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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dazvillain on April 28, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
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Probably needs more debate leading into a later in the week pre match thread due to injuries, and more very important games thereafter so......
It’s mentioned to comply with EFL rules , strongest possible and minimum 14/18 match day squad should be present so here goes
Sarkic
Hutton Jedinak Elphick Taylor
Whelan
Green Lansbury Hourihan Albert
Davies
Bench; Steer, Grealish, Bjarnason, El Ghazi, Hause, Abraham, Tuanzebe
4 dropping out from Leeds squad are Mings, McGinn, Kodja and Elmo, replaced by Elphick, Davies, Hause and Abraham
Fully compliant with regs and enough squad protection, thoughts ?
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Under-11s.
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Probably needs more debate leading into a later in the week pre match thread due to injuries, and more very important games thereafter so......
It’s mentioned to comply with EFL rules , strongest possible and minimum 14/18 match day squad should be present so here goes
Sarkic
Hutton Jedinak Elphick Taylor
Whelan
Green Lansbury Hourihan Albert
Davies
Bench; Steer, Grealish, Bjarnason, El Ghazi, Hause, Abraham, Tuanzebe
4 dropping out from Leeds squad are Mings, McGinn, Kodja and Elmo, replaced by Elphick, Davies, Hause and Abraham
Fully compliant with regs and enough squad protection, thoughts ?
I'd give both Hause & Abraham a run out Daz - Both would benefit from it. Probably shift Taylor & Keenan to the bench. Taylor needs a well deserved rest & Tammy needs a game after missing the last 2, even if he just plays 60 minutes.
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No Mings Jack or SJM
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Play Bolton’s under 18s. Or loan some players from New Brighton Tower FC.
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Stick the ladies team out - give the Holte End something to ogle at ( only joking ladies!)
I agree we need to rest McGinn Mings,Steer and Grealish
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Is Kalinic on the naughty step now, seems he hasn't been on the bench for about a month.
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Is Kalinic on the naughty step now, seems he hasn't been on the bench for about a month.
We’ve loaned him to Middlesbrough Ironopolis.
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Is Kalinic on the naughty step now, seems he hasn't been on the bench for about a month.
Injured.
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Is Kalinic on the naughty step now, seems he hasn't been on the bench for about a month.
Injured.
Ah yes I remember he picked something up with Croatia.
Hope not but let's say Steer is ruled out of play offs with what he picked up today and Nyland is long term then surely we have decent grounds to be allowed to get a loan keeper in at short notice?
Gabor Kiraly has retired now for those who have just broken into a cold sweat.
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The team from Blackburn 2017 seemed alright to me.
Bannan
The McGregor statue
Richards
Elphick
Legion
Topless Lad from yesterday
other lad from yesterday
Mad turnstile operator woman in the North Stand
My 7 year-old (now 9, presumably)
Cam
Wolfie
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The team from Blackburn 2017 seemed alright to me.
Bannan
The McGregor statue
Richards
Elphick
Legion
Topless Lad from yesterday
other lad from yesterday
Mad turnstile operator woman in the North Stand
My 7 year-old (now 9, presumably)
Cam
Wolfie
‘Other lad from yesterday’ picked up a yellow today so he’s suspended, unfortunately.
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All of the crown jewels need to be rested...Jack, SJM and Mings.
Axel and Tammy need a game to get up to speed after injury.
I'd also give Hutton half hour as he deserves a send off.
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Butler.
Nelson.
Ridgewell.
Stas.
Warnock.
Carr.
Burke.
Leonhardsen.
Paul Mortimer.
Balaban.
Guestede.
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Is Kalinic on the naughty step now, seems he hasn't been on the bench for about a month.
Injured.
Back training tomorrow according to Belgian journo. Won't be full training I suppose.
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Yes be sensible and give needed game time to anyone who is ready and might make a contribution to the play offs.
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Probably needs more debate leading into a later in the week pre match thread due to injuries, and more very important games thereafter so......
It’s mentioned to comply with EFL rules , strongest possible and minimum 14/18 match day squad should be present so here goes
Sarkic
Hutton Jedinak Elphick Taylor
Whelan
Green Lansbury Hourihan Albert
Davies
Bench; Steer, Grealish, Bjarnason, El Ghazi, Hause, Abraham, Tuanzebe
4 dropping out from Leeds squad are Mings, McGinn, Kodja and Elmo, replaced by Elphick, Davies, Hause and Abraham
Fully compliant with regs and enough squad protection, thoughts ?
