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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 05, 2019, 02:01:40 PM
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Thought Keinan Davis might start.
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Surprised to see McGinn in there to be honest and I fully expected to see Whelan (FFS). I thought either BB or Lasbury might have got a game. Anyway nice to see Callum get a start.
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McGinn the machine.
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Bolasie not even on the bench. Think it's his best position, certainly gives us a lift when he comes on.
Great to see O'Hare make a start. Good luck, Collum.
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Strong team
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If we're starting Hogan I'd rather him upfront in a two tbh.
Five minutes and the ball will be flying off his boot back towards the halfway line I imagine.
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Nice to see OHare start, would have preferred to see Davis start than Hogan, who knows maybe today could kick start his season.
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Seems a pretty strong team and maybe a pointer to how we'll set up minus Abraham. Hogan being selected…….taxi for Kodjia long term?
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Seems a pretty strong team and maybe a pointer to how we'll set up minus Abraham. Hogan being selected…….taxi for Kodjia long term?
Hope not. Kodjia can play centrally or out wide in a 3, Hogan can only play as a centre forward and done a very poor impression of one in last two years.
I imagine with us not imminent in getting a new CF in Kodjia is being rested as you wouldn't want him to pick up a knock and miss the January games.
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Excellent. Looking forward to seeing Callum.
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Seems a pretty strong team and maybe a pointer to how we'll set up minus Abraham. Hogan being selected…….taxi for Kodjia long term?
Hope not. Kodjia can play centrally or out wide in a 3, Hogan can only play as a centre forward and done a very poor impression of one in last two years.
I imagine with us not imminent in getting a new CF in Kodjia is being rested as you wouldn't want him to pick up a knock and miss the January games.
yeah you could be right. I just feel he's not the type of forward Smith would choose to play given the option and given he's 29 now, I wouldn't be surprised if we'll cash in this summer while he's still worth something. We'll see who gets the nod in January I guess
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Have they made many changes?
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I really expected SJM to have a rest. Win please.
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Whelen.. Hutton..
Come on Villa!
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That's a strong Swansea team
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That's a strong Swansea team
Hutton and Taylor in for a torrid time
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Just one change for them, 6 for us.
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Whelan?! FFS.
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Have they made many changes?
Swansea not playing a striker today. Celina, Routledge, Nathan Dyer and Matt Grimes all starting.
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Whelan?! FFS.
I just don't get it.
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Glad O'Hare's got a chance in a fairly strong side. It can be hard for kids to stand out when the whole team's changed and if he can have a good game, he might be a back-up option to Grealish.
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Why isn't Abraham on the bench at least?
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Why isn't Abraham on the bench at least?
Because he's busy arranging a move to his 90th different team in the last couple of years.
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Why isn't Abraham on the bench at least?
Learning how to speak Dingle.
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Why isn't Abraham on the bench at least?
Part of the loan deal for cup games
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Is this on anywhere or is it just AVTV audio? I’m assuming you can’t watch the FA Cup games on AVTV as I’m abroad and can’t see it.
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Would be nice if Hogan looked like a footballer today.
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
Agree Smith particularly referred to Connor and mcginn both being tiered and still plays the one that puts the most miles in. Can only be tactical guess against they’re 11
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Not surprised re whelan. He was rested last match
V surprised w McGinn starting
Good test for ohare and hogan. Do well and they're genuine contenders to start next week. But will be tough. Nrither ha started this season
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Why isn't Abraham on the bench at least?
Sky sports just reporting a deal is close to being sorted to go to wolves
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0-1.
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Kalinic let in soft one by sounds of it.
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He got a semi-decent punch on the initial corner but when the second ball came in it seemed to bounce off him and fall to the Fulham player.
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The villa park keeper hoodoo continues it looks a terrible mistake
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He got a semi-decent punch on the initial corner but when the second ball came in it seemed to bounce off him and fall to the Fulham player.
Fulham?
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Hogan misses a sitter.
