical and getting more aggressive at the transitions.
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Weird obsession some of our fans have with the genitals of some of our black players.
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I think we're suspect down the left. El G and Taylor don't fill me with optimism. If we come away with a draw i'll be well happy. C'mon you Villa boys. Just noticed Wolves done what we should have if it wasn't for that fucking twat K.Friend. They equalised on 90+5.
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There has never been any indication that he will change the formation.
He is a 4 3 3 Manager, we better get used to it.
I don’t see why he does not play Jack instead of one of the wingers though.
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Smith has never given any indication that he wants to change the way we play. He has faith in his philosophy and it’s served him (and us) pretty well so far
His stubbornness to change is my biggest concern. I love his philosophy of all out attack but when it's not giving points you have to question his decision. The old chestnut about first you have to win the midfield doesn't seem to register with Dean. I fear it's going to be a very long afternoon.
I'll be watching El Ghazi closely today. Until now all I've seen him do is pass the ball back to Taylor. It's like playing with 10 men. Obviously Dean sees something I don't.
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Hoping no slaughter
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The front three have really got to up their game, starting with today.
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It said in the preview on BBC that Targett was fit now, seemingly he still can't get a look in, if he's good enough to justify an £11-14m fee, we need to be using him. Not sure what's happened to Luiz to not be in the 18. Tough choice which one to drop out of AEG or Jota.
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Why can’t I get this in the USA ?
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We’ll lose I suspect.
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It said in the preview on BBC that Targett was fit now, seemingly he still can't get a look in, if he's good enough to justify an £11-14m fee, we need to be using him. Not sure what's happened to Luiz to not be in the 18. Tough choice which one to drop out of AEG or Jota.
Based on Monday's match, the answer perhaps should have been "both".
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Weird obsession some of our fans have with the genitals of some of our black players.
Morons aren't they.
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Would have preferred an extra body in midfield as I think we can get at their midfield and over run them.
Yes, 12 players would give us a slight advantage.
Do the refs do a headcount before kick off still?
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It said in the preview on BBC that Targett was fit now, seemingly he still can't get a look in, if he's good enough to justify an £11-14m fee, we need to be using him. Not sure what's happened to Luiz to not be in the 18. Tough choice which one to drop out of AEG or Jota.
Based on Monday's match, the answer perhaps should have been "both".
Could quite easily have done. Would have meant a change of system I think with Luiz or Hourihane coming in though.
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This may be a chastening afternoon if we can’t get hold of the ball in midfield. Would prefer us to match up with Arsenal as I think we will be outnumbered with just the three. They are a bigger threat through the middle than out wide, but we’ll see.
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If ever there was a match to get Grealish forward it's this one. With Luiz at the back for them, Jack could be drawing fouls left, right and centre.
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It said in the preview on BBC that Targett was fit now, seemingly he still can't get a look in, if he's good enough to justify an £11-14m fee, we need to be using him. Not sure what's happened to Luiz to not be in the 18. Tough choice which one to drop out of AEG or Jota.
I'm sure Targett is just not fit enough.
Weird about Luiz, I can only think he's been carrying a injury.
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hmmm Hesgoal are pushing it a bit fine today :/
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I'd really appreciate a pm on where I can watch this online for free please.
#
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Streams are readily available chaps 8)
Sharing is caring ;o) Any chance of a PM pls mate
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Streams are readily available chaps 8)
Sharing is caring ;o) Any chance of a PM pls mate
And me please
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same here :)
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I'd really appreciate a pm on where I can watch this online for free please.
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Pm sent
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Streams are readily available chaps 8)
Sharing is caring ;o) Any chance of a PM pls mate
And me please
Me too please
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Christ, how much space did he have in our area then?
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#metoo😀
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Good counter. Good chance
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see warszaw post at top of this page.
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Christ, how much space did he have in our area then?
AEG didn't track run
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I don't want a stream. Many thanks.
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Good run from Trez.
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I was hoping for Douglas Luiz and Nakamba...
A missed opportunity, unless Doug is injured.
Why is it a missed opportunity?
It’s only on here and Twitter where there has been a push for us to play 2 DMs. Smith has never given any indication that he wants to change the way we play. He has faith in his philosophy and it’s served him (and us) pretty well so far
Simply because we should develop flexibility in the use of available resources. Because we need thi find a way of getting Grealish and McGinn further up the pitch. Because our midfield needs to be stronger.
I think that the Premier league requires us to be adaptable
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I don't want a stream. Many thanks.
Nor me...
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Me please
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Please
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Streams are readily available chaps 8)
Er... me too?
Sharing is caring ;o) Any chance of a PM pls mate
And me please
Me too please
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i don't fancy a stream either chaps
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Very open so far.
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I’m watching a tiny stream was that trezeguet with that crazy run and set up SJM?
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I’m watching a tiny stream was that trezeguet with that crazy run and set up SJM?
Yep.
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hmmm Hesgoal are pushing it a bit fine today :/
Its there now.
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Very open so far.
Hope it stays like this it suits us.
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We've started pretty well
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I’m watching a tiny stream was that trezeguet with that crazy run and set up SJM?
Yep.
Cheers great run from him. Looks v up for it.
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Bloody hell Jack, crap ball that.
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Good save from SJM shot
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Corner!
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Very open so far.
Hope it stays like this it suits us.
hmmm Hesgoal are pushing it a bit fine today :/
Its there now.
