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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 23, 2018, 12:31:03 PM
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Oh fuck no AT. I don't know what that side is
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So it was true about Axel, damn !
At least Adomah and BB are back but injuries are going to fuck us up.
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This lot are licking their lips.
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I have no idea what’s going on there?! Bree at centre half?
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Well it looks like Chester and Bree at CB with Elmo RB and Hutton LB, Whelan in front of the back 4. What a disaster this could be.
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Bree centre half was the only viable option .
Kodjia for el ghazi ?
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I’m guessing Elmo right back, Bree centre, Hutton left back.
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Come on you Lions! Let's do these fuckers!
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Nyland
Elmo Bree Chester Hutton
Hourihane Whelan McGinn
Kodjia Abraham Bolasie
My guess.
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Uh-oh.
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Keinan Davis is back. Is this his first bench appearance this season?
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Keinan Davis is back. Is this his first bench appearance this season?
On the bench v Stoke
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Cunning plan to confuse Leeds by wearing their shirts.
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Keinan Davis is back. Is this his first bench appearance this season?
No he was on the bench v Stoke
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Whelan and Hourihane together is just shit. Surely he can see in training that neither have pace or ability to drive us in the final third.
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Whelan to protect a weak defence. nil nil
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Well done Bruce for leaving us with no centre back coverr.
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Whelan and Hourihane together is just shit. Surely he can see in training that neither have pace or ability to drive us in the final third.
When it's all you have...
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Well done Bruce for leaving us with no centre back coverr.
Or LB
But hey at least he left us with loads of RB's to cover everywhere else ..
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Whelan in front of a makeshift centre back pairing makes perfect sense . Mcginn to drive us forward .
Come on keep the faith . It’s not like Deano won’t have given it some thought . In dean we trust .
Come on villa , get in there !!
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Would prefer Hourihane slipping back one next to Whelan. Nailed on 0-0 I guess
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How bad is Axel’s injury? FFS can we not get any luck defensively?
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How bad is Axel’s injury? FFS can we not get any luck defensively?
Foot injury , Metatarsal out for a few weeks according to Smith ..as big a blow as Grealish due to lack of cover there
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Whelan in front of a makeshift centre back pairing makes perfect sense . Mcginn to drive us forward .
Come on keep the faith . It’s not like Deano won’t have given it some thought . In dean we trust .
Come on villa , get in there !!
Don’t understand Whelan choice when BB is on bench.
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I bet JT could still do more than capably at CB.
Thanks Steve for leaving us so criminally short in that position.
I'd take a draw, but come on you Villa boys!!
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Whelan in front of a makeshift centre back pairing makes perfect sense . Mcginn to drive us forward .
Come on keep the faith . It’s not like Deano won’t have given it some thought . In dean we trust .
Come on villa , get in there !!
Don’t understand Whelan choice when BB is on bench.
Lack of match fitness in a high tempo game I’d guess. Tough to come back into the team after so long in such a high profile game
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That's bad news about Axel, going for a draw. The good news is that's a strong bench.
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Two things you can always count on. Dirty Leeds will be Dirty Leeds and their fans will behave like arseholes. Twas ever thus
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As Han Solo would say I have a bad feeling about this one
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Leeds Barry Douglas taken ill during the warm up and replaced by Davis who is making is debut after moving from Morecambe in the summer.
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Leeds will swamp the midfield, like Forest did. I reckon we need at least four players to come in, including Grealish and Kalinic. Replace both Whelan and Hourihane in the window.
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Not optimistic with that defence. Bruce really fucked us, didn't he.
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Kodjia looks up for this
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Fabulous goal.
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That was a brilliant move.
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Fuck me we play some cracking football in the final third nowadays.
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Fucking Chester, so easily turned could have cost us.
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Holy mackerels
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Allowing crosses too easily.
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Where is everyone today? So little reaction to the goal
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SKY are dubbing crowd noise all over this game, no doubt at all.
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There's no way we're going to keep a clean sheet today. Going to have to score a few.
