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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on August 11, 2018, 02:03:46 PM
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Villa Park looks magnificent, new players in the line up. Let’s win Villa
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Yours is so tiny Toronto
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Like it!
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Taylor, Elphick, Hourinhane, Adomah....all crap on Monday, benched....that's the way.
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Wow.
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What formation is that?
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3-5-2 or 4-5-1?
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Yours is so tiny Toronto
I know. From my phone. Thanks for making it bigger...
Erm..The picture that is...
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Great selection Bruce
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That’s close to the best line up we could have hoped for. Who stole Steve Bruce and replaced him with someone more progressive?
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Yours is so tiny Toronto
I know. From my phone. Thanks for making it bigger...
Erm..The picture that is...
;)
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Picture of the pitch please anyone. :)
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3-5-2 or 4-5-1?
4-1-4-1 I think. BB in front of the back 4, Jack behind Kodjia
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I reckon it’ll be:
Nyland
Tuanzebe Chester Jedinak Hutton
Elmo McGinn Bjarnason
Grealish Kodjia Green
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Picture of the pitch please anyone. :)
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That's about as attacking a lineup as we could wish for.
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Gorious, simply glorious, massive thanks sir.
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Same formation as the Hull game I reckon, Jedinak next to the skipper, Axel at right back. I will only love it if we win though to be fair!
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That's about as attacking a lineup as we could wish for.
Yep. No messing about from Bruce to be fair, good stuff. Should be more than enough to fuck the fuckers.
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Not 3 at the back with jedinak and axel , Hutton left Elmo right grealish in behind kodja and green?
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Nice line up!
My only reservation is; can Hutton cut in from the left, beat four defenders and score as well as he can from the right?
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Think we’re gonna have a half-decent team (on paper at least) if we get our loans in.
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Lovely team.
Come on Villa.
FTF
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Nice line up!
My only reservation is; can Hutton cut in from the left, beat four defenders and score as well as he can from the right?
He's also known as the Scottish Roberto Carlos, so of course he can!
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Win please Villa.
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Could be an odd first 20 with all the changes.
But refreshing to see the changes.
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Jedinak at centre half, Axel at right back and Elmo in midfield? We should hopefully get away with it today but I'd still prefer to see players in their best positions. Other than that, a strong line up. We still need a few in on loan.
Biggest concern is finding a stream.
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bit late coming on ...
Green McGinn Thor all in the starting line up excellent :)
and Jack fecking Grealish yeah baby
pressure is on Kodja today as he was useless monday
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Don't worry kodj will get a brace today.
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Jedinak at centre half, Axel at right back and Elmo in midfield? We should hopefully get away with it today but I'd still prefer to see players in their best positions. Other than that, a strong line up. We still need a few in on loan.
Biggest concern is finding a stream.
Just sign up to the season pass for international customers on the OS?
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So it's Lansbury who's dropped out of the squad altogether. Would think he'll have to be off on loan soon won't he?
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Well I wasn’t expecting that team and I have absolutely no idea how they are going to line up! Hope he knows what he’s doing
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Jedinak at centre half, Axel at right back and Elmo in midfield? We should hopefully get away with it today but I'd still prefer to see players in their best positions. Other than that, a strong line up. We still need a few in on loan.
Biggest concern is finding a stream.
Just sign up to the season pass for international customers on the OS?
This.
I'm watching here in Alcester, err New York, USA.
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Cross the white lines lads and just deal with Wigan....Come on you lions.
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Commentator just said 44k in today?!?
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Looks like back 4 with hutts on the left
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McGuinn looking good
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So concensus is its the right team, let's hope that's reflected in the posts to follow through 90 mins of play.
UTV
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Axel looking a bit nervy
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Kodjia looks finished. Terrible play just then. Awful.
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Kodj is a liability at the moment
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Blues losing
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Anyone have a periscope audio stream or anything at all please?
