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Title: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: mike on December 06, 2018, 10:31:31 AM
I'm thinking of taking my 7 year old to this match. Knowing Stoke are sort of local and their fans can can be a bit rowdy also, what is the atmosphere like at these games?
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Ad@m on December 06, 2018, 10:47:48 AM
You'll be fine.

There's only ever really any trouble these days when the Noses are in town.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Dave P on December 06, 2018, 11:04:46 AM
Yeah, you'll be fine.  I'm taking my 6 and 5 year old kids.  Be sure to go to the old stumps building by the North Stand from 1pm as they have the Family Fun Day which is excellent for kids and all free.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: themossman on December 06, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
I’m taking my (just) 8 year old to this and it will be her first game. Go for it!
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Post by: TaxDodger on December 06, 2018, 11:23:52 AM
Providing they like Tom Jones, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: mike on December 06, 2018, 11:31:13 AM
Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 06, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Didn't they cause havoc at Port Vale earlier this week?
 Local Derby, so I suppose " it's not unusual"
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Chipsticks on December 06, 2018, 12:12:04 PM
I'm thinking of taking my 7 year old to this match. Knowing Stoke are sort of local and their fans can can be a bit rowdy also, what is the atmosphere like at these games?

Agree with others that it'll be absolutely fine, even Albion aren't really any trouble.

I used to go in the North Stand upper when I went as a kid, loved being able to see the sight of the away fans and Holte End in full view.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: mike on December 06, 2018, 12:37:37 PM
I'm thinking of taking my 7 year old to this match. Knowing Stoke are sort of local and their fans can can be a bit rowdy also, what is the atmosphere like at these games?

Agree with others that it'll be absolutely fine, even Albion aren't really any trouble.

I used to go in the North Stand upper when I went as a kid, loved being able to see the sight of the away fans and Holte End in full view.

When I was able to go more regularly, I always went in the Holte End. The first time I sat in the Trinity and saw a full Holte End it brought a lump to my throat.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Villa Lew on December 06, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Following the shocking events seen at Port Vale on Tuesday, there could well be an increased police presence for this match.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Chris Smith on December 06, 2018, 02:34:44 PM
Following the shocking events seen at Port Vale on Tuesday, there could well be an increased police presence for this match.

That was a local derby between clubs that haven’t played each other in a while. I doubt it will have much bearing on what happens at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: mike on December 06, 2018, 02:43:37 PM
The only place I can get two tickets together is the North Stand. I've never been there, in fact I still think of it as the away end. I've heard it is a bit of a dump. Is that right? I might wait to see if the Upper Trinity opens (which I'm sure it will if we beat West Brom).
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 06, 2018, 02:46:24 PM
The only place I can get two tickets together is the North Stand. I've never been there, in fact I still think of it as the away end. I've heard it is a bit of a dump. Is that right? I might wait to see if the Upper Trinity opens (which I'm sure it will if we beat West Brom).

The Lower is strictly home. You’ll be fine in the upper. If you’re tall it’s a bit tight, but your kid will be fine. Nothing at Villa Park is a dump. The stand is certainly dated and it will be replaced in time.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Ad@m on December 06, 2018, 02:46:31 PM
Following the shocking events seen at Port Vale on Tuesday, there could well be an increased police presence for this match.

That was a local derby between clubs that haven’t played each other in a while. I doubt it will have much bearing on what happens at Villa Park.

Agreed.

Tuesday was a bunch of idiots who're probably too young to have seen Stoke play their local rival before, being hell bent on trying to destroy their rivals ground.

They won't give two hoots about us in that respect.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: XXVilla on December 06, 2018, 02:52:40 PM
You’ll all be absolutely fine
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: john e on December 06, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
the local derbies where the support is mainly made up of local people ie within say 50 miles are the ones where trouble is a possibility

it’s not the big Sky games between the Manchester clubs Liverpool Spurs Chelsea etc its at games like ours against Blues where the policing is now so tight you dont see an away supporter apart from inside the ground

Stoke v port vale
Watford v Luton
Blackburn v Burnley
Mansfield v Chesterfield
Milwall v West Ham
Portsmouth v Southampton
Northampton v Peterborough
Bristol c v Bristol r

are the types of games where trouble can flare, they are not always big games with large attendances

Villa v Stoke will be absolutely fine
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: olaftab on December 06, 2018, 03:38:36 PM
I expect Stoke fans to be very upset at the end of the match and disappear away quietly.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 06, 2018, 09:30:25 PM
Can't remember any trouble in the Premier league meetings.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: tomd2103 on December 06, 2018, 09:35:47 PM
I remember we played them at home around Christmas in the Premier League a few years  and they brought a really small following.  Never really seen any trouble with them. 
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Ad@m on December 06, 2018, 09:49:54 PM
As an aside, Blues are a different kettle of fish. Stoke fans have had some proper tear ups with them over the years.

