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Title: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 02:01:03 PM
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Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 02:03:05 PM
Too slow as usual...
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
I merged them wrong so it's this thread for the match.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 02:03:54 PM
4-4-2?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on February 23, 2019, 02:07:03 PM
A perfect mix of youth and experience!!!!
What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 23, 2019, 02:09:53 PM
A perfect mix of youth and experience!!!!
What could possibly go wrong?

The youth being...?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 23, 2019, 02:11:11 PM
Just outscore them Villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Stu on February 23, 2019, 02:12:13 PM
Just outscore them Villa.

Lmao
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
4-4-2?
That was my first thought.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 23, 2019, 02:13:12 PM
4-4-2?

Surely it can only be with that line up
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on February 23, 2019, 02:13:53 PM
Shudder.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on February 23, 2019, 02:14:43 PM
3 (possibly 4) out of the 11 are good enough.

Pathetic lineup.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: shipscat on February 23, 2019, 02:14:55 PM
Kalinic dropped/injured?
Surely he wouldn't be risked on the bench?
El Ghazi in the Grealish role..
I thought Green would have had a run wide right if Adomah is fancied for the left.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 23, 2019, 02:15:28 PM
4-4-2?

Surely it can only be with that line up

El Ghazi might play as a 'number 10' with Kodjia out wide. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on February 23, 2019, 02:17:13 PM
Hutton, captain. Why? A dreadful player.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 02:19:21 PM
Kalinic dropped/injured?
Surely he wouldn't be risked on the bench?
El Ghazi in the Grealish role..
I thought Green would have had a run wide right if Adomah is fancied for the left.


Kalinic is probably a precaution due to his concussion last week.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 02:26:44 PM
4-4-2?

Is it El Ghazi playing in behind Tammy? Whatever it is it's better than persevering with the same system. We have limited selection options, on an awful run of results so we might as well try something different and go for it.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Dazvillain on February 23, 2019, 02:27:45 PM
4-4-2?

Surely it can only be with that line up

El Ghazi might play as a 'number 10' with Kodjia out wide. 
Yes that’s confirmed
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CJ on February 23, 2019, 02:27:49 PM
Looks like 4-4-2, or maybe 4-1-4-1. Or kick and run. Just win Villa - lose this and we could be looking over our shoulders if other results go against us.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: remy on February 23, 2019, 02:29:12 PM
So let’s see for the umpteenth week:

Smith said we are going to get back on track - check
Hutton targeted so to be attacked down the right relentlessly - check
Hologram usual shit self - check
Whelan to run out of steam come 49th minute - check
Kodija can’t be arsed - check
Can’t get ball to Abrahams - check

2-0 down first half and hope they declare UNLESS
3-0 down first half then another 3 for a classy 6-0 defeat
All play offs fire firmly pissed on, Smith to say ‘bad day at office’
And roll on v Derby

Great to be a Villa fan, now in my glorious 32nd year!

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 23, 2019, 02:30:20 PM
Hutton, captain. Why? A dreadful player.

He can handle a game a week, it's when we play two he starts to mess up. He's been decent these last few (3) games. As for being captain, well, other than Mings there's nobody that seems to care as much. Least of our problems, Nik.

As for the team selection, who knows. What I do know is we need 3 points today. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: curiousorange on February 23, 2019, 02:31:07 PM
Kalinic dropped/injured?
Surely he wouldn't be risked on the bench?
El Ghazi in the Grealish role..
I thought Green would have had a run wide right if Adomah is fancied for the left.


Kalinic is probably a precaution due to his concussion last week.

Smith said he was still under a concussion protocol. Insert joke about team-mates here.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2019, 02:34:47 PM
because of injury/suspension and lack of options thats got to be the worst ever team put out in the last 40 years

you can thank me if we go and win now
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
A perfect mix of youth and experience!!!!
What could possibly go wrong?
The youth being...?
Well Whelan and Abraham have a 30 year age gap.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
Hutton, captain. Why? A dreadful player.
But he has lot of experience

Experience of being total shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on February 23, 2019, 02:37:31 PM
because of injury/suspension and lack of options thats got to be the worst ever team put out in the last 40 years

you can thank me if we go and win now

I see your 'worst team in 40 years' and raise you 'any starting 11 of KMac's choosing in the last 10'.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2019, 02:38:02 PM
A perfect mix of youth and experience!!!!
What could possibly go wrong?
The youth being...?
Well Whelan and Abraham have a 30 year age gap.

30 year gap between Abraham and the rest of the team near on
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2019, 02:41:49 PM
because of injury/suspension and lack of options thats got to be the worst ever team put out in the last 40 years

you can thank me if we go and win now

I see your 'worst team in 40 years' and raise you 'any starting 11 of KMac's choosing in the last 10'.

no Way have we ever put out a worser midfield than this

Whelan, Elmo, Hourihane, el Ghazi
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 23, 2019, 02:47:56 PM
because of injury/suspension and lack of options thats got to be the worst ever team put out in the last 40 years

you can thank me if we go and win now

I see your 'worst team in 40 years' and raise you 'any starting 11 of KMac's choosing in the last 10'.

no Way have we ever put out a worser midfield than this

Whelan, Elmo, Hourihane, el Ghazi

I don’t know 86-87 would give them a run for their money.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on February 23, 2019, 02:49:18 PM
because of injury/suspension and lack of options thats got to be the worst ever team put out in the last 40 years

you can thank me if we go and win now

I see your 'worst team in 40 years' and raise you 'any starting 11 of KMac's choosing in the last 10'.

no Way have we ever put out a worser midfield than this

Whelan, Elmo, Hourihane, el Ghazi


Smith making rod for his own back. Again. Crap.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2019, 02:50:50 PM
because of injury/suspension and lack of options thats got to be the worst ever team put out in the last 40 years

you can thank me if we go and win now

I see your 'worst team in 40 years' and raise you 'any starting 11 of KMac's choosing in the last 10'.

no Way have we ever put out a worser midfield than this

Whelan, Elmo, Hourihane, el Ghazi

I don’t know 86-87 would give them a run for their money.


Birchy was better than that midfield lot put together
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on February 23, 2019, 02:53:15 PM
Hutton, captain. Why? A dreadful player.
But he has lot of experience

Experience of being total shit.