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Where is everyone today? So little reaction to the goal
Getttttttt innnnnnnn you beautyyyyyy. Fuckin have that you Leeds fucks!
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You beauty!!!!!!
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Woot
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We look up for it. The question is can we maintain this pace and keep it tight at the back for the next 75?
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Kodjia is playing well. I'd like him to welcome their LB, Davis to senior football
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Edit: holy cow!
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Great from Kodj
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Leeds will swamp the midfield, like Forest did. I reckon we need at least four players to come in, including Grealish and Kalinic. Replace both Whelan and Hourihane in the window.
I wouldn't replace Hourihane but we could do with an upgrade/younger version of Whelan.
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Fucking lovely goal from Conor
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Get the fuck in! Great strike, but great from Kod as well.
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Right defend well Villa. Lucky.
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That's why he's always worth having in the side, I reckon.
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I do love John McGinn
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Afternoon, gents.
Not bad so far. SJM is amazing.
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We still need more, I reckon.
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I know Bolasie is better on the right but he’s certainly a handful on the left and allows Kodjia to be much more effective on the right.
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Good work there by Nyland
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We got away with one there when the ref didn't give a penalty against Hutton wrestling his man.
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Well done Orjan.
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Lost my stream. Hows going?
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Lost my stream. Hows going?
Mine’s stop and go every 30 seconds, infuriating!
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Lost my stream. Hows going?
8-0 now
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Bolasie needs to be careful.
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Fuck me Leeds coming close again.
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Lucky, defence need to be much better.
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Think we need at least one more goal to win this game. Leeds look like scoring everytime they come forward
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Leeds will know that pressure against our back four we will crack. And especially with AT out. This game literally won’t be done as a contest unless we grab a third or the ref calls full time.
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Whelan needs be better at protecting the defence.
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Great start.
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There is fight in our boys today
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Dirty Leeds living up to their name.
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This looks like a top flight match. Some good quality.
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Come on you Villa boys. I'm absolutely loving this. Middle of Tokyo, loads of Villa fans in this pub. Surreal.
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Leeds still look dangerous. Need about four more to be on the safe side. Typical we are playing a dirty shower of bastards and we have a referee who has an aversion to writing names on cards.
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Kodjia on a mission
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If it stays like this, the Ecky Thumps are going to start getting seriously dirty.
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Wake the fuck up.
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Brilliant bit of defending from Chester there, read the play really well.
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Hate not sticking a man on the post for these.
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Yikes.
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Fuck that was close
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Bloody hell, I thought that was in.
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We need at least a 3 goal cushion
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Aliosli nasty little shit.
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Afternoon all. Come on villa, give this lot a spanking
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"Nyland certainly wasn't going to get across in time" - I hate that saying, regularly used by commentators when a shot goes 6 inches outside the post but completely ignoring the fact that to hit the target the ball needs to be a foot or more closer to the keeper.
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How are we playing? Can't find a stream that works.
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Fucking ballboy leaping like Lev Yashin to catch the ball. We are two nil up sit the fuck down!
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How are we playing? Can't find a stream that works.
Being honest Leeds are better team
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In fairness, the onus is on them to attack. We are winning.
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Thanks. The line up on paper looks, erm, interesting!!!
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Feel like we need a third, but I'm really happy with that!
Still so annoyed that SKY are dubbing fake crowd noise over this game.
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Given the mess of the defence I think we've played well. They've had more of the ball but they've only created 1 decent chance for me and they tamely passed that to Nyland.
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Right good half. Restrict the chances in the second.
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Considering how many we have out and how thin we are at the back, we've done very well. They've had plenty of half-chances, but nearly all from long-range efforts.
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How are we playing? Can't find a stream that works.
Being honest Leeds are better team
Yes they have had more of the ball and finding space on the wings well but they have only really had 2 real decent chances .We are not holding onto the ball well but when we do get into final third we look dangerous.
Tammy and Kodjia very good ,Bolasi average and as he on a booking can see him being replaced pretty early on into 2nd half.
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Feel like we need a third, but I'm really happy with that!
Still so annoyed that SKY are dubbing fake crowd noise over this game.