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Hutton's playing cenre back! Jesus god help us all
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He got a semi-decent punch on the initial corner but when the second ball came in it seemed to bounce off him and fall to the Fulham player.
Fulham?
No. Swansea. They all look the same.
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Hogan misses a sitter.
Was a very good save actually.
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Hogan should have scored. I suppose the silver lining is that he's getting into the right positions. Sounds very quiet at Villa Park. Feel like all that early enthusiasm of a new manager and the "swagger" as he put it has all but gone.
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Quick sit rep. Our new keeper is a liability and Hogan who we will shortly have to reply on for goals can’t hit the target.
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ESPN plus
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
Agree Smith particularly referred to Connor and mcginn both being tiered and still plays the one that puts the most miles in. Can only be tactical guess against they’re 11
Another smith moan in the week is the constant reference to playing 3 RB’s in defence and today he chooses to play one at CB !
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Quick sit rep. Our new keeper is a liability and Hogan who we will shortly have to reply on for goals can’t hit the target.
In his defence he did hit the target, but he should have buried it.
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Quick sit rep. Our new keeper is a liability and Hogan who we will shortly have to reply on for goals can’t hit the target.
Smith building a nice keeper liability club by strengthening that dept with yet another
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Just seen score. That didn't take long this week did it.
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Quick sit rep. Our new keeper is a liability and Hogan who we will shortly have to reply on for goals can’t hit the target.
In his defence he did hit the target, but he should have buried it.
Ultimately similar chance to all the ones Tammy has been putting away recently from crosses.
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Quick sit rep. Our new keeper is a liability and Hogan who we will shortly have to reply on for goals can’t hit the target.
Smith building a nice keeper liability club by strengthening that dept with yet another
Can't write him off after 10 minutes.
Let's give it another 5.
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Whelan on corner duty
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Very open game with chances at both ends. I can't see it staying at 0-1.
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Oh dear Kalinic, not a great start to your Villa career.
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Whelan on corner duty
Floaty useless corners. No threat or pace to them.
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Doesn’t feel like there’s much positivity at the moment.
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I thought this was supposed to be a sell out. There's seats everywhere.
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I thought this was supposed to be a sell out. There's seats everywhere.
Free to ST holders I think so they all get counted in the attendance figure.
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I thought this was supposed to be a sell out. There's seats everywhere.
Presumably includes season ticket holders who couldn’t be arsed to go.
Like me, for example.
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I thought this was supposed to be a sell out. There's seats everywhere.
ST holders got their seats for free. I have a ST but I also have man flu so I haven't gone today. I imagine lots of others haven't attended for various reasons.
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I thought this was supposed to be a sell out. There's seats everywhere.
Free to ST holders I think so they all get counted in the attendance figure.
Ah I see. Ta.
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So far so bad.
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This is piss poor.
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Dean needs to get a grip on this, we’ve been shit of late.
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Fuck off you dull ******, back to inspid shit without Grealish. One man team.
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Terrible. Swansea look a much better side. We look sloppy which appears to be the new norm
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
Agree Smith particularly referred to Connor and mcginn both being tiered and still plays the one that puts the most miles in. Can only be tactical guess against they’re 11
Another smith moan in the week is the constant reference to playing 3 RB’s in defence and today he chooses to play one at CB !
Out of interest which other CB would you have played instead? Tuanzebe who is injured, Chester who is injured and needs a rest or Suliman who is ineligible?
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It’s nowhere near good enough at the moment.
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
Agree Smith particularly referred to Connor and mcginn both being tiered and still plays the one that puts the most miles in. Can only be tactical guess against they’re 11
Another smith moan in the week is the constant reference to playing 3 RB’s in defence and today he chooses to play one at CB !
Out of interest which other CB would you have played instead? Tuanzebe who is injured, Chester who is injured and needs a rest or Suliman who is ineligible?
Bree, who's played there the last few games.
