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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on February 16, 2019, 02:00:56 PM
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We go again...Glenn Whelan keeps his place so expect the same results. But hope springs eternal. Elmo is back to add to the errors. Yay!!
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Ahmed and Green on the wings?
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451?
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Is Davis injured again ?
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I think Elmo is much maligned and it's good to see Green starting but our issue is the midfield and I can see this being the issue again this afternoon.
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Is Gaz Baz back at his home?
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Gaz Baz playing for Sandwell. They have 4-3-3.
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Why is Hutton captain? Incredible really.
Anyway, come on Villa!
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Deckchairs titanic shuffling.
With such a poorly balanced squad not really sure what can be done atm. At least he is trying something rather than do nothing.
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Sigh.
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Turns off router. Hides.
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Looks an, erm, underwhelming first 11. Prove me wrong !!
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Do ‘people’ watch the games on their phones? I’m asking for a friend.
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Well as long as AT and Jack are injured it will always look very uninspiring. Not only had Bruce left us completely sparce at the back but we’re so limited in midfield. I had even realised until recently what an old squad we have now. It’s all very depressing and I can’t wait until next season.
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Sigh.
This.
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Well as long as AT and Jack are injured it will always look very uninspiring. Not only had Bruce left us completely sparce at the back but we’re so limited in midfield. I had even realised until recently what an old squad we have now. It’s all very depressing and I can’t wait until next season.
This as well.
On the tumbril, sorry the train now...
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Fear the worst, hope for the best
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Its a frightening looking line up.
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That is one strange team selection. I've no idea what Dean is looking to do there; 451 or 442 but definitely packing out the midfield. It might just work. Stranger things have happened with weird team selections but right now I can only see us scoring when players are introduced from the bench as right now it's Tammy or bust.
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I have zero anticipation or excitement towards this game - is that wrong?
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Its a frightening looking line up.
Theirs, ours or both?
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Do ‘people’ watch the games on their phones? I’m asking for a friend.
Yes , I , erm I mean my friend ‘watches’ away games on here. My missus says it’s very sweary.
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Its a frightening looking line up.
Theirs, ours or both?
Ours unfortunately. I haven't seen theres.
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Do ‘people’ watch the games on their phones? I’m asking for a friend.
Yes , I , erm I mean my friend ‘watches’ away games on here. My missus says it’s very sweary.
Thanks, I will tell them
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We go again - the season can't finish soon enough
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The small
heath clones time twats have a post on their official Twitter account asking for their fan's favourite VP memory, the video that accompanies it is of an equaliser.
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The small heath clones time twats have a post on their official Twitter account asking for their fan's favourite VP memory, the video that accompanies it is of an equaliser.
Stern Robinson?
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When I left Crump junior’s house in Halesowen deep in Stripey territory it was Spring like and sunny. Now in the Trinity Lower it’s cloudy , grey and feels 10 degrees colder. Hope that’s not an omen.
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I'm so looking forward to Hutton, Whelan, Green, Hologram playing again and again and again. This season really cannot end soon enough and we upgrade on some of these players.
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I have a Croatian stream of the match if anyone wants it.
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Just reading the same old and tired team sheet every week is so depressing. 2 changes from quite possibly one of the worst performances ive seen......one of them is a mid 30s Egyptian RB coming in to play AMR. Sigh.
Was it possibly worth recalling Tshibola, a young big, powerful, mobile CM, surely he's gotta be more useful than this Glenn Whelan hell hole we cant escape?
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I have a Croatian stream of the match if anyone wants it.
Yes please
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Most of their bench would make our first eleven sadly.
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Just reading the same old and tired team sheet every week is so depressing. 2 changes from quite possibly one of the worst performances ive seen......one of them is a mid 30s Egyptian RB coming in to play AMR. Sigh.
Was it possibly worth recalling Tshibola, a young big, powerful, mobile CM, surely he's gotta be more useful than this Glenn Whelan hell hole we cant escape?
I agree. I was a bit surprised that we didn't recall Tshibola so Smith could have a good look at him before we discard him completely. He must be super shit if he cannot complete with some of the clowns we are playing now.
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Well if that is the best team we can field then we are in deep shit.
Fukien Hologramm again.
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Most of their bench is shit.
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If anybody fancies watching this with English commentary let me know.
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Most of their bench is shit.
Most of our team is.
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Just reading the same old and tired team sheet every week is so depressing. 2 changes from quite possibly one of the worst performances ive seen......one of them is a mid 30s Egyptian RB coming in to play AMR. Sigh.
Was it possibly worth recalling Tshibola, a young big, powerful, mobile CM, surely he's gotta be more useful than this Glenn Whelan hell hole we cant escape?
Don't wiorry Jedinaknakered and Taylor are on the bench
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I know he won't but I would give Ramsay a go if we are struggling.
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If anybody fancies watching this with English commentary let me know.
Yes please
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We once had a midfield containing players of Gareth Barry's ilk. We now resort to Whelan and Hourihane. Us 1-3 Tesco Bags
Personally, I think it'll be a surprise (a pleasant one), if we get anything out of today. :(
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Sheff United already scored. Probably don't have to worry about them any more.
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Fuck me theirs some miserable feckers around. We'll twat these gimps.
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I have a Croatian stream of the match if anyone wants it.
Could I grab one please Axl?
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Good move from us there.