Is there any particular reason they’re doing that?
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Leeds having more possession, they've not lost their heads and are looking threatening (they're definitely not out of it). We look good on occasion in the final third. We're defending quite well (considering no Axel) Whelan having a good game helping to protect the defence. Think we'll need another goal to make sure of this.
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How are we playing? Can't find a stream that works.
Being honest Leeds are better team
They're pressing extremely well and look dangerous both on the flanks and charging through the middle. All that said, they've failed to create many chances. We're having to do a lot of running chasing the ball but have remained focused. Leeds best chances have come from outside the box. We need another to put this game to bed.
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This game is far from being over, Leeds look good to be honest they are getting lots of players forward but the defence shielded by Whelan are doing well.
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Jimmy floyd looks at Hendrie "leeds have been controlling the game"
Hendrie smug grin 😂😂
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Aliosli nasty little shit.
I think The Damned had a song called 'Aliosli'. I think the Leeds player is 'Alioski'. ;)
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Relax , we’re pissing it 😂😂
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The conclusion to the first half is that when the team was announced none of us saw this happening. So that’s the positive. The defence naturally looks uncertain and Leeds know that. And if they score they will have massive confidence in getting something from the game. We need to get back on the front foot or at minimum score a third on the break.
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Feel like we need a third, but I'm really happy with that!
Still so annoyed that SKY are dubbing fake crowd noise over this game.
Is there any particular reason they’re doing that?
Leeds fans have been vocal in previous games, singing "SKY TV are fucking shit" due to so many games being moved. It started before we scored and they started dubbing noise straight over and just carried it on. You can barely hear the actual crowd noise.
It happened in the Derby v Forest game the other night too.
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Feel like we need a third, but I'm really happy with that!
Still so annoyed that SKY are dubbing fake crowd noise over this game.
Is there any particular reason they’re doing that?
Apparently Forest and Derby fans were singing songs in protest about Sky the other night.
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Win it Villa.
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Nyland kicking it long every time, I guess this is to counter the high press, the problem is we are giving the ball back to them a lot.
They have had plenty of chances to score including a decent penalty shout.
Hutton a liability, we definitely need another goal to win this.
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Sky Sports has responded to allegations they deliberately covered up an obscene chant because it was aimed at them during Derby County's home clash against arch-rivals Nottingham Forest last night.
Thousands of supporters at Pride Park Stadium decided to vent their fury against Sky Sports' decision to move the much-anticipated fixture to a Monday night by chanting "Sky TV is ******* ****."
A clip of the chant has gone viral on social media. To the bemusement of many, the chant suddenly stops and is replaced with "generic" crowd noise - leading to claims Sky acted fast to prevent viewers hearing the chant.
Sky has confirmed to Derbyshire Live it did edit the chant out of its live coverage, moments after it begun. However, the broadcaster said the decision had nothing to do with the chant being aimed at them and was solely down to the language used in the chant.
A spokesman added Sky, like all broadcasters, have a responsibility to ensure coverage is compliant with Ofcom rules regarding offensive language.
The spokesman also said another foul-mouthed chant during the game which sang out "your support is f****** s***" was also dampened down in the same way and that if bad language was broadcast at full volume it would undoubtedly lead to complaints from viewers.
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Fucking ballboy leaping like Lev Yashin to catch the ball. We are two nil up sit the fuck down!
Pretty impressive though. He clearly thinks he has the chance of a game.
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Hutton could have conceded a pen and has lost his man several times including the one where they should have scored. Terrible defender.
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Fucking ballboy leaping like Lev Yashin to catch the ball. We are two nil up sit the fuck down!
Pretty impressive though. He clearly thinks he has the chance of a game.
I think he has to be registered first
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Not afraid of playing kids is Bielsa. 18 yr old kid now on for a 22 year old
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Bolasie might have done better there. Corner
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decent start to the second half
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Leeds are battering is 0-2 must be so frustrating for them. What a shame.
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Ooh Kodjia close
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That was fucking sex from Bolasie.
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Outrageous skill by Bolasie. Like El Ghazi vs Albion
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Sexy football down the Villa!
