Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ad@m on August 04, 2018, 10:49:19 PM
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Have been released - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/08/03/squad-numbers-2018-19
Maybe I'm old fashioned but it doesn't fill me with confidence about our goalkeeping options when we have three keepers on the books and none of them warrant the number 1 shirt!!
Oh, and when did numbers 4, 7 and 11 go out of fashion?!
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A lot of players don't like to change numbers. 11 was Gabby, 4 was Samba, Bacuna was 7 before leaving and then it was Snodgrass.
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Let's hope there are some incoming players to fill those shirts.
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I think all of those shirts will have players to fill them by the end of August. Will be a busy couple of weeks for Villa.
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Courtois coming in for number 1 shirt, Kante will be signed from Chelsea for number 4 while Mbappe will have to choose either 7 or 11. Modric will pick up whichever number Mbappe doesn’t pick😁
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Can't believe we've lost Samba.
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Can't believe we've lost Samba.
It's an FFP thing, we needed to get him and Gabby off the catering budget.
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Having four goalkeepers in the squad but no number one or thirteen must be some sort of first.
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I saw a rumour today that we're after a keeper from the German 2nd Division to be our number 1, which begs the question, why the fuck have we brought in the guy from Madrid given we already have three reserve goalies?!
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No number for McCormack, so presumably he won't be registered in our squad for the season. Unless I've missed some news and he's gone out on loan again somewhere.
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Who?
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Who?
Orjan Nyland - plays for Ingolstadt
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Sorry Ad@m, I was facetiously referring to Proposition Joe's post about McCaramac
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He is not a number!
He is a free man.
#The Prisoner #UselessBloatedPissartist
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Bunn is out of contract so smeg knows why he has a squad number.
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Can't believe we've lost Samba.
With his size and lack of pace I am sure we will be able to catch him and bring him back.
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No number for McCormack, so presumably he won't be registered in our squad for the season. Unless I've missed some news and he's gone out on loan again somewhere.
No Richards either - bloody money well spent
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No number for Tshibola either.
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Bomb squads suck.
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Bizarre any club short of money would try to ignore assets that cost 15m. One thing not playing them, another to try and make them totally disappear off the face of the planet. I think we all know they're not in Nan's hair's plans but to sell them, even at a massive loss, clubs have to know they exist. Bruce must really hate McCormack and Tish
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It can't be only us that have these problem players... £15m and with Richards it must be knocking on £100k a week in wages...
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I'm not sure Tshibola could have ever been labelled a problem player apart from being deemed not good enough, but there's plenty of them at the club who aren't being erased from the records. Whole thing smacks of being personal.
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Bizarre any club short of money would try to ignore assets that cost 15m. One thing not playing them, another to try and make them totally disappear off the face of the planet. I think we all know they're not in Nan's hair's plans but to sell them, even at a massive loss, clubs have to know they exist. Bruce must really hate McCormack and Tish
Agree completely. If I was the owner, I’d have made sorting out their situation so that we could get at least something back for them part of the deal of keeping Fistface in a job.
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Bizarre any club short of money would try to ignore assets that cost 15m. One thing not playing them, another to try and make them totally disappear off the face of the planet. I think we all know they're not in Nan's hair's plans but to sell them, even at a massive loss, clubs have to know they exist. Bruce must really hate McCormack and Tish
Agree completely. If I was the owner, I’d have made sorting out their situation so that we could get at least something back for them part of the deal of keeping Fistface in a job.
You say that in a way that suggests they haven't.
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It seems fairly clear that they haven't. Not giving them a squad number is petty and childish. Thought we had seen the last of this nonsense when Lambert left.
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It seems fairly clear that they haven't. Not giving them a squad number is petty and childish. Thought we had seen the last of this nonsense when Lambert left.
Surely with limited squad sizes if we are looking to add players some numbers need to be left free.
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It seems fairly clear that they haven't. Not giving them a squad number is petty and childish. Thought we had seen the last of this nonsense when Lambert left.
I don't see any evidence of that.
I'm pretty sure that there aren't any clubs out there that won't be aware of the players, and if there are, the agents involved should be bloody shot.
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It seems fairly clear that they haven't. Not giving them a squad number is petty and childish. Thought we had seen the last of this nonsense when Lambert left.
Surely with limited squad sizes if we are looking to add players some numbers need to be left free.
You can give as many players as you like squad numbers. They can all, at least, play in the cups. You only have to finalise your 25 man squad at the end of the month. Choosing squad numbers has no bearing on how many players you pick for your 25. Some clubs even have trite nonsense like "The Fans" as twelfth man. They don't lose an available squad place to do so.
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It seems fairly clear that they haven't. Not giving them a squad number is petty and childish. Thought we had seen the last of this nonsense when Lambert left.
I don't see any evidence of that.
I'm pretty sure that there aren't any clubs out there that won't be aware of the players, and if there are, the agents involved should be bloody shot.
What club in their right mind is going to pay for a player who hasn't played, and who they haven't seen play. At least if they were appearing in reserve games, they'd be keeping up their fitness and who knows, might actually prove their worth if we get another injury crisis in the season.