Haha. Hope you're enjoying the cricket in Barbados mate. Have found a bar in Shibuya showing the Villa game. There are three Stoke fans here, replica shirts and all. They seem more dissatisfied with their team than we are with ours.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: brontebilly on February 23, 2019, 02:55:15 PM
So let’s see for the umpteenth week:

Smith said we are going to get back on track - check
Hutton targeted so to be attacked down the right relentlessly - check
Hologram usual shit self - check
Whelan to run out of steam come 49th minute - check
Kodija can’t be arsed - check
Can’t get ball to Abrahams - check

2-0 down first half and hope they declare UNLESS
3-0 down first half then another 3 for a classy 6-0 defeat
All play offs fire firmly pissed on, Smith to say ‘bad day at office’
And roll on v Derby

Great to be a Villa fan, now in my glorious 32nd year!

I'm assuming part of the thinking of playing Elmo is to give Hutton cover on the right. I'd be playing Green myself but it's a shocking indictment three years into our sojourn in the second tier that a Hutton/Elmo axis down the right is considered our best option. Same could be said for most of that squad to be honest.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Ducksworthy on February 23, 2019, 02:56:58 PM
If there's a stream going then do let me know - tried my usual channels and can't seem to find one!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: brian green on February 23, 2019, 02:57:36 PM
I agree with john e.  That is the worst team we have put out in my time.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:00:03 PM
Whelan vs Charlie Adam should be a lesson in athleticism and vibrant attacking play.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on February 23, 2019, 03:01:04 PM
So let’s see for the umpteenth week:

Smith said we are going to get back on track - check
Hutton targeted so to be attacked down the right relentlessly - check
Hologram usual shit self - check
Whelan to run out of steam come 49th minute - check
Kodija can’t be arsed - check
Can’t get ball to Abrahams - check

2-0 down first half and hope they declare UNLESS
3-0 down first half then another 3 for a classy 6-0 defeat
All play offs fire firmly pissed on, Smith to say ‘bad day at office’
And roll on v Derby

Great to be a Villa fan, now in my glorious 32nd year!

Lucky fucker....mine is 50 years plus.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 23, 2019, 03:02:04 PM
If there's a stream going then do let me know - tried my usual channels and can't seem to find one!

Same here.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:02:17 PM
This is the worst match thread in my time. Everything is always the worst ever.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:04:33 PM
Any chance of actually starting the match?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:07:02 PM
Hutton gets the ball twice, gives it away twice.  Rubbish.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2019, 03:07:21 PM
This is the worst match thread in my time. Everything is always the worst ever.

I think it's true though

Whelan, Elmo, Hourihane Ghazi in midfield you not getting any worse than that no matter how far you go back
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on February 23, 2019, 03:07:55 PM
This is the worst match thread in my time. Everything is always the worst ever.

I think it's true though

Whelan, Elmo, Hourihane Ghazi in midfield you not getting any worse than that no matter how far you go back

Dire
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
The "it's your round my lord" chant makes me cringe so much I nearly fold myself in half.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CJ on February 23, 2019, 03:09:25 PM
What a kick in the balls
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 03:09:29 PM
FOR FUCKS SAKE
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:09:44 PM
What a load of bollock that was for their goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:09:47 PM
There we go. Shit wankers.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:09:55 PM
1-0 down
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on February 23, 2019, 03:10:03 PM
Utterly hopeless
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CT on February 23, 2019, 03:10:11 PM
Stoke. Shit form. Very unhappy fans.

Time for a present.

Four fucking minutes!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:10:21 PM
Adomah on for Hutton who was off injured when they scored.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:10:34 PM
I really can't see Smith getting through the whole of March still in a job.  He's lost it utterly.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
Hope there’s a plan b for dealing with conceding an early goal?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:11:32 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:11:34 PM
On the wireless they're saying Elmo should have done better for the cross.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: alanclare on February 23, 2019, 03:11:35 PM
The "it's your round my lord" chant makes me cringe so much I nearly fold myself in half.
Couldn’t agree more.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: curiousorange on February 23, 2019, 03:11:48 PM
The more this stuff happens, the less chance there is of Smith getting that summer to rebuild. This form is completely miserable.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on February 23, 2019, 03:12:05 PM
Crap lineup, crap players, crap tactics, crap manager. Of course we're losing.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:12:25 PM
On the wireless they're saying Elmo should have done better for the cross.

True.  Mings didn't deal with his attacker either though.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Monty on February 23, 2019, 03:13:04 PM
Well hello there chaps I noticed the Villa are playing what's the sc - actually, fuck it.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:14:11 PM
I really can't see Smith getting through the whole of March still in a job.  He's lost it utterly.

I'm beginning to think the same. I know they will give him as much time as possible and they absolutely will not want to fire him but even with the injuries nobody would have seen it become this bad. He's starting to look like Garde did; lost without any way of fixing it.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pooligan on February 23, 2019, 03:14:54 PM
If your a club that is having a bad time then Aston Villa are just the team you want to play .Q P R have just ONE point in 2019,guess who that was against
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2019, 03:14:55 PM
I give up. Just like our defence.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:15:28 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.

The only small upside is that I'm sat out in the garden, in the warm early spring sunshine with a glass of wine.  Birds are singing, kids are playing with the puppy on the lawn, and Villa are as utterly fucking inept as ever! Shit, fuck, wank, bollocks!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:16:02 PM
Just fucking shoot Kodjia you arse.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:16:04 PM
He's got to start showing he's worth backing long term.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 03:16:33 PM
I cannot help but think there was some reason why Smiths first word in the presser yesterday was ‘togetherness’ in answer to the question what do we need to start winning and go on a run
He could have said a bit of luck luck or hard work, or a return of injured players but no, he chose togetherness.

That suggests to me that there is a lack of togetherness and he felt the need to say it
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2019, 03:17:34 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.

The only small upside is that I'm sat out in the garden, in the warm early spring sunshine with a glass of wine.  Birds are singing, kids are playing with the puppy on the lawn, and Villa are as utterly fucking inept as ever! Shit, fuck, wank, bollocks!

I couldn't even utter a loud profanity as I've taken my youngest daughter to Adventureland for the afternoon with her best friend.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:17:35 PM
That suggests to me that there is a lack of togetherness and he felt the need to say it

True Andy, very telling that.  Usually a sign of a manager feeling the pressure.  I don't think he's going to come out of the other side unfortunately.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2019, 03:19:02 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.

The only small upside is that I'm sat out in the garden, in the warm early spring sunshine with a glass of wine.  Birds are singing, kids are playing with the puppy on the lawn, and Villa are as utterly fucking inept as ever! Shit, fuck, wank, bollocks!

I'm looking for a corner sofa on line

it's more exciting
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on February 23, 2019, 03:19:13 PM
 Need to find some new swear words as I'm bored with the same ones each week but until then FOR FUCKS SAKE VILLA.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:19:54 PM
He's got to start showing he's worth backing long term.