Yeah got it
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Streams are readily available chaps 8)
Sharing is caring ;o) Any chance of a PM pls mate
And me please
Me too please
and me please
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Streams are readily available chaps 8)
Sharing is caring ;o) Any chance of a PM pls mate
And me please
Me too please
and me please
mee three please mate :)
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PM for a link would be much appreciated. Thanks
Anyone got the link? Thanks :)
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Just use the site that's been posted, bookmark that site and use it for future games as well :)
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What a player Mings is.
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All my usual streams are showing Liverpool/Chelsea even though they're saying Arsenal/Villa. Radio WM for me
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Bit of a let off
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Dazn, whatever that is, showing the game
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What a player Mings is.
👏👏👏👏
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Phew.
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Has Wesley touched the ball yet?
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Has Wesley touched the ball yet?
Give him chance - got 79 on fifa
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Arsenal starting to get on top a bit
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Has Wesley touched the ball yet?
Yes I distinctly spotted him missing both sets of goals during the warm up.
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I don't like the fact that Dean Smith, an ardent proponent of possession football has us playing so much on the counter. I don't understand why we have adopted this approach because we drop deeper and deeper. It's just asking for trouble.
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All my usual streams are showing Liverpool/Chelsea even though they're saying Arsenal/Villa. Radio WM for me
See pm
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Fucking hell Jack. What IS going on with his passing?
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Grealish been good tracking but passing been shit
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Arsenal appear to have not one, but two Sideshow Bobs.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Mcginn!!!!
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SJM
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GGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLL. SJM
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McGinn!!!!!!!!
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I don't like the fact that Dean Smith, an ardent proponent of possession football has us playing so much on the counter. I don't understand why we have adopted this approach because we drop deeper and deeper. It's just asking for trouble.
We are not playing Rotherham or Bolton anymore. Anyway 0-1.
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Yay!
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Goooooaaalllllll!
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Get in lovely. Now 3 more and I might have some confidence.
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SJMMMMMMM!
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Yesssss
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Super Fucking John McGinn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fook me, El Ghazi crossed a ball. Great goal.
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I don't like the fact that Dean Smith, an ardent proponent of possession football has us playing so much on the counter. I don't understand why we have adopted this approach because we drop deeper and deeper. It's just asking for trouble.
We are not playing Rotherham or Bolton anymore. Anyway 0-1.
It's attitude and tactics. I'm delighted we are leading. But I still want us to keep the ball more as the game goes on.
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Arsenal and their fans rattled, put 'em to the sword Villa!
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The Gooner library is a bit quiet
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Make a run, Wesley you useless lump.
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Arsenal fans are right whinebags. Remember that Tarquin poster on here years back?
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Get the fuck in!
My stream's a bit shit, so I can't tell which of the Sideshow Bobs totally lost McGinn there.
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Chance for a second
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What a player... our star. Manlove
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Trez putting a great cross in. Begging to be tapped in.
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Now I'm even more nervous!
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Again, use the site that's already been posted.
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Arsenal go close but over the top
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Phew
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Dear Ref,
Please blow the fucking full time whistle now.
Kind Regards
CWG
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Problem is Arsenal carry so much threat going forward. They’re very likely to score, we need a few.
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PM for a link would be much appreciated. Thanks
Anyone got the link? Thanks :)
Anyone?
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Get the fuck in!
My stream's a bit shit, so I can't tell which of the Sideshow Bobs totally lost McGinn there.
Ghendouzi failed to track run.
With the exception of our two centre backs we looked really poor up to then. Grealish a waste of a shirt at the moment unfortunately
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PM for a link would be much appreciated. Thanks
Anyone got the link? Thanks :)
Anyone?
Just use the site that's been mentioned on this thread.
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Too much Arsenal possession, now a corner.
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This is it, we can’t sit back too much against them.
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Defence is doing well but we need to keep an attacking presence here.
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Wes with a weak shot
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We need to keep the ball for a bit, or it'll go the way of the Spurs game.
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PM for a link would be much appreciated. Thanks
Anyone got the link? Thanks :)
Anyone?
Just use the site that's been mentioned on this thread.
I'm obviously blind as a bat. What site is that?
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hesgoal
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Wesley is absolute shite.
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We need to keep the ball for a bit, or it'll go the way of the Spurs game.
Yep exactly.
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Xhaka Khan booked
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Wesley is absolute shite.
Be patient... please.. he will score
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Yellow against Jack
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hesgoal
Cheers :)
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Xhaka booked for a foul on Grealish.
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Wesley. A bit like Heskey, but without the goal threat.
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Mings misses a chance but it was offside anyway.
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Though offside Mings should at least have hit the target
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Wesley. A bit like Heskey, but without the goal threat.
Hesley then.
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OOh Mings. Ah, offside anyway.
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What a chance!
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Mings should have buried that.
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Maitland Niles could be off
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Niles sent off
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...or Whiskey
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Ref still hasn't shown the second yellow yet
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Is he off or not?
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Get him sent off you twat.
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Wesley. A bit like Heskey, but without the goal threat.
Hesley then.
Usless fact. Hæslig in Danish (pronounced almost Hesley) means hideous.
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Card is still in his hand but not shown yet, he's now talking to an assistant
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Now he's off!
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Pretending to be injured as if that's going g to save him.
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What the fuck is he doing?
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He's off.
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Definitely off no chance of VAR?
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gotta be a booking for that so 2 yellows and off he goes. It's definitely a worse tackle than the one Trez got a 2nd yellow for.
