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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: BlackCountryVilla on March 30, 2019, 08:46:28 PM
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Not sure if this warrants a new thread! Feel free to merge if need be.
Do we have a chance?
I am starting to think that we do. Most of the people downstairs at half time in the Holte are starting to believe. I know we're all biased but who knows. Are we putting a run together at exactly the time ?
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No it doesn't !
And obviously we do !
This another reason I not posting til may here -pointless threads ,. Not enough to thought .
Up the villa
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Sorry black country villain you have every right to start a new thread.
Sorry being terse I'm having a mini episode as mother's Day tomorrow always get a bit annoyed and emotional as miss her andshoukdnt be so rude on here. I have a break anyway . I have my self employment forms to do Which also annoying me .Good for you posting. Cya
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Would you like to bet against us?
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Being greedy I'd like to see Derby make 6th.
We match up so well against them and there's a chance they could take out a deflated Sheffield United over two legs if they finish 3rd.
That's the sort of opposition I'd actually be very confident of beating in a play off final, less so Leeds or Sheffield United themselves.
Long way to go before all that.
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All bookies now have us odds on to make the play offs.
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/top-6-finish
Most bookies now have us between 4/1 and 5/1 to go up.
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/promotion
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Would you like to bet against us?
This....
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We have a chance but it is still a long hard run in, it’s like we need to keep winning because there are so many so close that you would think, at least 2 will have a very strong run as teams seem to win and lose in clusters.
We have gone from the season over to right back in it.
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Bristol City having two games in hand is annoying.
We have a chance... A very slim one.
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Bristol City having two games in hand is annoying.
We have a chance... A very slim one.
The bookies are disagreeing with you.
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Of course we've got a chance, we're 5th with 7 to play.
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The teams below us have games in hand. We have the points on the board. Everything to play for.
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Bristol City having two games in hand is annoying.
We have a chance... A very slim one.
We are in the play off positions. We are the form team. There are a lot of games between the teams below us to come. That equates to better than a slim chance in my view.
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Bristol have to come to Villa Park so we have the opportunity to nullify one of their games in hand ourselves.
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Bristol have to come to Villa Park so we have the opportunity to nullify one of their games in hand ourselves.
They are at Boro on tiesday, huge game.
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That’s the key game. Win it, which we should, and we can rely on them to make the one cock up we need. If we bottle it we hand it to them.
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The way we are playing definitely.
I do think it will take winning 5 out of our last 7 though. Hopefully Leeds and Norwich will both be up by the time we play them
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The one big advantage we have is that our top players - Grealish, Mings, McGinn - have all played less games than their play-off counterparts.
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McGinn has played 41 games this season, good point though we've a fair few others that should be fresher at the tail end of the season than a lot of players will be.
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As well as us Bristol also have to play Boro, Albion, Wednesday and Derby, all competing for a play off place. It's going to be tough to win all of those.
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We've a decent chance, so have a number of other teams it as to be said. I do believe though that if we have all our main players fit that we can dismantle any side in this division.
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We've got more than a chance, we're absolutely going up.
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Yep Tuesday is an important big game day for us and we're not even playing.
This will be the game in hand for Boro and one of the games in hand for Bristol. On paper, Boro have an easy run in so the best result we can hope for is a draw with both teams dropping 2pts. Bristol then have to come to VP so if we win that then it will effectively cancel out their game in hand.
I can see each of Boro, Bristol and Derby dropping points (even in games they should win), but (and stating the obvious) we just have to keep taking each game as it comes and winning...we don't want to be going in to the Leeds and Norwich games needing wins.
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Shhhhh, don't tell me missus, but I've just pre-booked a hotel room down in that London for one night, 27th of May.
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We've got more than a chance, we're absolutely going up.
Fuck yes!
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Obviously nobody has a crystal ball to tell if we'll go up, and sure as fk if I start making predictions, I'll jinx us, so gonna keep my gob shut. Just great that we're still in with a good chance at this stage, after it was all looking so abject a few months back.
With Bruce gone and our recent form, compared to same time last season, seems a completely different prospect now. How good is it to see a league table with form guide next to it and see us top 6 with 5 green win bars? Only Norwich have comparable form. And probably our best form of the season.
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https://youtu.be/7qrkkdYEmZA
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One game at a time. Take nothing for granted. We can be fantastic but we can also be dire. When we are fantastic, we are as good as any other team.
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One game at a time. Take nothing for granted. We can be fantastic but we can also be dire. When we are fantastic, we are as good as any other team.
One game at at time....we can !
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Seems to be between 8 for the last 2 play-off places. Bristol and Boro with games in hand. 7 games to go, 21 points. Run-in is...…..eventful to say the least
3 games at home - two against teams in promotion mix/automatic promotion, 1 against a team fighting for survival.
4 games away - two against teams in promotion mix/automatic promotion, 2 against teams fighting for survival
Well if we do it, no-one can say it isn't deserved.
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Boro's game in hand is against Bristol tomorrow night.
If they draw and we beat Bristol at home, it wipes out the games in hand advantage they have over us.
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The other thing that could help us is Norwich should be promoted by the time we play them and Bolton should be relegated. Millwall could possibly be safe and leeds could possibly be promoted, although playing teams with nothing to play for doesn't always work to your advantage.
Actually, looking at it, think both Millwall and bolton will still have something to play for when we turn up
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Bristol City having two games in hand is annoying.
We have a chance... A very slim one.
Ipswich still had a game in hand to play in 1981. But by the time they played it and lost to Southampton we had already had our civic reception and our players were all on beaches somewhere. ;)
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We're hitting form at just the right time. We have a squad big enough to last the season. My only doubt right now is should we play Albion at home or away first? Right now I'd go for a first leg at the Whorethorns and bring them back to a Villa Park to bury them.
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I'd take our current form and position over Bristol "one win in the last 5" City's games in hand any day of the week
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We're hitting form at just the right time. We have a squad big enough to last the season. My only doubt right now is should we play Albion at home or away first? Right now I'd go for a first leg at the Whorethorns and bring them back to a Villa Park to bury them.
Let us hope Albion have used up all their luck already this season. A blatant hand ball goal against us and the penalty miss of the decade by the Swansea player. In the live games I have seen them play on SKY they have certainly seemed to have more than their fair share.
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One thing I do know is that the others will be more worried about us than anyone else in the pack.
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One thing I do know is that the others will be more worried about us than anyone else in the pack.
Listening to Radio 5 over the weekend and that Clem fella ( North Eastern, lower league correspondent) said the same. Nobody would want to face us over 2 legs, the form we're in
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No, no, no, we have no chance, it's not gonna happen, I can't let myself get carried away, we won't do it.........
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We're hitting form at just the right time. We have a squad big enough to last the season. My only doubt right now is should we play Albion at home or away first? Right now I'd go for a first leg at the Whorethorns and bring them back to a Villa Park to bury them.
On the basis that we're unlikely to make fourth, the first leg will be at home. Probably on the Friday or Saturday after the Norwich game.
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I'd take our current form and position over Bristol "one win in the last 5" City's games in hand any day of the week
Bristol have 5 games in 15 days including Saturdays win over Sheffield United. The 5th game is against us so hopefully they'll be sh@gged by then!
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Good, give their ungracious prick of a manager something to whinge about.
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I reckon that if you asked any of the other teams competing for a play-off spot which team they would most like to avoid, we would probably top the poll as the most-feared team.
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I'd take our current form and position over Bristol "one win in the last 5" City's games in hand any day of the week
Bristol have 5 games in 15 days including Saturdays win over Sheffield United. The 5th game is against us so hopefully they'll be sh@gged by then!
Good point and they'll certainly have done well to come out of those 5 fixtures unscathed:
Sat 30th March: Sheff Utd (A) - won 2-3 (fcukin Weimann!!!)
Tues 2nd April: Boro (A)
Sat 6th April: Wigan (H)
Tues 9th April: Baggies (H)
Sat 13th April: Villa (A)
Let's not forget that we still need to take care of business away at both Sheff Weds (Saturday) and Rotherham (Wednesday) before Bristol come to Villa Park.
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I'd take our current form and position over Bristol "one win in the last 5" City's games in hand any day of the week
Bristol have 5 games in 15 days including Saturdays win over Sheffield United. The 5th game is against us so hopefully they'll be sh@gged by then!
Good point and they'll certainly have done well to come out of those 5 fixtures unscathed:
Sat 30th March: Sheff Utd (A) - won 2-3 (fcukin Weimann!!!)
Tues 2nd April: Boro (A)
Sat 6th April: Wigan (H)
Tues 9th April: Baggies (H)
Sat 13th April: Villa (A)
Let's not forget that we still need to take care of business away at both Sheff Weds (Saturday) and Rotherham (Wednesday) before Bristol come to Villa Park.
In Deano we trust. At least we will now have a plan for each game and we have a squad to do a bit of rotation. We're on a roll and may take some stopping :)
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We most certainly can do it. We just need to keep winning. Two tough aways coming up for different reasons. If we get six points out of those we are laughing.
I can also report that the stripy twat that works for me is shitting his trousers about playing us in the play offs.
"If you beat us at Wembley I don't think I could face going to football again". I reassured him that they wont get to Wembley as we would shit on them on their own patch a week or so before.
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Good, give their ungracious prick of a manager something to whinge about.
Amen, he's a right little prick.
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Keep calm and carry on. Let us not get ahead of ourselves.
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Good, give their ungracious prick of a manager something to whinge about.
Amen, he's a right little prick.
I don't actually like anyone apart from me but can't recall that short, squeaky little tit offending me before. That said, I am probably wrong and have to write something for the fanzine later. Why should I hate one of The Clangers?
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If we keep our key players fit and carry on playing with the same organization and spirit, we should go all the way.
The main stumbling blocks would be over-confidence or panic setting in when the pressure is on and expectations are high. We have the right manager to make sure this doesn't happen.
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The day we play Leeds... Derby play Bristol City. This one's got more turns in it than the Stelvio pass.
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The main stumbling blocks are injuries
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I posted on a different thread last week re my results guessing and it seems more appropriate to give the first weekends update ;
All fixtures for 4th to 10th teams at the time written down, and this week I only had 3 correct, boro losing with us and derby winning. Ones that I had wrong were Preston winning, Bristol drawing, Sheff Wed winning and forest drawing.
So all in all some better and some worse than my predictions.
I hope I’m spot on with tonight’s game of a draw between boro and Bristol that’s prob the best result for us.
