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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 29, 2018, 02:00:50 PM
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No rotation at all.
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Thought Barney might have come in but to be fair Whelan has done ok lately and PNE have got lots of injuries.
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three games in a week for Whelan is asking for trouble. BB must not be fit enough. We are very thin in midfield.
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Strange no rotation!
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I know we are short on numbers but do we really need 3 strikers on the bench?
Where are the midfielders?
Still I trust Smith knows his best team and set up so won't argue too much.
Utv
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I know we are short on numbers but do we really need 3 strikers on the bench?
Where are the midfielders?
Still I trust Smith knows his best team and set up so won't argue too much.
Utv
I suppose the question is who else is there at the club he could be putting on the bench? Even the kids like O'Hare are injured. Doyle Hayes maybe.
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Would have preferred Albert over El Ghazi to provide a bit of extra tracking back.
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to all those Villans that have made the trip
I hope you enjoy tucking into your Quinoa
I hope you see a Villa win
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Come on the mighty Villa! 3 points please! UTV.
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SJM is one yellow off a suspension - hopefully he'll pick that up on Tuesday rather than today
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Be nice to get an early goal to give us some breathing space and make some changes in the second half. UTV.
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He gets two games if he gets ten bookings.
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Win please.
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Oh bugger
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I don't reckon Bjarnarson is fully fit. It's the only reason for not swapping him and Whelan. Suspect if Smith can do it we will see 2 in and 2 out in terms of squad players in midfield.
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Reading the PNE twitter feed, their fans are just hoping not to get battered given their injury problems.
We really need to win and get ourselves into a position where we can make some early changes.
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Could McGinn be suspended for the FA cup game if he picks up a yellow today or Tuesday?
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Solid Villa win . . . and don't let Whelan anywhere near if we get a penalty!
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Could McGinn be suspended for the FA cup game if he picks up a yellow today or Tuesday?
I'm fairly sure that all cards are now competition specific. So, no.
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Same line-up as the Swansea game?
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Didn’t realise Graham Burke is at Preston
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We are horrible. Wtf Nyland? Whelan... Jesus
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That should cover today :)
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Lively start from Preston
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Nyland you chump! Lucky there
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I think we are still on the coach!
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Why do I read the same things on this thread every week....ie the opponents have started well and we have been lucky.
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Can anyone share a way of watching the game please?
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Think only available via AVTV (or Prestons equivalent service)
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I know totally irrelevant, but there are some services (virtual private networks) that opens stuff
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Settled down a bit now but that was an awful first 5 mins. Our defence is shocking
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We sound half asleep.
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Weds 1 up at the bitters.
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Think only available via AVTV (or Prestons equivalent service)
AVTV not working for me, the bastards.
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Looks like most of the 5600 away fans are from h&v 😎
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Preston started well with a couple of corners forced down our right hand side (Nyland dropped/flapped at one) all within the first 2 mins. Settled down a bit now. Conor almost through on goal
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That was better
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Think only available via AVTV (or Prestons equivalent service)
AVTV not working for me, the bastards.
Watching in Brazil, works here. If you are outside UK
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Think only available via AVTV (or Prestons equivalent service)
AVTV not working for me, the bastards.
Mine's working on PC and Android phone.
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Audio commentary is working OK on AVTV, just a case of putting up with the awful commentary
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Most teams will now think that if they don't score first and then cling on, they're going to get battered. That's why they come out the traps like they do.
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We need to do the simple things better. We’ve calmed down a bit after a shaky start but we are our own worst enemy right now being sloppy in possession or trying to do too much with the ball.
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Have to say Nyland's throws are amazing
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Not found any rhythm and nothing quite coming off on either wing.
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It’s clear we still have too many technically inept players
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Good clearance from Whelan
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Whelans doing well,k
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Well done Whelan again.
Aberdolph Lincler not sharp up front (18)
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We're hoofing it for some reason.
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We are not great at the moment and giving them too much encouragement.
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Hull winning at Leeds
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Sloppy
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I am battling with AVTV
Paid my money, just stuck watching the circle spin around.
Will not connect
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Results going our way providing we do our job
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Bolasie sloppy
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Hull winning at Leeds
Game doesn’t end for Norwich and Leeds until about the 95th minute where they will get a draw or winner. Bastards
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Sloppy
Sloppier than a Christmas day trifle that's been left out the fridge
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I am battling with AVTV
Paid my money, just stuck watching the circle spin around.
Will not connect
Oh for a circle spinning around.
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I am battling with AVTV
Paid my money, just stuck watching the circle spin around.
Will not connect
PC?
Expand the playbar thingy and press play then?