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Dreadful so far. He's trying to play a pressing game with Steve Bruce's plodders. It won't be easy to fix this. Without Grealish the reality is this is going to take a while to change what we are. The last few weeks has been a massive kick in the nuts and check on reality for all of us.
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
Agree Smith particularly referred to Connor and mcginn both being tiered and still plays the one that puts the most miles in. Can only be tactical guess against they’re 11
Another smith moan in the week is the constant reference to playing 3 RB’s in defence and today he chooses to play one at CB !
Out of interest which other CB would you have played instead? Tuanzebe who is injured, Chester who is injured and needs a rest or Suliman who is ineligible?
Bree, who's played there the last few games.
He's still a RB playing at CB - which was the point the poster was making.
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
Agree Smith particularly referred to Connor and mcginn both being tiered and still plays the one that puts the most miles in. Can only be tactical guess against they’re 11
Another smith moan in the week is the constant reference to playing 3 RB’s in defence and today he chooses to play one at CB !
Out of interest which other CB would you have played instead? Tuanzebe who is injured, Chester who is injured and needs a rest or Suliman who is ineligible?
Revan. Why include a CB in the squad over the last few weeks and then not play him at all when there's a chance to?
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Very boring.
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We don’t look like scoring.
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Revan. Why include a CB in the squad over the last few weeks and then not play him at all when there's a chance to?
Maybe he doesn't think he's ready? I'm not sure a centre-half who's never ever played a minute is any more use than Hutton or Bree to be honest. If we were playing a team of kids fair enough but he's obviously picking a team to try to win the game. Plus Hogan.
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Don't understand selecting McGinn and Whelan today. Both need resting and we have two obvious experienced options on the bench.
Agree Smith particularly referred to Connor and mcginn both being tiered and still plays the one that puts the most miles in. Can only be tactical guess against they’re 11
Another smith moan in the week is the constant reference to playing 3 RB’s in defence and today he chooses to play one at CB !
Out of interest which other CB would you have played instead? Tuanzebe who is injured, Chester who is injured and needs a rest or Suliman who is ineligible?
Revan. Why include a CB in the squad over the last few weeks and then not play him at all when there's a chance to?
Absolutely, it’s not just me that’s seen that then 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Fuck me, this is terrible.
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Revan. Why include a CB in the squad over the last few weeks and then not play him at all when there's a chance to?
Maybe he doesn't think he's ready? I'm not sure a centre-half who's never ever played a minute is any more use than Hutton or Bree to be honest. If we were playing a team of kids fair enough but he's obviously picking a team to try to win the game. Plus Hogan.
Other teams have no choice but to throw in kids, ready or not. Smith at Brentford would have been in that position I'm sure. I think it's one of our problems across many managers is this over reliance on past it players. I would rather he had given Revan a chance today even if he isn't perfect than give Hutton yet another game and in a position that we all know he's not suited to and frankly not very good in at all.
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Good grief we are dire
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It happens far too often these days that I watch our games and think 'The opposition knock it about better than us.'
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FFS, are Kalinic’s gloves sponsored by Olivio?
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Getting beaten by a team with Wayne Routledge in it, he must be 45 now.
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This has 0-2 written all over it.
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Sounds like O'Hare has lost possession frequently.
Might be a guide to why he's rarely played.
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We are a depressing basket case of a club aren't we? We were all so excited about the Dean Smith revolution. Didn't take long for our shite players to revert to type.
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The Dean Smith revolution has really turned into BruceBall in record time.
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Unfuckingacceptable again.
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Hogan isn't Tammy.
O'Hare showing why he's not ready.
Defence can't stop goals.
Midfield has massive holes once we lose the ball.
Apart from that, looking good.
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The ST holders who stayed away made a good decision. That was a very very dull 45 minutes. In which we were very very poor.
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Sub 3 midfielders, move El Ghazi in the middle for O'Hare, Kodjia out wide, Bjarnasson for Whelan and Lansbury for Mcginn.
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Glen Whelan fuck off.
Just fuck off you old, slow, useless ******.