After all of my guesses we finished in 7th a point behind derby, let’s hope I’ve got that wrong too !!
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
A glitch with the apostrope when posting with an iPhone.
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
A glitch with the apostrophe when posting with an iPhone.
Oh great! This will stop me from posting on H and V whilst sitting on the shitter at work!! Grrrrrr. (I corrected your spelling too BTW) ;-)
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
A glitch with the apostrophe when posting with an iPhone.
Oh great! This will stop me from posting on H and V whilst sitting on the shitter at work!! Grrrrrr. (I corrected your spelling too BTW) ;-)
Phones must be covered in disgusting microbes these days. It'll probably make us healthier in the long run.
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
A glitch with the apostrophe when posting with an iPhone.
Oh great! This will stop me from posting on H and V whilst sitting on the shitter at work!! Grrrrrr. (I corrected your spelling too BTW) ;-)
Phones must be covered in disgusting microbes these days. It'll probably make us healthier in the long run.
I try very hard not to poo on it Mike, honestly!
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
A glitch with the apostrophe when posting with an iPhone.
Oh great! This will stop me from posting on H and V whilst sitting on the shitter at work!! Grrrrrr. (I corrected your spelling too BTW) ;-)
Bloody Android! #faceofshame
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
Let him be specific.
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Beyond me all this tech change... and why is my screen set out/layout now different I on iPad compared to usual version on iPhone ?
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
Elmohamady is a new moderator.
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Got Derby finishing on 71 points. We should be well capable of getting that as our GD is miles better than what they have even after their 6-1 win.
Have to say that's outstanding from Bristol City to win back to back aways like that. In fairness they play decent football so as a neutral I'd rather have them in top 6 than a boring team like Boro.
Game at VP will be key to the run in.
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Plenty to happen yet. We just need to look after our business. Another 4/5 wins and we'll 'be there or there abouts'. Have the daffodils sprouted? Let's see where we are when the blue bells hit full bloom.
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What's with the hieroglyphics? :-)
Hieroglyphics is Greek to me.
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Got Derby finishing on 71 points. We should be well capable of getting that as our GD is miles better than what they have even after their 6-1 win.
Have to say that's outstanding from Bristol City to win back to back aways like that. In fairness they play decent football so as a neutral I'd rather have them in top 6 than a boring team like Boro.
Game at VP will be key to the run in.
yes Bristol gained 4 more points than I anticipated over last 2 games, so my revised end of season has Bristol finishing 5th on 75, boro 6th on 75 (maybe too enthusiastic on current form ), derby 7th on 73 and ourselves 8th on 72
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Next to no chance of Boro getting 75. Who the hell do you have them beating Daz?! I can see them losing at Forest, 0-0 v Stoke and also losing at Swansea from a quick glance of what they've got left. Scored 2 goals in their last six games.
Derby got a better chance but 5 of their last 8 are away and they haven't won an away game since December 29th so issues there.
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Bristol have pulled those 2 wins out of nowhere. 7 teams chasing the last 2 playoff spots really. Can't afford to lose v Sheff Wed anyway.
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We can't be afford to be dropping points at this stage of the season. This weekends fixtures that matter:
Bristol vs Wigan
Swansea vs Boro
Sheff Weds vs Villa
Rotherham vs Forest
Preston vs Sheff Utd
Brentford vs Derby
If we do our job and get the 3pts on Saturday then I can see the chasing pack shrinking to 5 teams with Sheff Weds and Preston dropping 6/7pts behind respectively. Expect Bristol and Forest to get wins, but Boro and Derby both have tricky away fixtures.
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We just have to keep winning.
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Next to no chance of Boro getting 75. Who the hell do you have them beating Daz?! I can see them losing at Forest, 0-0 v Stoke and also losing at Swansea from a quick glance of what they've got left. Scored 2 goals in their last six games.
Derby got a better chance but 5 of their last 8 are away and they haven't won an away game since December 29th so issues there.
It's always the way at times like this, it's hard to not see your peers as world beaters all of a sudden! Bet we're all guilty of it to a certain extent.
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Next to no chance of Boro getting 75. Who the hell do you have them beating Daz?! I can see them losing at Forest, 0-0 v Stoke and also losing at Swansea from a quick glance of what they've got left. Scored 2 goals in their last six games.
Derby got a better chance but 5 of their last 8 are away and they haven't won an away game since December 29th so issues there.
Boro...draw away to swans, win away at Bolton, win at home to hull , win at home to stoke, draw at home to forest, win at home to reading, win away at Rotherham.
I think their fixture difficulty is easier than their form and could still be realistic for 75 pts
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And this miraculous form comes from where for Boro?
They've lost 5 on the spin, don't score goals, they're not missing key players and have Pulis in charge.
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I've said since the start of the season we would make the play offs and I'm sticking to that the form we are in at the moment I'm feeling very confident that we will go one step further than last season we have players in form who have played less than our rivals and that's got to be an advantage for us.
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It's Bristol City, not Bristol. Maybe i should put this in the Things That Annoy Me thread but it really does annoy me when people call them Bristol.
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It's Bristol City, not Bristol. Maybe i should put this in the Things That Annoy Me thread but it really does annoy me when people call them Bristol.
Wow I bet boro, swans and villa freak you out too then ?
Many apologies from my posts, didn’t think Bristol needed clarification as they’re the only Bristol team in our division. If generalising about football I would have used Bristol City to differentiate to Rovers.
Anyway back to the the thread topic now I’ve apologised
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
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...it really does annoy me when people call them Bristol.
Too right, it's Brizzle.
Anyway, it's nothing compared to national broadcasters referring to United and City like they're the only clubs in the land with that moniker.
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...it really does annoy me when people call them Bristol.
Too right, it's Brizzle.
Anyway, it's nothing compared to national broadcasters referring to United and City like they're the only clubs in the land with that moniker.
whenever I meet someone new and they find out I support the Villa I always ask them who they support and if they ever say City/Yanited then I always ask which one ? and I love the way they look at me as if I should already know who they are referring to...:)
UTV
The Doc
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And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Must admit that I like Pep.
*waves to CD*
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It's Bristol City, not Bristol. Maybe i should put this in the Things That Annoy Me thread but it really does annoy me when people call them Bristol.
Wow I bet boro, swans and villa freak you out too then ?
Many apologies from my posts, didn’t think Bristol needed clarification as they’re the only Bristol team in our division. If generalising about football I would have used Bristol City to differentiate to Rovers.
Anyway back to the the thread topic now I’ve apologised
I'm with you Daz...it's all about context, so it's blatantly obvious we're talking about Bristol City so no need for being pedantic.
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It's Bristol City, not Bristol. Maybe i should put this in the Things That Annoy Me thread but it really does annoy me when people call them Bristol.
Wow I bet boro, swans and villa freak you out too then ?
Many apologies from my posts, didn’t think Bristol needed clarification as they’re the only Bristol team in our division. If generalising about football I would have used Bristol City to differentiate to Rovers.
Anyway back to the the thread topic now I’ve apologised
I'm with you Daz...it's all about context, so it's blatantly obvious we're talking about Bristol City so no need for being pedantic.
👍🏻🤣🤣
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
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Next to no chance of Boro getting 75. Who the hell do you have them beating Daz?! I can see them losing at Forest, 0-0 v Stoke and also losing at Swansea from a quick glance of what they've got left. Scored 2 goals in their last six games.
Derby got a better chance but 5 of their last 8 are away and they haven't won an away game since December 29th so issues there.
Boro...draw away to swans, win away at Bolton, win at home to hull , win at home to stoke, draw at home to forest, win at home to reading, win away at Rotherham.
I think their fixture difficulty is easier than their form and could still be realistic for 75 pts
Could happen but for example Reading and Rotherham will probably be fighting hard to stay up so don't think six points is a lock from their last two at all.
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Boro did actually play well last night and should have won. I wouldn't write them off yet. They still smell though.
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Boro did actually play well last night and should have won. I wouldn't write them off yet. They still smell though.
I wouldn't, either. Dean Smith said they created plenty of decent chances in the games prior to our recent encounter. Maybe Pulis will change his ways in an act of desperation or Boro will axe him for the same reason.
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Next to no chance of Boro getting 75. Who the hell do you have them beating Daz?! I can see them losing at Forest, 0-0 v Stoke and also losing at Swansea from a quick glance of what they've got left. Scored 2 goals in their last six games.
Derby got a better chance but 5 of their last 8 are away and they haven't won an away game since December 29th so issues there.
One down...pretty sure you're Welsh based Daz so hope you enjoyed Swansea getting Pulis a schooling!
Was a really good day for us wasn't it? Derby and Bristol both winning until the last few minutes, Preston's great run seems to have ground to a halt aswell.
Think 3 wins v Rotherham, Bolton and Millwall and point v Bristol City will be enough now. Last two games won't matter apart from not picking up any injuries/suspensions.
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
Doesn’t help. I give up
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
Doesn’t help. I give up
I’d tell you but it would spoil the fun
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
Doesn’t help. I give up
I’d tell you but it would spoil the fun
I’ll try and work it out when I haven’t been drinking
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
Doesn’t help. I give up
I’d tell you but it would spoil the fun
I’ll try and work it out when I haven’t been drinking
You’ll kick yourself. It’s very juvenile
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Suddenly we are in a great position, even if Derby win their game in hand, they have to score ten to get ahead of us. We are 5 ahead of Boro too and yet to play Bristol City at home. No complacency at all please Dean, one game at a time, no more false dawns.
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Next midweek games look very favourable to us
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I'd like our playoff spot secured before we play Leeds and Norwich, but Bristol vs Derby on the same day we travel to Leeds could have a bearing on final places. We could end up catching Baggies at this rate but other than bragging rights that would just be a bonus as we'd still end up playing them in the playoffs...actually, I think the home leg would be second though so may possibly worth chasing?
Any ideas when the EFL will announce dates for playoff games...I have a couple of holidays to book the inconsiderate bastards! :D
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
Doesn’t help. I give up
I’d tell you but it would spoil the fun
I’ll try and work it out when I haven’t been drinking
You’ll kick yourself. It’s very juvenile
Google has rescued me I reckon. Dicks must go
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
Doesn’t help. I give up
I’d tell you but it would spoil the fun
I’ll try and work it out when I haven’t been drinking
You’ll kick yourself. It’s very juvenile
Google has rescued me I reckon. Dicks must go
“We want Dicks out” Arthur Cox managed Derby
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Rovers and City; a pair of Bristols.