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I have a Croatian stream of the match if anyone wants it.
oh please...i love foreign commentary!!
Yes please
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If anybody fancies watching this with English commentary let me know.
Yes please, mate. Rather that than Croatian.
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Good from Tommy
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Christ, Tommy Elphick saves us.
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If anybody fancies watching this with English commentary let me know.
Yes please, mate. Rather that than Croatian.
Yes please Axl. Thanks.
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Feels a lifetime ago but that defence with Sam Johnston’s in goal and Terry captaining the side had 22 clean sheets.
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Feels like less than a year ago to me :P
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Tammy should have scored there.
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Should be 1 up there.
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fucking hell Tammy
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Fuck what an opportunity that was for us
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That’s why he ain’t playing for Chelsea
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he has to be scoring that
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Fuck me, a golden opportunity for Tammy.
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Has to score there ffs
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What the fuck? We actually play like we care
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Terrible first touch from Tammy there
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End to end stuff from the start and Abraham should have put us ahead.
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Hause so far looks a lot more solid today at LB
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That side is truly pants.
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Bad touch by Tammy there - Let Johnston in. Keep going lad!
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Elmo, 14 - both started well..
Our fucking defense keep playing ping-pong ending with a pass putting keeper under pressure. Why - just fucking why.
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Can anyone PM me a stream please?
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They give the ball away almost as much as we do.
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Can anyone me a stream please?
Not really the right post no 2...
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We’ve done ok so far. I just think Albion look much more confident on the ball, and that probably comes from having much more confidence in themselves.
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whats the point in that cross Hutton - useless
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Alan Hutton really is shit
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How's that not a booking for Holgate?
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Tammy lucky not to get totally brained there. Surely a booking.
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Had to switch streams and the new one has the worst sound quality possible.
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Rodriguez really is a scrotum
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Has this ref forgotten his fucking cards?
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Green looks sharp today. How the fuck is that not a yellow?
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How is that not a yellow?
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I'm not normally one to criticise refs but they should have had two yellows by now FFS.
Wicked cross from Hourihane.
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Kalinic with another butterfingers moment. Could have been costly.
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Shit ref again.
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Fuck me Kalinic
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I'm not normally one to criticise refs but they should have had two yellows by now FFS.
Wicked cross from Hourihane.
You can guarantee that we'll have players in the book at the first opportunity.
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Bloody hell Kalinic.
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Is that us taking the game to the opposition?
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A much better performance so far from us. Keep it up, Villa.
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
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Apparently since relegated we’ve only lost 7 times at Villa Park yet somehow we remain in this poxy league
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Camera panning across the West Brom fans...
Any Red Dead Redemption fans on here might recognise them as the spitting image of the Murfree Brood gang.
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
If some of them are shit - and they are - I think I and everyone else have the right to say so.
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That's 3 challenges that could've resulted in a yellow...bet the first tap of the stripey filth ankles results in one for us
We're giving the ball away poorly at times..and handing them opportunities out of nothing..and we'll get punished..
We've got to make our delivery from set pieces spot on today
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We’re becoming very sloppy now and in the wrong parts of the pitch
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Come on you fuckers! Get the fuck into these Yam Yam inbreds!
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Nyland is shit.
:P
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Finally a booking for that niggly fucker Holgate.
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I have a Croatian stream of the match if anyone wants it.
Hey Axl yes (da) please I intend on going there for a holiday so that would tie in perfectly - hvala (thank you)
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Another good delivery from Hourihane. Tammy getting wrestled in the box.
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Tyrone fucking Mings. Beast
And after all those Albion fouls he gets a yellow for protesting the corner. FFS
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Pointless booking for Mings. Bloody good challenge though.
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Go on Mings!
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
If some of them are shit - and they are - I think I and everyone else have the right to say so.
Yeah? Really? I haven't fucking noticed - I logged on here to find out who is shit.
So - is Mings less shit?
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Holgate is lucky to still be on the pitch..
Set pieces vital today..I think they're vulnerable to a collective switch off at them
Great recovery MIngs..daft yellow card
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Fuck me we are so wasteful. Hause looking so much better today
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
If some of them are shit - and they are - I think I and everyone else have the right to say so.
Yeah? Really? I haven't fucking noticed - I logged on here to find out who is shit.
So - is Mings less shit?
"Leave Britney alone!!!"
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Got a cheeky wager on Kourtney bagging a goal today (nailed on with his Doghead ties).
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Still end to end stuff and Green is looking good for us.
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
If some of them are shit - and they are - I think I and everyone else have the right to say so.
Yeah? Really? I haven't fucking noticed - I logged on here to find out who is shit.
So - is Mings less shit?
"Leave Britney alone!!!"
Due a warning...
F.....
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That was fantastically shit by Kalinic. Shit even by Bosnich standards.
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
If some of them are shit - and they are - I think I and everyone else have the right to say so.
Yeah? Really? I haven't fucking noticed - I logged on here to find out who is shit.
So - is Mings less shit?
Would you be kind enough to stop fucking swearing? It's getting on my fucking nerves.
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the hause has been better
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It’s actually quite nice to point out that a few of our players are doing well, Hause, Green SJM Ming’s
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We look so devoid of ideas in the final third. Everything is knock it wide get a cross in. No diagonal runs, nobody attacking the box through the middle. So frustrating because the opponents know it and they double up every time on our wide players,
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Hause booked.