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Poor fucking Arsenal.
Can we please now take the game to them Villa
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Right we need to win this game now.
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Definitely off no chance of VAR?
not for a second yellow
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Red card.
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Interesting.
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Definitely off no chance of VAR?
Second yellow so no chance, game is continuing
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And the Oscar goes to.......
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Definitely off no chance of VAR?
VAR have said not a red but he's going to get a second yellow. Long time feigning injury
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Don’t be shite against 10 men again please Villa.
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Now he's off!
I took a Delorean a minute or so forward to confirm that. I don’t have any banana skins though to get myself back. Fuck
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Gotta do better than we did against 10 on Monday. UTV
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I'm sure there was a stat that it something like only Man City and Manure have won at the Emirates more often than us. And Arsenal of course.
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Fuck off you cheating Arsenal bastard. Threw a punch at Wesley also in the middle of that.
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Arsenal trying to get a player sent off, cheats
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That first touch from Grealish was sexy as fuck.
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Cheating fucker
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Attack them and try for a second goal pretty please, Villa.
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Sokratis. Dear me.
If we play with our heads second half we'll win this.
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Nice to see after 3 years away that Arsenal are still a shower of absolute fannies.
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And the Oscar goes to.......
The twat trying to get Wesly sent off.
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Gotta do better than we did against 10 on Monday. UTV
They will have learnt from Monday, but also can Wesley, try a bit harder?
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VAR is shit why didn’t their defender go for simulation? I hate VAR
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You fucking cheating prick, Arsenal player I've never seen in my life.
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Gotta do better than we did against 10 on Monday. UTV
They will have learnt from Monday, but also can Wesley, try a bit harder?
Waste of space.
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El Ghazi dropped a bollock there. Had the Arse wide open then.
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Glad Mr friend isn't in charge
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Good reffing tbf.
Arse losing their heads here.
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I'm sure there was a stat that it something like only Man City and Manure have won at the Emirates more often than us. And Arsenal of course.
Chelsea and manyoo, four apiece to our three.
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Someone needs to get in the ear if Wesley and tell him to keep his head because he’s in theirs. That back line for Arsenal won’t like him attacking them physically.
Ps - Bjorn Engels is genuinely a wonderful footballer
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Fucking hell El Ghazi. Get your head up lad!
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Wesley needs to be careful - as the Arsenal player tried to give him a blowjob Wesley flung an arm at him
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Good reffing tbf.
Arse losing their heads here.
Actually yes... been fair
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Not bad with 10 men each, Wesley should be subbed
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HT
Arsenal fans chanting
BOOOOOOOO unai
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Keep your fucking head Wesley.
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Fucking Mings is brilliant
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
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Fucking Mings is brilliant
He's a wonderful footballer.
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Good half, we were well in it even without the sending off. No excuse not to go and get on all three points, they'll find it hard to dominate us like Spurs did second half.
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
I think he's been excellent, working his nuts off for the team in both defence and attack.
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Keep your fucking head Wesley.
He didnt lose it ffs
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Think I’m gonna cash out.
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
Really? Thought he worked hard
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Trezeguet absolutely outstanding, Wesley is really pissing me off. That guy is a biggest weak link in this team by miles.
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Fucking Mings is brilliant
He's a wonderful footballer.
With both Mings and McGinn in my Fantasy team, I was almost dancing down the road naked when he headed that ball towards goal! :D
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
I think he's been excellent, working his nuts off for the team in both defence and attack.
That's what I mean, lots of good stuff, but then loses it a few times when we're attacking.
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Did I miss something (apologies if this has been answered elsewhere) but aren't we supposed to be in that 3rd kit today? or am I thinking of the Manchester City game?
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
I think he's been excellent, working his nuts off for the team in both defence and attack.
Yep 100% agreed. Worked hard, brought more pace to the attack than Jota did, we look really dangerous on the break. Looks to play off Wes well, too.
more of this villa please.
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Did I miss something (apologies if this has been answered elsewhere) but aren't we supposed to be in that 3rd kit today? or am I thinking of the Manchester City game?
Man City
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Take Wesley off and Davis on for me
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
I have no idea what game you're watching but it can't be the same one as the rest of us.
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
Really? Thought he worked hard
Me too, he looks good, he’s done well. They all have to be fair. Superb half.
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Keep your fucking head Wesley.
He didnt lose it ffs
Agreed but you can see a bit of red mist there so he just needs to keep his cool. He's in their heads and he needs to stay positive because they don't like his physical play.
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Why wouldn’t VAR get involved when their defender pretends to be hit? Just asking any VAR experts out there. It’s no good to us if they look at it after and ban (Bamford).
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Up to the giddy heights of 13th as it stands.
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Why wouldn’t VAR get involved when their defender pretends to be hit? Just asking any VAR experts out there. It’s no good to us if they look at it after and ban (Banford).
VAR doesn't look at dives/simulation.
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
I have no idea what game you're watching but it can't be the same one as the rest of us.
I think what he means is he's been a bit hot and cold. The talent is there but he runs into trouble a bit too often and loses the ball. Overall he's been pretty decent.
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At least Trezuguet has shown some fight, Weseley none at all and Al Gazi keeps making poor decisions.
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Up to the giddy heights of 13th as it stands.
You had to didn't you?
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Keep your fucking head Wesley.
He didnt lose it ffs
It’s more a preemptive plea.
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Trezeguet has been very frustrating today.
I have no idea what game you're watching but it can't be the same one as the rest of us.
