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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 26, 2019, 02:00:48 PM
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Awesome the return of Whelan
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Oh and doing Villa interviews is a curse. First Bree and now Green vanished
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What’s that definition of madness again?
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I see Whelan must have had another great week in training. Just bloody win please Villa.
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I am abit ugh
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Green ????
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I'm fine with Whelan if it gives license for the full backs to push further forward. Our wide players can be much more effective when a player is offering the overlap.
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Green injured?
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I'm fine with Whelan if it gives license for the full backs to push further forward. Our wide players can be much more effective when a player is offering the overlap.
....even if the overlapping player is Neil bloody Taylor again
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Mrs SE this morning: I don't know why you go all the way to Birmingham to see the home games. They always lose and you come back miserable.
Me: I need to see Glen Whelan.
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Meh.
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Good grief.
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Meh.
Indeed.
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I'm fine with Whelan if it gives license for the full backs to push further forward. Our wide players can be much more effective when a player is offering the overlap.
....even if the overlapping player is Neil bloody Taylor again
Not ideal no. But it means someone has to track him as well, dragging one of their players out of position, then yes it's effective.
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What a garbage selection that really is. Whelan 🤦🏻♂️ Lack of pace yet again in midfield is shocking.
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I'm fine with Whelan if it gives license for the full backs to push further forward. Our wide players can be much more effective when a player is offering the overlap.
....even if the overlapping player is Neil bloody Taylor again
Not ideal no. But it means someone has to track him as well, dragging one of their players out of position, then yes it's effective.
So long as he’s just a decoy and we don’t actually give him the ball !
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I think Meh is the default setting now, maybe until the start of next season anyway
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Mrs SE this morning: I don't know why you go all the way to Birmingham to see the home games. They always lose and you come back miserable.
Me: I need to see Glen Whelan.
I'm sure a good therapist could help you with that.
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You're all going to hate me for this, but after seeing that starting 11 I've stuck a score on the farmers at 13/2.
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You're all going to hate me for this, but after seeing that starting 11 I've stuck a score on the farmers at 13/2.
Hope you’ve done your money
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Glenn Whelan’s inclusion sucks the confidence right out of me
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He’s not learning is he
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Just how bad must Whelan be to be left out by Smith? He was worse than ever at Wigan and should never have been selected again. Smith has really started to worry me with his decisions. I see Green is missing,no doubt we will read later he was injured in training
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He’s not learning is he
Only so many times you can defend the same nonsense
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On paper there are a many players there that shouldn't be. Hutton, Taylor, Chester, Whelan, Hourihane.
But that's the state of things laid bare for all to see.
No idea why O'Hare, Bree, Green or Hause can't feature though
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That creeping, terrible feeling of dread has just inched closer. It's still a long way off, but It's there alright.
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On my train now.
I feel like I've boarded a tumbril...
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Looks like McGinn is going to be busy..... again! I said when Lambert took over the Ipswich job - We'll lose this, and I stand by my claim.
Whelan (& Hourihane) should be nowhere near that teamsheet on recent showings - 30K+ fans can't all be wrong surely?!
And Green had better be injured or Deano is going to lose a lot of support with that lineup. :(
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Come on villa , should be plenty good enough
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Hang on hang on.... after last weeks initial criticisms it was pretty unanimous on here to give DS the time and backing to rebuild. Ur all going to have to be far more patient !😩😜
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How the fuck is Green injured already...
I see Mutton is starting. Let's hope he's plays better than he did for Lambert's last game away at Hull. How on earth is this guy still here 4 years later?
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Didn't Green get injured in the practice match during the week ?
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Yes.
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Please win.
💜💙
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Yeah Colin mentioned against Swindon mid-week.
Jedi, BB and Whelan- you wouldn't get a good player if you spliced all 3 together.
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Crap team. Dean you test my patience to the limit.
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crap team, but what do you do? We have a squad full of arse. i'd play Whelan first half and jedinak 2nd. hopefully they can both last 45 minutes
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Nearly time to take my glasses off so I can't see things clearly.
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What’s that definition of madness again?
Trying the same thing and expecting different results ?
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Adomah Whelan Taylor Hourihane Will it ever end!! Just win you ******.
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Go again or excellent?
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That team looks weaker than when the transfer window opened.
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Crap team. Dean you test my patience to the limit.
Who is not included that should be ?
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Not a team to strike the fear of god into anyone.
Except us.
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If you got vlc pm me
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Crap team. Dean you test my patience to the limit.