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
If some of them are shit - and they are - I think I and everyone else have the right to say so.
Yeah? Really? I haven't fucking noticed - I logged on here to find out who is shit.
So - is Mings less shit?
Would you be kind enough to stop fucking swearing? It's getting on my fucking nerves.
Fuck! didn't notice - must be auto-fucking-complete - fucking sorry.
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Fuck. Green nearly gifts them a chance
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Another absolutely ametuer referee.
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It’s actually quite nice to point out that a few of our players are doing well, Hause, Green SJM Ming’s
Get out! what the fuck! - it is only shit players we are talking about.
Honestly - we have a few players that actually are doing quite well today - so I am fucking pissed only reading about "shit keeper, shit this shit that"
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Don't try a scissor kick clearance, Green you numpty!
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Green with an interesting attempt at a clearance!
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Oh well done Hause. FFS.
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I'll say one thing for Kalinic, he can kick it a long way. And sometimes it even stays in play.
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Fuck the fuck off you ******. Robson shitehawk fucking Kanu.
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Baggie tossers!
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Fuck off
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Could we please - just please - not just comment on "x is shit" ?
It is fucking horrible enough as it is - Please stop
If some of them are shit - and they are - I think I and everyone else have the right to say so.
Yeah? Really? I haven't fucking noticed - I logged on here to find out who is shit.
So - is Mings less shit?
Would you be kind enough to stop fucking swearing? It's getting on my fucking nerves.
Fuck! didn't notice - must be auto-fucking-complete - fucking sorry.
No fucking worries. ;)
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Bollocks
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Gift.
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Goalkeeper is shit
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All of them are fucking shit!
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There we go. Great.
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Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. ::)
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To be fair that was a brilliant header. Defending leading up to it was shit though.
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Soft fucking goal.
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Bastards
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Oh yeh Hologram is still shit.
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Another day in a mostly lost decade
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By the response I take it we've conceded?
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If things don't pick up soon, I think Smith won't last the season. There's just no sign of any improvement whatsoever.
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Green should have closed thd cross down
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Game over. And it's that fucker Rodrigez.
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Fucking hell Villa!
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Hologram defending
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They've been a bit more aggressive than us.
If we match them in that area, we'll still win this. Maybe.
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This shit has to stop.
How many games since October have we conceded 2+ goals now.
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Okay - bye - i agree - all fucking shit
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Oh shit!
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They've been a bit more aggressive than us.
If we match them in that area, we'll still win this. Maybe.
No we won’t.
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Complete shit, fucking twats.
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Rodriguez. Trying to do the cupped ear celebration. Fuck off
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I am sick to fucking death of this
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Hourihane you fucking wanker!! Get him off that pitch Smith!!
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Oh FFS.
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Double bollocks. Rodriguez plus a massive deflection.
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Just not good enough is it.
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Oh my fucking god.
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Average player. Try playing v Villa. No worries here you go at a few hundred grand to your valie
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Fuck off the fucking lot of them. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
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Relegation form, how long before we're looking over our shoulders?
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Just not good enough is it.
Indeed not
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We'd played quite well up until the goal and have now fallen apart.
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Boooooooooooo
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
******, the lot of them.
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Massive deflection there off Elphick, also.
Jesus, this is going to get poisonous.
Come on Villa!!!!!
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Just not good enough is it.
Said on repeat since 2010
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Us nil Kalinic and Hourihane 2
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If things don't pick up soon, I think Smith won't last the season. There's just no sign of any improvement whatsoever.
The way things are going he'll be lucky to last the weekend!
And the second goal for the swamp-dwellers goes in. We really are a steaming pile of shite.
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There's a rebuilding job to do.
Not convinced it should be Dean Smith leading it.
We're asking him to do something his sides have never really done before (defend well, and operate at the top end of the table) and he's coming up short.
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Hourihane is going to start copping shit from the crowd, while he's not good enough that really isn't going to help.
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I’m not even that annoyed with villa today, this is normal.
The referee, however, not only is he a fat c**t but he’s very likely to get the shiteist championship ref accolade.
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SO sloppy at the back it's untrue.
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FUUUCK - finally we play better- and they get two goals - and we NOTHING.
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To be fair we were doing ok, A Tammy miss, then a goalkeeper fuck up and a Holigram tackle and there you have it.
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The Smith out shouts in the last week or so were were embarrassing. However, at some point, they will start to become less so.
Someone on here said something about aggression? We have none, that is our problem.
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Resounding boos all around the ground, good, they all deserve it.
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SO sloppy at the back it's untrue.
Not just at the back. But any time any team attacks us the midfield in front of them offer nothing at all. Whelan shit and slow. Hourihane a powder puff. It’s aboslutely fucking pathetic.
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That miss by Tammy looks fucking massive now.
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We've been okay in patches, but no more. They've been better than us.
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Hourihane is going to start copping shit from the crowd, while he's not good enough that really isn't going to help.
Not like he doesn't deserve it - Shouldn't be on the pitch. Hopefully, 2 down forces Smith's hand and Hourihane makes way for Kodjia and they go old school 4-4-2
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That miss by Tammy looks fucking massive now.
Even if he had scored, I would have no faith at all that the two Albion goals wouldn’t have still happened.
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Absolutely not good enough.
Embarrassing, in fact.