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Dirty Leeds by name...
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That was fucking sex from Bolasie.
But really good sex. With a woman...
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He deserved a booking for that challenge on Tammy Abraham.
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That was fucking sex from Bolasie.
But really good sex. With a woman...
What's that like?
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Watched him waltz through the defence. Come on Villa hold on, here.
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His first start and they've already drilled the basics of dirty c**tishness into the lad.
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15 year old boy scores against us
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Fuck me.
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I had already said "shit"! out loud just as he was pulling the trigger.
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That was fucking atrocious by Elmo, awful.
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SHITE!
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Bree too slow - fuck
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Fucking awful defending.
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way to easy
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Damn it. Come on villa.
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Elmohamady is rubbish
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Time for wine
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Chester should have stepped up to block that.
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Last week Elmo got done and gave away a penalty. Today he’s skinned alive by an 18 year old and let’s him score.
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Bollocks beeded that 3rd
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Need change setup
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We will concede again here.
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We will need to score 4 at this point to get a win
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Awful defensively but he took it well.
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Elmo is having a nightmare now. We need to change something.
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That was fucking sex from Bolasie.
But really good sex. With a woman...
What's that like?
Swiss Tony would say that sex with a woman is rather like making love to a beautiful woman.
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Leeds look well energized now. We have keep our shit together here.
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Ffs.
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El Ghazi coming on
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Nyland a spectator.
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Shit
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Fuck me
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Garbage
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Feck
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Defensively we are beyond a fucking disgrace
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Fucking disaster
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FUCK OFF
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We concede at least two goals every fucking week.
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Can't say they don't deserve it. Been coming
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Fuck. Anyone surprised?
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It's like having no keeper at all.
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Our fucking defence and keeper. Woeful.
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Awful defensively but he took it well.
X2.
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And Leeds are a good side. It's bizarre to hear people saying we'll 'smash them' or that horrid phrase, 'they're mince'.
We are doing very well, and if we win this, it'll have been a fucking well earned victory.
Come on Villa!
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Header from a corner
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And I’m sorry Chester is fucking shit too.
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Oh for fucks sake
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We needed that third, that might have just made them fold.
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Bruce has totally fucked us leaving this defence behind. We should sue for reparations.
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Shite. Well there’s 2 more points we’ve given up from a winning position.
Still 30 mins to go as well...
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It’s all feeling very familiar
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Fucking terrible.
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Double bollocks
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Defensively we are beyond a fucking disgrace
Imagine how much our attackers must hate them. Work their balls off all game, put them on the back foot after half time and as soon as they get a few attacks together we go to absolute shit.
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We are defensively so fucking naive
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Got away with that.
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I've criticised Nyland plenty but I don't he had a chance with either.
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Shocking defending for both goals.
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Gonna need 2 more goals to get a draw
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Their third is coming soon. Nyland saves us
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The SKY commentator is is practically cheering Leeds on.
We got lucky with that handball.
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Fucking defend.
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Whole back 5 are abysmal
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Tgat was a pen
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We just got away with a handball from that div Whelan
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Can't get hold of the ball at the minute.
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Whelan really is a pointless liability
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Whelan handball should have been a penalty
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Obligatory goal from the shithouse Janssen: check.
At least Bampot is nowhere to be seen.
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There is no way we’re winning this now.
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Fucking wake up Villa.
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Should have been a Leeds pen, for the second time we've been lucky thanks to crap officials.
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Whole back 5 are abysmal
Whelan our only functioning defensive player.
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Bruce has totally fucked us leaving this defence behind. We should sue for reparations.
This is true but shouldn't we be allowed to expect some level of improvement (defensively, I hasten to point out) under the new coaching-team? It's comedy defending every fucking game.
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Come on Villa.
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We've fallen apart after a good start to the second half.
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Lost all momentum
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Whelan really is a pointless liability
I see no value in him at all. He’s a useless plodder well past his time.
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God Hutton is fucking mince
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Shit defending again.
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Bruce has totally fucked us leaving this defence behind. We should sue for reparations.