Who is not included that should be ?
Precisely. It’s all well and good criticizing team selection but who else would you put in right now - is Messi in the bench?!?!
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Paul will be in his usual dugout.
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O'Hare, Davis and Kodjia for starters.
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Start them. Be proactive. One thing I never expected from Dean Smith was caution.
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Google Sports has the formation as 4-1-4-1 against their 4-3-3.
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I'm fine with Whelan if it gives license for the full backs to push further forward. Our wide players can be much more effective when a player is offering the overlap.
....even if the overlapping player is Neil bloody Taylor again
Not ideal no. But it means someone has to track him as well, dragging one of their players out of position, then yes it's effective.
So long as he’s just a decoy and we don’t actually give him the ball !
Which happened in the 1st minute and his cross was awful 🤣
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Crap lineup. Uninspiring. Won't be watching. Good luck Villa
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If anyone really wants to watch this PM me.
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Is the match not on AVTV?
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O'Hare for No legs Whelan, Kodjia and Davis for Adomah and El Ghasi and Charlie from the chip shop for Neil Taylor.
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What’s that definition of madness again?
Trying the same thing and expecting different results ?
The very same.
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Crap lineup. Uninspiring. Won't be watching. Good luck Villa
Cheers
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no visuals on ATV only sound on audio
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no visuals on ATV only sound on audio
Great service as usual.
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1-0.
Tammy time.
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good ball that
great
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get in already! yes 1 nil, what a great team selection :-)
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how manys that now ????
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18
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now go and get 5
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Got him to get hat trick today.....
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Imagine how bleak things would be if he'd gone back to Chelsea. At least there's still a bit of hope with 30 goal striker on our books until May.
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Brilliant. Wicked free kick from the left by Hourihane, lays it on a plate for Tammy who volleys it in from about three yards out.
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We really should hammer these
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Any streams?
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oh whelan ffs
Ill be glad when hes gone and some one better is in
Tammy will get 30 at this rate
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Get the fuck in Villa!
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Well the stream I was watching lasted until just after the goal before AVTV blocked them.
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Chester and Taylor playing themselves into trouble.
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Pressing much higher so far.
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Well the stream I was watching lasted until just after the goal before AVTV blocked them.
Same here.
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Well the stream I was watching lasted until just after the goal before AVTV blocked them.
Same here.
At least he's now offering porn channels ;D
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Crap lineup. Uninspiring. Won't be watching. Good luck Villa
Cheers
You're extremely welcome.
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What station is this on? We can't find it on BBC WM FM or DAB. Is it even on?
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Well the stream I was watching lasted until just after the goal before AVTV blocked them.
Same here.
Aston Villa All things claret and blue is a good facebook group on matchdays ;)
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Just back and put on the game. Glad we are winning but in the past 5 min we haven’t touched the ball vs the mighty Ipswich
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What sort of reception did Lambert get when he walked out?
Pretty rare we actually get old managers returning to VP, think MON was last one in 2012 and that was pretty mixed.
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What sort of reception did Lambert get when he walked out?
Pretty rare we actually get old managers returning to VP, think MON was last one in 2012 and that was pretty mixed.
And excellent one. It really was
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Can someone explain what the "TSM2's" refers to??
Shows I'm a bit old for things like lol etc!!!
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The Scottish manager
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It’s on dab radio listening now - sounds like they’re sitting in a library
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TSM or TSM1 = The Scottish Manager = Alex McLeish
TSM2 = Paul Lambert
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TSM or TSM1 = The Scottish Manager = Alex McLeish
TSM2 = Paul Lambert
Cheers!
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thought that was 2 then
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That offside against Adomah looked a bit tight to me.
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;Well the stream I was watching lasted until just after the goal before AVTV blocked them.
Same here.
Aston Villa All things claret and blue is a good facebook group on matchdays ;)
can't find it on facebook must have gone already
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Offside. Boo!
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Great counter attack there. Pity McGinn couldn't get more on the shot.
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My stream is Ipswich TV and is 3 or 4 minutes behind. Could be worse as Ipswich is about 30 years behind the rest of the world.
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Tammy Abraham works so hard both in attack and defending. He tracks back, he wins headers. His goals aside his overall attitude and work ethic is absolutely brilliant.
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My stream is Ipswich TV and is 3 or 4 minutes behind. Could be worse as Ipswich is about 30 years behind the rest of the world.
In those four minutes Ipswich were excellent
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Except in tractorology PWS.