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he had to sort the defence in Jan and he hasn't. we've conceded a horrific amount of goals this season
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Sounds like the fans are turning on HoilgrM about time.
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Hopefully, 2 down forces Smith's hand and Hourihane makes way for Kodjia and they go old school 4-4-2
Somewhere, Monty is shaking his fist.
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Just got a message from a friend in Brazil (he is a semi pro footballer and manager) - translates to "What is wrong with the midfield? - like non-existing " - from a first game watching - well observed.
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They've had 10 shots already. Add to that the 24 that Brentford had on Wednesday, and any suggestion that the defence has been sorted is absolutely laughable. Kalinic must have let more goals in in his first 12 games than any other Villa keeper in history. Fucking awful player.
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Fuck it, I'm off to Facebook to post annoying gifs on Bad English's page.
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That miss by Tammy looks fucking massive now.
Even if he had scored, I would have no faith at all that the two Albion goals wouldn’t have still happened.
Well neither of the goals they did score would have happened. It's impressive to turn us going 1 up as we should have into nothing positive.
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No tactical change, no change in the outcome, it's hardly a surprise is it?
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he had to sort the defence in Jan and he hasn't. we've conceded a horrific amount of goals this season
Defence - not sorted
Midfield - not sorted.
Unforgivable, if the ****** gets the sack before the end of the season, that'll be why.
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Ref has been a disgrace.
Albion are dirty bastards.
Great header for their goal.
The less said about the 2nd the better. Hourihane caught out. Lucky deflection.
Other than that, not much between the teams.
Tammy missing a sitter hasn't helped.
Not sure what Smith can do to change it around.
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I'm totally sick of spineless chancers who don't do the basics..
Work hard,close down,compete,graft, control the bag of air,keep switched on,pass it with belief and have total collective spirit...
I reckon teams at every level apply those attributes...we have nearly none collectively and individually..
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Yep, Kalinic is wholly unconvincing.
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Can we go back to saying everything and everyone is shit now please?
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Can we go back to saying everything and everyone is shit now please?
Yes.
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Only we can field 5 useless goalies in one season.
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Thought we were shading it until that goal out of nowhere. Only really one notable chance each.
Typical fare though. Too slow off the ball, Elmo garbage, Hourihane....fuck off you useless ******. Whelan a fucking geriatric so deep and slow.
Our midfield is fucking painful. The response, to have 3 out of 5 devoid of legs and running on or off the ball is a joke.
Fucking give it up Smith and recognise that 3 don't shield fuck all anyway! 4 4 fucking 2.
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Yep, Kalinic is wholly unconvincing.
Fuck off - the "keeper is at fault" - none of the goals- it is the shit infront of him.
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In fairness you could put De Gea behind this midfield and defence and we'd still concede a shedload.
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That miss by Tammy looks fucking massive now.
Even if he had scored, I would have no faith at all that the two Albion goals wouldn’t have still happened.
Well neither of the goals they did score would have happened. It's impressive to turn us going 1 up as we should have into nothing positive.
Those goals specifically might not have been scored but are you suggesting we wouldn’t have been capable of capitulating? Of conceding once, even twice if they turned it up a notch against us?
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It is quite unbelievable that we cannot find a decent keeper. I mean how hard is it , honestly. Same with left back. Ffs.
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We look rudderless and hoping for something to come off, rather than doing the basics and sticking to a plan as the stripeys have done.
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Only we can field 5 useless goalies in one season.
Should have saved the money and stuck with Jed Steer. He was doing ok.
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There was a situation earlier where the ball was passed to hologram 10 yards from the box and he was under no pressure, he turned andplayed a poor pass back to Whelan who was then under pressure and lost the b-ball, this caused a sustained period of Albion pressure.
This is happening every week.
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That miss by Tammy looks fucking massive now.
Even if he had scored, I would have no faith at all that the two Albion goals wouldn’t have still happened.
Well neither of the goals they did score would have happened. It's impressive to turn us going 1 up as we should have into nothing positive.
Those goals specifically might not have been scored but are you suggesting we wouldn’t have been capable of capitulating? Of conceding once, even twice if they turned it up a notch against us?
I'm certainly not suggesting things wouldn't have been different if we'd gone 1 up. Which is fucking obvious.
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What have I missed here? What did Kalinic do wrong for either of those goals. Neither was his fault
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Another fine display then. Fucking garbage again Dean.
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Somehow we always have the worst keepers, the worst everything.
Amavi shit
Veretout Shit
Gollini to Kalinic shit
Ghana shit
Yet when they play elsewhere they are good.... But let us get scapegoats.
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Yep, Kalinic is wholly unconvincing.
That's admirably generous of you hilts. I'd have said he's utterly shite. He certainly ain't alone, mind...
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They are a better side than we are.
The problem is so is everyone else, pretty much.
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Could the owners offer Mourinho a few million just to sort this out for 13 games or whatever it is left ? Got to be worth a gamble ... even Southgate if he's not busy roaming the hills with Bear Grylls ?
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There is something wrong with Kalinic, he looked dazed.
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We look rudderless and hoping for something to come off, rather than doing the basics and sticking to a plan as the stripeys have done.
Too many individuals making mistakes and nowhere near enough leadership throughout the side. No-one out there dishing out bollockings when they are deserved. No-one out there dishing out the orders to organise the side either. Smith needs time to make so many changes but I am very fast running out of patience.