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Kodjia
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Chester get in
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Yessssssssss Chester
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Skipper
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We have got a new free kick expert! Get in
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Nice goal
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Chester!!!!
Superb delivery from McGinn
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Watching on feels like I’ve had a 10 lagers. Blurry and shaky.
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Anyone have a periscope audio stream or anything at all please?
Join the Hibs Supporters Group on facebook. Top quality
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Anyone have a periscope audio stream or anything at all please?
Join the Hibs Supporters Group on facebook. Top quality
Thank you
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Hutton is like a man possessed
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Debut assist from McGinn, absolute quality.
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Debut assist from McGinn, absolute quality.
I like what I see.
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Not surprisingly AVTV have taken my money and having a fucking nightmare. Choppy, flashing screen, no signal. Fucking hell just absolute shit
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Avtv having a meltdown
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Not surprisingly AVTV have taken my money and having a fucking nightmare. Choppy, flashing screen, no signal. Fucking hell just absolute shit
Crap service.
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Any one else having problems with AVTV ?
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Not surprisingly AVTV have taken my money and having a fucking nightmare. Choppy, flashing screen, no signal. Fucking hell just absolute shit
Watching the same stream on Periscope....NO SIGNAL all the time flickering up.
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Anyone else having problems with AVTV?
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Not surprisingly AVTV have taken my money and having a fucking nightmare. Choppy, flashing screen, no signal. Fucking hell just absolute shit
Same here. I hope the new owners are seeing this and consider investing in a proper signal and perhaps some on-screen graphics, too.
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FFS, that’s terrible. Like watching a 1970s video.
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That TalkTalk deal seems to be working well.
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AVTV a Fkin joke
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Anyone else having problems with AVTV?
Everyone
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Sound but no picture now.
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No picture now just Audio
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Baggies losing
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Disgraceful service...and even when threre's a picture there's no score on screen, no replays.
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How do we complain about this shit.
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Better off searching for a dodgy stream than paying for that shite.
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Same issue here, sound only now no audio
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Not surprisingly AVTV have taken my money and having a fucking nightmare. Choppy, flashing screen, no signal. Fucking hell just absolute shit
Crap service.
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Hate the new kit
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Not surprisingly AVTV have taken my money and having a fucking nightmare. Choppy, flashing screen, no signal. Fucking hell just absolute shit
Yes, absolutely. Fuck them with a giant spear. Dreadful.coverage in general, and abysmal customer service.
Yet, there are few other ways to watch the championship games. Monopolising fuckers.
But we're winning. Fantastic.
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We're back on.
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Despite the fact I can’t see anything it sounds like we are not playing well at the moment
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AVTV back
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Belated.... goooooooooooool!
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Off the line by Elmo. Nick Powell looks very good indeed for them.
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The screen back on but the commentary is ahead of the picture.
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video is back but now the audio stream is not synced properly
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We’re having a mare at the back.
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Not sure about the keeper at the moment
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Refreshing the screen will sync the audio with the video
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Now the picture is 2 seconds behind the picture.
Absolute wank.
EDIT. JUst seen CT's post. That seems to have fixed it.
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Fuck great move. Kodjia nearly in from a cracking cross from Jack
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Found a stream but the sound is ahead of the pictures, so I heard Kod fail to connect before I saw it.
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So do I assume that you all missed the best bit of skill EVER?
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Shot from McGinn....lovely
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Lovely shot from McGinn. He’s going to become a favourite very quickly.
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Refreshing the screen will sync the audio with the video
Worked
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So do I assume that you all missed the best bit of skill EVER?
Yes I saw it, remind me again
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McGuinn and Jack look like they can develop an understanding
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So do I assume that you all missed the best bit of skill EVER?
Kidding or ?
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Hutton's turn. Fucking fantastic.
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Was being suggested before the game that this was essentially a sell out aside from the upper Trinity. But there’s loads of empty seats.