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Sloppy
Sloppier than a Christmas day trifle that's been left out the fridge
I have to admit. I do miss a good trifle.
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Come on Villa find your men, passing is terrible
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AVTV took my money without me even ordering to watch the game. They are now being right bellends about the whole thing.
Anyway, come on Villa!
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Both wingers are having bad games at the moment
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Sloppy
Sloppier than a Christmas day trifle that's been left out the fridge
I have to admit. I do miss a good trifle.
One of the things I do miss about the UK.
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Norwich 2-0 up.
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Norwich 2-0 up against Derby.
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Come on villa, 3 pts and above derby tonight
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Good save by Nyland
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Bree doing well there. Showed a bit of strength and composure.
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Sloppy
Sloppier than a Christmas day trifle that's been left out the fridge
I have to admit. I do miss a good trifle.
If you can handle the sugar overload you should treat yourself. Good ones are magical things
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Great save from Nyland.
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Fuck we are sloppy. Great save
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Fantastic save from Nyland - Jeezus
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Do Canadians not do trifle? The savages.
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Must repeat - Nyland throwing ball out is pretty good
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Do Canadians not do trifle? The savages.
Shit!! Is this true?
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Derby get one back
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Looked like defender lashed out at Elghazi
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Nyland in a nutshell, great save then like Bambi on ice
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Nyland looking like bambi on ice, he's either pulling off a great save or terrifying to watch, he doesn't seem to do middle ground.
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Do Canadians not do trifle? The savages.
I’ve not seen any and if they do it’s within the confines of the ex pats communities. My aunt used to make one with with a chocolate infused sponge and flame crushed into the whipped cream on top. It was something else.
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Do Canadians not do trifle? The savages.
Shit!! Is this true?
What's a trifle
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Little bit more joy now the wingers have swapped sides
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El Ghazi should have done better there.
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Best chance so far, El Garzhi should have scored
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Poor from El Ghazi should have squared it to Tammy instead he skied it over the bar
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Would pay for AVTV if it wasn't technically sub par what a poor vlogger can accomplish from their living-room ...
Think its like that for many Villains around the world... Money that never reach the club. Its a disgrace.
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Do Canadians not do trifle? The savages.
Shit!! Is this true?
What's a trifle
*Crosses Faroe Islands off list of places to consider moving to.
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I had my first trifle for years on Christmas Eve. I’d forgotten how good they actually are.
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We are extremely sloppy in possession, El Ghazi needs to be subbed for Albert immediately.
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TTTTAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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YESSSSSSSSSS 1-0
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Abraham!!!!!!
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TAMMY!!!
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Tammy!!!
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Abraham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From a Whelan corner of all people.
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Get the fuck in Tammy!!!!!!!!
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SCOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Yesssss! 14 goals for Tammy
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Abraham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From a Whelan corner of all people.
I’m probably Whelan’s biggest critic but he’s actually been excellent this first half.
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Why the fuck isn't Whelan taking all our corners and penalties
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Yes
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The Villa fans is fine voice
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Right on the stroke of half time as well. Perfect
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Get in....ffs derby levelled
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Why the fuck isn't Whelan taking all our corners and penalties
Especially against Preston.
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Why the fuck isn't Whelan taking all our corners and penalties
When you want a manager fired Whelan’s yer man from the spot
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Get in.
Derby back to 2-2, also.
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Tammy Tammy Tammy Tammy!
Lucky trifle bantz, IMO.
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Get in.
Derby back to 2-2, also.
Norwich won three-two with an injury time winner.
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The Villa fans is fine voice
Come on you lot sing us to victory in second half 😜
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Probably undeserved, but we’ll take it.
This goalie we’ve got is a bit good.
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We are sixth as it stands
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Get in.
Derby back to 2-2, also.
Calm down, there'll be twenty three minutes injury time to come.
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Abraham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From a Whelan corner of all people.
I’m probably Whelan’s biggest critic but he’s actually been excellent this first half.
There's actually been forward passing to people who aren't double marked which has helped his cause.
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Wish I hadn't been up being sick all night and had been able to attend.
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Poor performance. Thank God for the goal.
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Wish I hadn't been up listening to U2 all night and had been able to attend.
I knew it!!!!
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Get in.
Derby back to 2-2, also.
Norwich won six-five with an injury time winner having been five-two down.
Fixed.
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We are sixth as it stands
7th
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Tammy Tammy Tammy Tammy!
Lucky trifle bantz, IMO.
Surely that's a yellow card offence.
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Preston hit the bar and Nyland made a great save from a volley, they've been trying to hit us on the break and have been getting stuck into us too - I'd say we're pretty fortunate to be leading this.