Well that's just it. He was appointed with a long term plan in mind. To create what he had at Brentford on a grander scale. What the board must be thinking is that they will give this as long as possible and then make a decision whether to back him in the summer or cut ties at the end of the season and see who else might be out there. Someone like a Silva who may not last at Everton for example, even Jokanovic who might be worth a look. But this is fucking bad.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2019, 03:20:23 PM
Try combining them. Cuntybollocks.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:20:30 PM
Vokes gone off for them.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 03:20:31 PM
It’s got to be worth  fiver on the Rags finishing above us, even if the fuckers have  20 points deducted !
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:20:35 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.

The only small upside is that I'm sat out in the garden, in the warm early spring sunshine with a glass of wine.  Birds are singing, kids are playing with the puppy on the lawn, and Villa are as utterly fucking inept as ever! Shit, fuck, wank, bollocks!

I'm looking for a corner sofa on line

it's more exciting

We got one from Willow and Hall, John, have a look at them.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:20:44 PM
Need to find some new swear words as I'm bored with the same ones each week but until then FOR FUCKS SAKE VILLA.
The joys of being bilingual!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: curiousorange on February 23, 2019, 03:21:14 PM
I'm in the middle of writing a new book. Unfortunately it's not a murder mystery so I can't project my ire onto the characters.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:21:15 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.

The only small upside is that I'm sat out in the garden, in the warm early spring sunshine with a glass of wine.  Birds are singing, kids are playing with the puppy on the lawn, and Villa are as utterly fucking inept as ever! Shit, fuck, wank, bollocks!

At least you have that spring sun. It's -4 here, it's sunny, thankfully my girls are downstairs and my door is closed as I am lighting the air up with profanities.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2019, 03:21:16 PM
Vokes gone off for them.

Subbed or red card?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:21:54 PM
Vokes gone off for them.

Subbed or red card?

Subbed.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 23, 2019, 03:22:04 PM
Subbed, injured.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:22:21 PM
Vokes gone off for them.

Subbed or red card?
Injured.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 23, 2019, 03:22:30 PM
This is the worst match thread in my time. Everything is always the worst ever.

I think it's true though

Whelan, Elmo, Hourihane Ghazi in midfield you not getting any worse than that no matter how far you go back

Ray Walker and Darren Bradley?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:22:33 PM
We're just so utterly piss poor in every single game.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:22:53 PM
It's live commentary on WM if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on February 23, 2019, 03:23:07 PM
Need to find some new swear words as I'm bored with the same ones each week but until then FOR FUCKS SAKE VILLA.
The joys of being bilingual!
😀
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:23:26 PM
Woohoo we've got a corner. Villa are back, Villa are back, hello, hello.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Malandro on February 23, 2019, 03:23:34 PM
Bottling bastards.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:23:48 PM
When was the last time an El Ghazi final ball actually found a Villa player?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
Woo hoo, a Villa corner.

Oh to be taken by Whelan.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on February 23, 2019, 03:24:14 PM
He's got to start showing he's worth backing long term.

not picking a short term load of bollocks may help
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 23, 2019, 03:24:30 PM
Vokes gone off for them.

He will be a big loss. As Hughie Green always used to say "It's your Vokes that counts'.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pooligan on February 23, 2019, 03:24:48 PM
No manager can survive this sort of run we are having since the Sandwell match.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 23, 2019, 03:24:54 PM
Any chance of actually starting the match?

It's your fault.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:25:28 PM
It's been nearly 2 months since we had an away "scorchio".
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on February 23, 2019, 03:25:38 PM
Woo hoo, a Villa corner.

Oh to be taken by Whelan.

What a time to be alive.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: manic-road on February 23, 2019, 03:26:04 PM
When was the last time an El Ghazi final ball actually found a Villa player?

Wasn't long ago some were comparing him to Ronaldo, not the one that used to floss his teeth with a rope but the Portugese fella  ;D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:26:10 PM
Any chance of actually starting the match?

It's your fault.

Sorry.  They should have made the Banks tributes last 90 minutes then settled the game with rock, paper, scissors.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:26:47 PM
Any chance of actually starting the match?

It's your fault.

Sorry.  They should have made the Banks tributes last 90 minutes then settled the game with rock, paper, scissors.

We'd have lost that too
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 23, 2019, 03:27:23 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.

The only small upside is that I'm sat out in the garden, in the warm early spring sunshine with a glass of wine.  Birds are singing, kids are playing with the puppy on the lawn, and Villa are as utterly fucking inept as ever! Shit, fuck, wank, bollocks!

I'm looking for a corner sofa on line

it's more exciting

Would you like to come pick up a black ikea one from east london save me dismantling it this afternoon and taking it to Luton on our house move on Monday?

Maybe use match threads for furniture recycling rather talking about football?

Risso your day sounds nice apart from the football. I can’t even be arsed to find a stream.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Any chance of actually starting the match?

It's your fault.

Sorry.  They should have made the Banks tributes last 90 minutes then settled the game with rock, paper, scissors.

Smith would have picked cotton wool.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2019, 03:27:45 PM
Villa has made me hate football so much. It's like you set off for a trip to a town called Misery every week. 1-0 down, we've barely got going on the back of a massively shit run against a shit team.

The only small upside is that I'm sat out in the garden, in the warm early spring sunshine with a glass of wine.  Birds are singing, kids are playing with the puppy on the lawn, and Villa are as utterly fucking inept as ever! Shit, fuck, wank, bollocks!

I'm looking for a corner sofa on line

it's more exciting

We got one from Willow and Hall, John, have a look at them.

Thanks , will do
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on February 23, 2019, 03:28:39 PM
No manager can survive this sort of run we are having since the Sandwell match.

Indeed not for long - not picking that line up and not getting outplayed by mid table teams as we are now. Look likes another Lambert in the making
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:28:41 PM
It's such a fucking grind. And at any point they are going to go down the other end and bag the second.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:29:30 PM
Lose this, Derby home and sha away and I think he'll be under massive pressure.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 03:29:37 PM
We are starting to rack up some of those shitty records that we managed so often when we in the premier league.

But, on the plus side....Michelle Owen on Soccer Saturday.....😍
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 03:31:00 PM
im watchig the stream on a website for hair loss

I will lose my hair watching this crap so its not that weird to be honest
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:31:40 PM
We're 12th as it stands, 12 points behind a play off spot, having played 2 more games than Bristol.  If Boro and Bristol win their games in hand, we're 16 points behind the play off spots, which is completely and utterly unacceptable.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pooligan on February 23, 2019, 03:32:12 PM
Millwall 0 Preston 3 ,maybe we should go and get their manager ,mind you he would probably soon turn to shit if he came
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:32:25 PM
Adomah is fucking shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 03:32:35 PM
Sorry what chance has Smith got with this bunch of twats?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 03:32:36 PM
wasted opputunity there

phone spell
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:32:44 PM
We can't even do the basics right.