I'd give both Hause & Abraham a run out Daz - Both would benefit from it. Probably shift Taylor & Keenan to the bench. Taylor needs a well deserved rest & Tammy needs a game after missing the last 2, even if he just plays 60 minutes.
Yep fair points re Abraham and Hause
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Is Kalinic on the naughty step now, seems he hasn't been on the bench for about a month.
He’s refusing to play until Footyskillz returns to the John McGinn thread.
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Regardless of the team Deano puts out (definitely without jack, SJM, Mings though) it will be great to watch a game with absolutely no pressure, nerves or tension.
We can save that for the week after.
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I'd like to see Hause given some game time at left back. He is one that could come back into the team for the play offs. Likely to be the final Villa game for a number of players, not the most talented but some solid pros in it. Hope they get a good send off.
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Hutton, Elphick, Jedinak, Hause
-----Lansbury, BB, Hourihane
-------Green, Davis, AA
Is Chester likely to be fit?
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Dean Smith will want to win the game. I expect him NOT to rest anyone, although SJM might be an obvious choice. I hope we have the likes of Abraham and Hause back as they will need a game to get ready for the Albion games.
On a side note, I'm pleased that Norwich are not champions because I don't want to give them the guard of honour!
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I hope we beat them and they finish second, fuck guards of honour or another club celebrating on our patch.
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No need to rest Steer unless he's injured; I would bring in Hutton at right back, and Hause at left back - to give Elmo and Taylor a rest, and to give them some game time. SJM obviously gets a rest, and probably Grealish too.
Steer; Hutton, Tuanzebe, Mings, Hause; Hourihane, Lansbury, Bjarnason; Green, Adomah, Davis.
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Definitely would take a few out of the firing line especially SJM, Jack, and TM they will be vital for the play offs.
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What happens realistically if Hause is fully fit for the play offs, he comes in for Taylor at left back i assume? Never thought id say this but would seem harse on Taylor who's played so well recently.
I also cant see Chester getting back into this team, unless Tuanzebe was moved out to right back.
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Axel, Elphick and Hause all need game time at CB so makes sense to rest Mings.
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I hope we beat them and they finish second, fuck guards of honour or another club celebrating on our patch.
This.
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Id play Lansbury and BB
rest Whelan , I think conor is fit enough to play this as well as any play off activity .
Green and AA and Kienan up front , he needs games .
Axel and Jedi at back with Taylor and Hutton :)
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I hope we beat them and they finish second, fuck guards of honour or another club celebrating on our patch.
Pretty sure they'll be a trophy presentation if they win the title. Just need a point to do that.
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When are the sky games announced or will get all be on red button ?
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Yes be sensible and give needed game time to anyone who is ready and might make a contribution to the play offs.
Totally agree with this CL. Hause would definitely be in that category, as would Elphick and perhaps even Hutton. Hourihane probably needs some game time as he would be the first in line to replace the first choice three, and Lansbury and maybe even Bjarnason could also do with playing time. Davis needs to start up front and I'm hoping he could be one who could have a mini-hot streak over the next couple of weeks. The wingers will be two from the three available choices.
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Leave as many first teamers out as we are allowed, basically.
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Kalinic
Hutton tuanzebe elphick hause
Bjarnason whelan lansbury
Adomah Davis Green
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Kalinic
Hutton tuanzebe elphick hause
Bjarnason whelan lansbury
Adomah Davis Green
Thats fine as long as 3 of the subs were in the squad v Dirty Leeds so maybe Jedi Sarkic and Taylor ?
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When are the sky games announced or will get all be on red button ?
I'd imagine they'll announce them after the midweek games. If the playoffs are still up for grabs I'd expect them to concentrate on those. If Derby secure a top six space before Sunday, Villa will be on telly as it will decide whether Norwich win the title.
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I don't understand the thread title.
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I don't understand the thread title.
Me neither but thought it might be H(ome) to Norwich
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Makes sense.
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Makes sense.
Might as well convert this into a proper pre-match thread
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Isn't Kalinic out for the rest of the season after a knee operation?
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I don't understand the thread title.
Me neither but thought it might be H(ome) to Norwich
I think it is something to do with Line of Duty.
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There is a fine line here between saving ourselves and offering us up as a sacrifice to Norwich who will want the title. A defeat won't be the end of the world and we are due one statistically but one would hope for a narrow loss, brave draw (as Leeds) or a win to send us all giddy.
I shall go for a barmy end of season 3-3.