Love it 👍🏻🤣🤣
And City have a proper little tit in charge of them.
Imagine being a Bristol City fan in the 1970s singing that you want your manager sacked.
Very good
You have to be at least 50 to get that.
I got it...
I’m older but didn’t 🤔
Derby County couldn’t have sung it either
Doesn’t help. I give up
I’d tell you but it would spoil the fun
I’ll try and work it out when I haven’t been drinking
You’ll kick yourself. It’s very juvenile
Google has rescued me I reckon. Dicks must go
“We want Dicks out” Arthur Cox managed Derby
Shit. I've had a few tonight in celebration, but I thought this quotathon was an optical illusion
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I think it's 2 places between us, Derby and Bristol City now. None of the teams below 7th are on a run, but could still go on one. In any case, if we can get 76 points (4wins and a draw) none of them can catch us, even Boro, given our goal difference. The game against Bristol City is a real six pointer.
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Brizzol must be pissed off. To go and win at Sheff U and Boro only to draw at home to Wigan is a real pisser.
Oh well.
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Great thing about today’s win is the confidence it gives the team to keep going for victory. Norwich won about 3 or 4 matches by coming back in the last 10 minutes in December and Jan and never looked back since.
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Nicked. Now my iPhone screensaver. Ta
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Checking the table now, it is very much looking like a 3 horse race for the last 2 places.
Certainly from our point of view, it is difficult to envisage Boro or Forest winning 2 more games than us in the final 6 to be played. If we win 3, Boro & Forest have to win 5 and even then, a draw for us out of the other 3 would still see us ahead of them. Realistically, (based on us winning 3 more games) Boro or Forest need to win all of their remaining fixtures to catch us.
I'm convinced that if we finish ahead of either Derby or Bristol, then we are going to end up in the top 6.
If we can match Bristol's result in midweek, a draw would not be the end of the world on Saturday - A win would see us 5 points clear of them as well with 4 games left for us, 5 for them.
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If we make the play offs, and it’s looking more likely, is the opposition better this year than last? Even more importantly, are we better than last year. Personally, I think the answer is yes to both questions and that makes life even more exciting. DFU Villa!
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I remember the date, February 16th. The only home game I've missed and it was against The Bitters as I was watching Slash in Manchester.
Sat in a hotel, listening to us getting whopped at home, the crowd beginning to turn, reading after about the toxic atmosphere in parts of the ground. Team looking toothless.
The play offs were a distant dream, it wasn't going to happen.
What a difference six weeks can make!!!!
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At the moment, we've got the momentum that Fulham had last season. I don't fear anyone in the play offs now Grealish is back. My god we missed him when he was injured but the difference since he came back. Quiet game yesterday for him, but when he picked up that ball before the second goal, you just knew what would happen.
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Grealish had a quiet game but still created the openings that led to the late goals.
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as others have said it looks increasingly like 2 places and three teams fighting it out for them
Villa, Derby and Bristol C
Bristol have by far the hardest run in and Derby have the easiest
if we can beat Bristol City at Villa park we would have one foot in the play offs
I don’t care who we play,
i would be a million percent more confident of going up than I was last time
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If we make the play offs, and it’s looking more likely, is the opposition better this year than last? Even more importantly, are we better than last year. Personally, I think the answer is yes to both questions and that makes life even more exciting. DFU Villa!
Without doubt the opposition is stronger and we have the disadvantage of away leg last in the semis if we get there.
It’s still a huge challenge.
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If we play the Baggies they aren’t great at home. We can certainly do them at their place and they’ll know it.
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Hang on we’re only 7 points off the Baggies and I don’t fancy their next 2 games. #Believe.
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Not sure who would be harder out of Leeds, t'Blades or WBA. Sheff Utd are more dogged but less skilled, the other two can be flaky.
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On current form, system and players available I don't fear anyone.
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I know I am getting ahead of myself but I would rather Leeds go up automatically as they are the team I would be most concerned about in the play offs.
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Personally I'd be more concerned playing Sheff U given how those games have gone this season. If we keep up our current form though everyone will be fearing us.
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Hang on we're only 7 points off the Baggies and I don't fancy their next 2 games. #Believe.
Preaching to the choir here, mate. I'm backing us to take care of our own business, so I'll be hoping The Robins do them on Tuesday. And do them by a few, too. Reel that GD in a bit.
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In terms of whether we will make the playoffs in the first place, I'm feeling very confident at the moment. Think we will drop points before the end of the season just from law of averages as much as anything. Don't think a couple of draws will do us too much harm as no chance Derby or Bristol City are winning out.
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For me, it is in our own hands so we really don't need to worry about other results. That said, as football fans, we all do. Logically, we do what we need to do and the other results don't matter. We only need concern ourselves with other results if we don't win our own games (minimum 3, preferably 4).
The Bristol game worries me. We are on a fantastic run but all fantastic runs come to an end. Sitting here today, a point wouldn't be the end of the world because it cancels out another chance for them to overtake us.
Regarding the play offs, we are going to be facing 2 very good sides, regardless. I suspect we'll meet WBA over 2 legs and that if we can beat them, we'll face one of Bristol, Leeds or Sheff U in the final. Out of the 3, I would prefer to avoid Sheff U - For some reason, we seem to struggle against them. I'm hoping that Leeds are beginning to run out of steam. They had a grueling pre-season and have played through with a relatively small squad. I also think that Bristol are capable of beating either Leeds or Sheff U over 2 legs and getting to Wembley - Another reason why I'd settle for a draw next week and a victory in the play off final.
Anyway, I've allowed myself a little dream - Now back to reality and the boring principle of 1 game at a time.
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I know I am getting ahead of myself but I would rather Leeds go up automatically as they are the team I would be most concerned about in the play offs.
Yes for me as well. I allowed myself to indulge in playoff possibilities last night and thought we need to avoid Leeds. However just imagine how much of a let down it will be for them to be involved in playoffs after dominating the League all season?
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100% that. I would love to play Leeds because A. It would mean they have already run out of juice, B. They would be massively demotivated as mentioned and C. I hate them and would love to hand them their arses on our way up.
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I know I am getting ahead of myself but I would rather Leeds go up automatically as they are the team I would be most concerned about in the play offs.
Yes for me as well. I allowed myself to indulge in playoff possibilities last night and thought we need to avoid Leeds. However just imagine how much of a let down it will be for them to be involved in playoffs after dominating the League all season?
Why worry about Leeds? Even the noses have done the double over them!! ;)
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If the Stripes hadn't beat Small Heath I'd fancy our chances of overtaking them but seven points in six game is a lot of work to do. Before yesterday I said that five wins from seven should get us into the play-offs; now it's four from six. If we don't beat Rotherham, Millwall and Bolton we don't deserve to go up and yesterday's results mean that Bristol City is a don't-lose rather than a must-win. Which leaves Leeds, who as we've seen are definitely beatable and on the last day Norwich, who should have the title sewn up by then. For the first time this season it's in our own hands now.
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Brizzol must be pissed off. To go and win at Sheff U and Boro only to draw at home to Wigan is a real pisser.
Oh well.
Would still fancy them to get 6th ahead of Derby so overall 7 points in the week is very good return for them.
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If we make the play offs, and it’s looking more likely, is the opposition better this year than last? Even more importantly, are we better than last year. Personally, I think the answer is yes to both questions and that makes life even more exciting. DFU Villa!
Generally the teams are weaker than last year imo. There is certainly no Wolves level team in this league.
I'd fancy us over two legs v WBA which is looking most likely outcome, they haven't been as good since Harvey Barnes went back and looks like they're going to keep the rookie manager in charge for play offs.
Have to say potentially playing leeds in a final is a bit of a red flag to me similar to Fulham last year. Hopefully they'd be so disraught at missing out on top 2 they won't be able to get up for the play offs but I'd be wary as their pressing style caused us so many problems at VP even when we were 2 up.
No Grealish of course that day though. I think even if the result dosen't matter it's vital we put in a good performance at Elland Road just to lay down a marker for potential meeting in play off. They'll be nervous anyway as they'll probably have to win to keep up with Sheffield United.
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we have't covered ourselves in glory against Leeds WBA or SU this season, really, so potentially all tough matches. Let's get the opportunity first and worry about the opposition then. UTV.
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we have't covered ourselves in glory against Leeds WBA or SU this season, really, so potentially all tough matches. Let's get the opportunity first and worry about the opposition then. UTV.
Yes Sheffield's high press and 3-5-2 has also really troubled us. I reckon though if Sheffield United are the ones to finish 3rd then a Bristol City finishing 6th could take them out as Bristol have actually beaten them home and away this season.
In the play offs it's all about match ups I think. I was not worried about Boro at all last season as we simply have their number and that continued this year, in fact they would be my dream play off finalists and guess it can still happen.
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Hang on we’re only 7 points off the Baggies and I don’t fancy their next 2 games. #Believe.
In the bigger picture, we should want them to win on Tuesday v Brizzle
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For me the play offs will be contested between Villa, Albion, Leeds or Sheffield United and Bristol or Derby. I think we would have the beating of Bristol and Derby. Albion, Leeds and Sheffield United would all be tough games. I am just happy we are in the play off positions and have hit form at the ideal time. I am not going to concern myself too much with who we might face and just wait to see how it all falls into place. I am more concerned with us just keeping our current form going.
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We nearly went up last year through the playoffs via a play not to lose attitude. We’ll go up this year because we will always play to win, have goals everywhere in the squad, a defence that has improved and unmatched depth in the squad as clearly demonstrated yesterday with the impact made by our two subs. We will not to fear anyone at all.
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We nearly went up last year through the playoffs via a play not to lose attitude. We’ll go up this year because we will always play to win, have goals everywhere in the squad, a defence that has improved and unmatched depth in the squad as clearly demonstrated yesterday with the impact made by our two subs. We will not to fear anyone at all.
And in our current form, no-one will want to face us either.
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I am more worried at Olbiyon, they have a very strong experienced team.
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Would absolutely love to get the Baggies in the play-offs. Time for some pay back!
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Fuck the Albion.
We owe them tramps, big time.
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I had us at 50-50 a couple of weeks ago - I've now revised this to 65-35 - just got to keep winning.
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Fuck the Albion.
We owe them tramps, big time.
With Mings scoring a late winner, punching the ball in whilst standing on Rodriguez face.
