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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: brontebilly on August 01, 2019, 11:50:55 AM

Title: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: brontebilly on August 01, 2019, 11:50:55 AM: Not long away now. Think Hourihane will start the season in the team. Is Engels ahead of Konsa?

------------Heaton
Guilbert, Engels, Mings, Targett
-----------Hourihane
Jota, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi
--------------Wesley

Steer, Elmo, Konsa, Luiz, Marvelous, Trez, Davis/Kodjia
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2019, 12:09:04 PM: Think we should make a game of this, as it is so tricky this year!

Rule is you pick the team and the subs.

If you pick a player for the team and he starts: 3 points

If you pick a player as sub and he starts on the bench: 3 points

If you pick a player to start and he starts on the bench: 1 point

If you pick a player on the bench and he starts: 1 point.

In the event of a draw for the winners, whoever posted first wins.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Kimaster1976 on August 01, 2019, 12:10:09 PM: That is the team he will pick, unless we sign another CF/AM who will then take places on the bench.

If Marvelous or David Luiz are deemed match fit enough one of them would take the place of Hourihane however.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2019, 12:11:54 PM: Though I might wait to see if we sign a new striker before guessing!
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: UK Redsox on August 01, 2019, 12:12:09 PM: Quote from: brontebilly on August 01, 2019, 11:50:55 AM
Not long away now. Think Hourihane will start the season in the team. Is Engels ahead of Konsa?

------------Heaton
Guilbert, Engels, Mings, Targett
-----------Hourihane
Jota, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi
--------------Wesley

Steer, Elmo, Konsa, Luiz, Marvelous, Trez, Davis/Kodjia

As above, except Hause for Konsa
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: darren woolley on August 01, 2019, 12:14:33 PM: I would pick Douglas Luiz in that DM position we need a natural defensive midfielder against Spurs there midfield will hurt you if given half a chance plus with him sitting protecting the back four free's Jack and John to do there business.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: UK Redsox on August 01, 2019, 12:25:13 PM: Quote from: darren woolley on August 01, 2019, 12:14:33 PM
I would pick Douglas Luiz in that DM position we need a natural defensive midfielder against Spurs there midfield will hurt you if given half a chance plus with him sitting protecting the back four free's Jack and John to do there business.

That depends on Doug being ok to play against Leipzig and the work permit being granted.

Can he even train with the team without the work permit ? There's more to the 'job' of a footballer than playing the games
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: brontebilly on August 01, 2019, 12:36:32 PM: Quote from: UK Redsox on August 01, 2019, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: brontebilly on August 01, 2019, 11:50:55 AM
Not long away now. Think Hourihane will start the season in the team. Is Engels ahead of Konsa?

------------Heaton
Guilbert, Engels, Mings, Targett
-----------Hourihane
Jota, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi
--------------Wesley

Steer, Elmo, Konsa, Luiz, Marvelous, Trez, Davis/Kodjia

As above, except Hause for Konsa

Would be very surprised if Smith starts a left footed centre back on the right side considering he signed two of them this summer. Also Chester is available again but seems to be a long way down pecking order?
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: jwarry on August 01, 2019, 01:16:13 PM: Amazing to think only 6 weeks ago the team would have picked itself!
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 01, 2019, 01:51:44 PM: I would swap Marvellous for Hotlips as Marvellous played in ACON he should be reasonably fit and already have a game and a weeks training / introduction under his belt by the time KO comes around.

I doubt Douglas has kicked a ball in vain for a good few weeks and gym work is no substitute for game time so it may be a few weeks before we see him - I would imagine he is available to play in some U23 games due to his age
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 01, 2019, 03:24:07 PM: I don’t see us starting with Hourihane ad DM.
I hope not anyway.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: not3bad on August 01, 2019, 03:26:38 PM: I thought Konsa was ahead of Engels?
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Pete3206 on August 01, 2019, 03:30:37 PM: Guzan
Hutton Richards Lescott Bennett
Bacuna Sanchez Westwood Richardson
Agbonlahor Gestede

No problem
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Axl Rose on August 01, 2019, 03:33:36 PM: Quote from: Pete3206 on August 01, 2019, 03:30:37 PM
Guzan
Hutton Richards Lescott Bennett
Bacuna Sanchez Westwood Richardson
Agbonlahor Gestede

No problem

Vomit inducing.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Smirker on August 01, 2019, 03:41:15 PM: Heaton

