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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 12:09:31 PM

Title: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 12:09:31 PM
Dear All,

Sorry to come on here, not here to discuss or gloat about the result.

Anyone that went on Saturday, was there any police drug sniffer dogs inside the the ground to greet you? This means the concourse side of the turnstiles, where you were funneled through by stewards to walk past the dogs. 

Ignoring the first sentence, met a couple of Villa on the train back to London Bridge, decent blokes interesting chat and perspective on the game and the players. For what its worth you've get some proper decent players in that team.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: Three Spires Villa on October 08, 2018, 01:37:03 PM
No, didn't see any police dogs, however I was in the ground at 1.30
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: Ads on October 08, 2018, 01:44:48 PM
Got the 14:44 out of London Bridge and no dogs then either at 5 to 3.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: brian green on October 08, 2018, 01:45:54 PM
I think the two decent Villa fans were me and my son.  The fact that I had been threatened with arrest by the Old Bill for shouting at the police made me acceptable. 
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 01:56:25 PM
Thanks for that.

A lot of the home support are a bit pissed off with MET (yet again) at having this put upon us.  I could really bore you with the continuous and ongoing restrictions, friction and confrontation that is life of a Millwall supporter, not looking for sympathy here, its just how it is.   And some would say you reap what you sow.

Cheers
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 02:09:13 PM
I think the two decent Villa fans were me and my son.  The fact that I had been threatened with arrest by the Old Bill for shouting at the police made me acceptable.

Ha. They love an easy nick.

Amongst a range of many other things they have started to let the away support out to South Bermz station first, through the designated walkway (cowards walk has it is known to us)  thus holding back the home support. Not sure this happened on Saturday, however I ran out on the final whistle to beat this tactic and managed to get the 5:05.

There is a special relationship between us and London's finest which is too long to go into here and not really of interest to Villa support.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on October 08, 2018, 02:19:51 PM
I think the two decent Villa fans were me and my son.  The fact that I had been threatened with arrest by the Old Bill for shouting at the police made me acceptable.

Ha. They love an easy nick.

Amongst a range of many other things they have started to let the away support out to South Bermz station first, through the designated walkway (cowards walk has it is known to us)  thus holding back the home support. Not sure this happened on Saturday, however I ran out on the final whistle to beat this tactic and managed to get the 5:05.

There is a special relationship between us and London's finest which is too long to go into here and not really of interest to Villa support.


I for one would love to hear it.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 08, 2018, 05:28:11 PM
I’m in.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: Ads on October 08, 2018, 06:06:31 PM
Thanks for that.

A lot of the home support are a bit pissed off with MET (yet again) at having this put upon us.  I could really bore you with the continuous and ongoing restrictions, friction and confrontation that is life of a Millwall supporter, not looking for sympathy here, its just how it is.   And some would say you reap what you sow.

Cheers

We have seen it at most games this season and last. Sniffing for pyro I'd imagine.

Bizarrely Millwall was one of the lighter police presences we've had this season.

And I can confirm we were held back in the pissing rain for the train. You couldn't get out the other way either.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 08, 2018, 08:23:47 PM
Have Millwall sorted the stuff regarding the future of the Den yet?
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 09:25:50 PM
Thanks for that.

A lot of the home support are a bit pissed off with MET (yet again) at having this put upon us.  I could really bore you with the continuous and ongoing restrictions, friction and confrontation that is life of a Millwall supporter, not looking for sympathy here, its just how it is.   And some would say you reap what you sow.

Cheers

We have seen it at most games this season and last. Sniffing for pyro I'd imagine.

Bizarrely Millwall was one of the lighter police presences we've had this season.

And I can confirm we were held back in the pissing rain for the train. You couldn't get out the other way either.

Generally the police presence for away support is fairly light, the Den is one of the safest grounds in the country. Very rarely any trouble, and first stop out of there is London Bridge probably more cameras and OB per sq ft than anywhere else in the country.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 09:32:13 PM
Have Millwall sorted the stuff regarding the future of the Den yet?

Of a fashion, the club were abject in their response at the time, it was more the supporters digging up dirt on Lewisham Council followed by the Guardian newspaper. Once the press got their teeth into it the developers and the corrupt council had to back off.

Don't trust any of them though.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 08, 2018, 09:36:33 PM
I couldn't believe how many coppers lined the walk from the station.And horses.Thought I was going to a royal wedding.
Great day bar the match.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 09:56:41 PM
I think the two decent Villa fans were me and my son.  The fact that I had been threatened with arrest by the Old Bill for shouting at the police made me acceptable.

Ha. They love an easy nick.

Amongst a range of many other things they have started to let the away support out to South Bermz station first, through the designated walkway (cowards walk has it is known to us)  thus holding back the home support. Not sure this happened on Saturday, however I ran out on the final whistle to beat this tactic and managed to get the 5:05.