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It's by far a trickier set of playoffs this year than last. We have a better at going up with the way we're playing but we're up against it if, as seems likely, we're playing an occasion against the Bitters and then probably Leeds or Sheff in the Final. Win promotion through that and we'll have bloody well earned our place.
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Bloody hell, only about 20 seats left in whole ground for Saturday already !
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I am starting to believe....if we do get there I am pissed off the final is on the Monday this time though.
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Would absolutely love to get the Baggies in the play-offs. Time for some pay back!
I would rather they didn’t qualify after losing all of their remaining matches.
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Would absolutely love to get the Baggies in the play-offs. Time for some pay back!
I would rather they didn’t qualify after losing all of their remaining matches.
8)
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Going to be more tricky this time round. To reach the playoffs in our hands but we need to raise our game again after a poor finish against Blackburn and an off day yesterday
As for the playoffs if you look critically at the possible opponents then we are the favourites however in our he pitch all the possibilities worry me
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Bloody hell, only about 20 seats left in whole ground for Saturday already !
And selling quickly for Millwall as well
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We nearly went up last year through the playoffs via a play not to lose attitude. We’ll go up this year because we will always play to win, have goals everywhere in the squad, a defence that has improved and unmatched depth in the squad as clearly demonstrated yesterday with the impact made by our two subs. We will not to fear anyone at all.
This is key for me. Under Bruce Vs Fulham it was obvious that we feared them and so it was a contain-and-hope strategy. This group backs themselves against anyone.
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But were nearly beaten by Wednesday- perhaps not as good as they may think
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Fuck the Albion.
We owe them tramps, big time.
We already duffed them out the cup
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But were nearly beaten by Wednesday- perhaps not as good as they may think
Even the best teams flirt with defeat from time to time.
Look how many times Ferguson's Man United plucked undeserved winners late on. They did it at least a dozen times to us alone over the years.
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But were nearly beaten by Wednesday- perhaps not as good as they may think
Even the best teams flirt with defeat from time to time.
Look how many times Ferguson's Man United plucked undeserved winners late on. They did it at least a dozen times to us alone over the years.
Under previous regimes, we'd have settled for a point. But there were no negative substitutions, we kept believing in what we do, and we reaped the rewards. And I don't agree with the implication that Wednesday had us "nearly beaten". For all their huff and puff, we proved better footballers, even on an off day.
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Bloody hell, only about 20 seats left in whole ground for Saturday already !
Last 2 sold out in B7 just as I was selecting them to buy.
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How the fuck did Weds nearly beat us? They led for the grand total of 15 mins early in the first half and managed 3 shots on target all game. In no universe is that nearly beating us, even if they'd scored the pen there was over half an hour to go. They nearly drew with us would be more accurate.
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Bloody hell, only about 20 seats left in whole ground for Saturday already !
Last 2 sold out in B7 just as I was selecting them to buy.
Sold out completely.
Edit: As have our opponents, too. Can't wait!
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How the fuck did Weds nearly beat us? They led for the grand total of 15 mins early in the first half and managed 3 shots on target all game. In no universe is that nearly beating us, even if they'd scored the pen there was over half an hour to go. They nearly drew with us would be more accurate.
Steve Bruce said they did, so it must be true.
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Bloody hell, only about 20 seats left in whole ground for Saturday already !
Last 2 sold out in B7 just as I was selecting them to buy.
Sold out completely.
Edit: As have our opponents, too. Can't wait!
That really is pretty impressive.
Full house against Blackburn (well, other than their unsold tickets), and another one against Bristol City.
If ever this club got it properly right and dragged itself into the 21st century, we'd be a sight to behold.
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Bloody hell, only about 20 seats left in whole ground for Saturday already !
Last 2 sold out in B7 just as I was selecting them to buy.
BV I take it you are over Bristol City? If so have you managed to secure tickets?
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On what planet would Villa vs Bristol city be a sell out normally?
There is something building up here.
And there are only about 4K tickets left for the Millwall game.
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For what has seemed an eternity the Villa masses with the odd exception in the past 9 years or so, and even during the highest points of the MON years have for the most past watched utter shit.
Now there is a product on the pitch, a positive manager of the sidelines with club ties and players led now by one born in our own city and system there is genuine belief again. And with the current ownership team and board in place, it could, if done right be very, very good.
The crowds are just sensational and none of the passion manufactured. It’s truly brilliant.
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On what planet would Villa vs Bristol city be a sell out normally?
There is something building up here.
And there are only about 4K tickets left for the Millwall game.
Yep Bristol game is completely sold out now, and looks like Millwall will too at this rate.
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Bloody hell, only about 20 seats left in whole ground for Saturday already !
Last 2 sold out in B7 just as I was selecting them to buy.
BV I take it you are over Bristol City? If so have you managed to secure tickets?
No, I won't be over for Bristol City, maybe for Millwall. The tickets were a 'just in case' relating to another matter which i'll explain in a PM. Couldn't get any online and now won't be needed.
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How the fuck did Weds nearly beat us? They led for the grand total of 15 mins early in the first half and managed 3 shots on target all game. In no universe is that nearly beating us, even if they'd scored the pen there was over half an hour to go. They nearly drew with us would be more accurate.
Steve Bruce said they did, so it must be true.
From the highlights I saw, they did have some chances that if they had Peter Crouch playing, his outstretched pole leg might have got there. But we soaked up their pressure and kept their better chances to a minimum.
And we took our chances, and scored.
I've no real problems of Bruce's post-match interview, it is what it is.
What I did have a problem with him, was his "tactics" at the play-off final and when we played Ipswich and he couldnt change it to beat 10 men.
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All the remaining games could well be important, but I just think the next two are huge. A bit of a gap is opening up now between us and the teams from Middlesbrough in eighth and down, but it is still tight with Bristol City and Derby. Win the next two and other results go our way, and we could have a bit of a cushion in the play off positions (particularly as we have a better goal difference than those two). Without wishing to get too far ahead, I think it is looking a bit more likely that we will play Albion in the play off semi finals.
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One ticket left in C8 if anyone wants to get to the game on Saturday.
Unreal to see a queue on the ticket website for a league game.
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They played exactly as anyone who's watched a Bruce team before would expect them to, keep it tight first half and hope for a chance on the counter then give it a go with percentage balls into the box for half an hour and if it hasn't worked go back to the tight defensive shape and hope to hang and maybe sneak another on the counter. By backing 5-10 yards deeper they gifted us the game because Grealish, having struggled to control the game until then, suddenly started bossing things and we ripped them apart 4-5 times in the last 10 minutes, with the 2 goals being a result of that pressure.
It exposed just how poor Bruce is because how could you work with Grealish for 2 years and not realise that letting him turn and get his head up is a really fucking bad idea. It's his paint-by-numbers approach to tactics that has led to him failing every time he's had a chance in the premier league and is why we didn't go up ahead of Cardiff or Fulham last year.
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Nail on head paul_e!!!
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10 more points to our total and we'd still have a cracking chance of 2nd place.
Frustrating when you think of all the points we dropped in very winnable games in December-February.
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If Jack hadn't been out for 13 games we'd be in there at minimum a point or two off. Of course didn't help that our defence was awful and broken down for a good while also. It is what it is. We're the best of the rest as it stands. We need to make it count.
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6 games ago we were 13 points behind Boro and now look at us. Anything is possible in this crazy league.
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Hopefully this is a bit more than a wobble from the stripeys. We're still going to need them to drop 4 points, and I'd sooner have their run-in than ours.
Maybe Dazvillain can curse them with one of his predictions like he did for 'boro!
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Results not really going for us tonight. No doubts Derby will scramble one in in the 97th minute.
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Other results are irrelevant. It's in our hands.
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Other results are irrelevant. It's in our hands.
Very true. Take care of our own business. It's nervy but exciting at the same time.
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Derby and Preston results are, results overall are meh. Saturday was unusually fortuitous. As ads says there will be good and bad nights if we keep winning it won’t matter.
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Derby in not winning their tricky away games shock, they'll struggle to even get to 70 points. Been poor since January like clockwork at this level.
Win tomorrow and we'll have 5 point buffer to 7th which is good position to be at this late stage.
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Other results are irrelevant. It's in our hands.
Very true. Take care of our own business. It's nervy but exciting at the same time.
Not half. Can't wait for Saturday, and we've still got tomorrow to get through first.
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One ticket left in C8 if anyone wants to get to the game on Saturday.
Unreal to see a queue on the ticket website for a league game.
That might be between me and my daughter. Wouldn’t recommend it.
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i have to say that Bristol City are currently pissing me right off.
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At least you don’t live here :-( I understand they are easy to like from a distance but they’ve been seriously annoying since the joe bryan thing which they saw as payback for the post cup mullering we gave them.
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Don't care about Bristol's result tonight. By the time we are done with them at the weekend we'll be 4 points clear if they hang on. And what tonight is also showing is what a useless bunch of wankers the bitters are. We'll do them in the playoffs too
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Mind you, I'm quite fond of Blacburn Rovers.
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I dont hate them that much, and thats as close to liking any other teams as I get.
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Results are good tonight.
Preston & Forest now out of it, leaving ourselves, Bristol, Derby & Boro chasing 2 spots.
Derby have lost tonight and if we win tomorrow, they will need 7 more points than us from their last 6 games (to our 5). Boro need 6 more points than us from their last 5 games.
Also if we win tomorrow, we're only 4 points off WBA.
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Got Derby finishing on 71 points. We should be well capable of getting that as our GD is miles better than what they have even after their 6-1 win.
Have to say that's outstanding from Bristol City to win back to back aways like that. In fairness they play decent football so as a neutral I'd rather have them in top 6 than a boring team like Boro.
Game at VP will be key to the run in.
yes Bristol gained 4 more points than I anticipated over last 2 games, so my revised end of season has Bristol finishing 5th on 75, boro 6th on 75 (maybe too enthusiastic on current form ), derby 7th on 73 and ourselves 8th on 72
Based on my original predictions from 9 games out (not changing predictions for current form changes), after tonight’s round of games, and sticking with my original win prediction for us tomorrow, from 4th place down I think it’ll end up ;
WBA 78
Bristol city 75
AVFC 74 big goal diff
Boro 74 shit goal diff
Derby 70
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Results are good tonight.
Preston & Forest now out of it, leaving ourselves, Bristol, Derby & Boro chasing 2 spots.
Derby have lost tonight and if we win tomorrow, they will need 7 more points than us from their last 6 games (to our 5). Boro need 6 more points than us from their last 5 games.
Also if we win tomorrow, we're only 4 points off WBA.