Guilbert - Engels - Mings - Targett

Douglas

McGinn - Grealish

Trezeguet - Jota - El Ghazi

Icardi
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: rougegorge on August 01, 2019, 03:45:39 PM: Bunn
Lyden
Bacuna
Lescott
Toner
Cissokho
Westwood
Sanchez
Gueye
Sinclair
Ayew

Our last starting XI in the prem...in conjunction with Eric Black 😧
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: danno on August 01, 2019, 03:50:28 PM: Quote from: Smirker on August 01, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Heaton

Guilbert - Engels - Mings - Targett

Douglas

McGinn - Grealish

Trezeguet - Jota - El Ghazi

Icardi

Don't think they'll let us start twelve players mate!
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Smirker on August 01, 2019, 03:56:32 PM: Quote from: danno on August 01, 2019, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Smirker on August 01, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Heaton

Guilbert - Engels - Mings - Targett

Douglas

McGinn - Grealish

Trezeguet - Jota - El Ghazi

Icardi

Don't think they'll let us start twelve players mate!

Trez out, Jota and El Ghazi either side of Jack and John.
Title: Name your starting XI for Opening Day
Post by: ExclDawg on August 01, 2019, 05:30:44 PM: It seems like I need to do this every year, as I don't have quite the feel for all the transfers that come in, but this year I'm really going to need help. We could pretty much roll out a starting roster of all new players.

For laughs, here's my completely uneducated guess if we keep the 3-3-4'ish look from last season:

Heaton
Elmo - Konza - Mings - Targett
SJM - Ruis - Grealish
Trezeguet - Wesley - El Ghazi

Which would still leave Nakamba, Engels, and Jota on the bench. And if we bring in Maupay or another top striker ... no idea then.
Title: Re: Name your starting XI for Opening Day
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 01, 2019, 05:40:59 PM: Is this the same as ‘Pick team v Spurs’ or something different? :-)
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: ExclDawg on August 01, 2019, 05:46:39 PM: Yeah, completely missed the thread. I'm dumb! ;D
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on August 01, 2019, 05:57:29 PM: Quote from: rougegorge on August 01, 2019, 03:45:39 PM
Bunn
Lyden
Bacuna
Lescott
Toner
Cissokho
Westwood
Sanchez
Gueye
Sinclair
Ayew

Our last starting XI in the prem...in conjunction with Eric Black 😧

How did we get relegated with that quality?
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2019, 06:03:06 PM: I had completely forgotten about Toner. And Lyden.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: not3bad on August 01, 2019, 06:27:28 PM: I remember Lyden because his first name is Jordan and we had a few Jordans around the place at that time.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: not3bad on August 01, 2019, 06:27:57 PM: Quote from: Pete3206 on August 01, 2019, 03:30:37 PM
Guzan
Hutton Richards Lescott Bennett
Bacuna Sanchez Westwood Richardson
Agbonlahor Gestede

No problem

I don't remember a Bennett though!
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Risso on August 01, 2019, 06:32:24 PM: Quote from: rougegorge on August 01, 2019, 03:45:39 PM
Bunn
Lyden
Bacuna
Lescott
Toner
Cissokho
Westwood
Sanchez
Gueye
Sinclair
Ayew

Fuck my old boots, we must all have been bad in a previous life to deserve a team like that. No bloody wonder we went down as meekly as we did.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Ads on August 01, 2019, 07:27:09 PM: Heaton

Targett
Mings
Engles
Guilbert

Marvelous
McGinn
Grealish

Jota
Wesley
El Ghazi
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Baldy on August 02, 2019, 08:59:34 AM: I think Dean will treat this season as a 'marathon and not a sprint'. Some of our new players will need time to settle, learn their role and prove they warrant a place in the starting eleven. Pity Spurs away first gives us less scope for experimentation. For the first match, Baldy jury says:

Heaton

Elmo
Mings
Hause
Targett

Hourihane

Jota
McGinn
Grealish
El Ghazi

Wesley

Subs: Steer, Guilbert, Engels, Lansbury, Marvelous, Trezeguet, Kodjia.

