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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Louzie0 on December 29, 2018, 08:58:57 PM
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Welcome to Guess The Crowd FACup EXTRA round 1: Aston Villa v Swansea City at 3pm on Saturday 5th January!
It would be nice to stay in this Cup competition for longer than the last one!
Come on, Deano.
And the lads, of course.
The Brucie is wild all week and Upper St Trinians is open again 👍
Let joy be unconfined.
UTV!
Louzie0
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32109
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28,750
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33,027
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37,000.
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35000
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35,089
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36,243
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34,819
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34900
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Difficult one due to the unpredictability of ST holders.
Going by the Middlesboro turn out last season, I'm going to say 34,590.
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37210
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38,313
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33433
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37,329
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35075
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34545
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29,333
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35,037
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35456
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35666
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35309
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36,282
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35,898
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36,421
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35602
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32,324
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34500
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31,233
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37,745
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33,726
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27,273
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31,533
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34,666
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34,431
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35600
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39231
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36,555
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35,550
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34,102
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37,302
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36,309
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35 563
Anyone know the capacity of the upper trinity?
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33,333 unless Wolves fans come to look at Tammy.
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33502
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34007
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34,223
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35,402
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Edited in error
Original guess was 37300
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36528
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32021
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38,101
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Edited in error
Original guess was 37300
Sorry, Rotterdam 82, I’ve done it myself by accident, more than once when I corrected a typo before remembering which thread I was in! :o Aaaaaaaargh!
‘No editing’ is our only rule and it’s an automatic 1 point.
Only halfway through the season and loads of rounds to go. Hopefully a few more FACup EXTRAS as well! Onward and upward!
UTV!
Louzie0
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38,354
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39,724
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37,852
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37033
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36521
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37952
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34,004
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39,965
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39126
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37073
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37,780
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36.666
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37,105
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37605
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39,017
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39,701
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39,725
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Bullshit official attendance and we shouldn't go with it
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They've knocked 10k off the crowd.
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Whats been announced then ?
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30,572
BBC
From the intro post to this season of GTC :
‘The idea in every round is to guess what you think the official attendance figure will be, for that match. I post the figure that AVFC releases to the press at the end of every round on the Guess thread and award points according to how close you are to the total.’
I usually use the BBC sport report. If there’s a press outlet saying something different and it’s from AVFC, please let me know.
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If you were there you know. In terms of fairness you should cancel this round.
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If you were there you know. In terms of fairness you should cancel this round.
I agree based on the fact the club actually communicated today that there were no match day tickets left. You can’t tell me that roughly half of all ST holders stayed away.
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At least 35,000 there. At least.
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I don’t want to do that ( cancel the round).
I will freeze this round for a while, though. There are posts on the match thread about this issue, today. 10K is a massive difference. It’s nearly a quarter of the capacity!
The main thing about Guess The Crowd is that it’s honest. ( I‘d add fun and inclusive.) To be that, it has to have integrity. If we can’t Guess with any expectations of accuracy in the actual figure released by the club, that’s serious for the game.
I know people from the club read this forum, along with others. I’m looking for some explanation or comment to move this on please, and resolve an unhappy perception today that the official attendance figure released is out by nearly or around 5-10K, by people who were there today and saw the turn-out.
Maybe not top of the list for some after a crap result but this is the GTC thread!
Just a point to consider.
As teams here and elsewhere have said, non-attendance by season ticket holders doesn’t cover it, really. That comes up a lot during every season but nowhere near this scale.
UTV! Above all.
Louzie0
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Not only did we disrespect the fa cup today, the club have shown utter contempt for our fan base Boos all round
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When the official attendance was announced there was a combined gasp and laughter around us in the Holte. Patently wrong.
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We want a replay. Perhaps not, just get me home
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Well if the club can fiddle attendance figures then FFP should be a doddle to get round.
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There were, in fact 37,302 there🙄
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How full was upper and lower SWANSEA ?
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How full was upper and lower SWANSEA ?
Lower full, upper about 3/4
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So based on them selling just over 2500 and we had no match day tickets left as all ST holders had they’re seats sold to them (activated free) and not available for anyone else to purchase it has to be over 40k !?