Adomah with a chance to break, touch of a T-Rex gives the ball straight back to Stoke.

Fucking useless.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:32:55 PM
Good fucking Lord. What a load of shit. Magnificently fucked up that breakaway.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 03:33:00 PM
Adomah is fucking shit.
He has been since Christmas 2017, Risso.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:33:32 PM
Sorry what chance has Smith got with this bunch of twats?

Not sure this bunch of twats have got much of a chance with Smith either to be honest.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:33:50 PM
"slow, slow, out of play". And there is a Villa attack these days summed up in a few words.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: frank black on February 23, 2019, 03:34:10 PM
Adomah is fucking shit.
He has been since Christmas 2017, Risso.

Weird he went from very good to shit in an instant didn’t he.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:34:27 PM
Five points behind Blues, and even that wanker Bruce is level on points as it stands with a game in hand.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: mr underhill on February 23, 2019, 03:34:35 PM
after a dreadful start Preston's good recent form continues. After a dreadful start, our recent dreadful form remains dreadful.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 03:34:43 PM
Adomah is fucking shit.
Has been for about. Year now and gets worse every time he plays , Bruce could have sold him but kept him against his wishes. Not been interested since.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:34:48 PM
Not one player in midfield is coming for the ball. Just watched Whelan asking Adomah to come for it and he didn’t. Then Elphick the same thing. No wonder we are a disaster and the rumours of there being dressing room discontent.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 03:35:16 PM
no wonder sturk fans clapping Whelan

hes been crap
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 03:36:02 PM
its that kit Im telling you

stop wearing it
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: danno on February 23, 2019, 03:36:14 PM
I suppose many of them know they're off at the end of the season. Still you'd think they'd put in some level of performance to get another contract somewhere else..
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: jwarry on February 23, 2019, 03:36:24 PM
Not one player in midfield is coming for the ball. Just watched Whelan asking Adomah to come for it and he didn’t. Then Elphick the same thing. No wonder we are a disaster and the rumours of there being dressing room discontent.

Have we got some then?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:36:45 PM
Christ almighty, this is desperate.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:36:53 PM
its that kit Im telling you

stop wearing it

We could change the kits to Barcelona and it would be the same.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
Something definitely doesn't seem right. The question is if it's because Smith and the coaches are shit, or are the players too shit and incapable of playing any better.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on February 23, 2019, 03:37:04 PM
Not one player in midfield is coming for the ball. Just watched Whelan asking Adomah to come for it and he didn’t. Then Elphick the same thing. No wonder we are a disaster and the rumours of there being dressing room discontent.

I'm not sure this bunch could even be arsed to be discontented.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: curiousorange on February 23, 2019, 03:37:46 PM
I'm not watching a stream, but all it seems to be is that we get the ball, and five seconds later Stoke get a throw-in.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:37:54 PM
Not one player in midfield is coming for the ball. Just watched Whelan asking Adomah to come for it and he didn’t. Then Elphick the same thing. No wonder we are a disaster and the rumours of there being dressing room discontent.

Have we got some then?

There have been comments made recently by some at the club about “togetherness”. Suggests we are lacking some.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:38:51 PM
"Part of the crap"
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 23, 2019, 03:39:10 PM
It’s fucking dismal, week in week out.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:39:20 PM
El Ghazi is like Gil, without the grit and determination.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:39:30 PM
Tammy Abraham has to wondering why the hell he stuck around for this shit
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 03:39:46 PM
Something definitely doesn't seem right. The question is if it's because Smith and the coaches are shit, or are the players too shit and incapable of playing any better.
I think the story that a number of players agents were told they were not part of the plan is plausible.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: curiousorange on February 23, 2019, 03:40:07 PM
35 minutes in, and you can already tell we've lost the game.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:40:15 PM
1 off target shot after more than half an hour, jeeze.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
Oh and I m glad we were there to give Vokes his first Stoke goal before he went off injured. Always charitable us.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:41:11 PM
Something definitely doesn't seem right. The question is if it's because Smith and the coaches are shit, or are the players too shit and incapable of playing any better.
I think the story that a number of players agents were told they were not part of the plan is plausible.

So none of them have any professional pride or interest in a contract elsewhere. I just don't buy it.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:41:50 PM
Something definitely doesn't seem right. The question is if it's because Smith and the coaches are shit, or are the players too shit and incapable of playing any better.
I think the story that a number of players agents were told they were not part of the plan is plausible.

They’re still professional players who in most castes will want to play beyond this contract. You’d think they would want to put themselves in a good position for the next deal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 03:42:38 PM
adomah u twat
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:43:31 PM
El Ghazi you are absolutely fucking shit
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on February 23, 2019, 03:43:33 PM
The promotion specialist is winning 3-0
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 03:43:45 PM
El ghazi  fook him off
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:43:54 PM
Oh great effort El Ghazi, really well done son. No honestly, smashing that.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:44:08 PM
El Ghazi is like Gil, without the grit and determination.
Based on that shot lacking the skill as well.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: django on February 23, 2019, 03:44:17 PM
El Ghazi is like Gil, without the grit and determination.

Ouch.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:44:38 PM
The promotion specialist is winning 3-0

Villa75 will be unbearable tonight
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:44:47 PM
Hause booked.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Malandro on February 23, 2019, 03:45:04 PM
We have the option on Ghazi, good. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:45:12 PM
The promotion specialist is winning 3-0

Stuart445 will be unbearable tonight

FTFY
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: devilla on February 23, 2019, 03:45:29 PM
El Khazi just skyed one over the bar from 16 yards out and unchallenged.

That was beyond shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 03:45:49 PM
Something definitely doesn't seem right. The question is if it's because Smith and the coaches are shit, or are the players too shit and incapable of playing any better.
I think the story that a number of players agents were told they were not part of the plan is plausible.

They’re still professional players who in most castes will want to play beyond this contract. You’d think they would want to put themselves in a good position for the next deal.
It happens, look at Chelsea, if players collectively decide not to give 2 fucks they don’t.
They have cast iron contracts and Agents.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 23, 2019, 03:46:12 PM
El Khazi blasts into Row Z. What was also shocking was Tammy had to do everything himself as there was nobody to pass to. Great work to find The Toilet.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:46:12 PM
I can't remember the last time I heard the commentators mentioned Kod.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 23, 2019, 03:47:48 PM
The promotion specialist is winning 3-0

Villa75 will be unbearable tonight

When isn't he?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: curiousorange on February 23, 2019, 03:47:54 PM
I'm sick of Kodjia's sulky bollocks. If he's the King then I'm happy to be a republican.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 03:48:08 PM
Adomah out fought and out thought there.