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Watched the last 20. Poor fare. Only mcginn up to much. Tho some chance that el ghazi and ohare could do something. Tho both have been poor overall
Keeper looks shaky. Hopefully first day nerves
They look more cohesive. But then this is much closer to their first team
All in all, based on this, I don't think we'll see ohare again soon. Nor the 4231 we seem to be playing at times. And it's going to be Kodjia up front against Wigan.
But we can't all say we want to see players rested and then complain when it's disjointed
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Sort it the fuck out.
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So finally seen the goal - not GK fault - striker first on the ball. So please do not jump on him straight off
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That 45 minutes of football was as bad as anything Bruce served up. Bloody rubbish.
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So finally seen the goal - not GK fault - striker first on the ball. So please do not jump on him straight off
No, it was very poor from him.
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Can we have some subs at half time too rather than let the game drift to the 70th minute.
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Glen Whelan fuck off.
Just fuck off you old, slow, useless c***.
Why? Why does he keep fucking playing him? He does fucking nothing at all. I'm sick of managers playing certain useless fucking players over and over again. There was no reason at all to give Whelan a 4th start today in 5 games. None.
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It's not just Grealish being out that has seen us play so poorly, it's that chronic waste of space, who should be melted down for glue rather than retired.
He's the reason we're so deep, as he's sat 5 yards in front of the back four. He's still, despite that, not getting close to ANY of the fucking runners. He's turgid moving the ball on.
Fuck off Glenn Whelan to Steve Bruce's Jurassic Park, so absolute waste of fucking space. Never play for this club again you useless ******.
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But we can't all say we want to see players rested and then complain when it's disjointed
It's more than disjointed though: it's really poor quality football.
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So finally seen the goal - not GK fault - striker first on the ball. So please do not jump on him straight off
No, it was very poor from him.
No it wasn’t - but hey ho - he is shit - the quicker he gets out the better right.
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It's what I've said all along about Whelan. When he plays we play so much deeper. He offers no protection to the back four,. He can't step up and be an attacking threat. He literally has this superpower of sucking the entire team towards our own goal and in doing so sucking the life out of the fans at the same time.
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Sub 3 midfielders, move El Ghazi in the middle for O'Hare, Kodjia out wide, Bjarnasson for Whelan and Lansbury for Mcginn.
Mad the midfield hasn't been refreshed for this game. Pointless Whelan plays this game and McGinn deserves a breather.
DS selections become more odd in recent weeks.
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We're not going to solve our problems till we get a decent defensive centre-midfielder. Defence has been generally shite for years, but hasn't helped that they never get any protection.
- Whelan doesn't have the legs, and constantly clogs it at every available opportunity, thus inviting more pressure.
- Jedinak - Likewise
- Hourihane - NOT a defensive midfielder. Doesn't tackle. In fact, I'd put him in the Hitz category..... Pops up with the odd belter of a shot but offers nothing else.
With the squad and injuries we have, I'd play 4-4-2, with SJM and Thor in the middle, Albert/El Ghazi on the wings, and Jimmy/Kienan + Hogan up front. We're not going to keep clean sheets with our current squad, so just adopt the Keegan approach.
*I do think that once the dust settles and we get new players in/back from injury, I'd give Bree a solid run at RB till end of season to prove himself. I think we have a half decent player there.
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Love to have seen Lansbury play today, I'm convinced there is player there still if he is given a chance.
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I'm convinced there is player there.
Not having a pop at you because I see this expression a lot, but all it means is a player who should be good but isn't.
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I'm convinced there is player there.
Not having a pop at you because I see this expression a lot, but all it means is a player who should be good but isn't.
I know what you mean Hilts, I just remember him running the game for Forest at Villa Park a few years ago. I'd love to see that belatedly in a Villa shirt.
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I'm convinced there is player there.
Not having a pop at you because I see this expression a lot, but all it means is a player who should be good but isn't.
Here’s a depressing game. How many of our current squad including loanees in and out could you justifiably attach that description to?