I think what he means is he's been a bit hot and cold. The talent is there but he runs into trouble a bit too often and loses the ball. Overall he's been pretty decent.
Cheers, indeed, as I later tried to make clear.
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Hope we try and kill them off second half rather than sit back. Golden opportunity to get an away win here.
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Need to be careful to stay away from any flashpoints in the second half. They will clearly try anything to get one of us sent off.
We're doing absolutely fine, but I'm tempted by Davis for Wes too.
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Arse really are there for the taking.
I’ve got to ask though, is Wes offering any more than Hogan did?
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Class finish from SJM. Looks like he tucked it in with the outside of his left boot...
WHAT a bloody good footballer!
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At least Trezuguet has shown some fight, Weseley none at all and Al Gazi keeps making poor decisions.
Apart from the assist for the goal.
AEG is our fastest player so unless he starts to flag I would keep him on for as long as possible. We need to stretch Arsenal in the second half and make the extra man tell, which we failed to do dismally the other night.
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Will they take Xhaka off. He’s a sending off waiting to happen . Fingers crossed he stays on
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We have to try and kill this off.
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Arse really are there for the taking.
I’ve got to ask though, is Wes offering any more than Hogan did?
Possibly even less.
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Absolutely golden opportunity now for 3 points that we must take. Don't give the ref the slightest excuse to even it up, play smartly and keep the ball.
Played some good stuff and countered well even before the sending off. Marvelous, Grealish and SJM doing really nicely in midfield and the Mings/Engels partnership is looking fucking superb.
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
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DAZN (again, whatever that is)
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At least Trezuguet has shown some fight, Weseley none at all and Al Gazi keeps making poor decisions.
AEG put in the cross for the goal
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We really need to play with our heads now. Last twenty minutes on Monday we played liked a schoolboy team clueless charging forward at every chance.
Make sure we don't get involved in any Arsenal scuffle (no one from us has been booked), keep tight shape in centre of pitch and see what we can do on counter attack.
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Jack looks very poor today. Hopefully he can relax and use the space
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Watching that too, very interesting.
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Here's the goal https://twitter.com/avfchistory/status/1175800670399664130
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Arse really are there for the taking.
I’ve got to ask though, is Wes offering any more than Hogan did?
Possibly even less.
At least he ran around a bit.
So what does Dean do now to make the extra man count?
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Need to be careful to stay away from any flashpoints in the second half. They will clearly try anything to get one of us sent off.
We're doing absolutely fine, but I'm tempted by Davis for Wes too.
yeah id agree with that change, Wes has been woeful again and I think Davis can hold the ball up better
Arsenal dont have much legs in midfield so just requires patience on the ball to stretch them, huge opportunity now for 3 points
Grealish has been a huge disappointment
Both our centre back are quality players
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Jack looks very poor today. Hopefully he can relax and use the space
No disagree - he has been no 2 after SJM - but his end passing has been wrong - something that can be fixed. Worked really hard - box to box
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Class finish from SJM. Looks like he tucked it in with the outside of his left boot...
WHAT a bloody good footballer!
I thought it went in off his shin.
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Did I miss something (apologies if this has been answered elsewhere) but aren't we supposed to be in that 3rd kit today? or am I thinking of the Manchester City game?
Man City
Ah that explains it. Thanks.
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Watching that too, very interesting.
I'm watching in Japanese, are you on hesgoal? I am.
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Jack looks very poor today. Hopefully he can relax and use the space
No disagree - he has been no 2 after SJM - but his end passing has been wrong - something that can be fixed. Worked really hard - box to box
His ball control is almost magical. Just needs to cut out the poor passes at the moment.
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Watching that too, very interesting.
He was honest, saying that he didnt go to Villa but was contacted after.
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
On mine they're doing a profile of Troy Deeney. Delightful
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Jack looks very poor today. Hopefully he can relax and use the space
No disagree - he has been no 2 after SJM - but his end passing has been wrong - something that can be fixed. Worked really hard - box to box
I agree, he’s passing has been great for most games so far but you can tell opposing teams fear him. I put it down to him adjusting. The guy is world class and he will show it this season I’m sure
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Yea watched that, he's immensely proud of being manager of the club during the record ten wins last season in our long and proud history.
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Watching that too, very interesting.
I'm watching in Japanese, are you on hesgoal? I am.
DAZN via Premier AD Live
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Watching that too, very interesting.
I'm watching in Japanese, are you on hesgoal? I am.
I think it's Korean but could be wong.
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Hasn’t been doh
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And we're off again.
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Jack looks very poor today. Hopefully he can relax and use the space
No disagree - he has been no 2 after SJM - but his end passing has been wrong - something that can be fixed. Worked really hard - box to box
His ball control is almost magical. Just needs to cut out the poor passes at the moment.
really dont like Grealish playing deep, he doesnt press opponents and is far too easy to get past
needs to be 15 yards higher up the pitch and maybe with the extra man he might get some more space
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Watching that too, very interesting.
I'm watching in Japanese, are you on hesgoal? I am.
DAZN via Premier AD Live
They are awesome :) - I mostly get all games I want to see on there - Even Faroe Islands national team (haha - yeah i know)
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Here's the goal https://twitter.com/avfchistory/status/1175800670399664130
Beautiful shinner.
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El Ghazi dropped a bollock there. Had the Arse wide open then.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000290222840/a384913d25ca992e1b7bcf1a4a9f7f62_400x400.jpeg)
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Good start
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On this stream that I have - there is an awesome interview with Dean Smith ..... Not sure if it is available elsewhere.