A pretty good analysis there.
BUT, it all comes down to us. We just have to do the business tomorrow.
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Just looking at fixtures it really is pretty exciting stuff in the championship unknown , especially still to come;
FOREST V Sheff Utd and boro
SHEFF WED will deserve a bloody place if they get points v Leeds, Norwich, Bristol and Preston !!
BRISTOL CITY v some midlands team Saturday, Sheff Wed and derby
DERBY v blues , Bristol ,SWANSEA and wba all away !
WBA should get enough to sneak 4th v Preston, hull and Rotherham all home plus 1 away
AVFC I’m predicting wins v Rotherham, Bolton and millwall, draws v Bristol and Norwich with a defeat at Leeds
Thoughts ?
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Got Derby finishing on 71 points. We should be well capable of getting that as our GD is miles better than what they have even after their 6-1 win.
Have to say that's outstanding from Bristol City to win back to back aways like that. In fairness they play decent football so as a neutral I'd rather have them in top 6 than a boring team like Boro.
Game at VP will be key to the run in.
yes Bristol gained 4 more points than I anticipated over last 2 games, so my revised end of season has Bristol finishing 5th on 75, boro 6th on 75 (maybe too enthusiastic on current form ), derby 7th on 73 and ourselves 8th on 72
Based on my original predictions from 9 games out (not changing predictions for current form changes), after tonight’s round of games, and sticking with my original win prediction for us tomorrow, from 4th place down I think it’ll end up ;
WBA 78
Bristol city 75
AVFC 74 big goal diff
Boro 74 shit goal diff
Derby 70
Seems pessimistic to me. I think we’ll win the next 4 before a draw and a loss in the last 2.
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Just looking at fixtures it really is pretty exciting stuff in the championship unknown , especially still to come;
FOREST V Sheff Utd and boro
SHEFF WED will deserve a bloody place if they get points v Leeds, Norwich, Bristol and Preston !!
BRISTOL CITY v some midlands team Saturday, Sheff Wed and derby
DERBY v blues , Bristol ,SWANSEA and wba all away !
WBA should get enough to sneak 4th v Preston, hull and Rotherham all home plus 1 away
AVFC I’m predicting wins v Rotherham, Bolton and millwall, draws v Bristol and Norwich with a defeat at Leeds
Thoughts ?
Points for us probably about right but this has been such a crazy season, who knows? I do think if we need to beat Norwich last game then we will.
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There is no way Boro get to 74 points. They played an absolutely shit Bolton side and finally managed to win after weeks of utter crap.
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A win tomorrow and a draw with Bristol will keep us both away from the chasers but I don’t think boro have got enough so only derby and Wednesday to worry about I reckon
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As it stands, Bristol are still an annoying problem and could take 5th place if we don't beat them on Saturday. Obviously they could drop points unexpectedly like they did against Wigan at the weekend, but only a win against them on Saturday will put is in the driving seat as it will send us 4pts clear and negate their game in hand. We just have to remain focused, take care of our own business and keep on winning.
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A win tomorrow and a draw with Bristol will keep us both away from the chasers but I don’t think boro have got enough so only derby and Wednesday to worry about I reckon
It's effectively a 4 horse race between us, Bristol, Derby and Boro...but yeah, it's only polite to include a few outsiders to keep it interesting. We pretty much killed off Sheff Weds season on Saturday, and both Preston and Forest were done for tonight.
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The title of this thread tells you where we were a couple of rounds of games ago. We’ve been bloody lucky with results around us, but the biggest factors is 6 fucking wins on the trot. If we get 2 more we’re in dreamland and a team that can win 8 in a row can beat anyone in the playoffs.
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A win tomorrow and a draw with Bristol will keep us both away from the chasers but I don’t think boro have got enough so only derby and Wednesday to worry about I reckon
Derby even less of a worry than Boro imo. They were desperate at Blackburn tonight, hardly had a shot on target and not won away since Dec 29th.
Guess only worry is they play WBA last day as they're probably so small time they'd rather lose that and risk their own place in the top 6 if it meant we missed out. We'll be home and dry by last game I reckon.
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Is it really luck with the results around us? Or is that outside of Norwich every team contending for spots 2-6 is average and can lose to anyone? And I would contend strongly albeit hypothetically that had Dean Smith had this squad from day one we’d be up with Norwich.
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This side with the main players fit most of the season and with Smith in charge and we'd be promoted already. We're 5th despite 2 shit runs that combined gave us 4 wins in 27 games (2 wins in 13 and 2 wins in 14).
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When you put it like that it's a miracle we're anywhere near it.
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Bristol seem to have been excellent for 15 minutes and then battered by the Stripey Filth 2nd half.
An amusing comment on a Bristol forum in response to "bring on the Villa" was "Yes, I need a holiday after watching that!".
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Results are good tonight.
Preston & Forest now out of it, leaving ourselves, Bristol, Derby & Boro chasing 2 spots.
Derby have lost tonight and if we win tomorrow, they will need 7 more points than us from their last 6 games (to our 5). Boro need 6 more points than us from their last 5 games.
Also if we win tomorrow, we're only 4 points off WBA.
A pretty good analysis there.
BUT, it all comes down to us. We just have to do the business tomorrow.
Yes it all comes down to us.
However, I'd sooner we need 9 or 10 points from the last 18 than 12+. It makes our task so much easier and also does not take me (and 1000s of others) to hell and back along the way. The more points our rivals drop, the less games we HAVE to win.
10 more points for us sees Boro needing to win 4 & draw 1 of their last 5 and/or Derby needing to win 4 & draw 2 of their last 6. Both must remain undefeated to catch us if we can hit a modest target of 10 points. 12 points would almost certainly see us home and dry.
For 10 points, we can afford to lose 2 and draw 1 of our remaining 6 games.
Yes, it is in our own hands and yes we needn't worry about others. That doesn't mean we have to ignore others because it is their results that dictate our own target.
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Bristol seem to have been excellent for 15 minutes and then battered by the Stripey Filth 2nd half.
An amusing comment on a Bristol forum in response to "bring on the Villa" was "Yes, I need a holiday after watching that!".
Just had a read - 10 points from those last 4 games is an incredible return to be fair. They should not be taken lightly, either now or in the play offs. Last season saw 3rd v 4th in the final at Wembley. This time, it could quite easily be 5th verse 6th.
Anyway - You missed the quote of the thread:
Love these WBA fans, most important thing is Villa not going up😆
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Win the next two and our place in the play offs is pretty well guaranteed I'd have thought. That would put us on 69 points with four to play.
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If we can't beat Rotherham, Bolton and Millwall we don't deserve to go up. That leaves one win to get and maybe an extra point from the other three games.
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A win tomorrow and a draw with Bristol will keep us both away from the chasers but I don’t think boro have got enough so only derby and Wednesday to worry about I reckon
Guess only worry is they play WBA last day as they're probably so small time they'd rather lose that and risk their own place in the top 6 if it meant we missed out. We'll be home and dry by last game I reckon.
If we can keep our winning run going then a play off place should be secured well before the last league game of the season.
Something seems to be going wrong over in Smethwick and we could well finish above them if our respective current trends of form continue. We win our next two games and they don't beat Preston on Saturday and they will really start feeling the heat. Finishing 4th would mean the 2nd leg of the play offs would be at home so it is worth going for.
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Finishing 4th would mean the 2nd leg of the play offs would be at home so it is worth going for.
I never knew the schedule was predefined by where you finish. I guess it makes sense. Cheers, Tom.
Playing in a half empty Hawthorns will be a strange one should we only finish 5th.
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Finishing 4th would mean the 2nd leg of the play offs would be at home so it is worth going for.
I never knew the schedule was predefined by where you finish. I guess it makes sense. Cheers, Tom.
Playing in a half empty Hawthorns will be a strange one should we only finish 5th.
Don't take that as gospel mate, just always thought it was the case!! Us and Fulham both played the second legs at home last season if I recall correctly.
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3rd plays 6th (3rd Away 1st Leg)
4th plays 5th (4th Away 1st Leg)
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I think we probably will make the play offs, but with 6 games to play are we getting a bit ahead of ourselves how we want the running order to be ?
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4th, 5th or 6th. I don’t care. Just get us in there.
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If we can't beat Rotherham, Bolton and Millwall we don't deserve to go up. That leaves one win to get and maybe an extra point from the other three games.
This reminds me of the old England song. 'This time, more than any other time, this time'. How many times have we been let down, how many false dawns? Please, please do not let this be another one.
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If we can't beat Rotherham, Bolton and Millwall we don't deserve to go up. That leaves one win to get and maybe an extra point from the other three games.
If we want to get promoted and play in the Premier League week in, week out we shouldn't really be writing off a home game against Norwich either!
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3rd plays 6th (3rd Away 1st Leg)
4th plays 5th (4th Away 1st Leg)
Have the dates been announced yet? Interested to see if home game would be a Friday night or weekend game.
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If we can't beat Rotherham, Bolton and Millwall we don't deserve to go up. That leaves one win to get and maybe an extra point from the other three games.
If we want to get promoted and play in the Premier League week in, week out we shouldn't really be writing off a home game against Norwich either!
I don't think Dave is writing any game off.
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If we can't beat Rotherham, Bolton and Millwall we don't deserve to go up. That leaves one win to get and maybe an extra point from the other three games.
If we want to get promoted and play in the Premier League week in, week out we shouldn't really be writing off a home game against Norwich either!
I don't think Dave is writing any game off.
I know he isn't. I was simply reinforcing the fact that it's in our hands now and if we want to get promoted winning most of your games goes with the territory.
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What’s the centre back situation for Saturday? Worrying lack of them on the bench tonight. What chance hause and Chester being available?
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3rd plays 6th (3rd Away 1st Leg)
4th plays 5th (4th Away 1st Leg)
Have the dates been announced yet? Interested to see if home game would be a Friday night or weekend game.
Last year was Friday / Monday 3rd v 6th and Saturday / Tuesday 4th v 5th
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Pretty sure the last time we won 8 in a row was the last 8 games in 74/75, if we can match that next game we're all but in I reckon.
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I've still not given up on automatic...
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The question of this topic should read:
Does anyone else stand a chance?
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I've still not given up on automatic...
That's the spirit. (Nurse!, Nurse!)
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We seem to be playing one good half in recent games. This could be due to a number of factors. If it goes on it will cost us points.
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If we beat Bristol City, we only need 7 points from the last 4 games because....