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Bantz, loves U2 and Micah Richards, no wonder I banned his IP address....
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Come on Villa, big second half.
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You're lucky we are winning and I'm in a good mood, otherwise I would be dishing out some serious passive aggression. It might even involve tutting and rolling eyes.
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Didn’t play well at all that half but still gonin 1-0 up. Need to be better second half and kill this off and then we are back in the mix for the top 6
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Perfect timing, just in time for the goal. I trust that was our bad half from what I saw on a crap FB link.
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A trifle a thing of little value or importance.
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Perfect timing, just in time for the goal. I trust that was our bad half from what I saw on a crap FB link.
The one that was often sideways? Shouldn't complain as they make the effort to stream for us but the Swansea FB streamer never shut up and seemed to think people were tuning in to listen to him rather than watch the game.
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The greatest moments on here have been conversations about biscuits, sauce and most recently trifle. It’s what we do best in lieu of the dross we’ve had to endure the majority of the past decade.
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Put some tinned fruit in a Bowll, melt some jelly cubes in hot water and pour over tinned fruit.
You can add sherry if you want.
Wait to set.
Make some custard and poor over jelly.
Wait to set.
Bung a load of fresh cream on top.
Sprinkle with stuff and stuck a glaced cherry on the top.
A Trifle.
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According to Guinness World Records, students of Clarendon College made a sherry trifle weighing 3.13 tons (6,900 lbs.) on September 26, 1990. This remains to date the biggest sherry trifle and one of the biggest desserts ever made in history.
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I’ve just had a baguette with anchovies, eggs , cheese , peppers and tapenade. A proper trifle of a sandwich.
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Perfect timing, just in time for the goal. I trust that was our bad half from what I saw on a crap FB link.
The one that was often sideways? Shouldn't complain as they make the effort to stream for us but the Swansea FB streamer never shut up and seemed to think people were tuning in to listen to him rather than watch the game.
Yup. The Swansea FB streamer was a beast, belching, farting and swearing like a trooper. Mrs RCF was giving me some very strange looks and I doubt her opinion of football supporters has gone up in the last few days.
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Just for Edvard
Traditional English Trifle (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/books/delias-happy-christmas/traditional-english-trifle)
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Lucky again at the start of this half
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Just for Edvard
Traditional English Trifle (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/books/delias-happy-christmas/traditional-english-trifle)
Good old Delia. I wouldn’t trust her with a microphone after half a bottle of sherry, but she’s a dab hand in the kitchen.
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I've seen enough puddings in Villa shirts over the last 10 Years. Time for the cream to rise to the top.
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Just for Edvard
Traditional English Trifle (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/books/delias-happy-christmas/traditional-english-trifle)
Think its a mix with pudding cream and other stuff, then we might have that :) (med svedsker ;) )
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McGinn should have buried that header.
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mcginn misses sitter
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Just for Edvard
Traditional English Trifle (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/books/delias-happy-christmas/traditional-english-trifle)
Poncy, oh yeh I forgot the sponge fingers.
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Doctor, my ears are full of cream, custard and fruit. What's wrong with me?
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That’s a bad foul by Johnson on McGinn. Just a yellow
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Just for Edvard
Traditional English Trifle (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/books/delias-happy-christmas/traditional-english-trifle)
Poncy, oh yeh I forgot the sponge fingers.
Arn't they Lady Fingers...moist
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Is the game that poor?
Yellow or ref for DJ?
Yellow only
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Is McGinn okay?
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What is the difference between Johnny Craddock and a cross country run?
On is a pant in the country.
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Is McGinn okay?
Yep
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Ffs
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Sheff U down to 10. Red card.
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Doctor, my ears are full of cream, custard and fruit. What's wrong with me?
Go on!
You're a trifle deaf;0
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That was an awful free kick from Hourihane.
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I think 47% of all posts have nothing to do with the game.
Edit: 49 with this one
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Johnson should be fucking sent off. Another bad foul on McGinn
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Johnson is lucky to still be on the pitch.
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I think 47% of all posts have nothing to do with the game.
Edit: 49 with this one
72% of statistics are just made up.
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Just for Edvard
Traditional English Trifle (https://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/books/delias-happy-christmas/traditional-english-trifle)
Delia Let's be haven' you! Think she's guzzled the rest of the Madeira as she's forgot to include the jelly!
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Johnson foul on McGinn again. Not as bad as the first one but he must be on his last chance.
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Leeds 2 down.
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Leeds 0-2
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Leeds 2-0 down
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Leeds 2 down.
Get in.
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Anyone know how Leeds are doing?
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I think 47% of all posts have nothing to do with the game.