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Afraid the goalkeeper is poor, can’t kick and concedes easily.
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There is something wrong with Kalinic, he looked dazed.
He did get a knock to the head earlier. But he's been pretty ropey from day one.
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There is something wrong with Kalinic, he looked dazed.
Perhaps reality has hit him at last. 'Fucking hell, I should have stayed where I was".
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It would help if we had 11 on the pitch. Hourihane doesn’t count.
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Or Zidane for a few months to familiarise himself with the country ?
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There is something wrong with Kalinic, he looked dazed.
He did get a knock to the head at his Christening .
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We look rudderless and hoping for something to come off, rather than doing the basics and sticking to a plan as the stripeys have done.
Too many individuals making mistakes and nowhere near enough leadership throughout the side. No-one out there dishing out bollockings when they are deserved. No-one out there dishing out the orders to organise the side either. Smith needs time to make so many changes but I am very fast running out of patience.
Mings seemed the only one dishing any bollockings out. A bloke that's been here a couple of weeks and isn't even our player being the only one with any fire is pretty damning.
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Steer on for Kalinic. Presume our Croat friend is injured.
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Could the owners offer Mourinho a few million just to sort this out for 13 games or whatever it is left ? Got to be worth a gamble ... even Southgate if he's not busy roaming the hills with Bear Grylls ?
Great idea regarding Southgate. He'd be mad not to jettison his impressive In-ger-lund career to take on a total basket-case.
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Somehow we always have the worst keepers, the worst everything.
Amavi shit
Veretout Shit
Gollini to Kalinic shit
Ghana shit
Yet when they play elsewhere they are good.... But let us get scapegoats.
Did you miss Kalinic letting it squirm through his hands and almost chucking it into his own net? He's shit.
In his 8 games for us, he's conceded 15 goals. He's as much at fault for the shit show in defence as everybody else.
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Steer on for Kalinic. Presume our Croat friend is injured.
Or just hopelessly inept?
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Aston Villa have conceded 32 goals at home. More than any other club in English football.
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I don't think Kalinic was at fault for either goal. The first was Green not being close enough to the crosser and Mings not being tight enough either. The second was all Hourihane plus an unlucky deflection. It doesn't help when Tammy is not burying his chances.
We played ok for the first 30 mins, then looked like we were tiring and Albion took advantage. We finished the half very badly.
Special mention for another shit referee.
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Fuck it, I'm off to Facebook to post annoying gifs on Bad English's page.
Great idea, see you over there.
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I'd have been happy with Steer for Hourihane to be honest.
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I think he is at fault for the first,
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Steer has come on, not for Hourihane though....
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Apparently, as things now stand we have conceded more home goals this season than any other team in the four English divisions.
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Come on Jed make that spot ur own
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Fear not, we don't really get going until the 82nd minute.
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We look rudderless and hoping for something to come off, rather than doing the basics and sticking to a plan as the stripeys have done.
Too many individuals making mistakes and nowhere near enough leadership throughout the side. No-one out there dishing out bollockings when they are deserved. No-one out there dishing out the orders to organise the side either. Smith needs time to make so many changes but I am very fast running out of patience.
Mings seemed the only one dishing any bollockings out. A bloke that's been here a couple of weeks and isn't even our player being the only one with any fire is pretty damning.
The trouble is there's a few that know they are binned at the end of the season and don't give a sh*t.
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The way we concede reminds me of 86-87.
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Could the owners offer Mourinho a few million just to sort this out for 13 games or whatever it is left ? Got to be worth a gamble ... even Southgate if he's not busy roaming the hills with Bear Grylls ?
Great idea regarding Southgate. He'd be mad not to jettison his impressive In-ger-lund career to take on a total basket-case.
Just a side hussle to his day job. Couldnt be any worse than whats happening now could it ?
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We look rudderless and hoping for something to come off, rather than doing the basics and sticking to a plan as the stripeys have done.
Too many individuals making mistakes and nowhere near enough leadership throughout the side. No-one out there dishing out bollockings when they are deserved. No-one out there dishing out the orders to organise the side either. Smith needs time to make so many changes but I am very fast running out of patience.
Mings seemed the only one dishing any bollockings out. A bloke that's been here a couple of weeks and isn't even our player being the only one with any fire is pretty damning.
The trouble is there's a few that know they are binned at the end of the season and don't give a sh*t.
Collectively, fuck them off into another field at BMH and play the kids instead. We are not going to get relegated and villa fans will always be supportive of playing younger players. Give Ramsey his bow. Cannot possibly do any worse. I can't see when the next win is coming from at the moment.
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At least we wont have anymore play off heartbreak at the end of the season. Acceptance is dawning.
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We look rudderless and hoping for something to come off, rather than doing the basics and sticking to a plan as the stripeys have done.
Too many individuals making mistakes and nowhere near enough leadership throughout the side. No-one out there dishing out bollockings when they are deserved. No-one out there dishing out the orders to organise the side either. Smith needs time to make so many changes but I am very fast running out of patience.
Mings seemed the only one dishing any bollockings out. A bloke that's been here a couple of weeks and isn't even our player being the only one with any fire is pretty damning.
The trouble is there's a few that know they are binned at the end of the season and don't give a sh*t.
That’s how I see it too.
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Heres our 10 minutes of pressure for the second half.