This is true but shouldn't we be allowed to expect some level of improvement (defensively, I hasten to point out) under the new coaching-team? It's comedy defending every fucking game.
If we had any depth in our available defenders - which we don't
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We are so brittle at the back and the sooner Nyland fucks off the better
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Comedy gold.
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This is reminding me of the dark days of a Lambert when you just felt the opposition would score from every attack.
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We are still more than capable of winning this if we get our arses in gear. Heads have dropped since their opening goal.
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This is really painful to watch. The defence there are no more negative adjectives I can think of this season.
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Why the ferk is Hutton picking up the Leeds viking at every setpiece...Surely Chester would be more competitive
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Whelan really is a pointless liability
I see no value in him at all. He’s a useless plodder well past his time.
He's actually played well first half today protecting our brittle defence.
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After you Claude defenders and a quivering jelly in goal
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This is the best back 5 we can put out for this game, and that is 100% down to spud head, against any side it's a crap back 5 never mind against a decent side.
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Chester as our best available defender is doing the precise opposite of stepping up here.
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Whelan really is a pointless liability
I see no value in him at all. He’s a useless plodder well past his time.
He's actually played well first half today protecting our brittle defence.
Agree. He’s been one of our better players, aside from the blatant handball.
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We've got a new keeper coming in who looks fairly scary, as opposed to the shitting puppy we currently have between the sticks.
With any luck we'll get a centre half and a full back, and then we get promoted. No worries.
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They seem to have extra players in the last few minutes.
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Axel has broken his metatarsal.
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I feel sick.
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They appear to have 3 extra players.
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Whelan really is a pointless liability
I see no value in him at all. He’s a useless plodder well past his time.
He's actually played well first half today protecting our brittle defence.
I’ll be ecstatic when his contract expires
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Hourihane and Whelan together is not a good combination. We are carrying at least four players.
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Barney.
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Fucking hell. That third Leed goal is minutes away
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Indeed. He's the sort of player managers like Bruce wank over. Limited.
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Not a corner...off his face
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What on earth is Terry doing on our management team? Defensive coach? I'm not impressed so far
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Axel has broken his metatarsal.
Fuck! Bad news
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That was never a fucking corner.
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Thor coming on for Whelan I hope
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What on earth is Terry doing on our management team? Defensive coach? I'm not impressed so far
He can only do his best with what is there for g.ds sake
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We could still nick this.
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What on earth is Terry doing on our management team? Defensive coach? I'm not impressed so far
What’s he got to work with?
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What on earth is Terry doing on our management team? Defensive coach? I'm not impressed so far
I don’t blame terry I blame the fat thick ****** that left him with no defenders to coach.
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We don't look like we have the energy to raise our game.
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Be nice if we just got a jammy win, for once.
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I's great that we've spent the last few months trying to get that injury wreck (and all-round shithouse) James Collins up to speed when we could have allocated that time to someone slightly less unreliable.
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Whelan has been pretty good this game.
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That was never a fucking corner.
Roofe should've been booked for throwing his bottle when he was made to leave the pitch as well. Only a small thing but they're the sort of reactions they're supposed to be dealing with.
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Three points Villa. Come on!
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Left foot. FFS
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Be nice if we just got a jammy win, for once.
We used up all our luck at the start of the season. Do you not recall Wigan, Brentford and Blackburn to name three?
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What was that Bolasie?
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Be nice if we just got a jammy win, for once.
Wouldn't it. Bit of magic from someone would be perfect
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Bolassi?????
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1) they aren't all that good 2) continually make stupid individual errors and 3) collectively shit themselves and fall apart, it's hard to coach that out of them no matter how good a good someone may be.
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Terrible Yannick.
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Of the defenders plus keeper on the pitch today consider that our captain and arguably best of the 4 is one of our weakest links and culprit to numerous errors this season, you can see the trouble we are in.
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I'm just praying we can somehow cling on for a point here.
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Hutton fucking hell.
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I’m assuming this commentator will be using his season ticket to gain access to the reverse fixture
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Ref is shocking.
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Apart from the goal, Hourihane has been poor.
