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Title: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 26, 2019, 02:43:34 PM
So...Jack to start or off the bench to drive us to victory?

I’ll go for 3-1 Villa - Jack to have a hand in both goals after the game is headed for a 1-1 draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 26, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
Derby have had a dip, they need to play a team who will help them out a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 26, 2019, 02:56:25 PM
Kallinic

Hause
Mings
Elphick
Elmo

Whelan

Hourihane
Grealish

Kodjia
Tammy
El Ghazi

2-1 Villa.

This is my son's first game, so I looking forward to it massively.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 26, 2019, 03:01:57 PM
Derby have had a dip, they need to play a team who will help them out a bit.

I was thinking just that after they lost last night!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on February 26, 2019, 03:10:17 PM
Kallinic

Hause
Mings
Elphick
Elmo

Whelan

Hourihane
Grealish

Kodjia
Tammy
El Ghazi

2-1 Villa.

This is my son's first game, so I looking forward to it massively.

Carroll is fit so would expect him to come in for Hooly or Whelan
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 26, 2019, 03:15:00 PM
It's my first match since 'Boro away and with the news about Grealish and Carroll I have suddenly become rather optimistic. Perhaps I can stand there and wonder what all the misery was about?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on February 26, 2019, 03:23:26 PM

This is my son's first game, so I looking forward to it massively.

Fantastic. I took my lad to his first game earlier in the season and all he does now is pester me to go again.  Hope they win for you, but no doubt the atmosphere will be enough. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on February 26, 2019, 03:46:10 PM
Villa 4 (Boulding, Shelton, McAvennie, Deakin) Derby 0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 26, 2019, 04:51:58 PM
Derby have had a dip, they need to play a team who will help them out a bit.

I was thinking just that after they lost last night!

I'm thinking it's the other way round for a change, getting to play Derby just as their annual implosion kicks into overdrive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 26, 2019, 05:07:59 PM
We can but hope...and then when we come up against Forest in a couple of weeks hopefully MON's "shit March" law will kick into effect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 26, 2019, 06:16:15 PM
Soon be on the beach lads.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 26, 2019, 06:42:37 PM
0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 26, 2019, 06:44:09 PM
Kallinic

Hause
Mings
Elphick
Elmo

Whelan

Hourihane
Grealish

Kodjia
Tammy
El Ghazi

2-1 Villa.

This is my son's first game, so I looking forward to it massively.

Hope he enjoys his day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 26, 2019, 07:03:58 PM
Kallinic

Hause
Mings
Elphick
Elmo

Whelan

Hourihane
Grealish

Kodjia
Tammy
El Ghazi

2-1 Villa.

This is my son's first game, so I looking forward to it massively.

How old is your son Ads?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 26, 2019, 07:05:56 PM
Cheers gents. He will be 4 at the end of April. Ever since he got a couple of Villa polo shirts and hats for Christmas he's been agitating like crazy to come. The ticket came in the post when we got back from nursery and his little face! He's clutching the receipt like ticket and I just hope we don't disappoint him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 26, 2019, 07:06:03 PM
Are the Family Fun Days still running? If so, take him to that before the match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 26, 2019, 07:10:24 PM
I think my kids have seen us win once, when we beat West Ham 1-0 under Sherwood.  I've taken them to about a dozen games since then, including the FA Cup and Play Off finals, and I'm not sure they've even seen us score a goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 26, 2019, 07:11:58 PM
I think my kids have seen us win once, when we beat West Ham 1-0 under Sherwood.  I've taken them to about a dozen games since then, including the FA Cup and Play Off finals, and I'm not sure they've even seen us score a goal.

You cruel, heartless man.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 26, 2019, 08:29:24 PM
Mine are old enough to tell me to do one when I ask if they want to come sadly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 26, 2019, 08:31:05 PM
Cheers gents. He will be 4 at the end of April. Ever since he got a couple of Villa polo shirts and hats for Christmas he's been agitating like crazy to come. The ticket came in the post when we got back from nursery and his little face! He's clutching the receipt like ticket and I just hope we don't disappoint him.

Hope you both have a great day. Nearly 10 years since my lads first game, a 1-0 win over Hull. One day short of his fourth birthday.

Amazingly, through all the shit that's followed, he's stuck with it and he'll be there with me on Saturday. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 26, 2019, 08:41:13 PM
My lad was 3 for his first game.  Now 19, he will be with me on Sat before dropping him off at  Bristol  Uni on the way home from the game. Nothing better than going to games with my Son.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 26, 2019, 09:28:33 PM
Can get BBC radio Derby so listened to their last two matches and they sound in as much of a slump as we are. Lost 1-0 at home to Millwall and didn't have a shot on target until 92nd minute. They barely created anything v Forest. Fans reaction afterwards was exactly like you get on here!

They are as dire as we have been so I think if we can start like we played second half at Stoke we could actually win 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Moose on February 26, 2019, 10:00:35 PM
We could be 5 pts off playoffs if we beat Derby and results go our way.....just sayin' like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on February 26, 2019, 10:22:06 PM
I’ve bought my daughter a ST for next year, she’s mad for it. Watches all sorts of lower league foreign matches on the TV when I want to watch Rick Steins Food Heroes.