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It must be linked to it how else do you explain it?
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We look rudderless and hoping for something to come off, rather than doing the basics and sticking to a plan as the stripeys have done.
Too many individuals making mistakes and nowhere near enough leadership throughout the side. No-one out there dishing out bollockings when they are deserved. No-one out there dishing out the orders to organise the side either. Smith needs time to make so many changes but I am very fast running out of patience.
Mings seemed the only one dishing any bollockings out. A bloke that's been here a couple of weeks and isn't even our player being the only one with any fire is pretty damning.
The trouble is there's a few that know they are binned at the end of the season and don't give a sh*t.
Collectively, fuck them off into another field at BMH and play the kids instead. We are not going to get relegated and villa fans will always be supportive of playing younger players. Give Ramsey his bow. Cannot possibly do any worse. I can't see when the next win is coming from at the moment.
My fear is we wont be able to offload these donkeys. We have given them deals too fat and juicy that any other clubs would not dream of paying.
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McGinn booked. 2 game suspension just to improve our midfield options.
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Steer deserves his chance to be nr 1 for the rest of the season
Kalinic is just big - he is not a keeper - he is look Valuev - he wasn't a boxer he was just big. Whoever is our keeper scout should be shot
Hologram has been so bad for weeks. For Smith to keep picking him is very concerning as he is accepting his total inability to get around the pitch, tackle or generally do anything.
Performances have simply got worse and worse- Smith needs to find a way to stop conceding goals - he is meant to be a coach and not a manager.
If this continues he wont get his players next season as he wont have a job. He needs to find a system to be more organised hard to beat.
We are a true shambles of a football club at the moment.
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Yellow card for McGinn banned for next 2 games Stoke and Derby
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The referee's a wanker.
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McGinn booked. 2 game suspension just to improve our midfield options.
I’m glad he needs a rest. At least Hologram is safe as a result though.
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If that is the case then it shows what a massive bunch of wankers we've filled our squad with if they have zero professional pride or interest in playing for a contract elsewhere.
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Somehow we always have the worst keepers, the worst everything.
Amavi shit
Veretout Shit
Gollini to Kalinic shit
Ghana shit
Yet when they play elsewhere they are good.... But let us get scapegoats.
Did you miss Kalinic letting it squirm through his hands and almost chucking it into his own net? He's shit.
In his 8 games for us, he's conceded 15 goals. He's as much at fault for the shit show in defence as everybody else.
All shit - i get it - would it be better if they weren't from outside UK - as I am struggling finding English keepers performing in the 44+18+20+20 leagues (top including Championship)
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The way we concede reminds me of 86-87.
Shudders
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I was about to start following Solihull Moors but they can do one now they’re 2-0 down at home to Barnet.
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The way we concede reminds me of 86-87.
Shudders
Good news... we were promoted the following season.
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Could the owners offer Mourinho a few million just to sort this out for 13 games or whatever it is left ? Got to be worth a gamble ... even Southgate if he's not busy roaming the hills with Bear Grylls ?
Great idea regarding Southgate. He'd be mad not to jettison his impressive In-ger-lund career to take on a total basket-case.
Just a side hussle to his day job. Couldnt be any worse than whats happening now could it ?
To be fair, we'd shirley be no worse if we gave the job to the bleedin' kit man.
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McGinn needs to be a little careful here. He's getting frustrated, probably because he's playing with such incompetent bellends.
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Can't wait for the in house after match interview.
So Dean, what's the capital of Guatemala?
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The referee's a wanker.
Now - this is where we start to agree!
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Can't wait for the in house after match interview.
So Dean, what's the capital of Guatemala?
No yes it's Hourihane, Hourihane is always my answer to everything.
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I thought our transitioning overloads while setting traps in midfield were very good.
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Craig Dawson looks like Baresi on the ball in comparison to Elphick.
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Can't wait for the in house after match interview.
So Dean, what's the capital of Guatemala?
No it will just be another question of how amazing Villa Park is when it’s full, how great the fans are and whether or not he’ll be having chips for dinner or a pie.
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Can't wait for the in house after match interview.
So Dean, what's the capital of Guatemala?
The answer
‘The referees in this division have been pathetic it’s like they’re from Guatemala or something.’
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After today and the fixtures coming we could end up way down the table, can't carry on like this and I can't see Dean being in a job come end of March.
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Can't wait for the in house after match interview.
So Dean, what's the capital of Guatemala?
The answer
‘The referees in this division have been pathetic it’s like they’re from Guatemala or something.’
And we should have had a penalty with Tammy dived.
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Hourihane is toilet. Not a wildly original observation, I know.
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After today and the fixtures coming we could end up way down the table, can't carry on like this and I can't see Dean being in a job come end of March.
Lose to Birmingham and the tide turns well and truly.
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That cross was fucking awful, how can so many professional footballers be so shit at so many basics of the game.
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Elmohamady's cross. Haha.
An abhorrent player.
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Elmohamady's cross. Haha.
An abhorrent player.
That was pathetic. Didn't even look up once, just hit and hope. Useless.
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The crosses we put in are aimless. Just sending it in without a look and hoping.