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Standard of refereeing is par for the course
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John McGinn is rather good.
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Air shot from McGinn, get rid!
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McGuinn is like a younger fitter Snoddy
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1-1
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Oh Bollocks!!
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Fucking hell what a disaster 1-1
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Shambles
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Utter shit by Jedinak
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Who passed that back then?
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FFS need a new CB
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Our own worst enemy
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Nice one, Jedi. FFS
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Was that Jedinak? He should be taken out and shot.
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Jedinak is not a centre back. Steve.
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Fcuking Jedinak does that all the fucking time....he's crap on the ball
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Good to see we've solved giving away fecking stupid goals.
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That’s not the first shit backpass by Jedinak today. When RDL is back next week get him in at RB and Axel to CB.
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Kodjia never makes a run in the box does he
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That’s twice we have put the goalkeeper in trouble
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That’s not the first shit backpass by Jedinak today. When RDL is back next week get him in at RB and Axel to CB.
Sounds like a plan.
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Not entirely sure elphick deserved to get dropped. He is bobbins but so is jedinak at cb.
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Kodjia never makes a run in the box does he
I’m more and more convinced now that Kodjia is spent. From looking like a £30m player to someone who might not even be £3m.
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Playing well until that cock up
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I know most people liked the look of the team sheet but my big fear was Jedinak at CB. He just isn't one. Elphick may be iffy there but I think even he is less of a liability than Jedinak there.
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If Axl is a Centre half, why not play him there?
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Can ya just go and get JT back? We're gonna be exposed at CB all year, ridiculous that it wasn't addressed over the summer.
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I know most people liked the look of the team sheet but my big fear was Jedinak at CB. He just isn't one. Elphick may be iffy there but I think even he is less of a liability than Jedinak there.
Same here, don’t get it,
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I'd be bringing the Russian on for the second half to worry their defence. Kodjia looks awful. Regardless we should be beating these cloggers, they're absolute shit.
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Playing well until that cock up
Not so sure to be honest. Wigan are no mugs and keep finding spaces in our defence and we look powder puff up front. We definitely need more loans
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That’s not the first shit backpass by Jedinak today. When RDL is back next week get him in at RB and Axel to CB.
Agreed but Elmo has been known to play right back every now and then. There's no need for this bollocks.
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I'd be bringing the Russian on for the second half to worry their defence. Kodjia looks awful. Regardless we should be beating these cloggers, they're absolute shit.
No brainer
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Jedinak and Kodjia are poor, Nyland looks nervous
the ref is shockingly bad...almost as bad as AVTV
Jack is pulling the strings nicely
and Green and McGinn are doing well
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At least Woaks got his 50
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That’s not the first shit backpass by Jedinak today. When RDL is back next week get him in at RB and Axel to CB.
Agreed but Elmo has been known to play right back every now and then. There's no need for this bollocks.
Almost the entire season, so it’s Bruce doing the make things difficult by playing some one out of position.
Does not make sense.
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That’s not the first shit backpass by Jedinak today. When RDL is back next week get him in at RB and Axel to CB.
Agreed but Elmo has been known to play right back every now and then. There's no need for this bollocks.
Almost the entire season, so it’s Bruce doing the make things difficult by playing some one out of position.
Does not make sense.
You sound surprised. We can't afford to be dropping points especially at home. Bruce needs to stop bloody tinkering and keep it simple by playing players in their best positions.
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I know most people liked the look of the team sheet but my big fear was Jedinak at CB. He just isn't one. Elphick may be iffy there but I think even he is less of a liability than Jedinak there.
Same here, don’t get it,
Bruce has more faith in Jedinak than Elphick regardless of his position. Which is a shame as Jedinak has dropped enough clangers playing there that Bruce, a centre back himself, should be keeping him away from there.
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Both goals we have conceded this season have been comically bad. We look decent enough going forward but won't be challenging for promotion the way we are shooting ourselves in the foot.