Watching that too, very interesting.
I'm watching in Japanese, are you on hesgoal? I am.
I think it's Korean but could be wong.
They all look the same to me. ;) , only joking.
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Thanks for that. Wouldn’t feigning a face injury be more a sending off than a yellow . Oh I dunno and promise to stop moaning about VAR
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Xhaka off.
Saka no Xhaka.
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Get a second Villa.
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Saka off for Chambers for Arsenal
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Chambers on and now playing RB. He is very slow so hopefully El Ghazi stays awake for this half.
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Another opening
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Jack looks very poor today. Hopefully he can relax and use the space
No disagree - he has been no 2 after SJM - but his end passing has been wrong - something that can be fixed. Worked really hard - box to box
I agree, he’s passing has been great for most games so far but you can tell opposing teams fear him. I put it down to him adjusting. The guy is world class and he will show it this season I’m sure
Some of his touches have been brilliant. Some of his passes not so much but he will keep on working. Don't know why some of our fans look for negatives all the time.
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Xhaka off.
Saka no Xhaka.
Yes, my mistake. And they way he's playing, hopefully Arsenal's mistake as well.
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I agree, Xhaka looks like a red card waiting to happen.
Unlucky there, good ball across and AEG not far away.
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Embarrassing from Trez.
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Get up Trez.
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Mings left winger and we nearly score
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Wesley plays the ball off then stands still.
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Mings on the wing!
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Mings suddenly deciding he's a better left winger than AEG.
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Mings is absolutely fantastic.
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Jeeze another attack wasted, we need to take one of these
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excellent play from Mings.
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Soft from SJM.
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Don't think 1-0 will be enough, we need a second.
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Imagine a team of 11 Tyrone's....
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Need a second.
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Mings suddenly deciding he's a better left winger than AEG.
He is.
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Why doesn’t Jack shoot more often......matron.
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Calm down Wesley. You might be rubbish but we don't need you getting sent off.
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Need to hook Wesley. Gonna get himself sent off at this rate.
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Pen for Arsenal
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Arsenal penalty.
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Sigh, El Ghazi. Did the hard work.
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Is it just me or does Emery always look like he needs one opf the Archbishops veggie curries to clear a blockage?
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We seem to have taken our foot off the gas this half.
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Need another goal.
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Bollocks
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God we must be the worst side around playing against 10 men.
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1-1
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Idiot
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Fucking bollocking shite.
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Fuck off
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My stream is miles behind.
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Ffs don't say the goal to early
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SJM shoots wide
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A second was there for the taking. Was inevitable they would score.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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That's why we needed the second. Top sides can play abysmally but still score goals out of little.
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WESLEY!!!
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That's what happens when you invite them back into the game.
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Shit Wesley scores
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Oh hang on....
WESLLEYY....
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2-1 Wesley!!!!!!
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Wesley yes! Win the fucking game Villa.
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Yessss
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My stream is still on the penalty!!
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YESSSSSSS
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Yesssssss!
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Shit Jack sets up shit Wes.
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One for Risso!!!!!!
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Aaaargh now going to be angry and fuck a goal
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That’s what fucking Jack can do. Brilliant finish by Wes
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Now we need the third.
Feck hanging onto this in eight minutes of injury time when they're all charging into the box.
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Wesley & Jack combine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Poor from Engels. First the clearance, then the challenge.
First mistakes the lad has made to be fair.
Come on Villa! They're there for the taking.
Wesley!!!!??
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Get the fuck in. Just what we needed!!
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Brilliant run from Jack and a nice finish from Wesley
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The Grealish doubters. Watch n weep.
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Brilliant from Jack, superb break.
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Risso! What did i say
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Oh my days
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Brilliant by Jack!
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Is this the same Wesley that you’ve been moaning about..
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Fuck me.
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Yesssss! Why is my stream so far behind?!
I've always said the lad just needs a bit of time....
(Yes, I am a twat!)
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Wesley that's the way.
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Another chance wasted
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Jacks had a really good game
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Risso, give us a song! Risso, Risso, give us a song!
Sssshhh....
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Trez has no power on his shots at all, frustrating as he makes some smart runs on the break.
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Wesley yes! Win the fucking game Villa.
Always said that Wesley was an althetic, hard working player.
Ahem... ::)
Still the best response after the pen 8)
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Wesley is absolute shite.
Be patient... please.. he will score
Booom
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My stream is so far behind its like Back to the Future or something.
Wesley's got the almanac!!! *
(is started the wine early tonight)
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Brilliant from Grealish AND Wesley. Now get off their backs!!!
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Had eight shots on target according to the stats.
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Our boys in fine voice
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We need to take one of these chances.
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Brilliant from Grealish AND Wesley. Now get off their backs!!!
But but but both were shit!
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I've no idea what my Spanish commentators are on about but they're very excited about Athton Viya ;D
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Hotlips and Elmo warming up
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Marvellous truly is marvellous. Doing all the donkey work in midfield, and doing it flippin well too!
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Heaton saves
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Frustrating from Trez, should've made the keeper work harder.
Then a lovely cross from Guilbert but didn't have enough men in the box.
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Not a foul... i like guilbert
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AEM coming on.
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Hotlips and Elmo warming up
For Trez and Freddie I reckon. One less winger and a more compact centre of midfield
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Heaton saves
Go away 😂😂😂
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Would probably bring Luiz on.