Edit: 49 with this one
72% of statistics are just made up.
True and 1 in 2 persons make up 50% of the population
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I wish I knew how Dirty Leeds were getting on.
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Ref has lost it.
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Off the line. Riding our luck this half
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Nyland all over the place and Hutton clears off the line
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Sort it Villa.
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I wish I knew how Dirty Leeds were getting on.
I just came back from the future and they won 3-2. Roofe with the winner on 97
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Leeds. Leeds are falling apart. Again.
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Tammy booked high boot
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Leeds losing at home 2-0.
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Impressive impersonation of a starfish by Nylons
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Bollocks
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Fuck off 1-1
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Even though a Norwich win could see us edge into the playoff positions on current scores, it's probably best if it stays as a draw. That way we're reeling them all in slowly.
January reinforcements and we should be 'There or Thereabouts™' come May.
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Ffs
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Piss. Been coming.
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Fuck off
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Awful
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Fucking AVTV is shit too.
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1-1 goal was coming. Set up by DJ who is lucky to be on the pitch
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Even though a Norwich win could see us edge into the playoff positions on current scores, it's probably best if it stays as a draw. That way we're reeling them all in slowly.
January reinforcements and we should be 'There or Thereabouts™' come May.
Spoke too soon!
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We’ve been so below average today. Sloppy all over the fucking place. Off course Johnson who provided the cross shouldn’t even be on the pitch.
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Ridiculous- all panic
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Right, get Kodja on for fucks sake!
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Oh fuck off, we’re not great at the moment.
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Fucking liability Elmohamady
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Not good few days for Elmo
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How many assists is that for Elmo this Christmas?
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Right, get Kodja on for fucks sake!
For the totally anonymous El Ghazi please.
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That was Nmecha’s first goal for Preston
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So they come out second half and start being aggressive, ref let’s them get away with it, some of our players don’t want to know, goalkeeper stasts the panic, they score.
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I’m slightly puzzled by the lack of rotation. We look poor.
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Right, get Kodja on for fucks sake!
For the totally anonymous El Ghazi please.
x2
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If mcginn had put that header away ;(
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The ref has to get a hold of this. The instruction clearly has been to get physical with us.
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Typical Villa, when results are going our way
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Fucking hell close again for them
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well at least I didn't see it as both streams I had have vanished.
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So they come out second half and start being aggressive, ref let’s them get away with it, some of our players don’t want to know, goalkeeper stasts the panic, they score.
Noticed somehow all is Nylands fault with you?
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Poor from Bree almost cost us then
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Typical if we fuck this up when all the results go our way.
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They got physical in the Villa Park game as well and ripped us a new one in the 2nd half.
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To be fair, the keeper is all over the shop.
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Nyland hesitant again
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Was given as an Elmo og.
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Fuck me we are living on the edge here.
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This is piss poor, unacceptable.
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That was Nmecha’s first goal for Preston
BBC have it as an Elmo own goal?
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How about a change Dean?
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Was given as an Elmo og.
At least he’s consistent
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They’ve clearly decided to whack it long over the top
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They've hit the post again. FFS Villa wake up
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FUCK ME NYLAND.
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How about a change Dean?
Think JK is coming on. They've just hit the post. Apologies the commentator said JK was getting ready but Albert is on for Bolasie
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Kodjia for Bolasie
Edit: Albert on
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Fuck me, now they've hit the post.
They're definitely targeting Elmo/Bree.
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Albert for Bolasie
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My God AVTV is utter shit. Can we not do better than have a bloke commentating from his cell phone? Utter crap
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Which one is it lol?!
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Rubbish.
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Hutton gets a yellow
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Hutton booked for a challenge
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Elmo is a fucking disaster.
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Typical snidey/niggly Alex Neil team/performance.
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This is by far the most disjointed and disorganized we have looked since Dean Smith took over
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So they come out second half and start being aggressive, ref let’s them get away with it, some of our players don’t want to know, goalkeeper stasts the panic, they score.
Noticed somehow all is Nylands fault with you?
He is flapping around like an orange flapping thing.
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We’ve looked pretty crap lately.
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How can they give off-side against El Ghazi if he was in his own half?
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Sounds like 1-1 would be good the way we are playing
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We’ve been scrambling ever since Grealish got injured. Our tempo is entirely different without him.
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Rubbish.
I think Delia's trifle maybe the problem
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Pure panic. Exposing our lack of pace in defence
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Worrying if we can’t get a performance/result against these bog standard championship cloggers. Bruce was berated, rightly, for his inability to do it at the start of the season.
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All Preston right now
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We’ve been scrambling ever since Grealish got injured. Our tempo is entirely different without him.