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I always used to hate reading about “Martin O’Neill’s” Aston Villa... but maybe we do need someone who has a big reputation outside of the club. Someone who won’t be daunted by the challenge or suddenly change their philosophy because of the pressure not to lose ........on the other hand, and from a psychological view, maybe we need to plunge to such depths and become so small or insignificant (like Leeds / man city) before we can then be truly successful again .. I just don’t know... but we can’t just blame the players... god knows we’ve castigates so many of our own who went on to have decent careers elsewhere... maybe not superstars, but putting in performances better than they did when at B6.
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Bejebus, Hourihane looked liked he’d managed villa when he was subbed.
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Hologram off for Ramsey. To wild applause.
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Ramsey on, come on kid, show 'em how it's done.
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I gave up watching on my hooky stream - as the quality was nearly as bad as our bunch of tossers. I hope our supporters gave 'em some proper grief as the pissed off at HT.
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Come on Jacob
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Fuck off Hourihane. THAT'S what we think about you.
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I don't particularly like Hourihane, but felt a bit guilty for the abuse I've been dishing out to him from the comfort of my own living room.
He looked like he was going to cry when he was being subbed there, and the ironic cheers were echoing around the ground.
Fucking hell Villa, you don't make it easy for yourselves do you.
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Ramsey's shit
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Can't wait for the in house after match interview.
So Dean, what's the capital of Guatemala?
The answer
‘The referees in this division have been pathetic it’s like they’re from Guatemala or something.’
*Applauds vigorously*
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Young Jacob's crackers for wanting to be a part of this.
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Ramsey's shit
Paedo!
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Ramsey's shit
Paedo!
Haha. That's the first time I've laughed this evening.
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According the BBC, we've had one shot on target. For those watching the stream, is that accurate?
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Mods!!! Legion etc - block me from this fucking site for a while (time out)
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Ramsey's shit
You mean Ramsey Street? Where Scott and Charlene Met?
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Absolutely shocking display. Had high hopes for Smith, but he's on borrowed time. The team are abject.
Even McGinn looks like he's finally had enough of it.
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Just leave. It's not an airport so you don't need to announce your departure.
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According the BBC, we've had one shot on target. For those watching the stream, is that accurate?
Probably. Tammy in the first half. Can't recall anything else.
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Paul scholes is pissing it at Oldham maybe we could persuade him to take a step down?
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Bet365 agrees though we've had twice as many 'dangerous attacks' as they have.
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As much as I was stunned at how great we looked for a few weeks we have regressed at a much more alarming rate since losing Jack and AT. Having those two really did mask what a complete disaster we are as a club
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I don't particularly like Hourihane, but felt a bit guilty for the abuse I've been dishing out to him from the comfort of my own living room.
He looked like he was going to cry when he was being subbed there, and the ironic cheers were echoing around the ground.
Fucking hell Villa, you don't make it easy for yourselves do you.
He was bloody decent at Barnsley, but has now descended to the level that far-too-many of our squad occupy. I honestly don't think most of 'em can handle the pressure that goes with playing at an ailing big football club.
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For the first in our history we'll be spending a 4th consecutive season in division 2.
#historymakers
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I think we have to give Dean a pre-season before judging him.
It’s frustrating because we know how this team was playing at the start of December. We’ll be mid to lose half championship this season sadly, but we need to rebuild. Again. I just don’t get it - how we can go from shit hot to just shit in the course of a couple of games.
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Mings looks utterly fucking disgusted with the rabble in front of him.
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Kodjia for Green
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Kids, loans, journeymen and McGinn. That's all we've got.
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For the first in our history we'll be spending a 4th consecutive season in division 2.
#historymakers
That's horrendous and sad.
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Are we the new Leeds ?
A megaclub destined to be lost in the nether regions for decades.
But why ? At least at Leeds there was a clearly insane owner. Why us ?
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For the first in our history we'll be spending a 4th consecutive season in division 2.
#historymakers
That's horrendous and sad.
We've spent 4 years outside the top flight once before, but it included a trip to division 3.
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We were 3-0 down this time in the last home game so there's been some improvement
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I think we had a shot then.
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Are we the new Leeds ?
A megaclub destined to be lost in the nether regions for decades.
But why ? At least at Leeds there was a clearly insane owner. Why us ?
We have had two
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Kids, loans, journeymen and McGinn. That's all we've got.
And Micah Fucking Richards.
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Are we the new Leeds ?
A megaclub destined to be lost in the nether regions for decades.
But why ? At least at Leeds there was a clearly insane owner. Why us ?
We have also had three managers since we've been down here. We are in absolutely no position at all to throw stones in their direction.
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Dreadful free kick.
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Are we the new Leeds ?
A megaclub destined to be lost in the nether regions for decades.
But why ? At least at Leeds there was a clearly insane owner. Why us ?
An owner that talked about being with shummamites is borderline insane followed by an owner who expected us to be playing Barcelona in three years time from now and who actually had no money are good starters.
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Get out of the way Whelan you fucking useless twat
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20 minutes and not a fucking clue
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Kids, loans, journeymen and McGinn.
My favourite album.
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Are we the new Leeds ?
A megaclub destined to be lost in the nether regions for decades.
But why ? At least at Leeds there was a clearly insane owner. Why us ?
They went through a host of shite owners before landing on Massimo or whatever he was called.
Bad ownership is bad ownership and we've had poor ownership to varying degrees since Big Ron and SBL.
The brief respite of Lerner's early years was juts sacks of cash papering over the cracks.