We took her Spurs supporting friend to the Albion game hoping to convert her. We failed.

3 is very young though, I’d be amazed if he wasn’t bored senseless by half time. *Open goal for someone here*
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 26, 2019, 10:27:30 PM
There's been a fair few parallels between this season and our first down here and in that one we started a good run with an unconvincing win over a free falling Derby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 26, 2019, 10:46:48 PM
Expectations will be running high with Jack back so going to keep a lid on it. 2-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 26, 2019, 11:03:25 PM
Another draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: mallo on February 27, 2019, 09:11:15 AM
Heart says win, head says another draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: levico on February 27, 2019, 09:20:59 AM
Season’s over.

With or without Jack. 0-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 27, 2019, 11:52:20 AM
Surprise win. Well if it happens it will be a surprise to me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 27, 2019, 01:55:14 PM
Division quaking goal fest in our favour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 27, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
Cheers gents. He will be 4 at the end of April. Ever since he got a couple of Villa polo shirts and hats for Christmas he's been agitating like crazy to come. The ticket came in the post when we got back from nursery and his little face! He's clutching the receipt like ticket and I just hope we don't disappoint him.

Good luck mate. Hope we batter them and he keeps nagging you to take him to games. 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on February 27, 2019, 06:52:11 PM
Lost at home to Ipswich 1-0 my first game.  Isn't the result that was important. Was completeky bowled over by the stadium and the atmosphere.  Sure it'll be the same for your lad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 27, 2019, 07:33:08 PM
Ads - take a bag full of crisps, choc bars etc and be prepared for him to be a bit scared by the shouting. My lad was 4 when he first went, still comes now he's 20 whenever he's back from Uni.

Start of a great journey mate.

It's daft things they like - my lad used to enjoy watching the kids playing footy on the pitch at the side of trinity road, then when a little older he'd have half a hotdog and run around on the kids play area. Then the first time we got train to Aston that was exciting. Then it was his job to mark the team changes on the back page of the programme. It's about the whole day out. Envy you just starting that all again.

Hope we win it for him.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 27, 2019, 08:19:30 PM
Thanks for the tips. I figured food would be a good bet. An endless box of popcorn kept him glued to Lego Movie 2 the other week, so I'll have a bag stuffed full of treats.

I've had him watching the Autumn internationals previously by commentating to keep him engaged, so apologies to K3 residents for my likely non-stop wittering.

Feels like a rite of passage for him and me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 27, 2019, 10:00:01 PM
I think we all remember our first game, the noise, the smells the atmosphere.
I hope you have a great day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on February 28, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Still at least the weather promises to be worse than the match!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 28, 2019, 12:36:10 PM
Thanks for the tips. I figured food would be a good bet. An endless box of popcorn kept him glued to Lego Movie 2 the other week, so I'll have a bag stuffed full of treats.

I've had him watching the Autumn internationals previously by commentating to keep him engaged, so apologies to K3 residents for my likely non-stop wittering.

Feels like a rite of passage for him and me.
Started taking my eldest when he used to have to come on my shoulders as it was too far to walk from the car park. Used to take snacks and a tablet - he'd watch a bit of football and then play on the tablet when he was bored (luckily he missed most of the 6 -0 against Liverpool!!!)

He slowly got into and has watched the whole match since about age 5. Almost 8 now and wears a McGinn shirt and totally loves the Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on February 28, 2019, 12:46:30 PM
It definitely feels like a rite of passage.  Like you’re handing down a family tradition, regardless of the gallows humour (life time of disappointment etc!).  And definitely take snacks.  My lad was 6 on his first game and I ran out at half time!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 28, 2019, 12:48:47 PM
What's the record for the division for matches drawn in a season?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on February 28, 2019, 02:08:18 PM
I reckon we will start Jack so that will give us a boost and they are not playing that well so I'm going for a 2-0 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 28, 2019, 04:39:05 PM
Jack’s backs were winning this. We will look good on Saturday and even better when SJM returns.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 28, 2019, 06:40:07 PM
I’m a little concerned by the high expectation levels. I hope everyone remembers that this is his first game back and shouldn’t be overly negative if the performance isn’t improved immediately or if the result doesn’t go our way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 28, 2019, 07:17:38 PM
Ii'm expecting him to score a hat-trick and get a few assists, even if he's only on for 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 28, 2019, 07:26:32 PM
Andy King out injured for them.  Bit of a boost.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 28, 2019, 07:53:51 PM
Ii'm expecting him to score a hat-trick and get a few assists, even if he's only on for 20 minutes.

Wuss. Only a hat-trick? And if it is only three then one of the goals will be a 20 yard back heel volley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on March 01, 2019, 11:33:29 AM
What happened to James Chester? He was potentially in contention to play versus Sheffield Utd and has not been in a matchday squad or mentioned in injury updates since.

Has anyone heard anything?