- that's more points than anyone bar Boro, Derby and Bristol City can get AND
- Boro can only match our points but have much worse goal difference AND
- Derby and Brizzles game in hand over us... Is against each other So they can't Both get more points than us.
In reality, it may be a few points less than 76, but it always helps to know.
#iioh
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I don't see any signs that this run weighs on the players. I think Smith's doing a great job of keeping them taking one game at a time, what's done is done, the only game that matters is the next one. Despite a couple of iffy halves recently, tonight's first is possibly the first time arrogant complacency crept in, and he nipped that in the bud pronto.
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I don't see any signs that this run weighs on the players. I think Smith's doing a great job of keeping them taking one game at a time, what's done is done, the only game that matters is the next one. Despite a couple of iffy halves recently, tonight's first is possibly the first time arrogant complacency crept in, and he nipped that in the bud pronto.
Our team spirit seems brilliant.UTV
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We seem to be playing one good half in recent games. This could be due to a number of factors. If it goes on it will cost us points.
All the evidence suggests it doesn't make a blind bit of difference!
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We seem to be playing one good half in recent games. This could be due to a number of factors. If it goes on it will cost us points.
All the evidence suggests it doesn't make a blind bit of difference!
It hasn't up to now, but it will if my gambling expererience is anything to go by.
I am hoping that we will get back into gear and render the argument moot.
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Pretty sure the last time we won 8 in a row was the last 8 games in 74/75, if we can match that next game we're all but in I reckon.
I agree.
Going back to 74-75, last game of the season was against Norwich. We also played Millwall over the Easter period.
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We won 10 out of last 11 games in 74/75 losing to the mighty Leyton Orient.
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Tonights performance is similar to those I've watched in the past and thought to myself "Villa would never come back with only 10 men on the field". I'm not sure if anyone can correct me but I can't remember us ever winning a game after going behind with 10 men on the pitch.
This side/squad is something else. It is better than the Terry, Snoddy, Johnstone team of last season and the bottle shown tonight should not be underestimated.
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Tonights performance is similar to those I've watched in the past and thought to myself "Villa would never come back with only 10 men on the field". I'm not sure if anyone can correct me but I can't remember us ever winning a game after going behind with 10 men on the pitch.
This side/squad is something else. It is better than the Terry, Snoddy, Johnstone team of last season and the bottle shown tonight should not be underestimated.
Away at Sunderland, goal down, Young sent off and come back to win 2-1. About 10 years ago.
Can't think of any others.
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Tonights performance is similar to those I've watched in the past and thought to myself "Villa would never come back with only 10 men on the field". I'm not sure if anyone can correct me but I can't remember us ever winning a game after going behind with 10 men on the pitch.
This side/squad is something else. It is better than the Terry, Snoddy, Johnstone team of last season and the bottle shown tonight should not be underestimated.
Potato Head used to use it as an excuse if the opposition had a man sent off.
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Pretty sure the last time we won 8 in a row was the last 8 games in 74/75, if we can match that next game we're all but in I reckon.
I agree.
Going back to 74-75, last game of the season was against Norwich. We also played Millwall over the Easter period.
Hi Mark, I'm pretty sure that our all time record is 8 league wins in a row.
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Love this.
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1116133826898661376?s=21
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So how many points do we need 7 more enough?
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Damn right we have a chance this team is on the up hopefully in more ways than one.
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So how many points do we need 7 more enough?
2 wins and 2 draws would almost certainly be enough. I reckon the 2 wins and a draw would probably do, and would require one of the teams below Bristol to go on a good run to push us out.
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Two wins should be enough, particularly if one of them is Saturday.
Looking at some of the other fixtures left makes me less nervy as well. Bristol City will either drop points, or stop the only teams who would threaten us hitting the top six.
Saturday 13 April
Middlesbrough v Hull City
Friday 19th April
Small Heath v Derby County
West Bromwich Albion v Hull City
Monday 22nd April
Hull City v Sheffield United
Nottingham Forest v Middlesbrough
Sheffield Wednesday v Bristol City
Saturday 27th April
Bristol City v Derby County
Tuesday 30th April
Millwall v Bristol City
Sunday 5th May
Derby County v West Bromwich Albion
Hull City v Bristol City
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Two wins should be enough, particularly if one of them is Saturday.
Looking at some of the other fixtures left makes me less nervy as well. Bristol City will either drop points, or stop the only teams who would threaten us hitting the top six.
Saturday 13 April
Middlesbrough v Hull City
Friday 19th April
Small Heath v Derby County
West Bromwich Albion v Hull City
Monday 22nd April
Hull City v Sheffield United
Nottingham Forest v Middlesbrough
Sheffield Wednesday v Bristol City
Saturday 27th April
Bristol City v Derby County
Tuesday 30th April
Millwall v Bristol City
Sunday 5th May
Derby County v West Bromwich Albion
Hull City v Bristol City
With all those playing each other I think 2 wins will do it. I've got Bolton down as 1, possibly Millwall but a win Saturday would mean we could beat Bolton and breath.
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Love this.
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1116133826898661376?s=21
Brilliant. Tammy cracks me up. They all look like they are just loving it.
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Wednesday will beat Brizzle. And the Noses will beat Derby.
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With everyone else dropping points and the games other contenders have, just 6 more points is probably enough for 6th. I prefer it if we chase down Sandwell and go undefeated to the playoffs for 13 (if I have counted correctly), that puts a serious marker down and keeps the good vibe going!
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If Sandwell don’t beat Preston I think they might choke.
We can do that hilarious ‘“ mind the gap”
Guffaws at the prospect
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The bitters have become the jitters and will become the shitters as we get closer to them and pass them by in the table.
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Tonights performance is similar to those I've watched in the past and thought to myself "Villa would never come back with only 10 men on the field". I'm not sure if anyone can correct me but I can't remember us ever winning a game after going behind with 10 men on the pitch.
This side/squad is something else. It is better than the Terry, Snoddy, Johnstone team of last season and the bottle shown tonight should not be underestimated.
Not sure on that, been great last six weeks but before that we've badly lacked the resilience the experienced guys gave us last season.
Think back to being battered at Sheffield United and pinching it 1-0 due to Snoddy curler in last minute. Also were 2-1 down at Sheff Weds and turned it into a 4-2 in last 10 minutes.
We had the players and mentality to go up last year but were too one dimensional in our play especially when behind which Fulham brutally exposed in the final.
Want to see how we can match up with Leeds. Even if they go up in 2nd we need to play well at Elland Road. Winning or drawing there would be a very good sign for the play offs I think as they obviously did a number on us at VP.
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Love this.
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1116133826898661376?s=21
Brilliant. Tammy cracks me up. They all look like they are just loving it.
I think things like this are really important. Does Axel really believe he will make Man U first team or does he think they will buy a £50m defender instead? Same with Tyrone.If we go up, do they think they will make more money or have more success with their parent club?
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Looks very much now like Leeds are going up in 2nd.
Would people prefer to drop down to 6th to play a wounded Sheffield United or take our chances v WBA who might have new manager bounce?
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I don't care, everyone else is playing for the runner-up money.
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Looks very much now like Leeds are going up in 2nd.
Would people prefer to drop down to 6th to play a wounded Sheffield United or take our chances v WBA who might have new manager bounce?
Does it? I think it will go to the wire. Sheff Utd aren’t going away
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Looks very much now like Leeds are going up in 2nd.
Would people prefer to drop down to 6th to play a wounded Sheffield United or take our chances v WBA who might have new manager bounce?
Does it? I think it will go to the wire. Sheff Utd aren’t going away
They conceded 95 minute goal to Millwall to only draw 1-1. Leeds go 3 clear if they win.
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One game at a time, we aren't there yet but our destiny is in our hands. I know one thing and that is no-one will want to come up against us in the play offs.
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Barring a disaster, I think that's us nailed on for a play off spot. With Brizzle and Derby having to play each other, we've got a bit of breathing space now.
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Just read elsewhere that Billy Sharp hamstring went.
If true you'd think he's out not just for regular season but play offs aswell.
Hogan would be ineligible against us so Sheffield would be struggling for strikers if they played us in play offs.
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Just read elsewhere that Billy Sharp hamstring went.
If true you'd think he's out not just for regular season but play offs aswell.
Hogan would be ineligible against us so Sheffield would be struggling for strikers if they played us in play offs.
They’ve still got Madine and McGoldrick.
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If we keep this up I think we’re in.
We shouldn’t have anything to fear from those below us our only concern should be the Baggies and the Blades and with the form we’re in I think they’d be more worried about us. There’s also the factor that we owe them both from this season.
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All I wanted from the time Smith took over was to finish in the play offs. I don't really care who we play, as we've shown on our day we're at least as good as them all, and we have the added advantage of coming into the last few games in form.
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2 wins and we are done, we can put this to bed before Leeds and Norwich.
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Stripey in the pub last night reckons we'd comfortably see them off at the moment.
There was also a Villa fan who for some reason reckoned an us-them final would have overtones akin to the '84 League Cup Final. I disagreed.
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You can get a 10% discount code for Travelodge in May. Just saying.
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You can get a 10% discount code for Travelodge in May. Just saying.
Is their cancellation* policy as handy as Booking.com's, though?
*not that you'll actually need it, obviously.
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You can get a 10% discount code for Travelodge in May. Just saying.
Is their cancellation* policy as handy as Booking.com's, though?
*not that you'll actually need it, obviously.
You have to pay a bit more to be able to cancel. It's about £5 a night.
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All i fear now is a stroke of bad luck. I think that's the only thing that could stop us.
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All i fear now is a stroke of bad luck. I think that's the only thing that could stop us.
You mean worse than being simultaneously without 4 centre-halves, Grealish and Kodjia, that bad?
Yesterday, we became an unstoppable force. There is now only one outcome.
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Just read elsewhere that Billy Sharp hamstring went.
If true you'd think he's out not just for regular season but play offs aswell.
Hogan would be ineligible against us so Sheffield would be struggling for strikers if they played us in play offs.
They’ve still got Madine and McGoldrick.
Don't rate Madine or Connor Washington, McGoldrick is alright but more of a link up striker than finisher.
Sheffield without Billy Sharp tapping them in would be toothless in play offs.
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All i fear now is a stroke of bad luck. I think that's the only thing that could stop us.
You mean worse than being simultaneously without 4 centre-halves, Grealish and Kodjia, that bad?
Yesterday, we became an unstoppable force. There is now only one outcome.