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Sub 3 midfielders, move El Ghazi in the middle for O'Hare, Kodjia out wide, Bjarnasson for Whelan and Lansbury for Mcginn.
Mad the midfield hasn't been refreshed for this game. Pointless Whelan plays this game and McGinn deserves a breather.
DS selections become more odd in recent weeks.
Bruceesque who’d of thought a villa fan not ‘getting it’ or running out or repetition in interviews !.... defensive on the ball rest time or high pitch press
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I think with the Abraham news we need a bit better performance than this from the team. Come on, sort it out.
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Did they make this Tammy announcement that was meant to happen at half time?
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0-2!
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So easy
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Unacceptable from all concerned
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What we mustn’t do is concede a early goal
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Did they make this Tammy announcement that was meant to happen at half time?
What's this about?
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We're not going to solve our problems till we get a decent defensive centre-midfielder. Defence has been generally shite for years, but hasn't helped that they never get any protection.
- Whelan doesn't have the legs, and constantly clogs it at every available opportunity, thus inviting more pressure.
- Jedinak - Likewise
- Hourihane - NOT a defensive midfielder. Doesn't tackle. In fact, I'd put him in the Hitz category..... Pops up with the odd belter of a shot but offers nothing else.
With the squad and injuries we have, I'd play 4-4-2, with SJM and Thor in the middle, Albert/El Ghazi on the wings, and Jimmy/Kienan + Hogan up front. We're not going to keep clean sheets with our current squad, so just adopt the Keegan approach.
*I do think that once the dust settles and we get new players in/back from injury, I'd give Bree a solid run at RB till end of season to prove himself. I think we have a half decent player there.
Hourihane offers nothing else !?....played most games in 2018 and involved in most goals , scoring 11 plus 6 assists. I’m sorry but there are too many negative emotions without looking at facts on here lately
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Game over I reckon.
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Another FA Cup write off. 2015 aside I can't think of much pleasure in this competition since reaching the semi in 2010. Dire.
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Game over I reckon.
I’m expecting Swansea to score a couple more
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Atrocious. No subs, send them out for more of the same. 2 minutes of the first half,2 minutes of the second half.
WAKE THE FUCK UP ASTON VILLA.
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Disgraceful again. Sort it the fuck out Dean, we’re drifting of late and it’s unacceptable.
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You're not going to win a lot of games with Hutton and Whelen starting. In fact, I'd like to know if we've ever actually won a game when both have started.
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I’m a bit worried. First real taste of adversity and Smith’s decision making is questionable. If we’re gonna piss away a cup game, and I can understand why we would, then why the fuck is McGinn in there?
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Game over I reckon.
And yet everyone was so positive about team selection between 14:01 and 15:00
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Did they make this Tammy announcement that was meant to happen at half time?
What's this about?
I heard that they were making an Announcement at half time. Must have been crap.
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We look second best all over the pitch at the moment. Time for substitutes
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my daughter said does the transmission keep dropping off?
No , it's just that there's nothing happening
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We're not going to solve our problems till we get a decent defensive centre-midfielder. Defence has been generally shite for years, but hasn't helped that they never get any protection.
- Whelan doesn't have the legs, and constantly clogs it at every available opportunity, thus inviting more pressure.
- Jedinak - Likewise
- Hourihane - NOT a defensive midfielder. Doesn't tackle. In fact, I'd put him in the Hitz category..... Pops up with the odd belter of a shot but offers nothing else.
With the squad and injuries we have, I'd play 4-4-2, with SJM and Thor in the middle, Albert/El Ghazi on the wings, and Jimmy/Kienan + Hogan up front. We're not going to keep clean sheets with our current squad, so just adopt the Keegan approach.
*I do think that once the dust settles and we get new players in/back from injury, I'd give Bree a solid run at RB till end of season to prove himself. I think we have a half decent player there.
