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Title: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: davidb on November 05, 2018, 01:03:07 PM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-exposed-bending-the-rules-to-the-tune-of-millions-a-1236346.html

for those worried over FFP
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 05, 2018, 01:20:53 PM
This really does throw the FFP regime into disrepute. Not that anybody considered the use of the word “Fair” appropriate.
How the hell could they sanction another club if they allow this to go unsanctioned ?
The implications for the professional game are massive particularly in light of the discussions concerning a breakaway Super League.
The geni is out of the bottle.

Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: martin o`who?? on November 05, 2018, 01:52:19 PM
Well we all knew it was going on but it is just another reason to resent their success - a success they bought without any restraint at all it would seem.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Duncan Shaw on November 05, 2018, 02:58:23 PM
I know it was written in German and translated, but there's a real snideyness to that article I reckon, like it was written by a Manure fan.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Simon Page on November 05, 2018, 03:03:53 PM
Try a Bayern one.

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This is exactly what Bayern Munich President Uli Hoeness means when he complains that Abu Dhabi only has to open up the oil spigots to be able to afford expensive players.

Hard to feel sorry for the United of Bavaria, but aside from that well done a sports desk for having the balls and desire to shine a light on this.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Drummond on November 05, 2018, 03:13:58 PM
Try a Bayern one.

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This is exactly what Bayern Munich President Uli Hoeness means when he complains that Abu Dhabi only has to open up the oil spigots to be able to afford expensive players.

Hard to feel sorry for the United of Bavaria, but aside from that well done a sports desk for having the balls and desire to shine a light on this.

Absolutely. Interesting read and looks like it involves many more people. I guess Infantino won't come out of this well on Thursday...
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Damo70 on November 05, 2018, 05:29:35 PM
Try a Bayern one.

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This is exactly what Bayern Munich President Uli Hoeness means when he complains that Abu Dhabi only has to open up the oil spigots to be able to afford expensive players.

Hard to feel sorry for the United of Bavaria, but aside from that well done a sports desk for having the balls and desire to shine a light on this.

Absolutely. Interesting read and looks like it involves many more people. I guess Infantino won't come out of this well on Thursday...


I have absolute faith in Infantino and FIFA conducting a transparent investigation and rule revue and putting right any wrongs by way of effective punishments and rule tightening.

Now time for me to go and take some more crack cocaine.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Pvb1968 on November 05, 2018, 08:14:28 PM
Be absolutely sure of one thing, man utd will not be left out of playing in the champions league, neither will Chelsea, arsenal, man city and Liverpool. They will invite teams into the competition and from that point it will be cemented thus avoiding a break away league.
I know man city have lots of money but they are still the gatecrasher and still have a humility amongst players and fans who remember when they were nothing. I've met a lot of man city fans over the years and could hold a proper conversation with all of them.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: The Edge on November 05, 2018, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: davidb link=topic=59111.msg3508964#msg3508964 5date=1541422987
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-exposed-bending-the-rules-to-the-tune-of-millions-a-1236346.html

for those worried over FFP
That's a brilliant article. And you just know the football authorities will do diddly squat about it.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 05, 2018, 09:45:07 PM
Quote from: davidb link=topic=59111.msg3508964#msg3508964 5date=1541422987
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-exposed-bending-the-rules-to-the-tune-of-millions-a-1236346.html

for those worried over FFP
That's a brilliant article. And you just know the football authorities will do diddly squat about it.

They are going to have a hell of a problem enforcing FFP if they don’t.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Hillbilly on November 05, 2018, 10:04:39 PM
This really does throw the FFP regime into disrepute. Not that anybody considered the use of the word “Fair” appropriate.
How the hell could they sanction another club if they allow this to go unsanctioned ?
The implications for the professional game are massive particularly in light of the discussions concerning a breakaway Super League.
The geni is out of the bottle.


Another way to look at it is; they’ve let Real Madrid get away with it for years, why start now?
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: London Villan on November 05, 2018, 10:09:05 PM
Thing is, it’s hardly a scoop. This has been obvious for years.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 05, 2018, 11:03:43 PM
 I think the difference here is that there would appear to be hard evidence.

Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 05, 2018, 11:09:04 PM
Quote from: davidb link=topic=59111.msg3508964#msg3508964 5date=1541422987
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-exposed-bending-the-rules-to-the-tune-of-millions-a-1236346.html

for those worried over FFP
That's a brilliant article. And you just know the football authorities will do diddly squat about it.

Yup. They'll just ignore it.

The absolute wank biscuits.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Des Little on November 05, 2018, 11:17:06 PM
Anyone trying to enforce the ‘rules’ will simply be bought. That’s it.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: darren woolley on November 06, 2018, 09:16:47 AM
That's a lot of money but I bet Dave Woodhall's got more under his bed lol.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 06, 2018, 10:30:58 AM
That's a lot of money but I bet Dave Woodhall's got more under his bed lol.

Inference appears to be this website has for too long been run with a corner shop mentality and still needs dragging kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: GarTomas on November 06, 2018, 10:58:02 AM
Anyone have an English link to the 2nd article?
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: darren woolley on November 06, 2018, 12:13:56 PM
That's a lot of money but I bet Dave Woodhall's got more under his bed lol.

Inference appears to be this website has for too long been run with a corner shop mentality and still needs dragging kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
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That's a lot of money but I bet Dave Woodhall's got more under his bed lol.

Inference appears to be this website has for too long been run with a corner shop mentality and still needs dragging kicking and screaming into the 21st century.



Not in a million years Andy I wass just Joking if you know me you would know I like a joke I meant no harm and Dave would agree this is the best site in the world and I would never disrespect anyone or anything about it.

Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: davidb on November 06, 2018, 01:58:10 PM
Anyone have an English link to the 2nd article?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-and-the-fight-against-financial-fairplay-a-1236347.html
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: The Edge on November 06, 2018, 03:11:42 PM
Anyone trying to enforce the ‘rules’ will simply be bought. That’s it.
100% correct. Those greedy corrupt bastards are ruining our game
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: GarTomas on November 06, 2018, 08:07:06 PM
Anyone have an English link to the 2nd article?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-and-the-fight-against-financial-fairplay-a-1236347.html

Cheers couldn’t figure it out on my mobile!
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: The Edge on November 06, 2018, 08:24:46 PM
Anyone have an English link to the 2nd article?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-and-the-fight-against-financial-fairplay-a-1236347.html
Thanks pal. Quite staggering really.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: Duncan Shaw on November 07, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
It's getting more exposure as well now...appearing on the Beeb with la Liga commenting.  If they continue to brush this under the carpet I suspect there will be a legal challenge to FFP in the European Court, which may be a good outcome for us with our new guys on board!
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: davidb on November 07, 2018, 12:19:09 PM
Anyone have an English link to the 2nd article?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-and-the-fight-against-financial-fairplay-a-1236347.html
no worries, got our intern to sort it. Tells me the internet is going to be a big thing

Cheers couldn’t figure it out on my mobile!
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: clash city rocker on November 11, 2018, 12:55:58 PM
I don't know if anyone in the parish can explain just how this FFP lark works ?  If you spend or lose too much money you get fined. So doesn't that make the situation even worse as the following season you will lose even more money because of the fine. Surely it would be like ever decreasing circles.
Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 23, 2018, 10:39:32 AM
Talking of FFP....

£9m more shares issued.

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Title: Re: Man city/Der Spiegel
Post by: jwarry on November 23, 2018, 03:19:13 PM
I see Der Spiegel have had a pop at Wolves again according to The Times this morning, and EFL threatening to have another look after putting them in the clear a few months ago
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