Pitiful
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:48:30 PM
I can't remember the last time I heard the commentators mentioned Kod.

He has however said "poor ball in" at least a dozen times now.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
The promotion specialist is winning 3-0

Stuart445 will be unbearable tonight

FTFY

Both of them. But yes Stuart will worse.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa75 on February 23, 2019, 03:48:45 PM
The promotion specialist is winning 3-0

Villa75 will be unbearable tonight

Why? He was as shit for us as this guy appears to be.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: django on February 23, 2019, 03:49:03 PM
Anyone got a link to this fiasco that they could pm me?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 03:49:34 PM
The shittiest keeper in the history of Villa - (Nyland) - would have spent½ second and thrown that ball to the other half - not letting them be in position.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:50:23 PM
We literally have no idea what we are doing.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:50:41 PM
"Another frustrating result Dean."

"Yes no, I thought we controlled the game well, and there was nothing in it."
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: dicedlam on February 23, 2019, 03:50:54 PM
Breathtakingly shite.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 03:51:13 PM
We literally have no idea what we are doing.
Literally?.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:51:40 PM
We've been shit since Nyland has been out the side. Coincidence? Yes because he was wank.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 03:52:13 PM
"Another frustrating result Dean."

"Yes no, I thought we controlled the game well, and there was nothing in it."
"Interviewer" : how would you fix this? What is the magic formula to transform poor players into great ones?
"Risso": "?"? ?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pooligan on February 23, 2019, 03:52:26 PM
It seems every thing is going wrong at the club.I  notice Davis is injured again ,been out injured give or take a week since last march ,so why let Hogan and RHM go out on loan or bring nobody in .Bad decisions are being made
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:53:19 PM
HT

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Urns
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:53:23 PM
What a dreadful half of football. We say this every week
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:53:42 PM
We're fucked if that was our good half.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 03:53:51 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:53:57 PM
"Another frustrating result Dean."

"Yes no, I thought we controlled the game well, and there was nothing in it."

The ref is going to be blamed for sure
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CT Villan on February 23, 2019, 03:55:30 PM
The only bright spot is the away support, which is frankly quite amazing given the rubbish served up every week of late.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Ads on February 23, 2019, 03:55:34 PM
Somebody has been sick at the back. Ergh.

We have been much too slow in moving the ball, but we are finding space.

Missed a sitter and have been guilty of some wasteful crossing and passes. Yet despite that, we look much better than Stoke, who are desperate. The goal was such poor timing.

Adomah is shocking. Swap him out and there's something in this for us.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 23, 2019, 03:55:44 PM
"Another frustrating result Dean."

"Yes no, I thought we controlled the game well, and there was nothing in it."

Can’t be helped not his players...
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:56:45 PM
Somebody has been sick at the back. Ergh.


Was it Mings when he realised how shit the midfield are?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 03:56:57 PM
It’s not just that we are losing.
It’s the fact we are now just a very poor imitation of shite Steve Bruce team.

I have found a stream and I wish I hadn’t. Watching Hourihane be the usual ****** that he is, is bad for my blood pressure.
Add, Adomah, el khazi and Kodjia to the mix and the veins in my neck are standing out.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
I see the team sheet and my heart sinks, you know exactly what the players are going to do.
The easy reaction is to sack the manager,and then what?
Sadly I think we have got to rebuild, it will be slow and he may not be the right guy but the next guy might not be either.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 03:58:20 PM
Bruce who couldn't create a thing with us is now 3 up with Sheff Wed and including a goal scored from an overhead kick. Smith’s old side Brentford have scored 3 vs Hull and are playing beautiful football.

We are fucking cursed
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 03:59:08 PM
Whoever the manager is, the one thing we have to do in the summer is get some sodding pace into the side. Physical and mental speed as we are so slow in everything.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: themossman on February 23, 2019, 03:59:11 PM
We’ve just been really unlucky 12 games in a row.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 04:00:42 PM
Whoever the manager is, the one thing we have to do in the summer is get some sodding pace into the side. Physical and mental speed as we are so slow in everything.
We have had no pace for a few years now.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CJ on February 23, 2019, 04:00:55 PM
Slow, pedestrian, predictable and sloppy. No goal threat, shit midfield, no passion.  Same as last week, and the week before that, and the week before that. Until we can put Jack and SJG back in that midfield I can't see anything changing.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:02:16 PM
I miss those days when the Mail would report Doug has called an emergency board meeting. Do they still have those because one must be around the corner.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 23, 2019, 04:03:24 PM
"Another frustrating result Dean."

"Yes no, I thought we controlled the game well, and there was nothing in it."

‘We started the first four minutes really well setting traps for the rats synonymous with Stoke.  Then we fall asleep and give someone of the quality of Vokes time to backheel into the net.  Apart from that and the other sixteen chances and four more goals they scored I thought there was nothing in the game.’
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 04:03:30 PM
It’s not just that we are losing.
It’s the fact we are now just a very poor imitation of shite Steve Bruce team.

I have found a stream and I wish I hadn’t. Watching Hourihane be the usual c*** that he is, is bad for my blood pressure.
Add, Adomah, el khazi and Kodjia to the mix and the veins in my neck are standing out.
Any coincidence that it SB players?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Malandro on February 23, 2019, 04:04:20 PM
Bruce who couldn't create a thing with us is now 3 up with Sheff Wed and including a goal scored from an overhead kick. Smith’s old side Brentford have scored 3 vs Hull and are playing beautiful football.

We are fucking cursed

Bruce is playing with another managers team, give him time.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 23, 2019, 04:04:36 PM

Absolutely dreadful so far. And that's being kind IMHO

Some of these fuckers aren't even trying i'm convinced of it.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 04:04:54 PM
It’s not just that we are losing.
It’s the fact we are now just a very poor imitation of shite Steve Bruce team.

I have found a stream and I wish I hadn’t. Watching Hourihane be the usual c*** that he is, is bad for my blood pressure.
Add, Adomah, el khazi and Kodjia to the mix and the veins in my neck are standing out.
Any coincidence that it SB players?

Smith's hardly the only manager in the Championship having to make do with the previous manager's players.  By some distance, he's making the worst job of it though.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:05:06 PM
I wonder how often Kod touched the ball that half as his name was rarely mentioned by the commentators.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on February 23, 2019, 04:05:12 PM
"Another frustrating result Dean."