There is a special relationship between us and London's finest which is too long to go into here and not really of interest to Villa support.


I for one would love to hear it.

I can post something, 1200+ words may be a bit long?
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 08, 2018, 10:05:54 PM
I couldn't believe how many coppers lined the walk from the station.And horses.Thought I was going to a royal wedding.
Great day bar the match.

TBH Millwall away should be decent day out, London Bridge is a great location these days (apart from cost) with plenty of boozers, places to eat and just the general vibe of the area. Better than lots clubs/grounds that are located in and around out of town shopping centres.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: darren woolley on October 09, 2018, 09:08:03 AM
I couldn't believe how many coppers lined the walk from the station.And horses.Thought I was going to a royal wedding.
Great day bar the match.

Apart from the result we had a good day nice to meet you on Saturday.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: darren woolley on October 09, 2018, 09:18:31 AM
I couldn't believe how many coppers lined the walk from the station.And horses.Thought I was going to a royal wedding.
Great day bar the match.

TBH Millwall away should be decent day out, London Bridge is a great location these days (apart from cost) with plenty of boozers, places to eat and just the general vibe of the area. Better than lots clubs/grounds that are located in and around out of town shopping centres.

I must admit I enjoy going to away games I've been to the The New Den twice although I've never seen us win there you are right London Wall good drinking in London Bridge area.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: auntiesledd on October 09, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
Thanks for that.

A lot of the home support are a bit pissed off with MET (yet again) at having this put upon us.  I could really bore you with the continuous and ongoing restrictions, friction and confrontation that is life of a Millwall supporter, not looking for sympathy here, its just how it is.   And some would say you reap what you sow.

Cheers

We have seen it at most games this season and last. Sniffing for pyro I'd imagine.

Bizarrely Millwall was one of the lighter police presences we've had this season.

And I can confirm we were held back in the pissing rain for the train. You couldn't get out the other way either.

My immediate thought was that they're after supporters carrying Toot into the ground, but I'm sure the sniffer dogs could multi-task with a spot of pyro detection too.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 09, 2018, 12:48:59 PM
I couldn't believe how many coppers lined the walk from the station.And horses.Thought I was going to a royal wedding.
Great day bar the match.

Apart from the result we had a good day nice to meet you on Saturday.
Nice to meet you too,Darren!
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: London Wall on October 09, 2018, 03:07:21 PM
Thanks for that.

A lot of the home support are a bit pissed off with MET (yet again) at having this put upon us.  I could really bore you with the continuous and ongoing restrictions, friction and confrontation that is life of a Millwall supporter, not looking for sympathy here, its just how it is.   And some would say you reap what you sow.

Cheers

We have seen it at most games this season and last. Sniffing for pyro I'd imagine.

Bizarrely Millwall was one of the lighter police presences we've had this season.

And I can confirm we were held back in the pissing rain for the train. You couldn't get out the other way either.

My immediate thought was that they're after supporters carrying Toot into the ground, but I'm sure the sniffer dogs could multi-task with a spot of pyro detection too.

It was drug sniffer dogs, the general response from the home support has been outrage, tantamount to entrapment of paying customers. This doesn't happen at festivals where you have the opportunity to bin the drugs, or some night clubs that offer the facility to test your drugs to ensure they are clean.  No, they closed turnstles and funnelled support past a line of dogs.

A view;
Have a beer, have a spliff, buy some packets, do a line, have a fight, get a brass, in fact do whatever the f*ck you like in life. Live-life,  live and let live.

Football fans are second class citizens that get treated like s*it, this is why the whole football fan chip on our shoulder exists, even more so for Millwall as we are always treated worse. 1200 word dissertation ready.

The way this was conducted was wrong, if the club didn't want drugs in the ground, which is fair enough, then they should have said and given warning.  Dogs should have been outside, passively walking through crowds and the away fans should have been included as well. Nothing against you, you understand.

I don't think anyone can legitimately moan about not being able to do something illegal - however if Millwall want to further reduce their support then they are going about the right way.

Rant over.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: Pvb1968 on October 09, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
My father in law speaks very fondly about going to Millwall in the early 60s with Coventry under Jimmy Hill. Apparently there was no grass on the pitch and you couldn't move for burly Dock workers.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on October 09, 2018, 04:25:35 PM
My father in law speaks very fondly about going to Millwall in the early 60s with Coventry under Jimmy Hill. Apparently there was no grass on the pitch and you couldn't move for burly Dock workers.

Sounds like Hurst Street.
Title: Re: Millwall on Saturday
Post by: Pvb1968 on October 09, 2018, 11:39:46 PM
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