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Don't think we are that good to make wholesale changes. Strongest possible team without taking unnecessary risks. Last thing we need is a big defeat going into the playoffs. Norwich will be looking to finish as Champions so will not take this lightly.
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Have we got any updates on our current injury list? Who's likely back or out for Sunday?
I'd like to see us field as strong as possible a side. We'll have the same rest as others, and with this and next week we've a chance to finish off the season with seven consecutive home wins. Norwich still have to confirm the title, I'd rather not see us hand it to them.
And it's our last chance to beat one of the top four this season.
GK, dunno, who's fit? Steer if he is.
Elmo (Hutton on when we're out of sight)
Chester (Elphick, ditto)
Hause
Taylor
Whelan
Lansbury
Grealish
Green
Abraham
Kodjia
The rest on the bench except McGinn. Summat like that.
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I don't understand the thread title.
Me neither but thought it might be H(ome) to Norwich
Correct - home , just thought as a consequence of the important games following this it warranted a longer time than usual pre match thread but was reluctant to call it that without upsetting the powers that be , so thanks for re naming 👍
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D 1-1.
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What a meaningless game. I really couldn’t care less whether Norwich or Sheff UTD win the league.
We can just sit back and enjoy watching most of the U23’s have an end of season run out.
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A win to see us nicely into the next three games
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Norwich just need a draw to secure top spot...I fully expect it to be played out like that with most of our first choice team hopefully rested.
0-0
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Us to win, Sheff Utd to win the title. Delia to steam on the pitch drunk.
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We won't be putting out anywhere near our strongest side (I assume) but I still fancy us to win this. 1-0.
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I shall go for a barmy end of season 3-3.
The final game at home in 1990 was on 28/04 against Norwich, and ended 3-3.
McGrath, Platt, Cascarino for us
Mountfield (og), Fox, Rosario for them.
That was horrible being on the Holte thinking how close we had been to winning the title.
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i see this just like the Brighton game two years ago - 1-1 in the sunshine. But of course I hope we fuck the fuckers and spoil their party.
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Pick any 11 to start from this squad for the match against the Canaries.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qd0qNFw/gettyimages-459983031-170667a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qd0qNFw)
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Steer
Hutton, Elphick, Chester, Hause
Lansbury, Thor, Hourihane
Green Davis Kodjia
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I reckon 1-1 draw.
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a draw for me....would love a win :)
UTV
The Doc
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As long as we get 0 in injuries and suspensions I’m not particularly bothered how many goals we score. Can’t we just all agree to draw 0-0?
They get the point they need to win the league and we get the point we need to guarantee 5th.
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As long as we get 0 in injuries and suspensions I’m not particularly bothered how many goals we score. Can’t we just all agree to draw 0-0?
They get the point they need to win the league and we get the point we need to guarantee 5th.
I'd go with that. The missus is a Norwich Fan (as are her family).
My brother is also a Norwich fan ( but in the 70's / 80's he was a Leeds fan. He "lapsed" when he realised that they were dirty scum). Started with Norwich as he wanted a team that no-one really hates.
Also rest some players for obvious reasons, but also some a run out, and certainly give Hutton a game.
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I shall go for a barmy end of season 3-3.
The final game at home in 1990 was on 28/04 against Norwich, and ended 3-3.
McGrath, Platt, Cascarino for us
Mountfield (og), Fox, Rosario for them.
That was horrible being on the Holte thinking how close we had been to winning the title.
That's where I got my inspiration from, I was on the Holte as well I can still feel the title drifting away, was Mountfields OG a chip over his own keeper (Spink?).
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I shall go for a barmy end of season 3-3.
The final game at home in 1990 was on 28/04 against Norwich, and ended 3-3.
McGrath, Platt, Cascarino for us
Mountfield (og), Fox, Rosario for them.
That was horrible being on the Holte thinking how close we had been to winning the title.
That's where I got my inspiration from, I was on the Holte as well I can still feel the title drifting away, was Mountfields OG a chip over his own keeper (Spink?).
I remember the feeling when it went in, but for the life of me I can't picture the goal itself. Norwich time-wasting virtually from the off, I remember that. When it kicked off, we could still win the league. A week later, we finished runners-up by 9 points, wasn't it? Made it look not as close a race as it had been.
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Well my only prediction is that I won't be on the pitch like I was after that 3-3. And I won't have my barnet either.
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We'll try to win, but not at any cost. They'll try to win, but not at any cost - draw.
