Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Sexual Ealing on June 06, 2019, 02:09:47 PM
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/06/w88-become-new-principal-partner-of-aston-villa
More betting ghouls on the shirt.
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Never heard of them
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Never heard of them
They sponsor Wolves, apparently.
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Sponsored the dogheads last season.
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So if it is a record - how much?
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So if it is a record - how much?
7s 6d
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Who?
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Never heard of them
It's about shirts on TV in Asia these days
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Sadly it seems to be betting partners who are willing to pay the £££ until you are in the top 6
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first time we have had two fat ladies on the shirt
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We're sponsored by a thermo-nuclear warhead. Either that or an opaque, Philippines-based gambling platform. A bit shit either way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W88
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I think my top 3 are:
1. Acorns
2. Mita Copiers
3. Davenports
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I think my top 3 are:
1. Acorns
2. Mita Copiers
3. Davenports
Rover and MG
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I think my top 3 are:
1. Acorns
2. Mita Copiers
3. Davenports
Rover and MG
Maybe they sneak in. Mita Copiers were the kits of my formative years and I really like the designs.
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I never take a blind bit of notice - and that's from someone who worked in marketing for 30 years.
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Me neither. We just came up. I assume they paid the most based on who stepped forward. It’s a one year deal so the better we do the better the offers that will follow
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I think my top 3 are:
1. Acorns
2. Mita Copiers
3. Davenports
Rover and MG
Maybe they sneak in. Mita Copiers were the kits of my formative years and I really like the designs.
They even recorded a song: 'Mita sponsers Villa, copy that, copy that'.
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Me neither. We just came up. I assume they paid the most based on who stepped forward. It’s a one year deal so the better we do the better the offers that will follow
This. 100%.
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I never take a blind bit of notice - and that's from someone who worked in marketing for 30 years.
I do notice, but also don't care.
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Will look good on this merch...
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Why do they hate the colour blue so much?
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That gear is absolutely revolting
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It's ace, just wish it was more obvious that it's Villa stuff.
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That looks like the machine malfunctioned during manufacturing and they just went with it anyway
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so tired of having a betting company on the front of the shirt.. at least there's no Chinese characters across the chest.
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There's nothing wrong with gambling, in moderation. I'm glad we won't have a kit designed by people who endorse the ritual slaughter of innocent animals anymore. That'll do.
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Intriguing wording “front of shirt” partner......
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A betting company with 8s in the name sponsoring a football team. So original.
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Intriguing wording “front of shirt” partner......
PL teams have a sponsor on the sleeve as well I think, so that's still to come. My money's on Xpelair.
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Will look good on this merch...
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/61742175_2367204900192851_274978791430815744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=d993ec1a12ec8566f1b0bfc15afb94db&oe=5D9C3D69)
That is fucking awful. Is it genuine?
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Intriguing wording “front of shirt” partner......
PL teams have a sponsor on the sleeve as well I think, so that's still to come. My money's on Xpelair.
That's going on the back of the shorts ;-)
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A betting company with 8s in the name sponsoring a football team. So original.
Haven't checked but guessing they are Chinese/Thai? They seem to have a weird obsession with that number.
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Described as record breaking, so that'll do for me.
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A betting company with 8s in the name sponsoring a football team. So original.
Haven't checked but guessing they are Chinese/Thai? They seem to have a weird obsession with that number.
They do and I only know that because I got married on 8/8/8 and flippin’ Chinese couples had inflated the price of everything.
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Given the news of Acorns Walsall reported elsewhere on this site, I was hoping we'd put them on the shirt again to raise the profile of the hospices, but sadly not. I'd shell out for the home and away shirts if that were the case, but the gambling industry has more clout than me so their money is of more value than mine to the club.
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Yeah. Without being too tedious, and yes I know we’re a commercial operation, I do find the ubiquity of betting sponsors in football a bit crass and depressing. Especially given some of the high profile addiction issues in the game.
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The simple answer would be to ban sponsorship from gambling. How do our Muslim players justify wearing it? Gambling is definitely haram.
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Loads of my Muslim mates gamble and they all reckon they’re going to heaven. That’s until I remind them of all the other shit they’ve done. And our soon to newest signing gave up a day of fasting to score a header in the play off final.