He seems pretty smart postionally and also can quickly pass when required.
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Elmo for Trez
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Need a third.
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Would probably bring Luiz on.
He seems pretty smart postionally and also can quickly pass when required.
Not in the squad.
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Smith should make some changes, they are needed.
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Would probably bring Luiz on.
He seems pretty smart postionally and also can quickly pass when required.
If he was in the 18
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Would probably bring Luiz on.
He seems pretty smart postionally and also can quickly pass when required.
It would help if he had been named as a sub.
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Would probably bring Luiz on.
He seems pretty smart postionally and also can quickly pass when required.
Not in the squad is he?
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Crab substitution IMO.
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Arsenal hit the post and then Heaton goes for a corner
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Would probably bring Luiz on.
He seems pretty smart postionally and also can quickly pass when required.
He's ineligible due to the Only One D Luiz Per Match Rule.
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Guendozhi hits post, Arsenal having good spell now.
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AEM on for Trez
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Crab substitution IMO.
Sideways move.
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Ah didn't realise, odd if he's fit given he's been in 18 all other games.
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What a save
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Would probably bring Luiz on.
He seems pretty smart postionally and also can quickly pass when required.
He's ineligible due to the Only One D Luiz Per Match Rule.
but typically Arsenal are getting away with ignoring the 1 sideshow bob per match rule.
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Crab substitution IMO.
Lansbury or Hourihane would have been my choice.
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Boomerang puts it's over should have scored
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AEM is a poor sub.
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They are going to try n cheat the way back into this.
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Someone mark that long haired bloke
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Arsenal causing carnages from these corners.
Willock on for Xhaka.
Torreria on for Ceballos.
Surprised they haven't put Ozil on.
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Crab substitution IMO.
Sideways move.
Dean needs a player to snap at the heels of the Arsenal players is my guess.
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Arsenal make their last sub and the boos start again.
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Crab substitution IMO.
Sideways move.
If Butch Wilkins was still alive he would’ve been perfect.
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Guendouzi is a moaning tit isn't he. Jesus Christ.
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Boomerang puts it's over should have scored
Can you give it about 5 minutes between seeing something and then posting about it please!
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Sideshow Bob MkII is a bit of a twat
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Arsenal hit the post and then Heaton goes for a corner
Shhhhh and was a save ;)
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We've lost our heads a bit, can't keep on the ball.
If we're tired then we still have two subs in play so use them Dean. He's been weak at that all season imo.
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Yeah, don't really get the Elmo substitution. Same as last Monday.
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Guendouzi is a moaning tit isn't he. Jesus Christ.
Yep they are trying to cheat their way out of this
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Boomerang puts it's over should have scored
Can you give it about 5 minutes between seeing something and then posting about it please!
Agreed
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Sloppy passing. Come on villa.
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Fuck me somehow holding on
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Someone mark that long haired bloke
I think our players are getting confused between the multiple Sideshow Bobs too. They're doing my head in.
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This is like Spurs now, all Arsenal.
Dean you have two subs...
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Crab substitution IMO.
Sideways move.
Dean needs a player to snap at the heels of the Arsenal players is my guess.
Maybe dean is planning a pincer movement?
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KEEP THE FUCKING BALL
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We are starting to give the ball away cheaply now, come on Villa.
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It must be a fitness issue.
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Come on Villa get a grip
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FFS we shouldn't be having to hold on against 10 men
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Now doing exactly what we did against Wet Spam. Dropping deeper and deeper
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Crab substitution IMO.
Sideways move.
Dean needs a player to snap at the heels of the Arsenal players is my guess.
Maybe dean is planning a pincer movement?
Let's hope we can claw something out of this.
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Dean has a real fucking blind spot at times. We need fresh legs and to hold the ball.
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FFS we shouldn't be having to hold on against 10 men
They are a little better than West Ham in fairness.
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Tiredness showing now. Why don’t we use remaining two subs?
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Another Arsenal corner.
Still 10 + minutes of this...
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We are asking for trouble. It looks like they have 11 men not us
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Living dangerously...
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Nearly every game we seem knackered after about 70 mins, make a change Dean ffs
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Smith ffs do something’
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We are getting mauled.
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Tiredness showing now. Why don’t we use remaining two subs?
Seems to be a British manager thing as MON would frequently only use one sub in games. 10/11 who've got you in this position must finish the job even if half of them are in zombie walking dead mode.
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Jota warming up
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Completely lost our shape
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FCKN HELL
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Nakamba my man of the match. Been a machine in that DM position today.
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Make some fucking subs already!!!
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Make a change please Dean.
Bring Lansbury on to boost the midfield, and maybe Davis for Wesley.
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Davis and Hourihane for me. Get them on.
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2-2
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This is all very desperate now
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ffs
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Fuck me
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McGinn looks broken.
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2-2 ffs.
This one is on Dean Smith I'm afraid.
Painfully slow yet again with his subs.
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Fcukin hell.
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Fucking hell Dean, it was coming so fucking do something.
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Guilbert is awesome
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Hourihane for McGinn (looks fooked) + Davis for Wesley please
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FFS
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We truly are own worst fucking enemies
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It's been coming
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It was coming.
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Fuck
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Fuck
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Ffs behind
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Bollocks
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Heita hula helviti
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Make fucking changes Smith, waited too long and then too late
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McGinn looks exhausted to me. He's not unsubbable. Bring Lansbury on for him.