It wouldn't surprise me if that got ugly on Boxing Day.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: VillaLoyal on December 06, 2018, 10:12:19 PM
Can't remember any trouble in the Premier league meetings.

I know a few Stoke. They used to have ID cards (a bit like you need if you want to travel with England away "officially"). They introduced these in the 2000`s when they had a massive problem.

I think they ditched the ID cards a while ago so its easier to get tickets now.

I am sure after the Vale match the police will be on top of it..


Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Legion on December 06, 2018, 10:16:37 PM
First compendium paper issue on sale for this match. Buy from me. I need the commission. Or at least come and say hello to one of us at our semi-regular selling spots. We're all friendly. Even Dave. No hooligans. Well apart from.... Only £2.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 06, 2018, 10:20:14 PM
First compendium paper issue on sale for this match. Buy from me. I need the commission. Or at least come and say hello to one of us at our semi-regular selling spots. We're all friendly. Even Dave. No hooligans. Well apart from.... Only £2.

Thanks for telling me.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Legion on December 06, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
My pleasure, Boss.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: olaftab on December 06, 2018, 10:41:01 PM
Stand under the tree and my life savings will be handed over to you without hesitation.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Legion on December 06, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
I assume I'll be there.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Legion on December 06, 2018, 10:55:33 PM
£2.33 will make my day.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 07, 2018, 07:49:18 PM
Can't remember any trouble in the Premier league meetings.

I know a few Stoke. They used to have ID cards (a bit like you need if you want to travel with England away "officially"). They introduced these in the 2000`s when they had a massive problem.

I think they ditched the ID cards a while ago so its easier to get tickets now.

I am sure after the Vale match the police will be on top of it..




Yeah I lived up there for a few years and there was pockets of trouble even in some premier league games (against West Ham usually) but can't remember much in our meetings back then.

They did take a few small followings to VP as don't think they were happy paying 40 quid or near enough that. I think with lower prices now they'll sell out their 2.6k.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 08, 2018, 09:10:04 PM
Can't remember the last time there was fighting inside or outside the ground at Villa. The police have it all sorted. Shame they are so incompetent when in charge of matches at other stadia in the area.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Ads on December 10, 2018, 10:13:34 AM
Yeah you'll be fine. We'll have a good 70% plus of the ball, so you'll only have to avert your kids eyes from the horror show that is Rowett ball for a few minutes of the match.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Damo70 on December 10, 2018, 12:33:59 PM
The first time I went to Stoke's old Victoria Ground was October 1987. I understand we drew 0-0 but it might have been 5-5 for all I knew. I recall we were housed in what was basically a trench along one side of the pitch, some of which appeared to be below pitch level. It was absolutely the worst view I have ever had at a match.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 10, 2018, 12:39:45 PM
You'll all be fine. Just bring an extra £2 each.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 10, 2018, 01:08:39 PM
The first time I went to Stoke's old Victoria Ground was October 1987. I understand we drew 0-0 but it might have been 5-5 for all I knew. I recall we were housed in what was basically a trench along one side of the pitch, some of which appeared to be below pitch level. It was absolutely the worst view I have ever had at a match.
I was at that - being packed like sardines would have been more spacious.  We took about 6000 to that match.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: PeterWithe on December 10, 2018, 01:11:46 PM
The first time I went to Stoke's old Victoria Ground was October 1987. I understand we drew 0-0 but it might have been 5-5 for all I knew. I recall we were housed in what was basically a trench along one side of the pitch, some of which appeared to be below pitch level. It was absolutely the worst view I have ever had at a match.

I was also there and have probably posted before that I saw the ball a grand total of three times.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: UK Redsox on December 10, 2018, 02:58:50 PM
Stoke at home is safe enough. However, Stoke away can be dangerous if you have Legion in your car  ;)
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Legion on December 10, 2018, 02:59:59 PM
Even I can't be blamed for your multiple car park mishaps.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 10, 2018, 03:06:59 PM
Stoke at home is safe enough. However, leaving the house can be dangerous if you have Legion in your car  ;)

Fixed.
Title: Re: Will Stoke Game be OK for Kids?
Post by: Nev on December 10, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
The first time I went to Stoke's old Victoria Ground was October 1987. I understand we drew 0-0 but it might have been 5-5 for all I knew. I recall we were housed in what was basically a trench along one side of the pitch, some of which appeared to be below pitch level. It was absolutely the worst view I have ever had at a match.

I was also there and have probably posted before that I saw the ball a grand total of three times.

I stood alongside Damo. I said stood but the crowd seemed to be in a state of perpetual motion, and the sun was shining directly in our eyes.
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