"Yes no, I thought we controlled the game well, and there was nothing in it."

‘We started the first four minutes really well setting traps for the rats synonymous with Stoke.  Then we fall asleep and give someone of the quality of Vokes time to backheel into the net.  Apart from that and the other sixteen chances and four more goals they scored I thought there was nothing in the game.’
Vokes - really missed by Burnley

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:07:15 PM
Even allowing for them not being his players Smith has to be doing better than he has been.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CT Villan on February 23, 2019, 04:07:36 PM
Oh great...now they're playing Neil Diamond...Sweet Hourihane
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:08:12 PM
I wonder how often Kod touched the ball that half as his name was rarely mentioned by the commentators.

I've forgotten he is a Villa player. From superstar forward that we were worried about losing for 30m to anonymous winger who will leave for a couple of million in the summer. No club does player devaluation like us.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pooligan on February 23, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
I bet the Stoke fans could'nt believe it when they saw Whelan was playing ,he was finished two years ago and yet he is one of the first names on the team sheet under Smith.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:09:21 PM
W2 D7 L5 (as it stands) is simply unacceptable in division 2.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 04:09:27 PM
It’s not just that we are losing.
It’s the fact we are now just a very poor imitation of shite Steve Bruce team.

I have found a stream and I wish I hadn’t. Watching Hourihane be the usual c*** that he is, is bad for my blood pressure.
Add, Adomah, el khazi and Kodjia to the mix and the veins in my neck are standing out.
Any coincidence that it SB players?

Smith's hardly the only manager in the Championship having to make do with the previous manager's players.  By some distance, he's making the worst job of it though.
After 28 managers - we are just so shit of hiring the right ones - I think after 28 tries, we should continue to hire no 29 - because it HAS TO BE the manger.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 04:10:14 PM
I bet the Stoke fans could'nt believe it when they saw Whelan was playing ,he was finished two years ago and yet he is one of the first names on the team sheet under Smith.
Who would you put in his place?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 23, 2019, 04:10:46 PM
Even allowing for them not being his players Smith has to be doing better than he has been.

Precisely.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 04:10:48 PM
It’s not just that we are losing.
It’s the fact we are now just a very poor imitation of shite Steve Bruce team.

I have found a stream and I wish I hadn’t. Watching Hourihane be the usual c*** that he is, is bad for my blood pressure.
Add, Adomah, el khazi and Kodjia to the mix and the veins in my neck are standing out.
Any coincidence that it SB players?
That is now just becoming a very lazy and boring response.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 23, 2019, 04:11:22 PM
Sticking my head round the door, metaphorically speaking.

So it's business as usual.

Back to cleaning the kitchen then!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:11:32 PM
If we had dynamic players in front of him Whelan would be ok. It's that everyone else seems as slow as him that's the problem.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 23, 2019, 04:12:19 PM
I wonder how often Kod touched the ball that half as his name was rarely mentioned by the commentators.

I've forgotten he is a Villa player. From superstar forward that we were worried about losing for 30m to anonymous winger who will leave for a couple of million in the summer. No club does player devaluation like us.

No mention of the serious injuries that have ruined him i see

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 23, 2019, 04:13:19 PM
Well I wanted him and wanted to give him time to build his own team.  But my problem is there is absolutely no and mean no sign of anything resembling a team that has a plan, can score a goal and I literally don’t know where the next win is coming from.  I can see us getting tonked at the sty. 

You could have a team of actual donkeys and you still could’ve organised them better than this in the time he’s had.  It must be dressing room unrest.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:13:37 PM
I wonder how often Kod touched the ball that half as his name was rarely mentioned by the commentators.

I've forgotten he is a Villa player. From superstar forward that we were worried about losing for 30m to anonymous winger who will leave for a couple of million in the summer. No club does player devaluation like us.

No mention of the serious injuries that have ruined him i see


Whether it's through form, attitude, ability or injuries, a player that went 45 minutes doing nothing is going to be commented on.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:14:43 PM
I wonder how often Kod touched the ball that half as his name was rarely mentioned by the commentators.

I've forgotten he is a Villa player. From superstar forward that we were worried about losing for 30m to anonymous winger who will leave for a couple of million in the summer. No club does player devaluation like us.

No mention of the serious injuries that have ruined him i see



He had an injury as have many players. He came back from that and was punted out to the wing because we got in Abraham. He's not a winger. He's injury has played a role in his decline, but so has tactics employed since his return and he has to be accountable too. It's not just one thing.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on February 23, 2019, 04:14:54 PM
Brentford hammering Hull 4-1
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 23, 2019, 04:15:40 PM
Roll up roll up.  No matter how bad you are, no matter how long since you last scored, no matter when you last won. You are about to play the Villa. Rest assured, stand easy and collect your points.

We are a circus and have been since MON fucked off.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: dicedlam on February 23, 2019, 04:15:54 PM
It’s not just that we are losing.
It’s the fact we are now just a very poor imitation of shite Steve Bruce team.

I have found a stream and I wish I hadn’t. Watching Hourihane be the usual c*** that he is, is bad for my blood pressure.
Add, Adomah, el khazi and Kodjia to the mix and the veins in my neck are standing out.
Any coincidence that it SB players?
That is now just becoming a very lazy and boring response.

Nonetheless, it is still a fact.

A fact that probably, all these lazy bastards had it easy under him and now when asked to put a bit of graft in they start sulking.

Fucking footballers. wankers.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: themossman on February 23, 2019, 04:17:35 PM
Brentford hammering Hull 4-1

So to sum up the team our current manager built is playing well, the team being managed by our last manager is playing well but we are shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Bad English on February 23, 2019, 04:19:40 PM
Yes! I have to go and pick SWMBO up so I don't have to watch the rest of the game. Ace!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: mr underhill on February 23, 2019, 04:20:31 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: passport1 on February 23, 2019, 04:21:37 PM
Its just a thought but perhaps we should have kept our old manger managing his players and then brought in a new manager in the summer when he could sign his players. I know a bit radical.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ez on February 23, 2019, 04:21:46 PM
Were having our customary post half time spell of pressure.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:21:54 PM
According to the stats Kod has had 17 touches, Tammy 21. And we failed to play a single through ball that first half.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 23, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

Pure speculation though eh?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 23, 2019, 04:22:13 PM
It’s not just that we are losing.
It’s the fact we are now just a very poor imitation of shite Steve Bruce team.

I have found a stream and I wish I hadn’t. Watching Hourihane be the usual c*** that he is, is bad for my blood pressure.
Add, Adomah, el khazi and Kodjia to the mix and the veins in my neck are standing out.
Any coincidence that it SB players?
That is now just becoming a very lazy and boring response.

