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Heroes & Villains => Tickets & Travel => Topic started by: wittonwarrior on April 27, 2019, 07:37:24 PM
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If it’s West Brom in the pissoffs then I’m definitely need someone’s help for the away leg even ticket in the home stands
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One ticket needed second leg baggies or Leeds - I only have 11 aways on my ref. Teach me about skipping the away scheme
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Any stand at the littlethorns will do.
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On sale from 5pm to away scheme members.
Allocation of 2000.
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On sale from 5pm to away scheme members.
Allocation of 2000.
They also make the point that only away season ticket holders and those with 18+ away games
are guaranteed tickets. Fortunately i'm in that 18+ category.
Why only 2000 did we do that to them??
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Yes. They've got 2,000 for VP.
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Are the additional 900 seats on sale to home fans at Villa Park?
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Just bought ours and there was less than 300 left.
The lay out is the usual 6 blocks, but the two at the front are netted off. It's an odd rule this reducing the away support malarkey.
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Just bought ours as well.
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I appreciate I'm at the back of a long queue but I'll take 1 if it's going. Will be driving up from London on the off chance anyway so please let me know.
Cheers
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These will sell out by 17:05 tomorrow. Gentlemen, start your servers.
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Any stand will do not desperate like - sure I was easier for a man city or Luton away when there were no tickets
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195 left for the 15+ awayers.
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I appreciate I'm at the back of a long queue but I'll take 1 if it's going. Will be driving up from London on the off chance anyway so please let me know.
Cheers
If anyone deserves to be high up the queue of worthy recipients it's Kingthing.
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1893 sold this far.
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Sold out.
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One ticket desperately needed
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1/2 needed for away leg. ST mate not enough always. Willing pay over odds too
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I’ve got nothing meaningful to add (in the short term). I think it’s very disappointing the way the club have given advantage to away season ticket holders. I personally have been to 18 aways and as such have a ticket, but if I were on 17 aways, paying £2 in booking fees per ticket I would be very annoyed. The away season ticket should have a minimum purchase requirement for games like this
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I've thought all along the away ticket scheme was a racket. Is it staying for next year?
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The overwhelming majority of away season ticket holders will go to every game, so rightly we get priority over the humans.
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Those who go to the majority of away games, rightly, got priority under the old system. Under the new Away Scheme system, this group had been bolstered by a number of fans who haven't been to as many away games as others, but have effectively been able to pay extra to jump the queue.
I've only been to a handful of away games this season, but if I'd spent forty quid (or whatever it was) on the Away Scheme membership I could have been afforded priority over those who had spent thousands more than me following Villa all over the country.
It's an unfair system, and the sort of naked profiteering that Brady would have done if Blose had ever had an away following that was less than pathetic.
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The good news is it’s to be revamped for next season. But still much disrespect to the most loyal fans has been shown by the villa. No attempt to move monitor and he scheme, rip off admin fee, deliberate queue jumping off
I didn’t join in principle but do regret it as have had to graft for one or two and no sight of a baggies 2nd leg ticket
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Those who go to the majority of away games, rightly, got priority under the old system. Under the new Away Scheme system, this group had been bolstered by a number of fans who haven't been to as many away games as others, but have effectively been able to pay extra to jump the queue.
I've only been to a handful of away games this season, but if I'd spent forty quid (or whatever it was) on the Away Scheme membership I could have been afforded priority over those who had spent thousands more than me following Villa all over the country.
It's an unfair system, and the sort of naked profiteering that Brady would have done if Blose had ever had an away following that was less than pathetic.
Agree with this- I did 15 away games last season and got a play off away ticket, I didn't want to pay £40 and didn't see why I should have too, this season I have done 12 aways so missed out on a play off away ticket, fair enough, but if fans (reading online so I know you have to be careful) have missed out on an away ticket attending 15 plus this season over those on the scheme who have attended far less than that, I feel the system is harsh and flawed
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I did 23 always last season, paid whatever it was and did 23 this season. Given how many we take to games and judging by how many we well in the first category of any away sales, it seems clear that the overwhelming majority of the away scheme go to all away games.