Sponsorship is about money. And the best sponsors with the deepest pockets tend to go the more high profile sides. If we do well we’ll get better deals. Might even be a bigger deal from betting company. Simple really.
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It's up to the individual Muslim, I think. I seem to recall Kanoute didn't like it when he was at Sevilla and wanted to put black masking tape over the sponsor. They eventually won him round by agreeing to donate part of the proceeds to a charity of his choice.
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Those outfits are a travesty. Are they designed by Kappa?
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Alcohol rather than gambling, but the South African cricketer Hashim Amla doesn't have the sponsor's logo on his gear because it's Castle Lager.
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It's up to the individual Muslim, I think. I seem to recall Kanoute didn't like it when he was at Sevilla and wanted to put black masking tape over the sponsor. They eventually won him round by agreeing to donate part of the proceeds to a charity of his choice.
I seem to remember a Newcastle player refusing to wear a Wonga shirt because money lending is also haram. I can’t see why betting, alcohol and tobacco can’t all be banned as sponsors. My boy didn’t understand why his Villa shirt didn’t have the sponsor on when his mates’ teams do. I tried to explain that gambling isn’t great without making it look like Villa were supporting something bad. Then I told him, ‘if we get promoted, we can get a better sponsor ‘. Better as in more cash, undoubtedly. Morally, nope. I drink alcohol responsibly and it’s one of my favourite things, but I know that for lots of people it’s a health and social disaster so I don’t think it should be on our shirts. Likewise, gambling is harmless fun to loads but To many others, most of them the more disadvantaged, it’s devastating. Can someone help me down from my soapbox, I’m a bit pissed.
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It's up to the individual Muslim, I think. I seem to recall Kanoute didn't like it when he was at Sevilla and wanted to put black masking tape over the sponsor. They eventually won him round by agreeing to donate part of the proceeds to a charity of his choice.
I seem to remember a Newcastle player refusing to wear a Wonga shirt because money lending is also haram. I can’t see why betting, alcohol and tobacco can’t all be banned as sponsors. My boy didn’t understand why his Villa shirt didn’t have the sponsor on when his mates’ teams do. I tried to explain that gambling isn’t great without making it look like Villa were supporting something bad. Then I told him, ‘if we get promoted, we can get a better sponsor ‘. Better as in more cash, undoubtedly. Morally, nope. I drink alcohol responsibly and it’s one of my favourite things, but I know that for lots of people it’s a health and social disaster so I don’t think it should be on our shirts. Likewise, gambling is harmless fun to loads but To many others, most of them the more disadvantaged, it’s devastating. Can someone help me down from my soapbox, I’m a bit pissed.
Stay on your soap box. McDonalds sponsorship of athletics can go in the same toilet.
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As we become understanding of mental health, I suspect that in due course shirt sponsorship by betting companies will go the sames way that alcohol sponsorship did due to the detrimental effect of drink on physical health.
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It's up to the individual Muslim, I think. I seem to recall Kanoute didn't like it when he was at Sevilla and wanted to put black masking tape over the sponsor. They eventually won him round by agreeing to donate part of the proceeds to a charity of his choice.
I seem to remember a Newcastle player refusing to wear a Wonga shirt because money lending is also haram
Papiss Cisse I think it was.
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It's up to the individual Muslim, I think. I seem to recall Kanoute didn't like it when he was at Sevilla and wanted to put black masking tape over the sponsor. They eventually won him round by agreeing to donate part of the proceeds to a charity of his choice.
I seem to remember a Newcastle player refusing to wear a Wonga shirt because money lending is also haram
Papiss Cisse I think it was.
Good old Sharia finance. Call 'interest' something else, charge a bit more, and everybody is happy.
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As we become understanding of mental health, I suspect that in due course shirt sponsorship by betting companies will go the sames way that alcohol sponsorship did due to the detrimental effect of drink on physical health.
Yeah the ciggies long since went
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Loads of my Muslim mates gamble and they all reckon they’re going to heaven. That’s until I remind them of all the other shit they’ve done. And our soon to newest signing gave up a day of fasting to score a header in the play off final.