Hourihane offers nothing else !?....played most games in 2018 and involved in most goals , scoring 11 plus 6 assists. I’m sorry but there are too many negative emotions without looking at facts on here lately
It's just stats. Where's the stat that tells us how many goals we've conceded because he hasn't done his job cutting out the supply line from midfield. Lost count how many times I've seen him watch the opposition coast past him when he should have blocked them off or got his foot in. All very well making goals, but I'd wager he's been responsible for us conceding a fuck load too.
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i'm sure we're cursed!
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Did Smith make any changes ?
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Glen whelan and hogan should be nowhere near our 1st team after today there absolute shite
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You're not going to win a lot of games with Hutton and Whelen starting. In fact, I'd like to know if we've ever actually won a game when both have started.
Whelan started SHA game I think.
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You're not going to win a lot of games with Hutton and Whelen starting. In fact, I'd like to know if we've ever actually won a game when both have started.
Course we have. Plenty last season. Several this season - Blues for one example.
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So now we’re shit in defence and offer nothing in attack. Brilliant.
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You're not going to win a lot of games with Hutton and Whelen starting. In fact, I'd like to know if we've ever actually won a game when both have started.
Whelan started SHA game I think.
Came on as sub
Beg pardon he started
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Crowd booing O'Hare coming off but in reality he's been as poor as everyone else.
Kodj on.
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Since Smith has been here we've had a couple of poor results, Leeds and QPR, but I've always consoled myself with the fact that nobody has outclassed us. But this is very worrying.
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Just goes to show how poor our squad is in general...and it will become even worse without the players we have on loan. To have spent so much in the Championship yet to still be so poor speaks volumes of the mismanagement at the club. DS has to right the wrongs of so many managers that have come before him.
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We're not going to solve our problems till we get a decent defensive centre-midfielder. Defence has been generally shite for years, but hasn't helped that they never get any protection.
- Whelan doesn't have the legs, and constantly clogs it at every available opportunity, thus inviting more pressure.
- Jedinak - Likewise
- Hourihane - NOT a defensive midfielder. Doesn't tackle. In fact, I'd put him in the Hitz category..... Pops up with the odd belter of a shot but offers nothing else.
With the squad and injuries we have, I'd play 4-4-2, with SJM and Thor in the middle, Albert/El Ghazi on the wings, and Jimmy/Kienan + Hogan up front. We're not going to keep clean sheets with our current squad, so just adopt the Keegan approach.
*I do think that once the dust settles and we get new players in/back from injury, I'd give Bree a solid run at RB till end of season to prove himself. I think we have a half decent player there.
Hourihane offers nothing else !?....played most games in 2018 and involved in most goals , scoring 11 plus 6 assists. I’m sorry but there are too many negative emotions without looking at facts on here lately
It's just stats. Where's the stat that tells us how many goals we've conceded because he hasn't done his job cutting out the supply line from midfield. Lost count how many times I've seen him watch the opposition coast past him when he should have blocked them off or got his foot in. All very well making goals, but I'd wager he's been responsible for us conceding a fuck load too.
No idea where it is, I guess you would have provided it if available and relevant
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What I would give now for yet another 2-2
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Dean - I know you had a fucking massive task in front of you when you took on the job but you are becoming the architect of your own downfall here. I'm all for acknowledging you need time and a chance to change things but fuck me get a grip with your team selections.
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Good run from SJM - to complex finishing from AA - COH off, JK on.
(Acronym time ;) )
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Crowd booing O'Hare coming off but in reality he's been as poor as everyone else.
Kodj on.
Someone quoted that opposition had coasted past him a few times so why boo when substituted !?
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What I would give now for yet another 2-2
No Tammy !
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Twice safe hands from Kalinic.
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So now we’re shit in defence and offer nothing in attack. Brilliant.
Stop being so negative! Think of the positives, our midfield and goalkeeping positions are sorted..... Err, um, or something.
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Just goes to show how poor our squad is in general...and it will become even worse without the players we have on loan. To have spent so much in the Championship yet to still be so poor speaks volumes of the mismanagement at the club. DS has to right the wrongs of so many managers that have come before him.