If you wanted to guarantee yourself an away ticket, you ought to have joined the away scheme.
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You've ignored all the points people have raised in opposition to the charge.
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I understand the point, but is there much evidence of it? The away scheme was around 900-1000 last season and was extended by 200 this term. We've only failed to sell out Norwich away, so is there much evidence of people buying a handful of tickets being in the away scheme?
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I understand the point, but is there much evidence of it? The away scheme was around 900-1000 last season and was extended by 200 this term. We've only failed to sell out Norwich away, so is there much evidence of people buying a handful of tickets being in the away scheme?
Only the club would be able to comment on that, everything else is just guess work, although I find it odd that the club would adjust the away scheme next season it were true the majority of the 1200 attended most/all away games
Also worth adding Hull, Blackburn and Boro were not sell outs, and plenty of games have gone to season ticket and booking history for away purchases
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Albion have scrapped their selling system now and their tickets are on sale to anyone with booking history, as they want to shift the remaining 2k+ tickets. I know someone with booking history with them, no membership etc and he got a ticket in the East Stand.
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I understand the point, but is there much evidence of it? The away scheme was around 900-1000 last season and was extended by 200 this term. We've only failed to sell out Norwich away, so is there much evidence of people buying a handful of tickets being in the away scheme?
Yes. A few people got a letter telling them they should be going to more matches earlier this season.
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I understand the point, but is there much evidence of it? The away scheme was around 900-1000 last season and was extended by 200 this term. We've only failed to sell out Norwich away, so is there much evidence of people buying a handful of tickets being in the away scheme?
Yes. A few people got a letter telling them they should be going to more matches earlier this season.
Presumably they were booted out of the scheme if they didn't.
Ultimately though, if you wanted to guarantee a ticket, you should have joined.
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Well, that's obviously true. It's a shame that you had to pay an extra forty quid on top of the already high expense that is incurred attending forty or so matches to do so.
The forty quid was, and remains, an unfair charge. If Ticketmaster, or whoever, charges a fiver on top of their tickets that's a rip off. Forty quid just to be likely to obtain tickets is a con.
As I said, I'd expect it from people like Karen Brady. I expect better from Aston Villa.
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You've always paid a fee, they just increased it by £15. I'd rather not pay a few, but I want to attend all the away games and definitely matches such as a week Tuesday, so the scheme caters for that.
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I cant quite recall but I believe I paid £25 renewal of the away scheme this season as they gave existing members a discount. The new system has some advantages but the ease of just giving your card details and the tickets just arriving was a great advantage previously, this time I have to remember to go and buy them...
I belived they were monitoring it for people abusing the system. My son ended up missing the first 3 away games this year as he started a new apprenticeship so was away for the first few weeks and they did send me a letter saying if he missed anymore they would look at his eligability but as he went to all the rest I have no idea if they ended up looking at anyone again. One of the big reasons they changed it in the first place was as they could not administer it (there words to me). I was over charged for approx 13 games last year by mistake, as they had incorrectly charged for 3 adult tickets rather than doing concessions as of course some games the concession catagories are different and they did not have a good way to differenciate.
I only caught it when I think Blackburn was £35 adult £1 child tickets and so the difference was quite large. As they had closed off the games I did not get a refund for any of them but got Middlesborough playoff tickets free as a goodwill gesture.
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I was annoyed that they'd changed it, but I've found choosing where I sit decent.
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I was annoyed that they'd changed it, but I've found choosing where I sit decent.
How good is the choice of choosing where you sit? Often, the first blocks released are not the best. I know people in the away scheme who waited for upstairs to go on sale at Bolton for example. Quite often, by the time I've been able to book, the away scheme members have been allocated blocks at the side rather than central.
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I was annoyed that they'd changed it, but I've found choosing where I sit decent.
