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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2018, 10:36:04 PM

Title: Friday Press
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2018, 10:36:04 PM
http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/09/looking-back-in-anger-with-villa/
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 28, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
In answer to your ultimate question - yes.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Villan For Life on September 28, 2018, 10:39:56 PM
One of the 30,000 couldn’t possibly do any worse.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: paul_e on September 28, 2018, 10:44:49 PM
That's the biggest thing now, he even admits it himself, if you listen all his "I'm convinced we'll be there or thereabouts bullshit" comes along with comments about the strength of the squad, not about how the training is helping or even that he can see them starting to do things they've been asked to work on, just that they're good players and eventually they'll work it out for themselves.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Drummond on September 28, 2018, 11:55:17 PM
No not one of the 30,000 but someone a tad more qualified please.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 28, 2018, 11:59:11 PM
He really does want his cards though judging by tonight’s comments.  I mean expecting them to beat Bristol 3 or 4 nil has long since gone from our thoughts as an ambition steve.  Maybe a win nowadays?  With the occasional semblance of organisation?  You know something that pertains to evidence that we do actually work on a plan for the opposition?
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Nev on September 29, 2018, 07:37:53 AM
Two years go it was Preston that did for RDM. We face the same opposition on Tuesday and a similar performance is more than likely.
The fact that we are no further forward should be to the managers shame but his recent comments would indicate that he couldn't care less.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 29, 2018, 11:14:57 AM
From a squad overflowing with wingers, our beleaguered manager chose none.


sums it up for me .
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: clash city rocker on September 29, 2018, 11:42:37 AM
From a squad overflowing with wingers, our beleaguered manager chose none.


sums it up for me .

I seriously wonder if he has completely lost the plot now.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 29, 2018, 12:32:22 PM
From a squad overflowing with wingers, our beleaguered manager chose none.


sums it up for me .

I seriously wonder if he has completely lost the plot now.
I have been convinced of this, everything from bizarre team selections, rambling post match interviews, mixing up time periods and repetitive cliches.
I think the events of the last year have taken thier toll.
It’s sad in a way but he was never going to be the right man to rebuild this club but he is not even as effective as the Steve Bruce of the past.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: SaddVillan on September 29, 2018, 11:22:31 PM
From a squad overflowing with wingers, our beleaguered manager chose none.


sums it up for me .

I seriously wonder if he has completely lost the plot now.

Lost the plot?

He doesn't have one
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: robbo1874 on September 30, 2018, 05:20:43 AM
Shame. Nice bloke. Thanks for what you’ve done - cheerio
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: brian green on September 30, 2018, 09:26:02 AM
The "niceness" is pure PR.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on September 30, 2018, 09:32:34 AM
The "niceness" is pure PR.
like a footballing equivalent of Princess Diana? :)  Wor Prince of Hearts
Hope Wills isn't on the site this morning
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: darren woolley on October 01, 2018, 12:58:31 PM
Good read Dave.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Clampy on October 01, 2018, 06:55:32 PM
From a squad overflowing with wingers, our beleaguered manager chose none.


sums it up for me .

I seriously wonder if he has completely lost the plot now.
I have been convinced of this, everything from bizarre team selections, rambling post match interviews, mixing up time periods and repetitive cliches.
I think the events of the last year have taken thier toll.
It’s sad in a way but he was never going to be the right man to rebuild this club but he is not even as effective as the Steve Bruce of the past.

I think him getting the sack would top off an absolutely woeful year for him but in the long run, I think we would be doing him a favour.  He could go and play some golf in Portugal for a couple of months, get his head together, maybe do some TV work then decide if he wants another crack at management and we can get on with our aim of getting back up. I don't hold any ill will with the bloke (and I think some of the personal abuse has been unnecessary) but he's had a fair crack and it's time for a change.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Monty on October 01, 2018, 08:11:06 PM
I think some of the personal abuse has been pretty disgraceful, tbh. I get it in the moment during a match, but when the dust has settled to keep going on like that is no good.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: brian green on October 01, 2018, 08:15:59 PM
I think he has got off pretty lightly.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Clampy on October 01, 2018, 08:38:54 PM
I think some of the personal abuse has been pretty disgraceful, tbh. I get it in the moment during a match, but when the dust has settled to keep going on like that is no good.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: brian green on October 01, 2018, 08:41:10 PM
Now there's a surprise.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2018, 08:51:42 PM
The "niceness" is pure PR.

Judging from some of his statements of late, I think he's got us all down as blind idiots. Sometimes a little humility goes a long way.
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: tomd2103 on October 01, 2018, 10:05:44 PM
From a squad overflowing with wingers, our beleaguered manager chose none.


sums it up for me .

I seriously wonder if he has completely lost the plot now.
I have been convinced of this, everything from bizarre team selections, rambling post match interviews, mixing up time periods and repetitive cliches.
I think the events of the last year have taken thier toll.
It’s sad in a way but he was never going to be the right man to rebuild this club but he is not even as effective as the Steve Bruce of the past.

I think him getting the sack would top off an absolutely woeful year for him but in the long run, I think we would be doing him a favour.  He could go and play some golf in Portugal for a couple of months, get his head together, maybe do some TV work then decide if he wants another crack at management and we can get on with our aim of getting back up. I don't hold any ill will with the bloke (and I think some of the personal abuse has been unnecessary) but he's had a fair crack and it's time for a change.

Agree Clampy, though I do feel he has been unnecessarily antagonistic at times towards the fans and this has resulted in increasing hostility towards him from some quarters.  A parting of the ways after the play off final would have probably been best for both parties, but circumstances at the club prevented that happening. 
Title: Re: Friday Press
Post by: Clampy on October 02, 2018, 07:07:31 AM
From a squad overflowing with wingers, our beleaguered manager chose none.


sums it up for me .

I seriously wonder if he has completely lost the plot now.
I have been convinced of this, everything from bizarre team selections, rambling post match interviews, mixing up time periods and repetitive cliches.
I think the events of the last year have taken thier toll.
It’s sad in a way but he was never going to be the right man to rebuild this club but he is not even as effective as the Steve Bruce of the past.

I think him getting the sack would top off an absolutely woeful year for him but in the long run, I think we would be doing him a favour.  He could go and play some golf in Portugal for a couple of months, get his head together, maybe do some TV work then decide if he wants another crack at management and we can get on with our aim of getting back up. I don't hold any ill will with the bloke (and I think some of the personal abuse has been unnecessary) but he's had a fair crack and it's time for a change.

Agree Clampy, though I do feel he has been unnecessarily antagonistic at times towards the fans and this has resulted in increasing hostility towards him from some quarters.  A parting of the ways after the play off final would have probably been best for both parties, but circumstances at the club prevented that happening. 

I think he's just going on the defensive (and not just on the pitch some might quip). He's not doing himself any favours but I can understand it.

I agree that he should have gone after the play off final but in some ways, you could argue that him staying helped in a way. The likes of Chester might have wanted to go as well if Bruce had gone and I think having a manager in place throughout the off field chaos was a good thing.
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