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Jedi is a terrible centre half.
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Playing well until that cock up
Not at Villa Park we are not.
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C’mon Villa. Let’s put in a shift and win this game!!!
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Win the fucking game Villa.
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Corner. Let’s go
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McGinn’s corners are very good.
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Corner. Let’s go
Excellent delivery from McGinn again.
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Got a bit of Paul Birch about him when he runs does McGinn
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When are our front players going to score, we are relying on defenders so far. The new players need to settle in but we need to score more from open play, can't keep relying on set pieces or McMessi magic
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McGinn looks like he'll be a very good signing, Kod looks shit yet again.
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McGinn looks like he'll be a very good signing, Kod looks shit yet again.
He’s just not a central striker. He’d be better off playing on the wing. Green as been a little anonymous. I’d stick RHM on and put Kodjia out wide.
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Time to give Hepburn-Murphy a run out?
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Fuck poor jump from Kodjia. Should have scored from another great McGinn cross
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Kodjia should have scored there.
Another excellent ball from McGinn into the box.
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Great cross, shit header from Kod
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Ffs Kodja - needs a kick up his backside and start playing like before
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Have to do better with the Kod
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Kodjia you can’t afford to miss them!
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Awful miss Kodija
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The ref is having a mare
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The ref is having a mare
You’re not kidding!!
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Fucking hell 2-1 Wigan
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Double bollocks.
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1-2
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Our new goalie's kicking is dodgy AF according to Pat Murphy.
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oh shite
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Nyland error according to Pat Murphy on 5 live.
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We look crap defensively
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That all started with a Wigan free kick on half way that I haven't got a clue what it was given for.
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Fucking shite. Playing 2 defenders out of position really doesn't help.
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FFS
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oh come the f on.
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Well this would be a fucking terrible result.
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We’ve actually looked really terrible in the middle of defence. Last game and this. Poor communication and very sloppy.
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That all started with a Wigan free kick on half way that I haven't got a clue what it was given for.
I wondered if it was handball against Kod, but not really sure. Regardless it was utterly wank from us defensively.
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Is this where we should have a manager that actually gets us playing again
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Please don't do this Villa, not this ffs.
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And why the fuck are we always shit versus Wigan at home?
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So far this season our defence has scored 4 and given away 3.
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That all started with a Wigan free kick on half way that I haven't got a clue what it was given for.
Kodija hand ball that wasn’t
The ref is shocking
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Fucking terrible.
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And why the fuck are we always shit versus Wigan at home?
We beat them 5.0 in 1994 League Cup.
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Us in a nutshell right there. Our strikers can’t score and our defence can’t defend.
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Sort it the fuck out.
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At what point does he work out that a Kodija is fucked
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This is a joke. Why is Kodjia still playing. Get RHM on now, at least he'd look like he gave a toss. I'd rather have an injured one legged Scott Hogan playing than Kodjia at the moment, that's how terrible he is.
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So far this season our defence has scored 4 and given away 3.
DEEEE FENCE!
Fuck a duck!
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Make a fucking change you spud faced twat.
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At what point does he work out that a Kodija is fucked
Probably 5 minutes to go knowing Bruce
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Shocking stuff. Defence is a shambles and Jack really needs to get the finger out.
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Make a fucking change you spud faced twat.
RHM coming on. The right change would be for Green with Kodjia going left.
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I'm starting to think that John Terry is quite good.
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And we do miss Snodgrass
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I'm starting to think that John Terry is quite good.
No shit.
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Jack is getting kicked to shit.
Good move though. Kodjia nearly in
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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2-2.
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Yesssss o.g another defender
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Fluke!
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Own goal
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2-2
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Equaliser. Own goal from another McGinn corner.
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Get in !!
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I'm starting to think that John Terry is quite good.
No shit.
No really, hear me out, I think he's good at football.
OH THANK FUCK.
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I'm starting to think that John Terry is quite good.