Nonetheless, it is still a fact.

A fact that probably, all these lazy bastards had it easy under him and now when asked to put a bit of graft in they start sulking.

Fucking footballers. wankers.

It's actually not fact, Kodjia and Adomah are De Matteo players and have both been very good at some point. The fact that they are now shit may not be entirely Smiths fault but the true fact is that neither have looked very good in Smiths time here, Kodjia maybe having a couple of good games and Adomah none.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Drummond on February 23, 2019, 04:23:17 PM
Smith needs to be kept on. He needs the space to do what needs to be done.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 23, 2019, 04:25:28 PM
He needs a full transfer window and a season with the squad he builds.

However, thus far it is deeply disappointing.

I've just been shopping, looked at the score, no surprise, looked on here and even less surprise.

It's not good enough, frankly.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 04:25:31 PM
wtf was that
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 04:26:08 PM
got to keep DS but this is tripe

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CT Villan on February 23, 2019, 04:26:35 PM
and that last piece of crap sums it up...Hologram tells Mings to hit it long...straight out of play.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:27:12 PM
SCOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CJ on February 23, 2019, 04:27:32 PM
YYYYYYYYYYeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss. Get in
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:27:36 PM
Great from El Ghazi and Albert scores.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 04:27:41 PM
Goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:27:45 PM
Thank fuck
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 23, 2019, 04:27:51 PM
BBC reckon our play off hopes are fading. Pessimistic wankers.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 23, 2019, 04:27:58 PM
Adomah!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 04:28:00 PM
Adomah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Great finish on the break.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on February 23, 2019, 04:28:07 PM
Albert at last
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:28:16 PM
That was a decent move. Good goal. Let's go and fucking win this Villa
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 23, 2019, 04:28:17 PM
About frigging time!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 04:28:30 PM
gooalllllll
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 23, 2019, 04:28:37 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

Surely all those whose contracts are up would be told? Isn't there some rules regarding allowing players to look for a move if they've entered their final year and not been offered an extension?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
Adam nearly lobs Steer
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 23, 2019, 04:29:05 PM
Right now fucking win.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Dazvillain on February 23, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
What a cracking move and finish !!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:29:26 PM
Butland makes a good save from Tammy
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: manic-road on February 23, 2019, 04:29:34 PM
Adam nearly lobs Steer

Who was it that lobbed Seaman?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: devilla on February 23, 2019, 04:29:38 PM
Great move and a good goal. Fair play, great run by El Ghazi set that up.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ez on February 23, 2019, 04:29:46 PM
Wayhay
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:30:13 PM
Charlie Adam subbed.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 04:30:20 PM
Abraham nearly scores witha header. Good save from Butland.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 23, 2019, 04:30:27 PM
Smith needs to be kept on. He needs the space to do what needs to be done.

I agree Drummond, he's been given the chance by the board and therefore should be given a proper chance.

Personally, I think you've got more chance of bottling fog than it ending well but we have to do things properly and there's no guarantee the next one or the one after will do the business anyway.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on February 23, 2019, 04:30:33 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

A CEO stating on national radio that promotion this season wasn't a necessity doesn't set the aspirational bar very high.  I wonder if that has been a factor in altering the winning mindset inside the club.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:30:39 PM
This is better.

Our first away goal of 2019. It's nearly fucking March
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ez on February 23, 2019, 04:30:52 PM
Is that our first away goal this year?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Malandro on February 23, 2019, 04:31:22 PM
Charlie Adam subbed.

He’s off to fix a leaking tap.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:32:26 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

A CEO stating on national radio that promotion this season wasn't a necessity doesn't set the aspirational bar very high.  I wonder if that has been a factor in altering the winning mindset inside the club.

Since we came down everything has been short term thinking to the point we nearly went broke,. So I don't agree with that at all. He said that we needed to build properly so in that context the pressure wasn't on to go up this season. It's very, very different to waving a white flag regarding our ambition.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:34:15 PM
We're all over them, which can only mean one thing. A Stoke winner in added time.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 23, 2019, 04:34:43 PM
that was clsoe
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 23, 2019, 04:35:31 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

A CEO stating on national radio that promotion this season wasn't a necessity doesn't set the aspirational bar very high.  I wonder if that has been a factor in altering the winning mindset inside the club.
wasn't the cleverest statement to make mid season
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CT Villan on February 23, 2019, 04:35:43 PM
Wow, we just turned into a Smith team, short passes and some movement off the ball.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Small Rodent on February 23, 2019, 04:35:54 PM
Are we raining fists on them?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: themossman on February 23, 2019, 04:37:17 PM
Wow, we just turned into a Smith team, short passes and some movement off the ball.

Confidence counts for so much in football.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:37:27 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

A CEO stating on national radio that promotion this season wasn't a necessity doesn't set the aspirational bar very high.  I wonder if that has been a factor in altering the winning mindset inside the club.
wasn't the cleverest statement to make mid season

Considering the mess we were in a few months earlier i'm not sure how people expected him to answer the question he was asked.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 23, 2019, 04:37:50 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

A CEO stating on national radio that promotion this season wasn't a necessity doesn't set the aspirational bar very high.  I wonder if that has been a factor in altering the winning mindset inside the club.

From the day MON left I can't actually recall a 'winning mindset' at the club. I also think the often trotted out quote regarding promotion not being a necessity has been mistaken for a lack of ambition whereas I think the comment was made to calm any fears of financial problems if we don't go up this year. So far the powers that be have stopped us from going bust, given the manager they inherited a reasonable shot, appointed the guy so many fans wanted and are now giving him a reasonable shot. Cherry picking certain quotes to back up our current frustration regarding results is unfair in my opinion.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:39:31 PM
It was a question and answer about the finances but some will run with it in the direction that suits them.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 04:39:38 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

A CEO stating on national radio that promotion this season wasn't a necessity doesn't set the aspirational bar very high.  I wonder if that has been a factor in altering the winning mindset inside the club.

From the day MON left I can't actually recall a 'winning mindset' at the club. I also think the often trotted out quote regarding promotion not being a necessity has been mistaken for a lack of ambition whereas I think the comment was made to calm any fears of financial problems if we don't go up this year. So far the powers that be have stopped us from going bust, given the manager they inherited a reasonable shot, appointed the guy so many fans wanted and are now giving him a reasonable shot. Cherry picking certain quotes to back up our current frustration regarding results is unfair in my opinion.