I agree with cd, I thought this sort of rubbish was left behind with Lambert. The bomb squad idea was a bad one then, and it's a bad one now.
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They could take them on trial, as that's a longstanding method of assessment in football.
Perhaps for Tshibola they could look at last season's evidence and for McCormack, they won't be unaware.
Why should we unsettle the rest of the squad in order to shoe-horn in an arsehole who couldn't be bothered to come to work and who refuses to apologise to his boss?
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Or, why should we keep paying £3m a year in wages, and charging a further £3m a year in amortisation for a player who isn't being given a chance to redeem himself and who we have absolute zero chance of selling.
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It seems fairly clear that they haven't. Not giving them a squad number is petty and childish. Thought we had seen the last of this nonsense when Lambert left.
Surely with limited squad sizes if we are looking to add players some numbers need to be left free.
You can give as many players as you like squad numbers. They can all, at least, play in the cups. You only have to finalise your 25 man squad at the end of the month. Choosing squad numbers has no bearing on how many players you pick for your 25. Some clubs even have trite nonsense like "The Fans" as twelfth man. They don't lose an available squad place to do so.
Giving squad numbers to players you do not want to use seems pointless and why play them in the cups at the expense of players we want to develop? If they are happy to just hang around picking up a wage without contributing then there is little else we can do than make it abundantly clear that they have no future and then it us up to them, or their agent, to try get a move.
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What makes you think they're happy to hang around? Both went on loan last season. One of them went just about as far as it is possible to go without getting in a spaceship in order to play first team football.
McCormack would score more goals than Hogan. There is literally zero point in refusing to include him in the squad. Unless we have at least one forward we are relatively confident of signing.
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McCormack would score more goals than Hogan. There is literally zero point in refusing to include him in the squad. Unless we have at least one forward we are relatively confident of signing.
I can think of at least one point for not including him. He's an arsehole.
And one that disrespected the club, numerous times by not even bothering to get of his fat arse to training.
Seems literally the perfect season for casting him aside.
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McCormack would score more goals than Hogan. There is literally zero point in refusing to include him in the squad. Unless we have at least one forward we are relatively confident of signing.
I can think of at least one point for not including him. He's an arsehole.
And one that disrespected the club, numerous times by not even bothering to get of his fat arse to training.
Seems literally the perfect season for casting him aside.
That's a fair point if it had been applied across the whole squad but it wasn't. The main reason McCormack got the life sentance was because Bruce wouldn't have got the money for Hogan if there was a chance of him being let back in the squad.
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McCormack would score more goals than Hogan. There is literally zero point in refusing to include him in the squad. Unless we have at least one forward we are relatively confident of signing.
I can think of at least one point for not including him. He's an arsehole.
And one that disrespected the club, numerous times by not even bothering to get of his fat arse to training.
Seems literally the perfect season for casting him aside.
That's a fair point if it had been applied across the whole squad but it wasn't. The main reason McCormack got the life sentance was because Bruce wouldn't have got the money for Hogan if there was a chance of him being let back in the squad.
So who else failed to turn up for training and then failed to apologise to his boss?
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Or, why should we keep paying £3m a year in wages, and charging a further £3m a year in amortisation for a player who isn't being given a chance to redeem himself and who we have absolute zero chance of selling.
Because employment dictates that we have to pay him in line with his contract. As for amortisation, you tell me, you're the accountant.
If you employed someone who couldn't be arsed to come to work, and when tackled he refused to say sorry, would you then stick him up on your employee list for all to see and promote him as if he were great? Would you then give him work with the rest of your best employees to give him a chance? Would you fuck.
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Has Alex been given no 4 shirt ?
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Or, why should we keep paying £3m a year in wages, and charging a further £3m a year in amortisation for a player who isn't being given a chance to redeem himself and who we have absolute zero chance of selling.
Because employment dictates that we have to pay him in line with his contract. As for amortisation, you tell me, you're the accountant.
If you employed someone who couldn't be arsed to come to work, and when tackled he refused to say sorry, would you then stick him up on your employee list for all to see and promote him as if he were great? Would you then give him work with the rest of your best employees to give him a chance? Would you fuck.
But you could sack him for disciplinary reasons... even easier if he had been employed for less than two years. Football clubs can't seem to do this.
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Has Alex been given no 4 shirt ?
From avfc
Axel Tuanzebe takes the No.4 shirt.
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Squad List updated
1. Ørjan Nyland
2. Ritchie De Laet
3. Neil Taylor
4. Axel Tuanzebe
5. James Chester
6. Glenn Whelan
7. John McGinn
8. Henri Lansbury
9. Scott Hogan
10. Jack Grealish
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14. Conor Hourihane
15. Mile Jedinak
16. James Bree
17. Keinan Davis
19. Andre Green
20. Birkir Bjarnason
21. Alan Hutton
23. Andre Moreira
24. Tommy Elphick
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26. Jonathan Kodjia
27. Ahmed Elmohamady
29. Rushian Hepburn-Murphy
31. Mark Bunn
33. Matija Sarkic
37. Albert Adomah
Gards 25 and Steer 12 out on loan
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No Gardner now though
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No Gardner now though
Updates ! Thanks I guess the jersey will need official free then