Ha well a mass brawl on in the Norwich game and Grealish, Mings and McGinn all seeing straight reds would probably top that....
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On the 38th anniversary of this legendary quote, it seemed rather appropriate to update it.
(https://i.ibb.co/3WzxVdr/holte.png) (https://ibb.co/3WzxVdr)
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Love it.
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All i fear now is a stroke of bad luck. I think that's the only thing that could stop us.
You mean worse than being simultaneously without 4 centre-halves, Grealish and Kodjia, that bad?
Yesterday, we became an unstoppable force. There is now only one outcome.
Ha well a mass brawl on in the Norwich game and Grealish, Mings and McGinn all seeing straight reds would probably top that....
I’m hoping that day is all deckchairs and balloons. No drama please
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All i fear now is a stroke of bad luck. I think that's the only thing that could stop us.
You mean worse than being simultaneously without 4 centre-halves, Grealish and Kodjia, that bad?
Yesterday, we became an unstoppable force. There is now only one outcome.
When you put it like that it shows just how much better our squad is than everyone else and brings in to sharp focus just what a horlicks Bruce made of things!
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There's no question at all in my mind that we're in the Play-Offs.
I think the only team I fear is Sheffield United as they've been pretty damn good against us for all but 10 minutes this season. The last 10 though which is handy... I'm also a little nervous as I'm surrounded by them.
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All i fear now is a stroke of bad luck. I think that's the only thing that could stop us.
I’ve already warned my boy that it will probably be a second team at Norwich. No injuries and no yellow/reds will be all that matters by then.
You mean worse than being simultaneously without 4 centre-halves, Grealish and Kodjia, that bad?
Yesterday, we became an unstoppable force. There is now only one outcome.
Ha well a mass brawl on in the Norwich game and Grealish, Mings and McGinn all seeing straight reds would probably top that....
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That's it. We are in play off either in 6th place or more likey 5th and to play West Brom. Time to light the barbeque.
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I think we drew 3-3 with Norwich back in time on the last day some time.
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I think we drew 3-3 with Norwich back in time on the last day some time.
We drew 3-3 in the last home game of 89/90, then played Everton away.
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It’s all so annoying now that Jack got injured and the wheels fell off in Jan/Feb as the top 3 are nothing special. Only Norwich have lost less games than us, so even though we had a terrible couple of months it’s the draws that have killed us
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Been a mad old season. If we win on Monday half our wins will have come in the last 10. Of course there's the coulda/shoulda regrets when you see the teams in automatic stumbling but what's done is done and let's enjoy the lads making history now.
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3 points on Monday and certain to be in play offs.
Then 19 days and 2 games before the drama begins.
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That's it. We are in play off either in 6th place or more likey 5th and to play West Brom. Time to light the barbeque.
Hopefully not premature.
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It’s all so annoying now that Jack got injured and the wheels fell off in Jan/Feb as the top 3 are nothing special. Only Norwich have lost less games than us, so even though we had a terrible couple of months it’s the draws that have killed us
Yes 10 more points and we'd be favourites for second. If we're still down in the championship next year then one truth for automatic promotion is you can't afford two bad runs in a season.
Two seasons running now we've had a very slow start up to October which allows 4-5 strong teams to get ahead and then we've also had poor results over xmas.
We could've just brushed off the mediocre SB start to the season if we'd had even a decent run in January and February.
2nd place will certainly not need this two points a game average a few on here keep banging on about anyway.
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It’s all so annoying now that Jack got injured and the wheels fell off in Jan/Feb as the top 3 are nothing special. Only Norwich have lost less games than us, so even though we had a terrible couple of months it’s the draws that have killed us
See, I'm just grateful that when we endured our shit run we were picking up a point more often than not. The playoffs seemed impossible then but those points count just as much as the others.
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I've posted it before but it shows how frustrating those runs were as our 2 bad runs covered 27 games and we won 4 of them (2 wins in 13 and 2 wins in 14).
People talk about 2 points per game as that is always the target as every side that has hit 90 points has gone up automatically.
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I've posted it before but it shows how frustrating those runs were as our 2 bad runs covered 27 games and we won 4 of them (2 wins in 13 and 2 wins in 14).
People talk about 2 points per game as that is always the target as every side that has hit 90 points has gone up automatically.
It becomes a tough ask if you have a slow start like we annually seem to do. If you win your first 5-6 games like Wolves and Newcastle have done in previous years then much easier.
Think 2nd won't even need 90 points as I can see Leeds dropping points to us and Brentford and Sheffield United maybe drawing with Hull.
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It often doesn't, i'm sure when I looked up various points totals last season someone went up in second a few years ago with something daft like 79 points. But no one has ever hit 90 and not gone up which is why it's the target.
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It’s all so annoying now that Jack got injured and the wheels fell off in Jan/Feb as the top 3 are nothing special. Only Norwich have lost less games than us, so even though we had a terrible couple of months it’s the draws that have killed us
See, I'm just grateful that when we endured our shit run we were picking up a point more often than not. The playoffs seemed impossible then but those points count just as much as the others.
Quoting myself like an absolute hero, but I should add that I was talking about the shit run under Smith. The one under Bruce can, like its author, get to fucking fuck.
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All ifs and buts, but this current squad and DS in charge all season and we'd have been promoted already. And PH can get to fucking fuck, but ultimately, if he'd picked up a few more wins during that run he'd probably still be here. So thank fuck he was shit and so we now appear to be a club that isn't 20 years out of date.
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All ifs and buts, but this current squad and DS in charge all season and we'd have been promoted already. And PH can get to fucking fuck, but ultimately, if he'd picked up a few more wins during that run he'd probably still be here. So thank fuck he was shit and so we now appear to be a club that isn't 20 years out of date.
Amen to that.
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Think next season the standard will be weaker. Huddersfield have a really poor squad so they'll be mid table at best and Cardiff overachieved to get promoted so think they'll only be challenging for play offs. Fulham is the one I don't really have a clue as they'll massively change their squad. Swansea came down in similar state and they haven't troubled the top 6 at any point.
Of course we don't know which of the established teams down here will seriously challenge like Leeds and Norwich have done but I really fancy our chances for top 2 next year if we don't make it this season.
Only problem is losing the core of the team!
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Exactly, which is why we need to make the most of our unexpected opportunity.
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Norwich might not even make 90 points at this rate. Could yet come to VP still needing something on the final day.
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It often doesn't, i'm sure when I looked up various points totals last season someone went up in second a few years ago with something daft like 79 points. But no one has ever hit 90 and not gone up which is why it's the target.
Hull under Bruce in 2013. 79 points and auto promoted. It's contributed to his "promotion expert" mystique when in some seasons it would barely be enough to make the play-offs.
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Norwich might not even make 90 points at this rate. Could yet come to VP still needing something on the final day.
Good, lets leave our mark all over this division as we march gloriously to our destiny.
Bring them all on.
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Just been looking at the table again and a win for us on Monday coupled with any two of Boro, Brizzle C and Derby dropping points sees us guaranteed top 6.
Edit: talking shite. If Boro win and Brizzle C draw they would both still be capable of overtaking us.
I guess we just win and see how the rest goes.
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On the 38th anniversary of this legendary quote, it seemed rather appropriate to update it.
(https://i.ibb.co/3WzxVdr/holte.png) (https://ibb.co/3WzxVdr)
Superb. Nicked and new laptop wallpaper created. Thanks
Ps exigo - you are now a W short and do you have that pic without the W’s by any chance?
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Just been looking at the table again and a win for us on Monday coupled with any two of Boro, Brizzle C and Derby dropping points sees us guaranteed top 6.
Edit: talking shite. If Boro win and Brizzle C draw they would both still be capable of overtaking us.
I guess we just win and see how the rest goes.
Hope this helps if you want to keep looking !
Still winning ! Eh 9 wins !!!
But these are fixtures form and current standing
4. West Brom 76
5. Aston Villa 72
6. Middlesbrough 67
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7 Bristol City 66
8 Derby 64
Fixtures and form
Middlesboro form: LLLWWW
Forest (a) DWLLLL
Reading (h) DWLDWD
Rotherham (a) LLWLDL
Bristol City form: WWDWLD
Sheffield Wed (a) WDLWLD
Derby (h) DWDLWD
Millwall (a) WLWDDD
Hull (a) DWWWLL
Derby County : DWDLWD
Queens Park Rangers (h) DLLDWL
Bristol city (a) WWDWLD
Swansea (a) LWWWLW
West brom (h) WWLWW
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My view is that we won't lose again this season - or post season. We just seem to have that desire about us.
I'm predicting a win and 2 draws in the last 3 and then 2 wins and a draw in the play offs.
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Agree, Richard. The only team that can beat us at the moment is ourselves, and Smith seems resolute in making sure that that doesn't happen.
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On the 38th anniversary of this legendary quote, it seemed rather appropriate to update it.
(https://i.ibb.co/3WzxVdr/holte.png) (https://ibb.co/3WzxVdr)
Superb. Nicked and new laptop wallpaper created. Thanks
Ps exigo - you are now a W short and do you have that pic without the W’s by any chance?
Got back from Bolton too late, tired and pissed to do it last night. But here's the club-record-equalling update.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vtbxc1z/holte.png) (https://ibb.co/Vtbxc1z)
I can do one without the Ws, but even though I'm not superstitious, I don't want to tempt fate just yet!
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I think it depends how Smith sets up the team for the run in.
He may decide to rest and rotate, he may want to keep the momentum going all the way to the play offs.
Leeds will be extremely aggressive and I will want it more than us if as I believe our play off position will be secure by then.
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Leeds utd have been failing for years .
They have shown this season too despite some great stuff by them how ordinary they can be but also that they panic , struggle with temperament and have shown like sheff utd a struggle under pressure . The consistency and the beautiful football has been with Norwich and I applaud them again for last night and what they have done.
They are a recent premier League club as are Middlesbrough WBA and ourselves
Derby county have consistently been around play offs and been in prem more recently than Sheffield utd and Leeds. Bristol city shown very capable again this season and I can acknowledge that .
Sheffield utd- I really admire wilder and how he has approached things as much and the expectations (outside of Sheffield)aren't as high as Leeds but reality they are both capable of being 2nd or 3rd
I quite agree though the players we have and the way we are playing plus the overall squad is hard to compare to an of the teams around us I just think we have a superb quality that is fitting to be premier League.