Our best starting eleven will change a lot over the coming weeks. But for first match, a bit of continuity might do no harm!!
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: mr underhill on August 02, 2019, 09:20:48 AM: Hourihane will get marmelized in that position. Fred to start at RB and Engles in the middle with Mings. Don't know about DM - why not bung Marv in?
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Risso on August 02, 2019, 09:24:26 AM: Heaton
Guilbert Engels Mings Targett
Marvelous
McGinn Grealish
Trezeguet Wesley El Ghazi

Subs: Steer Elmo Hause Konsa Jota Kodjia

Haven't seen that Luiz has got his work permit yet, but still no place on the bench for Chester or Lansbury.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 02, 2019, 09:40:23 AM: Pretty much my thoughts too Risso. I'd have Hause over Taylor on the bench too. Which makes me think we may as well try and flog him.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Baldy on August 02, 2019, 09:58:48 AM: Quote from: mr underhill on August 02, 2019, 09:20:48 AM
Hourihane will get marmelized in that position. Fred to start at RB and Engles in the middle with Mings. Don't know about DM - why not bung Marv in?

If it was Bournemouth at home for the first match, Guilbert, Engels and Marv would seriously be considered in my starting eleven. I really rate Hourihane, Elmo and Hause and think they have 'toughened up' towards the end of last season and earned a game against Spurs to prove themselves. Jota has had a great pre-season and should be rewarded.

Spurs away, might be a bit like jumping in the 'deep end before you can swim' for a few of the new players.

Brill that Deano has so many options and thankfully, a good head on his shoulders. Mine is spinning!!!
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Axl Rose on August 02, 2019, 10:01:17 AM: Quote from: Risso on August 02, 2019, 09:24:26 AM
Heaton
Guilbert Engels Mings Targett
Marvelous
McGinn Grealish
Trezeguet Wesley El Ghazi

Subs: Steer Elmo Hause Konsa Jota Kodjia

Haven't seen that Luiz has got his work permit yet, but still no place on the bench for Chester or Lansbury.

I'd go with that lineup, too.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Risso on August 02, 2019, 10:12:52 AM: Quote from: garyshawsknee on August 02, 2019, 09:40:23 AM
Pretty much my thoughts too Risso. I'd have Hause over Taylor on the bench too. Which makes me think we may as well try and flog him.

Yes, Hause can cover centre back and left back, so Taylor misses out too. If we buy another forward, which we should, then Kodjia misses out as well, as does Davis when everybody is fit. What a turnaround.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Neil Hawkes on August 02, 2019, 01:08:11 PM: I haven't got a clue on what the team should be for this one, but for the first time that I can remember - out of the team that won their last match of the season, (with some flair I might add), there are only 2 x players that where actually owned by the club, that I want to see in the starting line-up and that's Jack & SJM.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: lukey27 on August 02, 2019, 03:49:18 PM: I think Jota is an absolute cert to start the match. With two more expansive full-backs there will be occasions this season where he can play narrower and could even play Nakamba and Douglas together.

First up, though, I can't imagine he'll go too far away from the formation last season, so I imagine it'll be;

Heaton
Guilbert
Targett
Engels
Mings

Nakamba
Grealish
McGinn

Jota
El Ghazi
Wesley
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: JJ-AV on August 03, 2019, 06:41:17 AM: I'd go with Lukey. Jota's been in form, no rush to put Trez in.

Luiz to start if available and played.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Steer start.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 03, 2019, 07:43:26 AM: Quote from: Ads on August 01, 2019, 07:27:09 PM
Heaton

Targett
Mings
Engles
Guilbert

Marvelous
McGinn
Grealish

Jota
Wesley
El Ghazi

I like the way it reads Marvellous McGinn
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: mr underhill on August 03, 2019, 07:44:48 AM: Heaton to start, I don't think he's come to sit on the bench. Jed was magnificent last season but he's no longer first pick.
Title: Re: Pick team v Spurs
Post by: Brassneck on August 03, 2019, 08:45:46 AM: Quote from: lukey27 on August 02, 2019, 03:49:18 PM
I think Jota is an absolute cert to start the match. With two more expansive full-backs there will be occasions this season where he can play narrower and could even play Nakamba and Douglas together.

First up, though, I can't imagine he'll go too far away from the formation last season, so I imagine it'll be;

Heaton
Guilbert
Targett
Engels
Mings

Nakamba
Grealish
McGinn

Jota
El Ghazi
Wesley

This would be my team and I never dreamed that I'd be picking Jota in a starting 11 when he first signed for us a few weeks ago. The only two positions that I have to think about is defensive midfield and whether to start with Trez. For me, the safer bets next week are AEG & Marvelous.