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I don't blame Leeds for not kicking it out, McGinn was straight up as soon as it went out.
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"10 titles between these two" how about mentioning 7 of them are ours.
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Is this an inappropriate moment to remind everyone what a twat Steve Bruce is?
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Niggly little shit Alioski.
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About time that twat got booked.
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Is this an inappropriate moment to remind everyone what a twat Steve Bruce is?
Was thinking the same thing at half. We haven’t been perfect but we’ve been exponentially better since his departure.. with the same crop of talent. Did he “right the ship”? Sure.. but nothing more than that.
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The rebuild for an assault on promotion starts in January .......unfortunately not for his season I fear - shame but the defence needs a complete overhaul -
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"10 titles between these two" how about mentioning 7 of them are ours.
It's like saying we "shared" six goals with SHA the other week.
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Clyde and Celtic have won the league 49 times between them.
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El ghazi crap again.
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El ghazi crap again.
And again.
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At this point I’m actually reassured with what Purslow said. We’re in no rush to go up. We have numerous defensive issues to address and right now I would like to see us fix those. We have all the firepower needed to dominate this division, but a bottom half defence. If we get in the playoffs - great. If not, with Leeds likely going up with Norwich and maybe Albion, the three sides coming down possibly Fulham, Huddersfield and Cardiff, there is no reason with 2 windows and a full pre season why we won’t walk it next season.
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"10 titles between these two" how about mentioning 7 of them are ours.
It's like saying we "shared" six goals with SHA the other week.
Or us and sha have 7 FA cups between us.
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What is the point of Hogan? Would rather have bought Davis on.
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"10 titles between these two" how about mentioning 7 of them are ours.
It's like saying we "shared" six goals with SHA the other week.
Or us and sha have 7 FA cups between us.
We also share a European Cup. Their Rothman’s guide said so.
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Playoffs, you’re having a laugh.
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What a piss poor excuse for a footballer Bjarnason is. Fucking wank.
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These commonpotatoes are a joke.
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All three subs have been shit since coming on.
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He’s been bad - but at least he has the excuse of being rusty unlike the rest.
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We're not scoring again in this game. :-(
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Fucking piss poor defending. That's any lingering chance of automatic promotion gone.
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Fuck off!
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Pathetic today.
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Ffs
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Deserved. Completely deserved. A fucking disgraceful performance, all the worse because we threw it away with a lack of bottle as well as ability.
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Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
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What a piss poor excuse for a footballer Bjarnason is. Fucking wank.
We have a few of those my friend. What a fucking shit header for their third. Absolute comedy of errors throughout. Get rid of the whole defence and start again. Including Chester.
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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Bugger
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Well that’s somes it up, fucking embarrassing.
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Is our defence for real?
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You utter, utter piece of useless shit Elmo
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Fucking useless
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Awful, defending that a non league player would be ashamed of.
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It’s like the Lambert days all over again
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Elmo you utter, utter twat.
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Fucking pile of shit.
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That's really fucking shit from Elmo, as poor as it gets from a defender.
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Our defence is league 2 standard..
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We've got so much work to do to get out of this division.
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Shit arse
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As I said, no amount of coaching can stop a player being that fucking shit and stupid.
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Elmohamady. A fucking rubbish player.
Second half has been painful.
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And Steve Bruce can fuck off again for signing so many shit players
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Two goals he’s given away today and one vs Stoke. Fucking useless tosser of a defender.
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FT. Grr!
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12th? Does the table really lie? Leeds were far better than us. Smith needs time to rebuild the side. carrying so many players at the moment.
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No amount of attacking and goals can counter how utterly bollocks we are at the back. Nyland, Elmo, Chester, Hutton you can all fuck off
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A team assembled by a previous manager who was a defender and now managed and coached by two former defenders and we can't defend.
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Villa ALWAYS ruin Christmas.
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I would play the under 21 defence, surely better organised than this... unreal
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Fucking useless ..........
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That’s because we only have 2 decent defenders at the club and one has a broken foot.
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Villa ALWAYS ruin Christmas.
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