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It’s on dab radio listening now - sounds like they’re sitting in a library
Thank you mate.
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"we are not creative at all". Lambert has been there long enough that you should be used to it you bunch of yokels.
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What exactly does Whelan offer in terms of advice when it comes to free kicks?
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No shortage of shots on target today.
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What exactly does Whelan offer in terms of advice when it comes to free kicks?
Do the opposite of whatever he suggests?
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Come on Villa we need more goals, because we’ll inevitably bloody concede.
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Except in tractorology PWS.
I knew someone who used to realy like tractors. Hates them now though.
We call him an Ex tractor fan,,,,,,,,, ahh the old ones are the best.
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Anyone have a stream that's still going please?
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Deere oh Deere
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No shortage of shots on target today.
Some of them need to go in.....
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Playing ok. Probably should have had a few more.
Ipswich are atrocious mind. As is Chester on the ball. Get Hause fit and get him rested from his groin injury.
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More goals please Villa.
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Results going for us so far. We need to batter Ipswich, even if it's only to ruin Lamberts weekend.
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Anyone have a stream that's still going please?
Do yourself a favour... don’t bother watching it.
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Yep, one never feels like enough for us. Neither does 2, come to think of it. Anyway, I think we've got more in us.
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Ipswich nearly signed an unknown Scottish manager in the 80s. Apparently they would have been Massive with Ferguson.
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We started so well and then after 15 or 20 mins the tempo dropped. We are doing ok, but need to up the urgency again and take Ipswich apart.
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If we had three or four Abrahams we'd be promoted already.
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Anyone have a stream that's still going please?
Do yourself a favour... don’t bother watching it.
...I'd love a stream as well if there are any going...?
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not as harrowing as some halves have been
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Close again by Tammy
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Shrews 1-0 Wolves
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Their keeper is utter crap. Plenty of shots on target and players following up = goals.
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How is El Ghazi playing please?
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Their keeper is utter crap. Plenty of shots on target and players following up = goals.
I was just thinking that. He spills everything. When watching the documentary Sunderland Till I die it made you realize how important a good keeper is, because the ones they had were dreadful. It’s no wonder Ipswich are bottom and we all know how much poor keeping has hurt us this season and when we went down.
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How is El Ghazi playing please?
Lots of gas not much fire
As proven right there as he fires the ball into Litchfield Road
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We really should be rattling 3 or 4 against this lot.
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How is El Ghazi playing please?
Lots of gas not much fire
Doesn't seem to have the same effect when he starts as to when he comes on as a sub.
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Ooooh McGinn.
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The second is coming. This lot are muck. We’re playing better.
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How is El Ghazi playing please?
Lots of gas not much fire
Doesn't seem to have the same effect when he starts as to when he comes on as a sub.
A decent opportunity fell to him outside the box and he blazed it high and wide.
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How is El Ghazi playing please?
Lots of gas not much fire
Doesn't seem to have the same effect when he starts as to when he comes on as a sub.
Unfortunately the same could be said for a number of our players.
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Adomah has been shit
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Get Kodjia on
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PENALTY VILLA
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Penalty!!!!!!!
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TAMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 2-0
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Scores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tammy win it.
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Yes
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Goooooooooooool !
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19 goals..... One more please Tammy and I win my first bet of the season
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Come on Villa, lets keep going and get a couple more.
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19 goals..... One more please Tammy and I win my first bet of the season
20 league goals ?
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Playing much better now. Could have been 3 there, McGinn over
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Was it a pen? I wished we scored more normal goals.
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Oooooooh Tammy. Lovely chip. Corner Villa
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19 goals..... One more please Tammy and I win my first bet of the season
20 league goals ?
No, a hat trick. Not sure what odds were though.
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Elmo on for Adomah
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Adomah off for Elmo.
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Well done Tommy
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Any word on where green is ?
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Any word on where green is ?
Got injured in a practice game.
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19 goals..... One more please Tammy and I win my first bet of the season
20 league goals ?
No, a hat trick. Not sure what odds were though.
Fingers crossed Deano. Still gutted I didn't back him as league top scorer when DS took over, he was 22-1.
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Any word on where green is ?
Injured during the week
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Any word on where green is ?
It's in between yellow and blue.
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We're looking alright, passing it around quite well, but it's difficult to judge because Ipswich are abysmal.
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Below red and amber
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Crap cross Elmo. That was a good move too
33653 attendance
Wolves losing 2-0 at Shrewsbury
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Any word on where green is ?
It's in between yellow and blue.