Sponsorship is about money. And the best sponsors with the deepest pockets tend to go the more high profile sides. If we do well we’ll get better deals. Might even be a bigger deal from betting company. Simple really.
Header!!
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I think my top 3 are:
1. Acorns
2. Mita Copiers
3. Davenports
Rover and MG
Cows
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Alcohol rather than gambling, but the South African cricketer Hashim Amla doesn't have the sponsor's logo on his gear because it's Castle Lager.
Couldn't he wear his shirt inside out? Be a sort of African Castle Reverser?
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Alcohol rather than gambling, but the South African cricketer Hashim Amla doesn't have the sponsor's logo on his gear because it's Castle Lager.
Couldn't he wear his shirt inside out? Be a sort of African Castle Reverser?
Nice one PM - that had me spitting my coffee out :)
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It's up to the individual Muslim, I think. I seem to recall Kanoute didn't like it when he was at Sevilla and wanted to put black masking tape over the sponsor. They eventually won him round by agreeing to donate part of the proceeds to a charity of his choice.
I seem to remember a Newcastle player refusing to wear a Wonga shirt because money lending is also haram
Papiss Cisse I think it was.
Who was then pictured at the Black Jack tables. Go figure as the Americans would say.
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He was merely testing his resistance levels m'lud.
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so tired of having a betting company on the front of the shirt.. at least there's no Chinese characters across the chest.
Might have been interesting. Year of the Lion.
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so tired of having a betting company on the front of the shirt.. at least there's no Chinese characters across the chest.
Might have been interesting. Year of the Lion.
I'm convinced!
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12 months ago we were struggling to pay our tax bill. I’m certainly not going to get judgmental with any ‘record breaking’ sponsorship deal.
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How much will it be worth? £5m?
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Every bloody transfer these days is an "undisclosed fee". Chances of them telling us how much a sponsorhip deal is would be just about nil, I'd have thought.
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Tom Watson speaks:
"--- Another case in point comes with the announcement that W88 (who, you might ask) are to be the new shirt sponsor for promoted Aston Villa. W88 is an obscure online gambling online gambling company based in the Philippines. They are also one of the companies who have failed to donate 0.1% of their revenue to GambleAware, as recommended by the Gambling Commission. Last season they paid an estimated £10million to sponsor Wolves, but only gave £250 to GambleAware.
It's another shocking example of a UK licence being used as a platform for offshore operators to use the reputation of British sport as a marketing tool for their own domestic audience - where the benefits of the UK market are enjoyed but nothing is given back to address the harm that is caused. This situation simply has to change."
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£10m would be double our largest sponsorship deal.
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Classy operation by the sounds of it.
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Randy Lerner would’ve donated 80%, if he’d been in the gambling industry.
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Classy operation by the sounds of it.
We are back in the "Premier" - it's about the money - values and morals count for nothing - personally I find it abhorrent but hey ho that's life :(
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Totally agree mate. I know it’s all about the money but it sounds like we’ve got a sponsor at the shitty end of a shitty industry.
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Tom Watson speaks:
"--- Another case in point comes with the announcement that W88 (who, you might ask) are to be the new shirt sponsor for promoted Aston Villa. W88 is an obscure online gambling online gambling company based in the Philippines. They are also one of the companies who have failed to donate 0.1% of their revenue to GambleAware, as recommended by the Gambling Commission. Last season they paid an estimated £10million to sponsor Wolves, but only gave £250 to GambleAware.
It's another shocking example of a UK licence being used as a platform for offshore operators to use the reputation of British sport as a marketing tool for their own domestic audience - where the benefits of the UK market are enjoyed but nothing is given back to address the harm that is caused. This situation simply has to change."
I'm sorry, but what sort of bollocks is "as recommended by the Gambling Commission"? Either regulate the industry properly and make it compulsory, or don't bother.
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Isn't that the point he's making?
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Isn't that the point he's making?
Yes, I wasn't saying his point was bollocks, just the situation where you expect companies to pay a voluntary levy.
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I read somewhere that Wolves have paid off their contract with W88
Slightly ironic that we are now sponsored by them ......thank you Wolves for £xxxm
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So Wolves are paying us.