How good is the choice of choosing where you sit? Often, the first blocks released are not the best. I know people in the away scheme who waited for upstairs to go on sale at Bolton for example. Quite often, by the time I've been able to book, the away scheme members have been allocated blocks at the side rather than central.
That is the difference usually they allocated the best areas first to the away scheme but that is not the case now so usually I wait for the block I want to become availalble.
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I was annoyed that they'd changed it, but I've found choosing where I sit decent.
How good is the choice of choosing where you sit? Often, the first blocks released are not the best. I know people in the away scheme who waited for upstairs to go on sale at Bolton for example. Quite often, by the time I've been able to book, the away scheme members have been allocated blocks at the side rather than central.
That is the difference usually they allocated the best areas first to the away scheme but that is not the case now so usually I wait for the block I want to become availalble.
I think that in the majority of cases, it is the home club who give directions on how tickets are sold. There are certainly benefits by being in the scheme but I don't think that choice comes into it. It's rare that an entire allocation goes on sale straight away.
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I like being on the end of a row. For the Albion, the child in me wanted to me next to the Stripey twats like I was for the league game.
I've found I've had good seats all season. It used to annoy me a little in the away scheme being allocated the upper tier/central stuff.
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Like Ads, I like being able to choose, and prefer aisle seats too so it works for me. Last season was shit because away season tickets were always allocated first, ie from the front rows back so most of the time the view was shit. This season has been loads better.
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I get this and if it works for you then great.
I don't understand how your choice is any greater than someone like me with 12 aways though? Surely you all go online as soon as the tickets become available? Therefore, unless you are quick or lucky, all of the aisle seats are reserved anyway. Often people reserve several different seats before deciding on which ones to actually buy. This impacts the "first come first serve" policy as well.
On quite a few occasions this season, I've managed to get aisle seats. It is as much about luck of the draw as it is having priority because the entire allocation rarely becomes available in one go.
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I've only been to around 10 away games this season and we've not really had a problem getting tickets for the games we've wanted to go to. I knew we didn't stand a chance for the Sandwell game though because people have been to more games and they get priority and that's the way it should be, not because you've laid down £40 for the privilege.
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Spot on clampy. Plus the fact is the villa changed the ball game as the pay to jump every queue was broadcast as league games only not cup or playoffs to be included a
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If you didn't join the scheme and you'd not been to 18 games...
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Give it up, mate. It's a racket. There's no excuse for it except taking money from fans.
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I’ll put my cards on the table as one of those who benefitted from his season’s scheme.
I always used to go to about 6-10 aways a season but gradually found that I never had enough aways to qualify for tickets. In recent seasons, when I have gone to an away game, it’s been on someone else’s reference, so the required booking history was never coming back - once you’re out, you’re out.
This season I have been to 8 - the exact average for my traditional level of away support. Enough to not be thrown off the scheme, & not enough to have been due a ticket for this game any other way.
For what it’s worth I believe there should be NO away scheme whatsoever. Just sell tickets to people who want to go to each game, and prioritise sales accordingly going forward. I have no problem with people who have BEEN to the most games getting the tickets. It’s how it should work.
I believe the ‘problem’ actually started with the previous away scheme. You could stay in as long as you returned no more than 3. So those in the scheme made sure they returned no more than 3 whether they were going or not. There are a number of Villa supporters who go to all or nearly all the aways, but not as many as it looked. It’s easy to return no more than 3 - they landed on the doormat & then got sold to people like me that want to get to a few away games but can never accumulate the booking history.
I think if we returned to a NO away scheme system, there would still be a few people who would buy to keep their history up even for games they knew they wouldn’t be at, but it wouldn’t be as many as it was when they just arrived at your house & the money had already gone out. Tickets would go back to being allocated to those who GO to the most games - which is how it should be. Those of us who like to go to aways but not all of them, keep track of sales criteria, & try to keep up with the bottom line if we can. That’s what I always used to do.
The money Villa make from running an away scheme of any sort is a drop in the ocean in football terms. Although I know we need to be money conscious as a club, the amounts involved in either scheme are not worth pissing fans off for.