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We fucking deserved that. We've been pathetic in the last 15 minutes
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This is all clueless Dean Smiths fault.
Naivety at it's finest.
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Wank defending. What the fuck are you playing Smith? Clown.
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I just don’t get Dean Smith’s reluctance to use subs strategically
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Bruce style game management
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We'll lose this at this rate. Unacceptable.
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We will lose this now. We have gone to pieces
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Playing like championship ******
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It's been coming
Of course it has, we invited them.
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Christ's sake. Against ten men, crowd on their backs, confidence down, and we can't keep the fucking ball long enough and just keep dropping back and back and back. I love Dean, but it's not good enough right now.
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Smith done us here.
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FUCK SAKE
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2-3
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The decision to bring Elmo on has cost us here, our shape has been all over the place since that change.
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And there we go...
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Seriously Dean, this is all on you.
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Sorry but this is down to Smith.
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Of fuck off. Clueless.
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I'm sorry that's absolutely terrible.
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2-3
Who to?
Edit: never mind.
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Mother fuckety fuck
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JUST FUCK OFF VILLA
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Smiths fault absolutely fucking awful game management
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Of fucking course.
Just fuck off Villa
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Fuck it was coming.
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Useless fucking bastards.
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Fuck the world
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You absolute shower of shit.
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Fucking ridiculous that we've had a man advantage all half and we're the ones looking out on our feet.
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Terrible management Dean, well done. Pathetic effort.
Fucking dismal.
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Dean Smith needs a damned good kicking for this. They were tired and needed a change about 15/20 minutes ago. He really needs to think about his tactics because I'm sorry this should be won and done by now.
Very poor.
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This is all on Dean Smith. So fucking naive.
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Fuck it was coming.
against 10 fucking men
a
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This is actually a big chance lost. Ten men for an hour dear me.
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We could all see that we were defending deep and inviting them onto us. It was only going to be a matter of time before Arsenal scored. SJM is clearly knackered yet no subs made.
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This is on Dean Smith I'm afraid.
Players gave their all and showed good quality again at times but with the intensity at this level they need help from their manager in the second half.
Dean seems to think we're still playing likes of Bolton and Rotherham where you can win games in second gear.
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You don't bring Elmo on in place of a threatening winger against a team of 10 men that look like rabbits in headlights every time we run at them.
2 subs left, but Smith leaves the team breathing out of their arse - This one is definitely on him, same as Monday.
We can all see it - As Chicago said, this is Bruce style management.
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Bunch of no bottle c***ts.
Smith now makes the subs needed 15 minutes ago, fucking clown.
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2-3
Blimey, don't believe it, we had this.
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The lack of quality in the team is frightening.
No one is able to pass to another villa player and crap decisions are being made all over the place.
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Embarrassing....against the worst Arsenal side in 25years
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The decision to bring Elmo on has cost us here, our shape has been all over the place since that change.
It's not like we tried the same move and didn't nearly get fucked over on Monday night is it?
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Smith is costing us games.
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Too many players blowing out their arses and we have 11. All round shit really, Deano has been poor
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Fucking assholes
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We will now lose two fucking games playing against 10 men with a lot of time left in the game. Absolutely pathetic
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Absolutely shit game management from smith, again. It's what has concerned me for longer than this season, and he needs to fucking sort it out.
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Fuming! Exactly the same shit that happenned at Tottenham but against 10 men this time.
We had the game won and in total control to get more then on the hour decide to do nothing but defend and get beat.
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It’s a fucking pathetic effort. Twice against 10 men, awful.
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Completely throwing this away.
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In the lead twice against 10 men!! And end with nothing. Dean Smith and coaches, wise up quickly, this is not the championship. I don’t want to be the plucky new boys, I am concerned
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Now he brings on a sub. Fucking hell, Dean.
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We're knackered because we have so little of the ball, against 10 men for so long and still less than 40% possession.
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Just fucking pathetic.
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For such a good coach and reader of the game it’s amazing he cannot see the obvious at times. Game was crying out for Conor and Davis.
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No excuses. Another game we should have won against 10 men. Unacceptable!
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Dean Smith needs a damned good kicking for this. They were tired and needed a change about 15/20 minutes ago. He really needs to think about his tactics because I'm sorry this should be won and done by now.
Very poor.
Worst thing for me is this isn't the first time. Was exactly the same v Spurs and even on Monday I didn't think his use of subs was clever.
Premier league is ruthless and seems to me he still is game managing like we're playing v likes of Bolton and Rotherham, games you can win in second gear.
As good as many other aspects of his management style are, you need to be quick at game changing options at this level if you really want to be at the top.
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They were there for the taking and we've fucked it
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We have a pen VAR review
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No we don't seems it was dismissed straight away
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Never seen McGinn look so tired. He's losing the ball every time he gets it. Should have subbed him for hotlips at 65 min.
A big fuck you, Dean Smith. I love you as our manager, but you need to wise the fuck up. And quickly!
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5 mins added time
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Very wasteful up front. Comedy of errors at the back again. Against 10 men for an hour. Fucking sort it out lads.
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You don't bring Elmo on in place of a threatening winger against a team of 10 men that look like rabbits in headlights every time we run at them.
2 subs left, but Smith leaves the team breathing out of their arse - This one is definitely on him, same as Monday.
We can all see it - As Chicago said, this is Bruce style management.
the fact we are bringing on Elmo says it all. Champs quality at best
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No we don't seems it was dismissed straight away
Never getting that in prem, yes if we play in european cup again.