I don't know what state Leeds utd will be in on Sunday 28th may And also importantly there fans. They been shouting for years and been through a lot of difficult times. I think they should just accept a play off place is actually a success.
I sure they will have to push for a win however both them and sheff utd have blown chances to cement 2nd.
On the Leeds utd it could well be a show down for the final come may at elland road however I liking idea of lampards Derby county beating bielsa lot in other semi as karma for the spy stuff .
Really we have a great chance of being promoted. And it's not just out support that sees it as a reality which also says a lot. The in form team with some major players in this league.
We can really look forward to the next 3 matches of season and that's really the key.
Villa faithful expectations are being met and that there is a refreshed look at things pre matches that basically we are so much more positive .
The playing squad and coaching staff have made us all look at things with this optimism and say a Wembley final comes I feel who ever villa play there is a good chance of winning.
One of those factors is the abundance of chances and that Smith philosophy is to outscore opponents and win football matches.
Play off semi and cup football require a slightly different approach perhaps but I think the beauty is that Smith will look to win both legs of semi.
The defence is seemingly a lot more settled and I think we all feel a lot more composure has been added with the balance of left sides minger.
I do like hearing Hutton and Chester are getting back to fitness and these 3 remaining games feel they should be involved for match exposure when Smith feels right . Despite my major concerns on steer I can accept that he's the man in nets and have to back him. I hope he doesn't make any howling errors in the play offs . Similar with certain player getting suspended. Villa have squad to work around it but still.
Anyway in all there is a lot more confidence all round about our chances that there has been at any point this season - well for me anyway.
So answering that question I can still keep saying yes we have a chance!
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On the 38th anniversary of this legendary quote, it seemed rather appropriate to update it.
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Superb. Nicked and new laptop wallpaper created. Thanks
Ps exigo - you are now a W short and do you have that pic without the W’s by any chance?
Got back from Bolton too late, tired and pissed to do it last night. But here's the club-record-equalling update.
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I can do one without the Ws, but even though I'm not superstitious, I don't want to tempt fate just yet!
Thanks a lot. Yes agreed, if you could do one at the end of the season would be great.
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Didn’t realise how tough Derby’s run in is, including away fixtures they won’t win in a million years. We can write them off.
Boro have started scraping results at a good time and have the easiest run in. I expect them to get back in and stink up the playoffs again. Which is a shame for Bristol city who deserve to be in the mix far more.
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Boro to squeak into sixth, play attritional football and somehow beat Leeds. Then be schooled like always, against us at Wembley.
That would be nice.
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Boro to squeak into sixth, play attritional football and somehow beat Leeds. Then be schooled like always, against us at Wembley.
That would be nice.
If Carlsberg did play off scenarios. With the camera cutting to a half crying, half fuming Steve Gibson at the final whistle.
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That’s actually a reasonably likely scenario. Leeds haven’t beaten boro this season.
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That’s actually a reasonably likely scenario. Leeds haven’t beaten boro this season.
Nor us against Albion.
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Boro to squeak into sixth, play attritional football and somehow beat Leeds. Then be schooled like always, against us at Wembley.
That would be nice.
This would be ideal.
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That’s actually a reasonably likely scenario. Leeds haven’t beaten boro this season.
Nor us against Albion.
Fair point but our form is heading in different directions.
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That’s actually a reasonably likely scenario. Leeds haven’t beaten boro this season.
Nor us against Albion.
Fair point but our form is heading in different directions.
They have won the last 2 scoring 7 goals.
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4 came in a game under very dubious circumstances with Neil.
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Leeds, Sheffield United, stripeyfilth, their bitter West Country cousins, penis, all lambs to the slaughter. We're an irresistible force, and I see no immovable objects in that list.
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Winning Streaks in World Club football:
Team Tournament Streaks (Played)
1 Manchester City Premier League 10 (34)
2 Aston Villa Championship 9 (43)
3 Olympiacos Super League 8 (28)
4 Sporting CP Liga NOS 7 (30)
5 Almere City FC Jupiler League 6 (35)
6 Beijing Guoan Super league 6 (6)
7 Dynamo Kyiv Premier League 6 (22)
8 FC Porto Liga NOS 6 (30)
9 FK Crvena Zvezda Super Liga 6 (30)
10 FK Spartak Subotica Super Liga 6 (30)
11 Ajax Eredivisie 5 (31)
12 Gaz Metan Medias Liga I 5 (5)
13 LASK T-Mobile Bundesliga 5 (22)
14 Liverpool Premier League 5 (34)
15 Platanias Second Division 5 (28)
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Anyone who finishes ahead of Spartak Subotica is doing well.
They have always been the benchmark as far as I'm concerned.
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Anyone who finishes ahead of Spartak Subotica is doing well.
They have always been the benchmark as far as I'm concerned.
Beijing Guoan for me, because that's what you'd shout if you'd backed a horse called Beijing.
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You have great insight and footy knowledge, SE.
But anyone who is anyone knows that.
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Winning Streaks in World Club football:
Team Tournament Streaks (Played)
1 Manchester City Premier League 10 (34)
2 Aston Villa Championship 9 (43)
3 Olympiacos Super League 8 (28)
4 Sporting CP Liga NOS 7 (30)
5 Almere City FC Jupiler League 6 (35)
6 Beijing Guoan Super league 6 (6)
7 Dynamo Kyiv Premier League 6 (22)
8 FC Porto Liga NOS 6 (30)
9 FK Crvena Zvezda Super Liga 6 (30)
10 FK Spartak Subotica Super Liga 6 (30)
11 Ajax Eredivisie 5 (31)
12 Gaz Metan Medias Liga I 5 (5)
13 LASK T-Mobile Bundesliga 5 (22)
14 Liverpool Premier League 5 (34)
15 Platanias Second Division 5 (28)
Man City lost at Tottenham. We should be top.
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There would be a really good joke in there along the lines of "cleaning out the opposition" or "foaming" or Greek mythology but Unilever stopped making Ajax the Foaming Cleanser so I pick Crvena Zevezda as the benchmark because they are worth most at Scrabble.
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Boro to squeak into sixth, play attritional football and somehow beat Leeds. Then be schooled like always, against us at Wembley.
That would be nice.
It’s exactly what my money is on.
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Winning Streaks in World Club football:
Team Tournament Streaks (Played)
1 Manchester City Premier League 10 (34)
2 Aston Villa Championship 9 (43)
Man City lost at Tottenham. We should be top.
Pretty sure they won...
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Winning Streaks in World Club football:
Team Tournament Streaks (Played)
1 Manchester City Premier League 10 (34)
2 Aston Villa Championship 9 (43)
Man City lost at Tottenham. We should be top.
Pretty sure they won...
I've just checked and Manchester City (one) defintely scored more goals than Spurs (none).
I have looked at the laws of the game and Law 10 states "The team scoring the greater number of goals is the winner. If both teams score no goals or an equal number of goals the match is drawn."
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-10---determining-the-outcome-of-a-match
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They lost the away leg.
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What about shoot outs? I was always taught that every law must be defined in time. Not correcting you ALita, but surely the law should state "af the conclusion of the match".
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It's league games only winning streaks.
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What about shoot outs? I was always taught that every law must be defined in time. Not correcting you ALita, but surely the law should state "af the conclusion of the match".
I don't make the laws, talk to the FA !
Anyway a bit more from law 10.
"Winning team
The team scoring the greater number of goals is the winner. If both teams score no goals or an equal number of goals the match is drawn.
When competition rules require a winning team after a drawn match or home-and-away tie, the only permitted procedures to determine the winning team are:
away goals rule
two equal periods of extra time not exceeding 15 minutes each
kicks from the penalty mark
A combination of the above procedures may be used
Kicks from the penalty mark
Kicks from the penalty mark are taken after the match has ended and unless otherwise stated, the relevant Laws of the Game apply."
Penalty mark ? Who calls it a mark ? According to the law, all of us calling it a spot have been wrong !
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Do we have a chance???, most certainly we do, however, it's right now we need to show the kind of quality that will take us up and keep us up, no slip ups, no nerves no naivety, do the job and get to the next stage and on we go.
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At the risk of offending you ALita, which is no way my intention, it seems odd that there is no "upon the conclusion of the duration of the game" in defining a won, lost or drawn game.
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At the risk of offending you ALita, which is no way my intention, it seems odd that there is no "upon the conclusion of the duration of the game" in defining a won, lost or drawn game.
I agree and you make an interesting point, and I'm not offended at all. Law 7 talks about the duration of the game but again no mention that the result is defined at the conclusion.
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It's league games only winning streaks.
I couldn't give one-infinitieth of a fuck. Man City have won three in a row, we have won nine.
Get them out of that table.
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Winning Streaks in World Club football:
Team Tournament Streaks (Played)
1 Manchester City Premier League 10 (34)
2 Aston Villa Championship 9 (43)
Man City lost at Tottenham. We should be top.
Pretty sure they won...
I've just checked and Manchester City (one) defintely scored more goals than Spurs (none).
I have looked at the laws of the game and Law 10 states "The team scoring the greater number of goals is the winner. If both teams score no goals or an equal number of goals the match is drawn."
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-10---determining-the-outcome-of-a-match
You understand the word "at", yeah? I wasn't referring to Man City being at home smartarse.
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Am I right in saying we are definitely in the play offs unless we lose our last two games and Derby win their last two and Bristol City win their last three whilst overturning our 15 goal difference advantage over them?
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Am I right in saying we are definitely in the play offs unless we lose our last two games and Derby win their last two and Bristol City win their last three whilst overturning our 15 goal difference advantage over them?
Which can't happen as they play each other. I can't see how we're not guaranteed.
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Am I right in saying we are definitely in the play offs unless we lose our last two games and Derby win their last two and Bristol City win their last three whilst overturning our 15 goal difference advantage over them?
We're in as Derby and Bristol City play each other.
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Same here. Just a matter now of which place we will fill.
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Actually it's guaranteed. Boro can't catch us. Derby can get 76 and if they do it means they'd beat Bristol City who could then only get 72. And if City beat Derby they could get 76 but Derby only 73.
Just whether it's 5th or 6th. One point should do it
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Sorry Bristol City 75
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Am I right in saying we are definitely in the play offs unless we lose our last two games and Derby win their last two and Bristol City win their last three whilst overturning our 15 goal difference advantage over them?
We're in as Derby and Bristol City play each other.
Cheers. I was actually already aware of that but had then forgotten that fact in the excitement of the day. :)
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So did I!
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And me!
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Just back from the game, so time to do the honours.
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