That sounds exactly like a quote halfway through Bruce’s season last year
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what do we persistently try to run with the ball past everyone, thereby not having a clue where anybody else is, and ultimately losing possession - time and time again we do it
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Lansbury for Whelan
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There's only 1 player in a Villa shirt thats actually playing like he gives a damn and thats McGuinn.
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Derby just come back to level from 2 down v saints
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How have we gone from the boro game and neutrals saying everyone in the league is scared of us to this fucking bilge?
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Meanwhile Derby come back to 2-2 against Southampton having been 0-2 down with weakened sude
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How have we gone from the boro game and neutrals saying everyone in the league is scared of us to this fucking bilge?
Grealish
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Whelan can keep walking as far as I'm concerned.
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It’s hardly surprising. Look at our back four today, it’s awful.
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Just had an AV tweet saying swans blocking loads of shots....are we saying their defensive coaches are better than ours ?
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I said it last week, but the honeymoon period for Smith is well and truly over.
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I said it last week, but the honeymoon period for Smith is well and truly over.
Indeed.
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You are right Riss. The honeymoon is over.
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Lansbury offering an iota of quality since he came on.
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Lansbury offering an iota of quality since he came on.
Yes looks very good
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We already seem a little more assured with Lansbury for Whelan. What do managers SEE in Whelan?! But he'll probably be back in the starting 11 next game.
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A bit more tempo to our passing since Lansbury came on - (no surprise as Whelan stops it every time)
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Smith has yet to show what the hell we're going to do long-term. The ship that takes us to the Premier League has a huge hole in it, and Grealish won't be around to patch it come the summer. Giving time and money is all very well, but can you say any of our players look better? Short of replacing literally everybody, Smith has to get some partnerships going, some adjustments to roles, because this quite frankly is a load of bollocks.
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Yeah but its 'more exciting and he gets us'
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Lansbury should have started all day long. Baffling.
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fucking ell swansea ..it wasnt a leg breaker ffs
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Problem seems to me that Smith has bought into Bruceology.
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Lansbury should have started all day long. Baffling.
He’s coming back from injury, might not want to put too much pressure on him first game back
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We already seem a little more assured with Lansbury for Whelan. What do managers SEE in Whelan?! But he'll probably be back in the starting 11 next game.
Agree... to,prob give Mcginn a rest 🤣🤣
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I'm not having a pop at Smith per se, and certainly not as a reaction to today, but we've been hanging in games without Grealish rather than creating our own momentum, and that can't go on. Sooner or later we have to find a way to win without him.
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Hogan off for Davis
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Hogan is diabolical
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Hogan is diabolical
Won’t stop him banging on smith’s door.
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We're just not very good, are we?
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Fuck me. Better corners (no fucking shock with Wheland not taking them) and close by Elphick.
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Hogan's done fuck all all day except miss a good chance. Which is more or less his regular MO.
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We're just not very good, are we?
nope.
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I'm not having a pop at Smith per se, and certainly not as a reaction to today, but we've been hanging in games without Grealish rather than creating our own momentum, and that can't go on. Sooner or later we have to find a way to win without him.
We've had 5 games in two weeks. It's about sticking plasters with a schedule like that. He made enough of a difference when he came in with some time on the training ground to suggest he can sort it long term.
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Hogan just needs to leave. Villa isn't for him and that won't change.
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Accrington 1 Ipswich 0
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What a fucking disaster 3-0
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Awful at the back again
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Oh dear. That was a poor goal.
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dreadful 3 0
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I have said in the past whoever scouted Hogan should be tarred and feathered. Now I think he should be hanged, drawn and quartered.
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I don't know why we are put in the hat for the third round draw.
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Crap. Utter crap.
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hutton is useless
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0-3.
There's an awful lot to sort out here isn't there?
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Hello darkness my old friend.
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We're going to win 4-3 *
* I'm drinking Old Peculiar
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Absymal and desperate.