Quite right Damo
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: brian green on February 23, 2019, 04:40:33 PM
Quite right Damo
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 23, 2019, 04:40:40 PM
Spot on, Damo.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2019, 04:42:22 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:42:31 PM
Blackburn take the lead at the Sty.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: NorthYvillan on February 23, 2019, 04:42:43 PM
Sorry but MON was first and foremost a "not losing" manager
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2019, 04:43:09 PM
Blackburn take the lead at the Sty.
Not for long
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:43:30 PM
Sorry but MON was first and foremost a "not losing" manager

No one said he was, "from the day he left".
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 04:43:32 PM
This half has been the best we've played in a while.  Still not great, but an improvement nonetheless.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on February 23, 2019, 04:43:36 PM
Blackburn take the lead at the Sty.
And then Blues equalise
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 23, 2019, 04:44:18 PM
Bloody hell!

Come back on here and we've equalised!

Dare to dream???,
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 23, 2019, 04:44:28 PM
 Thanks. In three minutes I have just been told I am right more times than I have in twenty years of marriage. ;)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 04:45:41 PM
Stoke are awful.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:45:58 PM
This half has been the best we've played in a while.  Still not great, but an improvement nonetheless.

It's belief. It's also what Jack brings to the team. We play so much higher up with him in the line up and McGinn behind working his bollocks off. Make Hourihane better too.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:46:33 PM
Stoke have settled for a draw and are trying to shut up shop.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:47:20 PM
Stoke have settled for a draw and trying to shut up shop.

I've seen this movie before as Villa fan only to concede late on. Usually we are playing anyone you can care to mention but certainly Man U comes to mind.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Mother fucker! NO 14 did a crunching tackle!!! I LOVE HIM NOW
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:48:11 PM
Holy shit. Aggressive sliding challenge from Hourihane
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 04:48:19 PM
A tackle from Hourihane.

Surely a sign that's it's nearly the end of days!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:48:54 PM
A tackle from Hourihane.

Surely a sign that's it's nearly the end of days!

I think I saw a frog land on my lawn from a cloud
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 04:49:04 PM
Mother fucker! NO 14 did a crunching tackle!!! I LOVE HIM NOW
If he adds this to his set plays - then he is an asset!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 23, 2019, 04:49:59 PM
Mother fucker! NO 14 did a crunching tackle!!! I LOVE HIM NOW
If he adds this to his set plays - then he is an asset!!

Better that than him being an asshole!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:50:11 PM
Andre Green on for Albert
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2019, 04:50:22 PM
Mother fucker! NO 14 did a crunching tackle!!! I LOVE HIM NOW
If he adds this to his set plays - then he is an asset!!

Something about swallows and summer Edvard!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 04:50:29 PM
Green on for Adomah
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:51:00 PM
Mings is so solid at this level
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 04:51:45 PM
Mother fucker! NO 14 did a crunching tackle!!! I LOVE HIM NOW
If he adds this to his set plays - then he is an asset!!

Something about swallows and summer Edvard!
Martin - please  - I am in my "trying to be positive" period :D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:52:32 PM
Two piss poor corners from Conor
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 23, 2019, 04:52:45 PM
Green on for Adomah

A sub, subbed. One for the historians, when did that last happen at Villa?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 04:53:08 PM
Mings is so solid at this level
Best player in the squad bar Jack and the other guy from scotland whom i forgot name of
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2019, 04:53:36 PM
2 corners from our free kick specialist both don’t beat the first man and how many useless free kicks today?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 23, 2019, 04:53:47 PM
Mings is so solid at this level
Best player in the squad bar Jack and the other guy from scotland whom i forgot name of

Hutton.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on February 23, 2019, 04:53:54 PM
if it really is true that certain players were told they were going to be surplus to requirements in January then it was the most staggeringly inept piece of man management ever.

A CEO stating on national radio that promotion this season wasn't a necessity doesn't set the aspirational bar very high.  I wonder if that has been a factor in altering the winning mindset inside the club.

From the day MON left I can't actually recall a 'winning mindset' at the club. I also think the often trotted out quote regarding promotion not being a necessity has been mistaken for a lack of ambition whereas I think the comment was made to calm any fears of financial problems if we don't go up this year. So far the powers that be have stopped us from going bust, given the manager they inherited a reasonable shot, appointed the guy so many fans wanted and are now giving him a reasonable shot. Cherry picking certain quotes to back up our current frustration regarding results is unfair in my opinion.

Point accepted.  I just don't think it was a particularly helpful comment because if fans can interpret it in one of two ways, you can bet those on the playing side have done as well.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CT on February 23, 2019, 04:53:57 PM
Green on for Adomah

A sub, subbed. One for the historians, when did that last happen at Villa?

Angela at home to SHA
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Steve67 on February 23, 2019, 04:55:09 PM
Green on for Adomah

A sub, subbed. One for the historians, when did that last happen at Villa?

Angela at home to SHA

Blimey, two in a season! Well spotted than man!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:55:30 PM
4 mins added time
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 23, 2019, 04:55:32 PM
I've seen this movie before as Villa fan only to concede late on. Usually we are playing anyone you can care to mention but certainly Man U comes to mind.

I said the same thing at half time (2-0 up) in the 3-2 defeat to Man Ure when Hernandez scored the late winner. It prompted my favorite line on H&V where someone posted that it was like a version of WWII where the Nazis always win.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 23, 2019, 04:56:30 PM
I've seen this movie before as Villa fan only to concede late on. Usually we are playing anyone you can care to mention but certainly Man U comes to mind.

I said the same thing at half time (2-0 up) in the 3-2 defeat to Man Ure when Hernandez scored the late winner. It prompted my favorite line on H&V where someone posted that it was like a version of WWII where the Nazis always win.

That's a brilliant line.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 23, 2019, 04:57:23 PM
Mings is so solid at this level
Best player in the squad bar Jack and the other guy from scotland whom i forgot name of

Hutton.
Best response ever ! haha

Super McGinn
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:57:36 PM
Butland with a finger tip save from Mings
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
fucking hell, Mings close.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Malandro on February 23, 2019, 04:57:51 PM
A good away point.


If you like meaningless away points.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 23, 2019, 04:58:13 PM
Mings so unlucky with that header.

Another good save from Butland.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 04:59:19 PM
Mings so unlucky with that header.

Another good save from Butland.

It's all about the finest margins. Yet a similar chance last week loops over our 6'7" keeper
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 23, 2019, 04:59:39 PM
FT
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 05:00:05 PM
Game over. We played better this half but still not at all good enough overall
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa match thread
Post by: CT Villan on February 23, 2019, 05:00:58 PM
Game over. We played better this half but still not at all good enough overall

Agree !
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