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So Wolves are paying us.
So potentially we've had the money back that we paid for Hause ? :)
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We have a sleeve partner. https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/13/new-official-sleeve-partner-announced
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I'm so buzzing right now to have a sleeve partner.
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What's all this 88 bollocks then, good luck in China or something?
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
pants
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Money coming in, what's not to like
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West Ham had a sleeve sponsor. If it generates cash then its good for me.
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Half expecting to see players with wonga tattoos next.
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"We’re looking forward to working with BR88 to engage our global audience with a unique and exciting user experience across their platforms." Who writes this shit?
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
All the PL clubs have them don’t they? Everton has fucking Angry Birds
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
All the PL clubs have them don’t they? Everton has fucking Angry Birds
Tell me about it. The last scouse girl I went out with was mental.
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
All the PL clubs have them don’t they? Everton has fucking Angry Birds
Don't know, I've completely ignored that league for 3 years.
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It’s what it is, money makes the (football) world go round, especially the premier league.
Why should anyone get upset?
It’s where we want/need to be and personally I couldn’t give a rats ass if the sleeves, socks, or gusset of the shorts are sponsored as long as the club are making the money they need to allow us to buy £25m strikers etc.etc.
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
All the PL clubs have them don’t they? Everton has fucking Angry Birds
Don't know, I've completely ignored that league for 3 years.
Richard keys got sacked you know ???
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Fuck! Well at least we've still got Andy Gray to look forward to.
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I’d have thought the W88 agreement would have ruled out advertising one of their competitors on the same shirt?
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What's all this 88 bollocks then, good luck in China or something?
The number 8 is lucky so the number 88 must be amazingly lucky.
Just imagine how many trophies we will win when we're sponsored by Bet888888!
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How long before the prem becomes like ligue 1 in France.
They have shirts ,shorts and socks unlimited sponsors.
Some of the look like formula 1 drivers
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Well, Ligue 1 in France has just become "Ligue 1 Uber Eats" in a new naming rights deal.
Football's being sold, sold and sold.
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Well, Ligue 1 in France has just become "Ligue 1 Uber Eats" in a new naming rights deal.
Football's being sold, sold and sold.
The top flight in Germany is in a similar vein being renamed ‘Bundesliga über alles.’
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
All the PL clubs have them don’t they? Everton has fucking Angry Birds
Tell me about it. The last scouse girl I went out with was mental.
You think that's bad, I married one.
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A fucking sleeve partner? What next?
All the PL clubs have them don’t they? Everton has fucking Angry Birds
Tell me about it. The last scouse girl I went out with was mental.
You think that's bad, I married one.
You think that's bad, I married two!
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I'm pretty sure that's against the law. Even in Liverpool.
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I'm pretty sure that's against the law. Even in Liverpool.
Calm down!
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I'm pretty sure that's against the law. Even in Liverpool.
I always thought it would be bigamy if I was married to 2 Scousers. Then again it would be big of anyone.
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I feel sorry for him because that's what I would've done if I had ever been any good.
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If I had that kind of cash I'd probably go really crazy and buy an Easter egg even if it wasn't Easter.
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If I had that kind of cash I'd probably go really crazy and buy an Easter egg even if it wasn't Easter.
Do you want to buy an Easter egg?
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Not on my wages. Maybe one day. *Sighs.
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Just wait until the Premier League becomes like the Egg-chasing super League. Every time a try is scored there is a fanfare, music, and the sponsor of the scorer is announced via Audi, video and remote-controlled cars: "Aaaaand that try scored by Greg Bird comes to you courtesy of 'Bernard's Butcher's"
"Villa take the lead. Great strike from Wesley, who has his scoring boots on for the Shamihal at the Fox and Goose."
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Apologies if anyone else has spotted this, but I wonder if Villa realise that W88 is an American thermo-nuclear warhead
(https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/images/w88-nyt.jpg)
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It was pointed out at the beginning.
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It was pointed out at the beginning.
Missed that - sorry!
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This is similar to when you post about a celebrity death you saw on the net, only to find that they died three years ago.