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A fitting end to a frantic season, (not counting play-offs), would be for us to beat the new champions.
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A fitting end to a frantic season, (not counting play-offs), would be for us to beat the new champions.
but if we beat them, then they might not be champions, unless Sheff Utd dont beat stoke.
Champions elect I guess :D
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0-0.
Have we had a 0-0 this season?
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0-0.
Have we had a 0-0 this season?
Reading away, I think that's the only one.
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Pretty sure we haven't lost at home to this lot since Ugo made the worst debut ever.
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Pretty sure we haven't lost at home to this lot since Ugo made the worst debut ever.
If only he'd made a single appearance over a year before, I don't think it would have turned out the way it did.
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My favourite league game against Norwich. They had just been promoted and we left our top two scorers (Sir Brian & the Grader) in the stands.
https://www.11v11.com/matches/norwich-city-v-aston-villa-30-april-1975-117060/
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I hope we beat them and they finish second, fuck guards of honour or another club celebrating on our patch.
Yes, we held Brighton to a draw on the last day of the season at VP a couple of seasons ago and prevented them winning the Championship title.
If we get at least a draw on Sunday, it will also mean that no one got the double over us this season.
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2 2
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Squeaky 1-0
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2-2 draw. And given Norwich's record in recent weeks we will be 2-0 up and then they will score in the 94th and 97th minutes.
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Gone for a draw. Any result wouldn’t be a surprise though. Be nice if we could win to send a message to WBA, but in reality, it’s a pretty meaningless game. Would love a win, with a half-strength side. Take
a point though.
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Us to win, Sheff Utd to win the title. Delia to steam on the pitch drunk.
She has got previous:
Delia Steaming (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bop4rr6sUQo)
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Would like to give Chester a run out, if he's available.
Steer
Chester
Elphick
Hutton
Hause (if fit)
Jedinak
Barney
Lansbury
Green
Ramsay
Davis
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Think we will be half strength and get beat. At least it won't affect our league position.
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I would play:
Steer
Hause
Mings
Tuaznebe
Elmo
Whelan
Landsbury
Hourihane
El Ghazi
Tammy
Green
McGinn left out the squad completely and Jack on the bench.
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I don’t care who we put out as long as Hutton comes on at some point.
I fancy us to win 2-0 and then go onto beat Albion and Leeds.
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I shall go for a barmy end of season 3-3.
The final game at home in 1990 was on 28/04 against Norwich, and ended 3-3.
McGrath, Platt, Cascarino for us
Mountfield (og), Fox, Rosario for them.
That was horrible being on the Holte thinking how close we had been to winning the title.
That's where I got my inspiration from, I was on the Holte as well I can still feel the title drifting away, was Mountfields OG a chip over his own keeper (Spink?).
I remember the feeling when it went in, but for the life of me I can't picture the goal itself. Norwich time-wasting virtually from the off, I remember that. When it kicked off, we could still win the league. A week later, we finished runners-up by 9 points, wasn't it? Made it look not as close a race as it had been.
Yeah, absolutely that about the 9 pt gap. To be fair, I remember my Scouse mate saying exactly the same thing, that it had basically gone to wire and the final gap was ridiculous - was the same in 93 when Manyoo won by a similar margin but it had seemed really tight for ages (think we lost the last three). I was at that 3-3 against Naarwich, we played really well actually but with a couple of terrible defensive lapses. God scored.
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I would play:
Steer
Hause
Mings
Tuaznebe
Elmo
Whelan
Landsbury
Hourihane
El Ghazi
Tammy
Green
McGinn left out the squad completely and Jack on the bench.
I'd go along with that but with maybe Davis instead of Tammy.
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Green, El Ghazi, Davis is a pretty potent strike force.
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Green, El Ghazi, Davis is a pretty potent strike force.
As long as you don't expect any goals to be scored.
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Taylor, Elmo, Mings, Tuanzebe, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi, Kodjia, Abraham. All should be rested as we can't afford injuries to any of those. Doesn't bear thinking about having to go into the play offs with Hutton playing or without Mings and Tuanzebe.
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Who cares? I’d rest the key players for the semis.
Doubt he will though. Breather for everyone ahead of the Semis.
Just don’t lose.
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Green, El Ghazi, Davis is a pretty potent strike force.
Is that Andre or your good self ?
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Green, El Ghazi, Davis is a pretty potent strike force.
Is that Andre or your good self ?
I reckon Brian would be much more use than Andre has of late.
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Is it a red button option on sky ?