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We're going to win 4-3 *
* I'm drinking Old Peculiar
Someone’s making the best of a bad job.
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That third goal doesn’t get any less painful viewing on replay
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I'm sorry but even with injuries and a much changed side we've got to be doing better than 0-3 at home to Swansea.
Bar a handful of good first teamers our squad is garbage.
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Oh, well. I can make alternative arrangements for Cup final weekend.
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I know we’ve conceded too many lately but without Chester they might have been cricket scores..... why isn’t the defender from wolves having medical not been announced either ?
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I don't like losing, but I can get over it. What I can never abide is not trying in the slightest. Nothing more guaranteed to have me raging.
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I know we’ve conceded too many lately but without Chester they might have been cricket scores..... why isn’t the defender from wolves having medical not been announced either ?
Probably changed his mind after seeing us play.
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Ah well, we can concentrate on the league now.
Also, just spotted that Lamberk at Villa Park later in the month.... What's the betting we gift him a rare win? Wouldn't bet against it! :(
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Ah well, we can concentrate on the league now.
Also, just spotted that Lamberk at Villa Park later in the month.... What's the betting we gift him a rare win? Wouldn't bet against it! :(
You can see it happening can't you? He beat us with Wolves didn't he?
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I wonder if Smith will give a detailed explanation of what went wrong, talking about setting traps and all that stuff, or if he'll just shrug and blame it on changes?
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I don't like losing, but I can get over it. What I can never abide is not trying in the slightest. Nothing more guaranteed to have me raging.
Quite. It's not like we're playing a top 6 Premier League team. Swansea are no better than us, but are hopeing for promotion themselves. This has been easily as piss poor as anything Bruce served up.
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We're going to win 4-3 *
* I'm drinking Old Peculiar
You're ingesting straight meth tapped to your veins
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I don't like losing, but I can get over it. What I can never abide is not trying in the slightest. Nothing more guaranteed to have me raging.
Quite. It's not like we're playing a top 6 Premier League team. Swansea are no better than us, but are hopeing for promotion themselves. This has been easily as piss poor as anything Bruce served up.
Yep pathetic, and not anywhere near good enough.
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Ah well, we can concentrate on the league now.
Also, just spotted that Lamberk at Villa Park later in the month.... What's the betting we gift him a rare win? Wouldn't bet against it! :(
Guaranteed, so pissed off right now.
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And losing at home too, in such a meek way. What an abject lot we really are.
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Performances and results have dropped off since Baggies away. Each week since then it’s been said that it’s the worst we’ve played since Bruce left...and this weekend has only continued that trend. How much is worse is it going to get until it starts to get better?
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No team does 'the wheels are coming off' quite as well as Villa.
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Hearing attendance has been adjusted by 10k what’s that all about I’ve got vital points I’m guessing for !?
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No team does 'the wheels are coming off' quite as well as Villa.
we've had plenty of practice Risso in the past decade. You and were supremely more handsome fellas the last time it felt genuinely good to be a Villa fan.
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Smith needs to go home tonight and pretend that he is still managing Brentford. He has walked straight into the swamp.
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No team does 'the wheels are coming off' quite as well as Villa.
we've had plenty of practice Risso in the past decade. You and were supremely more handsome fellas the last time it felt genuinely good to be a Villa fan.
I still get mistaken for Brad Pitt I'll have you know.
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It seems that every time I look up from my work I see Hutton lying on the ground.
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Hearing attendance has been adjusted by 10k what’s that all about I’ve got vital points I’m guessing for !?
My guess is they don't want the embarrassment of announcing a 40K crowd when it looks ¾ full!
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The Scottish Snafu.
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Smith needs to go home tonight and pretend that he is still managing Brentford.
After this mess he may well wish he still was.
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The Scottish Snafu.
Brilliant
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Smith needs to go home tonight and pretend that he is still managing Brentford. He has walked straight into the swamp.
Have we broken Smith already?