As is our ability to control/retain possession and relieve pressure.
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Thor on for Whelan
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As it stands almost every result is going for us and we cannot take advantage.
Thor on for Whelan
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Bjarnasson for Whelan
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Right that should fix it
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Thor shoots wide
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BB as AM?
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We’ve been scrambling ever since Grealish got injured. Our tempo is entirely different without him.
As is our ability to control/retain possession and relieve pressure.
Yep. Jack invites 3 players on to him when he has the ball and creates space for everyone else. A huge, huge miss for us.
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Apparently some sha fans have thrown bottles at the opposition keeper
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Apparently some sha fans have thrown bottles at the opposition keeper
No doubt containing urine
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Full or empty
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We need to get Kodjia on
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Just shit today. Just shit
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Come on Villa.
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Piss poor.
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Looked like a tired side today. Need some injured players back pronto and a Grealish replacement.
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finally found another stream. Come on Villa!!
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Come on Villa score from this corner
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Better Villa
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finally found another stream. Come on Villa!!
and it was blocked. fuck me AVTV are on a banning frenzy.
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Wolves winning at Spurs. Fuck me
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Fcuk off Norwich.
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Norwich take the lead
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Not good enough.
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I don't think we need to worry too much about Norwich and Leeds as it stands at the moment
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I don’t think we need bother looking at the Leeds and Norwich scores anymore.
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1-3 Wolves
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Ha, agreed VillaMole
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Piss poor today against a very, very average side.
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We will make the playoffs- just need to get a winning habit
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We keep saying that.
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Jesus, a winner now and we'd go up 3 places. So frustrating.
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We’re struggling to break down Preston while Wolves are battering Spurs. The world is truly fucking upside down
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Making the playoffs is not going to be easy
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One goal and we're in the play off places. one last push boys.UTV
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Thor misses from a yard out.
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HOW THE FUCK DID THOR MISS?
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FFS Thor miss of the season
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Some pisss poor performances today.
What the fuck have the last 2=corners been about?
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There are NEVER any good late goals.
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Mother fucker BB you idiot
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How the fuck did Bjarnasson miss that?
Over the bar from ½ yard out.
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FFS Thor miss of the season
Century!
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that miss.
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Fuck me close again for us
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Unlucky for BB and Tammy just the wrong side of the ball when it came out
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3 mins to go
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Not beating these is a bad result. Thanks for a few weeks of hope, Villa, but my money is back in my pocket now.
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Not good enough, poor result.
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Aaaaarrrgghh so fucking careless today
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Unable to string 3 passes together fs
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Honestly didn't deserve a win - just so many mistakes all over
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Bog eyes equalise
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Wasteful up front and leaky at the back not a good combination.
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Poor result
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boooooo
urns
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That’s that. Crap to get a draw today. Really crap
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That's all folks.
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FFS
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Let the pants wetting begin.
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Massively disappointing result and performance today.
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Playoffs will be a struggle, exactly as I thought after the Swansea game.
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2 points dropped, unarguably. Bit if a sickener especially with the other results. How BB has missed that one is utterly beyond me.
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Not beating these is a bad result. Thanks for a few weeks of hope, Villa, but my money is back in my pocket now.
With comments like this it’s no wonder we have a fickle tag. You get behind the lads whether the result is good or bad.
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2 points dropped, unarguably. Bit if a sickener especially with the other results. How BB has missed that one is utterly beyond me.
Maybe TA too Close
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Not beating these is a bad result. Thanks for a few weeks of hope, Villa, but my money is back in my pocket now.
With comments like this it’s no wonder we have a fickle tag. You get behind the lads whether the result is good or bad.
Yes and no
Emotions are allowed - but common sense also
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What's happened at Norwich?
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Disappointing result granted but beat QPR and we’ll probably be 6th with the transfer window open. Actually think we are doing ok with the worst goalkeeper in history of the club, a makeshift defence and our best player out for 6 weeks.
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We appear to have lost our swagger.
Defensively, we are shocking and despite some good saves from the goalie he is still making too many mistakes.
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They got the winner in last few minutes again...3-2.
edit: floodlights went out but sorted it and game about to restart now.
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That was utter garbage. We were unable to pass the ball to another Villa player and looked wide open at the back. That's basic stuff that you can't blame on Grealish's absence.
The ref didn't have a great game either, poor McGinn got kicked incessantly and rarely got a free kick.
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Fucking Norwich
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Derby equalise in the 100th minute. Wtf is happening at Norwich?
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Says 88 mins on bbc
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Karma...3-4
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Derby equalise in the 100th minute. Wtf is happening at Norwich?
Floodlight failure.