You can't lose a player who contributed as much as he did last season and expect to maintain the same level.
We're going to struggle at the back this season.
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Make a fucking change you spud faced twat.
RHM coming on. The right change would be for Green with Kodjia going left.
With Kodjia going home you mean.
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Actually Albert coming on for Axel. Elmo to RB
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OG Dunkley.
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Get in there!!!!
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I wonder if we've ever had our first 5 goals of the season scored by 0 strikers or midfielders before.
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Adomah on for Axel.
Elmo to right back?
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Don’t understand that sub
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Yes get in, now win the fucking game Villa.
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I wonder if we've ever had our first 5 goals of the season scored by 0 strikers or midfielders before.
It’s very worrying. Because like Albert’s hot streak you know it will dry up soon
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Adomah on for Axel.
Elmo to right back?
Yes
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Thank goodness for that now, panic over lets put this to bed, get the 3 points and move on.
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Jedinak should have scored with that.
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Another brilliant cross from McGinn. Jedinak close
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Set plays from Snoddy ver2.0 are very good
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Jedinak is largely shite, let's be honest.
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We’re getting closer
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Koj needs a goal
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Ffs who put a voodoo on our strikers
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Looking better now. If only we had a striker on the pitch.
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Jedinak is largely shite, let's be honest.
Not when played in the right position he isn’t at all
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Looking better now. If only we had a striker on the pitch.
That Nick Powell would have been decent had we got him.
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Ffs who put a voodoo on our strikers
Marcus Allback.
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Set plays from Snoddy ver2.0 are very good
Bruce will soon change that when he's been here a week or so
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Nice shot by Green saved
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Fuck me we got away with one there.
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Fuck me they should be winning. All started by another giveaway from Jedinak
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Fuck lucky there
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😳😳😳 that was close
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Ffs who put a voodoo on our strikers
Marcus Allback.
Blast from the past... 2004?
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Thing is with Jedi, when he’s bad he’s liable to cost us at least two goals.
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Thing is with Jedi, when he’s bad he’s liable to cost us at least two goals.
Yup. And I still don't buy that he's great at what he does in front of the back four "when played in position". He was shite there, the start of last season, and anyone with pace just dances around him
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I like our no 7
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RHM coming on for Green.
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Lovely move again. McGinn with the shot.
RHM coming on for Green. Hopefully Kodjia goes out left
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McGinn, that was pure determination - absolute quality.
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Don't see 3-5-2 working for us tbh.
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Our finishing is crap.
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Come on Rushian. It's your time son.
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Come on Jack. Nice corner niw
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🤢🤒😱🤯 time again
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Every team we play against pass to feet, whereas we run with it for too long, head down, making things difficult for ourselves. The alternative to this is hoof. We have the players to be much, much better
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Adomah :( poor pass
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Terrible from Adomah.
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Every team we play against pass to feet, whereas we run with it for too long, head down, making things difficult for ourselves. The alternative to this is hoof. We have the players to be much, much better
But not the manager
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🤢🤒😱🤯 time again
Doc?
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Every team we play against pass to feet, whereas we run with it for too long, head down, making things difficult for ourselves. The alternative to this is hoof. We have the players to be much, much better
because I don't think we coach movement
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Every team we play against pass to feet, whereas we run with it for too long, head down, making things difficult for ourselves. The alternative to this is hoof. We have the players to be much, much better
But not the manager
Who's the manager? Yet to see him
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Every team we play against pass to feet, whereas we run with it for too long, head down, making things difficult for ourselves. The alternative to this is hoof. We have the players to be much, much better
But not the manager
Spot on
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Fucking hell pass the bloody ball!
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Every team we play against pass to feet, whereas we run with it for too long, head down, making things difficult for ourselves. The alternative to this is hoof. We have the players to be much, much better
But not the manager
Spot on
Afraid so.
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This keeper looks more than a little dodgy.