I got a bit, but no tick like....
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Was that a penalty to Ipswich? Tommy saved it on the line.
Ball over the top causing problems again
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Luke Waterfall. I love you. Cascading down on goal to score.
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Was that a penalty to Ipswich? Tommy saved it on the line
Probably the best bit of goalkeeping with seen in weeks thre from Elphick.
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Ipswich incensed. Theyvr been marvellous. Lambert can't ask for any more! Pick yourselves up and go again.
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Luke Waterfall. I love you. Cascading down on goal to score.
Wolves pulled one back
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That was a penalty to them so we’ve given Lambert his post match excuse interview already.
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FUCK
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Sears with an absolute screamer
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Bastards.
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Ipswich two one. Bolllcks.
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Crap cross Elmo. That was a good move too
33653 attendance
Wolves losing 2-0 at Shrewsbury
Oh so not only are they too good for the Europa Cup but they obviously consider the FA cup to be beneath their Smell-of-Roses Gold and black Arses as well.
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2-1.
Sigh.
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Screamer from Sears for them.
Bastard.
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Their first away goal in 7 games. Typical.
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Fucking hell. Neil Taylor is utter utter shit. Stupid corner conceded. You just fucking know what’s coming
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Dont mess this up Villa
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here we go, you've read the script!
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Ipswich score their first away goal in seven games. You could’ve put money on it would be against us.
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Kodjia on for Whelan
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For the sake of fuck!
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Kodjia on for Whelan
442?
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we just cant defend for shit
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Get a fucking third Villa.
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I hate us these days.
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Cracking goal and not really anything we could have done about it.
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Kalinic been booked, time wasting?
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Another clean sheet successfully avoided. And Ipswich hit the post too.
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Anyone up for a last minute James Collins equaliser?
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Ipswich just hit the post with a header.
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Ipswich hit bar. We're going to mess this up aren't we
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Fuck me they've hit the post.
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I wonder what the record number of 2-2 draws for is for one team in one season?
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Anyone up for a last minute James Collins equaliser?
I'd rather not but you wouldn't bet against it.
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Squeaky bum time here.
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Terrible and unnecessary sub from Smith totally killed the momentum
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We are truly our own worst enemies
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Terrible and unnecessary sub from Smith totally killed the momentum
The tide was turning before that. Jedinak now coming on hopefully to slow them down a bit
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FUCK ME ELMO. What the fuck was that?
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Could be worse, we could be Stoke.
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El Ghazi off. Jedi on. Kodjia to left wing
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What the fuck was that pull back from Elmo?
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Jedinak coming on for El Ghazi
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Quick fiver on the draw at 10/1
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Tammmmmmy....fuck. Should have done so much better
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Tammy should probably have scored there.
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Quick fiver on the draw at 10/1
Did well with those odds, I still only have 8/1 to play with on Bet365.
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Stoke losing 2-0. They are going to be just like us. Loads of very high wage players who don’t want to be there and two or three years of cleaning up a huge mess.
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It's amazing that we are getting such good crowds when we have such a poor side. Credit to the Villa fans.
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O'Hare for No legs Whelan, Kodjia and Davis for Adomah and El Ghasi and Charlie from the chip shop for Neil Taylor.
OK, I can understand the call for Ohare although he may not be good enough, but I cant see a front 3 of Abraham, Davis and Kodjia
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My arse is firmly clenched
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Ficking Leeds.
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O’Hare is off to Carlisle on loan.
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Fuckkkkkk Tammy again, great save from the keeper
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Good save fro their keeper, but Tammy really should have buried that.
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Their keeper has kept them in this.
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Ficking Leeds.
Leeds are going up. We need to look after ourselves and hope them and Norwich beat teams around them.
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12 shots on target today, must've been years since we've produced that in a league fixture?
Criminal if we don't win this.
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Ficking Leeds.
Leeds are going up. We need to look after ourselves and hope them and Norwich beat teams around them.
Very true. The best we can hope for is the play offs.
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Elphick brilliant tackle after shit play between Hourihane and Taylor
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Get into the corner Kodjia FFS
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Fuck me Shrewsbury 2-2 Wolves.
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Bastard wolves.
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YESSSSSSS 3 points
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Well, at least we stopped the rot I guess. Onwards and upwards, now for the signings!!
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made hard work of that!
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Just about hung on at home against the worst team in the championships. Yay.
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Just concentrating its 3 points
It could have been worse.
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Above Small Heath at last
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We succeeded in making a bad team look good.