I have just moved to Lancashire this weekend so I have really valued the opportunity to be able to go to away games when I have wanted to this year. I will hopefully still get to some, but for away trips the travel with fellow fans is a big part of the experience - so I have been able to do that this year & have loved it.
....& I do feel bad that I have a ticket for this game ahead of people that have been to more aways than me, but not bad enough to give it up I’m afraid. There will be people there who deserve to be there less than me, so any thought of giving it up is quickly dismissed from my mind! This is both in terms of those who have been in the scheme and only been to one or two (who have abused it for just the big games), & in terms of the fact that I have been a more active supporter of the club in other ways. I am taking up my place at The Hawthorns and I promise I will give them hell!
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I can only agree with all that is said above. The away scheme is always sort of forgotten about until really late on by Villa so every year it seems to get rushed out.
This year the admin has been better. last year I got no emails of confirmation what hasd been taken out and when so it got really confusing as the games did not get debited in logical order but this year has been open to a bit of abuse but I imagine that is always the case.
I am sure whatever they do someone will moan about it but I am sure there is a better way. I am not sure re other clubs but I imagine all clubs run similar and I imagine all charge a yearly fee. It will be interested if next year they run a reduced admin fee ( £25 for existing members rather than £40 for new) as they did last year. I did actually ask for a meeting last year after the problems I ran into but of course at the time there was chaos at the club so I imagine it was way down the pecking order. As there is certainly more stability at the club irrespective of what league we are in I would hope they plan and roll it out a bit better.
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I’ll put my cards on the table as one of those who benefitted from his season’s scheme.
I always used to go to about 6-10 aways a season but gradually found that I never had enough aways to qualify for tickets. In recent seasons, when I have gone to an away game, it’s been on someone else’s reference, so the required booking history was never coming back - once you’re out, you’re out.
This season I have been to 8 - the exact average for my traditional level of away support. Enough to not be thrown off the scheme, & not enough to have been due a ticket for this game any other way.
For what it’s worth I believe there should be NO away scheme whatsoever. Just sell tickets to people who want to go to each game, and prioritise sales accordingly going forward. I have no problem with people who have BEEN to the most games getting the tickets. It’s how it should work.
I believe the ‘problem’ actually started with the previous away scheme. You could stay in as long as you returned no more than 3. So those in the scheme made sure they returned no more than 3 whether they were going or not. There are a number of Villa supporters who go to all or nearly all the aways, but not as many as it looked. It’s easy to return no more than 3 - they landed on the doormat & then got sold to people like me that want to get to a few away games but can never accumulate the booking history.
I think if we returned to a NO away scheme system, there would still be a few people who would buy to keep their history up even for games they knew they wouldn’t be at, but it wouldn’t be as many as it was when they just arrived at your house & the money had already gone out. Tickets would go back to being allocated to those who GO to the most games - which is how it should be. Those of us who like to go to aways but not all of them, keep track of sales criteria, & try to keep up with the bottom line if we can. That’s what I always used to do.
The money Villa make from running an away scheme of any sort is a drop in the ocean in football terms. Although I know we need to be money conscious as a club, the amounts involved in either scheme are not worth pissing fans off for.
I have just moved to Lancashire this weekend so I have really valued the opportunity to be able to go to away games when I have wanted to this year. I will hopefully still get to some, but for away trips the travel with fellow fans is a big part of the experience - so I have been able to do that this year & have loved it.
....& I do feel bad that I have a ticket for this game ahead of people that have been to more aways than me, but not bad enough to give it up I’m afraid. There will be people there who deserve to be there less than me, so any thought of giving it up is quickly dismissed from my mind! This is both in terms of those who have been in the scheme and only been to one or two (who have abused it for just the big games), & in terms of the fact that I have been a more active supporter of the club in other ways. I am taking up my place at The Hawthorns and I promise I will give them hell!
About sums it up to a tee.
Now can we get on with my begging anyone with a spare for Tuesday
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Still on the absolute beg for Tuesday.......
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Everything else sorted just need ticket