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I'm sorry as hell to say this, but so far I'm not sure we've really been the better side in any game, our game management is very poor, we don't look particularly prepared tactically or physically, our movement off the ball is often substandard and looks a little un-coached, and we don't seem to be reacting to any of this. Dean needs to turn this around.
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Threw it away. Not good enough Smith. This game was there for the taking and yet again we can't do 10 men. You can't keep saying we are learning as that won't cut it.
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Taking Trez off killed us.
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Failing to beat ten men in two games running, the latter of which we had the advantage for about fifty minutes and held the lead twice. I usually go for the glass half full approach but I am pissed about how today has panned out.
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Three games against 10 men, and one point to show for it. Dean Smith's game management is piss poor.
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5 extra minutes to sort this shit out.
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This is on Dean Smith I'm afraid.
Players gave their all and showed good quality again at times but with the intensity at this level they need help from their manager in the second half.
Dean seems to think we're still playing likes of Bolton and Rotherham where you can win games in second gear.
Unless someone gives him a tactics talk soon, we will be playing those games. But he does have his man.team around him, so why don't they speak up during the game?
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Elmo played all of last year as a right back, so now why is he our go to sub for a winger?
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Dismal last 20 mins. Why we were retreating and letting Arsenal have the ball I don't know. We had a man advantage. Don't expect a win here on paper, but given the context of the game today, this is a bad loss.
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Dean Smith won’t survive in the job if he doesn’t wise up quickly.
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Sadly, further evidence that smith is struggling to lift his game to cope with demands of the PL.
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We're going down, and we have only ourselves to blame.
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Elmo played all of last year as a right back, so now why is he our go to sub for a winger?
Apparently he’s never been on the winning side against Arsenal
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Also why does VAR hate us?
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Dean Smith won’t survive in the job if he doesn’t wise up quickly.
Indeed. I want him to do well but he is inflexible tactically, he left us short up front in the summer, and his in-game management is woeful. Needs to sort it out quick.
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We're going down, and we have only ourselves to blame.
only 32 games to save ourselves
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Sadly, further evidence that smith is struggling to lift his game to cope with demands of the PL.
not rocket science, though, is it?
Go 2-1 up, stiffen the midfield.
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Absolutely shit game management from smith, again. It's what has concerned me for longer than this season, and he needs to fucking sort it out.
Same here, Ger. When we start going on these winless runs he doesn't seem to have an answer. Apparently it was the same at Brentford. Right now he's costing us vital points.
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FT
Fuck off Villa and Dean, I love you but that was fucking shit game management.
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We're going down, and we have only ourselves to blame.
only 32 games to save ourselves
Have you seen anything from these 6 games to think we have enough quality to stay up? Twice in a row, we have failed to show enough to beat 10 men. We're in serious trouble.
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Sadly, further evidence that smith is struggling to lift his game to cope with demands of the PL.
not rocket science, though, is it?
Go 2-1 up, stiffen the midfield.
Two midfielders in the subs, SJM out on his feet, so let's bring Elmohamady on. Genius.
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How much of a bastard is that?
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Shambles. Next 3 games are massive. For Dean Smith's future if anything.
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We haven't put in a really impressive ninety minutes in the league. Twenty odd good minutes, twenty odd average minutes and twenty odd poor minutes is generally the way it has gone. I thought scoring goals was the worry but scoring two away at Arsenal and conceding three suggests the defence might not be as competent as we thought.
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I turned the stream off with 15 mins left because I could see we were trying our darndest to chuck it away.
Totally fucking unacceptable to be losing after leading against 10 men. We're not fit enough and that's down to Smith, and yet he won't put the subs on. Fucking idiot.
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FUCK OFFF
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Bollocks. Proper fucked that up.
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We’ve always been a team that lose 3-2 in games where we’ve been in control. This is no shock.
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Fuck OFF!
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If Smith doesn't turn this around quickly he'll be gone, and that may be the only way we can try and stay up. Totally inflexible to make subs. Why were we so tired when we had the extra time! Dreadful and this is what I expected. If this goes on we'll be down by Christmas.
Very, very poor!
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That's the worst game management I've seen for many a year.
Some of those players will need to take a look at themselves as well. Lost their heads.
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We were denied a definite pen. I dont understand what the fuck VAR is for?
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Can't see the owners being happy about all this after spending £180 million.
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Haven't seen any of the game but I just knew it would be down to poor game management. Shades of Sherwood against Leicester when we were 2 up and lost 3-2?
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Fucking hell, what a bunch of over the top babies.
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I am not happy with was has happened today but some people are going a bit over the top regarding Dean Smith. We are a newly promoted side who have just lost away to Arsenal who have qualified for Europe one way or another for donkeys years.
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inviting pressure when 2-1 against 10 men, just like against West Ham
If Bruce made these decisions he'd get slaughtered , what the fucks Smith playing at
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Take your point but it’s the nature of the defeat (self inflicted) that makes this one so piss poor.
I’d have taken a one goal loss before the game but the way I see it the players got us in a great position, helped by the red card, and smith let them down.
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I am not happy with was has happened today but some people are going a bit over the top regarding Dean Smith. We are a newly promoted side who have just lost away to Arsenal who have qualified for Europe one way or another for donkeys years.
How are they, they had 10 men, the crowd on their back, they fucked up against Watford last week, it's not like they're the Arsenal of old. We threw the points away, Arsenal didn't have to do much to win them.