I think Mings is great (performance and attitude), Hause looks promising and will get better, but Tommy Elphick still worries me. He is shot for pace, seems to lose concentration/positional sense, and makes several mistakes a game in my view. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on March 01, 2019, 12:00:26 PM
just fucking win Villa...so the journey back to East Anglia is bearable...

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on March 01, 2019, 02:03:49 PM
Is Abrahams injured?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on March 01, 2019, 02:13:37 PM
He's a Smurf isn't he?

If you mean Abraham, he posted on social media that he is fit
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: mike on March 01, 2019, 02:23:19 PM
I think we all remember our first game, the noise, the smells the atmosphere.
I hope you have a great day.

My first match was amazing because it was under floodlights. I'd never seen anything like that luminous green pitch. Sadly, my dad would didn't follow any team so as Villa were in the third division, it was at St Andrews which means I also remember a load of fighting and blokes covered in blood.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on March 01, 2019, 03:36:43 PM
only a win will do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on March 01, 2019, 09:27:27 PM
There could be a big concertina affect on the table the way the fixtures have lined up tomorrow:

Preston vs Bristol
Villa vs Derby
Hull vs Blose
Stoke vs Forest

If there are home wins in all those games then the chase for that 6th spot is still on!

Also Sheff Weds vs Sheff Utd will either mean the chasing pack is even tighter...or we’ll go above them and Baggies chase for automatic place will be all but over given the form of the top 3 clubs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: SirSteveUK on March 02, 2019, 03:44:58 AM
Andy King out injured for them.  Bit of a boost.

And Mount & Lawrence, I think
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 02, 2019, 04:16:19 AM
2-1 Villa.

Abraham with both.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 02, 2019, 07:36:29 AM
It's like Christmas Day in my house. I've been told several.times that we need to go or we're going to miss it apparently!

He's got a lot to learn about my time keeping!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on March 02, 2019, 07:47:16 AM
Big game, need a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 02, 2019, 07:59:30 AM
Come on the Villa starting 11!  A win please which hopefully triggers a long winning run of games. UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 02, 2019, 09:01:37 AM
1-2

We're coasting towards another massive squad turnover this summer and they're still fighting for the play offs and it'll show.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on March 02, 2019, 09:20:28 AM
I fancy us today. 2-0, Tammy double.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa75 on March 02, 2019, 09:23:45 AM
We're due a home win, surely?

We've only managed one home win in over three months!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on March 02, 2019, 09:39:03 AM
If we can take last weeks second half showing into today, we should win this one. I'll go for a nervy 2-1. Adomah and Abraham with ours.  Marco Gabbiadini for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 02, 2019, 09:41:36 AM
I've a feeling we'll click today and put in a massive performance.

3-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on March 02, 2019, 10:03:17 AM
Oh well an other Saturday of high hopes - come on villa please match them
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdward on March 02, 2019, 10:22:43 AM
I'm expecting a loss, so anything positive will be a bonus.
This season is becoming one to forget, if we win, it may just spark a late surge, if not forget it, and look forward to our 4th season down here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on March 02, 2019, 10:23:30 AM
He's a Smurf isn't he?

If you mean Abraham, he posted on social media that he is fit
thanks for pointing that out ....an errant "s"
My humble apologies for being so lackadaisical
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 02, 2019, 11:48:44 AM
We must, no excuses, 3-1, a magnificent valliant Villa victory, this is where it all comes together and we reconnect with the top 6 and a push for the play offs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on March 02, 2019, 11:54:43 AM
As always, if we give it our best I can accept the result.
Come on Villa, do us proud.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: brian green on March 02, 2019, 12:36:45 PM
Good luck with your lad today Ads.  Enjoy every second of it.  Before you know where you are he will be driving you to games.  I can't  believe it is nearly four years since you were posting that the baby was on his way. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 02, 2019, 12:39:59 PM
Thanks Brian. It has gone very quick, but I've been waiting for this day! We're in Brum now and will be heading up soon.

I fancy us today with Jack back and Max bringing the luck.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: brian green on March 02, 2019, 12:46:21 PM
The trick, if I can suggest it Ads is just to let him do whatever he wants.  If he wants to look at the mad people around him rather than Jack scoring a hat trick that is cool.  Plenty of time to become as mad as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on March 02, 2019, 01:16:52 PM
I was gonna go for a draw, but since Ads Junior is joining his Dad to make his Villa debut - I've gone for a cheeky home win!  8)

So 2-1 to the good guys.

UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 02, 2019, 01:27:17 PM
Lampard needs a win. I can't help but remember that Villa have always been very forthcoming when that Tory wanker needs something.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on March 02, 2019, 01:37:00 PM
Captain Jack then?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 02, 2019, 01:39:17 PM
Just read that about Jack too. Hope it really gives the whole place a lift, we can get a good hour out of him and get a much needed win. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Derby Pre Match Thread
Post by: JD on March 02, 2019, 07:39:32 PM
I've a feeling we'll click today and put in a massive performance.

3-0

Right on the ball RCF.
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