Is our accountant going to be able to ensure our compliance to FFP easier
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It doesnt matter how many tickets are sold really as this is guess the crowd so the only number needed is the official attendance figure. It did look more like 40K than 30k though to be fair.
whatever. Admins decision is final.
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Well it does matter if the "official" figure is a concocted fairy story and this round should be null and void.
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I don't think there was one person who went NYD and yesterday who thought the QPR attendance was higher
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There were loads of empty seats though. Even around us at the centre of the Trinity there were rows with only one or two regulars. The same with Witton Lane and the Lower Holte.
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There were loads of empty seats though. Even around us at the centre of the Trinity there were rows with only one or two regulars. The same with Witton Lane and the Lower Holte.
"Loads" . Not 12,000 though.
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I’m freezing this for 48 hours before going ahead with GTC one way or another, tomorrow, as points hang on the resolution! Today’s Sunday, which may have affected access.
I note everybody’s comments so far.
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At least 35,000 there. At least.
35075 to be precise.
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I’m freezing this for 48 hours before going ahead with GTC one way or another, tomorrow, as points hang on the resolution! Today’s Sunday, which may have affected access.
I note everybody’s comments so far.
Hey Louzie0, I've been off line until now, can't we make a new rule that says first round of a cup comp at home doesn't count until we progress to LC2 or FAC4 (I.e. the rounds where interest perks up). And apply retrospectively for this season?
Oops we aren't progressing in either!!!
UTV 260475
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Here are the points from FACupEXTRAS!
I’m going with the published attendance figure which is unchanged from Saturday on the AVFC official site as well as the BBC.
Questions about the figure have been posed on @AVFC and @AVFCSupport with no response so far but we need to move on with GTC.
The fairest thing to do at this stage is to stick to our way of playing the game and credit every team that entered the round.
So, the points are:
2: Caribbeanvillan and ldavfc4eva! 8) 8)
A point for entering goes to:
Legion, Villa ‘cross the mersey, thick_mike, CDBWF, LondonVillan, The Moose, wittonwarrior, Axl Rose, Brassneck, Tugby Villain, jimmygreen, SashasGrandad, darren woolley, 260475, Godfrey Brian, Reuben, frank. Towser, ironmaidenmania, PGW, Walmley_Villa, TheTimVilla, simon ward 50, Three Spires Villa, JUAN PABLO, CT, Stu82, eddiemunster, WALTERS WARRIORS, TelfordVilla, Sid1964, Comrade Blitz, Richard, Nunkin 1965, Olaftab, Skerra, dave shelley, simboy, The Edge, robbo1874, MillerBall, JD, johnboy, Rotterdam. Charlie8182, Rotterdam 82, Fasth56, clash city rocker, berneboy, pooligan, PWS, QuintonVilla, mjlions, littleoldme, Woofles TWD, Dazvillain, amfy, AlexAlexCropley, Gregorys Boy, West Derby Villan, eamonn, maidstonevillan, RudyCan’tFail, four fornicholl and Louzie0!
And They All Count!
67 teams entered this round. There was a double Guess and an edit, with reply.
Thanks for your patience and sorry we didn’t get an explanation that fitted what a lot of fans saw around them, on Saturday, but GTC carries on!
I have found a few rounds where we all got a shock, looking back over the last couple of seasons, and almost everybody ended up with 1 point. Usually it was a very low figure, or away, like:
GTC 16/17: Villa v Barnsley 26,435
Villa v QPR. 27,154
GTC 17/18: Wigan v Villa. 18,108 ( LCX)
Boro v Villa. 11, 197 (LCX)
I will update Divisions with the QPR points as well, this week and it’s great to see some teams reviving themselves this round, whatever the score!
GTC14 Villa v Hull will be launched soon, so keep your 👀 on H&V!
UTV!
Louzie0
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We go again...as someone once said.
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Thanks again for doing this for us Lou. Don't stress yourself if things go belly-up from time to time. You should be used to that anyway being a Villa supporter.
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Thanks Lou, senior officiaters ruling counts and is respected by myself as well as many on here thanks .
Your efforts are extremely appreciated
Daz
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Thanks, all, much appreciated.
Stand by for GTC 14!
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Thanks Lou, what a crazy situation!