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Don't suppose anyone knows if the club shop is open after the match tomorrow?
Can't find answer on OS.
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Don't suppose anyone knows if the club shop is open after the match tomorrow?
Can't find answer on OS.
If you have money to spend...
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I don't see why it won't be open, it usually is on a Sunday when we play and tomorrow isn't a bank holiday or anything.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5pL4QFW0AAmsyc.png)
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Don't get injured. Don't get suspended. Agree a draw. Everyone home happy.
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Do we have anyone apart from McGinn at risk of suspension?
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Everyone is one red card away from suspension.
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Everyone is one red card away from suspension.
Very true. Let's keep Mings, Grealish and McGinn behind McCormack's gates.
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This game means fuck all. Yes a win would be nice BUT the most important thing is no injuries, no red cards.
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Is this game shown on AVTV does anybody know?
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Just watched Deano’s pre-match. The guy is so candid and open. I really hope he gets us promoted this season and we get to see what he can achieve in the PL next season. It will a real pisser if we miss out this time around.
I have this thing of assessing people, where I think, would I like to go for a beer with you? I reckon Deano would be great value having a chat to in the pub. Of some of our other recent managers, I’d have a drink with Bruce and McLeish, definitely. Maybe O’Neill, but that would be a bit intense and maybe not much fun and. Sherwood, no. Garde, meh. O’Leary definite no.
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First of all can’t believe the number of posts advertising resale of tickets for today on social media but let’s smash these never liked them since josh bond opened his big fat gob. Remember cannery killer Aston Villa xxxx. Night everyone see you in tonight he social later on
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Last time I saw Norwich at VP I saw Nigel Spinks knob!
Anyway 2-1 Villa win.
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Is this game shown on AVTV does anybody know?
It is, yes, mate.
Just purchased.
Up the Villa
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Last time I saw Norwich at VP I saw Nigel Spinks knob!
Anyway 2-1 Villa win.
I thought that we agreed that what goes on Grindr stays on Grindr?
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Come on Villa boys keep the unbeaten run going! Maybe today could be the start of another 4 game winning run. UTV!
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Last time I saw Norwich at VP I saw Nigel Spinks knob!
Anyway 2-1 Villa win.
And that was last season.
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I say we'll finish the season with more goals. A 2-2 draw. Adomah and Bjarnnason with ours.
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For me.
Steer
Hutton. Elphick Jedinak hause
Green jedinak Barney Lansbury
Davis kodja
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For me.
Steer
Hutton. Elphick Jedinak hause
Green jedinak Barney Lansbury
Davis kodja
‘There’s only two Mile Jedinaks’
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For me.
Steer
Hutton. Elphick Jedinak hause
Green jedinak Barney Lansbury
Davis kodja
‘There’s only two Mile Jedinaks’
For me.
Steer
Hutton. Elphick Jedinak hause
Green jedinak Barney Lansbury
Davis kodja
‘There’s only two Mile Jedinaks’
Oops.
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Let's hope the lap of appreciation today is a dress rehearsal for the lap of honour at Wembley, In a few weeks time
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i predict an entertaining - after a slow start - three apiece draw and norach lifting the trophy at the end.
Wouldn't normally bother with the lap thing since the fucking idiots booed Sir Graham, but after ten in a row I'm making an exception.
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Vanquishing
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I think after last Sunday, Deano could well stick Jedinak up front, as well as centre half and midfield.
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Let's hope the lap of appreciation today is a dress rehearsal for the lap of honour at Wembley, In a few weeks time
Surely it'll be on Saturday, as that is our last home game.
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned already, but there’s a little side note to today’s match.
If we shut out Pukki, and Tammy could find a hat trick from somewhere, they’d be level on goals and share the golden boot. Long shot I know, but would be a nice little reward for Tammy’s efforts with us this season. 💪🏼
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned already, but there’s a little side note to today’s match.
If we shut out Pukki, and Tammy could find a hat trick from somewhere, they’d be level on goals and share the golden boot. Long shot I know, but would be a nice little reward for Tammy’s efforts with us this season. 💪🏼
... even though he’ll probably be wrapped in cotton wool for the playoffs.
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Last time I saw Norwich at VP I saw Nigel Spinks knob!
I once saw the biggest knob of all at a Villa-Norwich game.
Some people also know him as Steve Hodge.
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has that weasel not since denied what he did? I was there, he was culpable and he knows it. I remember seeing grant friendtothestars pictured with him somewhere.