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Oh dear Nyland... shaky start
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Gary Gardner sent off for dogshitters
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Kodjia, time to retire I think mate.
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We are panicking too easily
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Jedi has got the touch of a catholic priest
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McGiniesta
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Gary Gardner sent off for dogshitters
😂😂😂 that will make him popular
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We are panicking too easily
Again...
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Jedi has got the touch of a catholic priest
Should we play him in the hole in that case? :-D
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Gary Gardner sent off for dogshitters
😂😂😂 that will make him popular
It was Craig for violent conduct.
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When asked why Steer went out on loan Bruce said "He's had a lot of injuries since I arrived here." So as soon as he got fit the natural thing to do was ship him out, not even for a fee, and bring in two largely untested keepers who've never played English football before.
Fucking madness when you stop to think about it.
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Jeez this is not good
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Should we play him in the hole in that case? :-D
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When asked why Steer went out on loan Bruce said "He's had a lot of injuries since I arrived here." So as soon as he got fit the natural thing to do was ship him out, not even for a fee, and bring in two largely untested keepers who've never played English football before.
Fucking madness when you stop to think about it.
Bruce logic, unbelievable
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Come on you fuckers. A Bruce draw here and we're chasing the others. Fucking sort it!
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Hourihane for Kodjia.
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C'mon Villa get the job done.
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Will there much injury time?
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Chester all the time to head the ball to the keeper, but doesn't trust him
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We can't afford too many draws at home. Looks like we're going to use up one of the quota today.
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No clock on avtv - no clue if 90 has gone
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Will there much injury time?
5 minutes
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Kodjia subbed with 4 minutes left, typical Bruce
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Kodjia subbed with 4 minutes left, typical Bruce
Way way to late in the game
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5 minutes added on.
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RHM not been much improvement
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Wigan corner....
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Kodjia looks done. Accommodating him actively deprives others of chances and if he ain’t scoring then how do you justify it.
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Not going to go nuts over this. There have good moments and very shaken ones. We miss Terry’s influence and calm because at the back it’s awful right now. Still we have time to get reinforcements and two or three good ones will make a massive difference.
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So we are getting a point at home because of an own-goal?
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No we're getting a win Rigby....
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Jaasssssss
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Yessssssssss
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Bjarnasssoooonnnnnnnn!
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WOOHOOO
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Yeessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes!!!
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Bjarni. 3-2.
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What a fucking ball by Conor!!!!!!!!!!! Get the fuck in Thor
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Yessss
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Yeessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your favourite player!!
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Fuck me got away with this. 5/10 performance.
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Yeessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your favourite player!!
Nah, that's Hogan.
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Masterstroke from Bruce... he knows his shit
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So we are getting a point at home because of an own-goal?
Nah
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Stay calm at the back now Villa FFS
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So we are getting a point at home because of an own-goal?
If we're relying on the Kodj, they could be our leading scorers after our defenders
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Never in doubt. Bruce is a genius.
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Get in!!!!!!!!
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YES!!!!!!
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Full time.
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Yeessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your favourite player!!
Nah, that's Hogan.
He doesn't like that is Vikings aren't smiling, and always serious 😎😎😎😎
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This is how real promotion contenders do it, below par performance and still get the win.
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The Messi immobiliser is now the er, Wigan worrier.
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Get in Villa. Fuck me. 6 points from 6.
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And Woakes (Villa Fan) is on 80
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and thats why you play thor
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And Woakes (Villa Fan) is on 80
84
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Some special Brucey man love for Grealish at the end whistle there.
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Get the fucking fuck in!
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And Woakes (Villa Fan) is on 80
84
LOL
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Bruce will no doubt say it was in his game plan to score late on. Once again the front men haven't scored, but UTV
Well done lads
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Only took 19 years to open the season with 2 wins...
Got there!
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Only took 19 years to open the season with 2 wins...
Got there!
Jeez didn't know that
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Fuck me! Get in!