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For the first in our history we'll be spending a 4th consecutive season in division 2.
#historymakers
That's horrendous and sad.
We've spent 4 years outside the top flight once before, but it included a trip to division 3.
At least we won't be descending into Div 3 now.
#clutchingatstraws
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Kids, loans, journeymen and McGinn.
Love a bit of Cher, me.
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At least we won't be descending into Div 3 now.
#clutchingatstraws
#doyouwanttobetagainstus
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Have we laid a glove on them yet?
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For the first in our history we'll be spending a 4th consecutive season in division 2.
#historymakers
That's horrendous and sad.
We've spent 4 years outside the top flight once before, but it included a trip to division 3.
At least we won't be descending into Div 3 now.
#clutchingatstraws
They'll probably bring it back, just for Villa.
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Albion defenders just standing there until we give the ball away.
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Kids, loans, journeymen and McGinn.
Love a bit of Cher, me.
If I could turn back time.
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For the first in our history we'll be spending a 4th consecutive season in division 2.
#historymakers
That's horrendous and sad.
We've spent 4 years outside the top flight once before, but it included a trip to division 3.
At least we won't be descending into Div 3 now.
#clutchingatstraws
Can we at least wait until Season's end before we get into Marillion puns?
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Are we the new Leeds ?
A megaclub destined to be lost in the nether regions for decades.
But why ? At least at Leeds there was a clearly insane owner. Why us ?
An owner that talked about being with shummamites is borderline insane followed by an owner who expected us to be playing Barcelona in three years time from now and who actually had no money are good starters.
Trust you to go and spoil the upbeat atmosphere on here. :)
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Can we at least wait until Season's end before we get into Marillion puns?
Brucey, is it too late to say I'm sorry?
And Brucey could we get it together again?
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McGinn with a foot like a traction engine.
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Can we at least wait until Season's end before we get into Marillion puns?
Brucey, is it too late to say I'm sorry?
And Brucey could we get it together again?
Tune!
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Simple Post match question to Deano, “what’s gone wrong?”
How would he answer? How would you answer?
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We really do wheels-coming-off collapse like no other club.
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With all this defensive incompetence, I do wonder about the wisdom of having Terry here on coaching work experience.
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Another miss from Tammy.
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Simple Post match question to Deano, “what’s gone wrong?”
How would he answer? How would you answer?
Something about overlaps and transitions I expect, a no yes, and several shrugs of his shoulders.
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Simple Post match question to Deano, “what’s gone wrong?”
How would he answer? How would you answer?
If he was honest he would say he has been unable to workout howto get a performance without Jack, which is a huge failure
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Lovely ball from Hause.
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Simple Post match question to Deano, “what’s gone wrong?”
How would he answer? How would you answer?
Something about overlaps and transitions I expect, a no yes, and several shrugs of his shoulders.
Him and Henry were appointed at the same time weren’t they? So in that respect he’s lucky he’s still here.
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Dear Steve
You know we used to take the piss out of your rugged looks, your pulsating intelectual tactics, your canny late substitutions, being such a mover and shaker in the transfer market and those wonderful after match lectures on the evolution of the game.
Well!!!!
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In fairness it wasn't an easy chance with 2 defenders on him, cracking ball in though.
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I’d come out and say it’s all Terry’s fault.
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For the first in our history we'll be spending a 4th consecutive season in division 2.
#historymakers
That's horrendous and sad.
We've spent 4 years outside the top flight once before, but it included a trip to division 3.
At least we won't be descending into Div 3 now.
#clutchingatstraws
Can we at least wait until Season's end before we get into Marillion puns?
Wot no puns? Sounds rather fishy...
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Such unflattering pics of the two managers on the BBC page - gurning and constipating respsectively:
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/5C0E/production/_105666532_dsdm.jpg)
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Barry getting a better reception than Hourihane.
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I'd just stand there and say "ever get the feeling you've been cheated".
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How did Andre Green do today?
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Such unflattering pics of the two managers on the BBC page - gurning and constipating respsectively:
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/5C0E/production/_105666532_dsdm.jpg)
Adrian!!!!!
Looks like Moore is having an emotional poo.
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Barry getting a better reception than Hourihane.
It must hurt Barry seeing Villa like this.
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Oh for the halcyon days of being “there or thereabouts”!!
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over 39,000. Local derby or not, they are lucky to have us.
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I don’t really think anyone has stood out positively or negatively really.
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Barry getting a better reception than Hourihane.
I would expect so, we're talking about a Villa legend.
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Has anything actually happened this half? Difficult to tell from this thread
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Albion won’t gave an easier game all season
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over 39,000. Local derby or not, they are lucky to have us.
Very lucky, mate.
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Two wins in 14 games now. I think if we don't win any of the next two, then lose against SHA, that could well be time up for Smith.
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Has anything actually happened this half? Difficult to tell from this thread
Lots of huff and puff but no penetration. Much like a Carry On film.
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Has anything actually happened this half? Difficult to tell from this thread
No shots from Albion. According to BbC stats
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I think we have to play Kodjia up with Tammy.
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Should have shot Ramsey. Good play though.
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Hause has actually been a decent attacking threat this half.
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Urgh. Imagine having to sit near those West Brom fans. Some utter degenerates in there.
The game at St Andrews next month could be one to forget. Though we could have a new manager in charge by then.
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Atrocious. Absolutely terrible.