Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Salsa Party Animal on June 06, 2018, 03:33:59 PM
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Feck the football league and stupid FFP rules and small TV budget. Time for Aston Villa and other 22 clubs say we want better terms for us.
I don't see why the fans should suffer from unfair rules.
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I don't care any more. Football is shot and it's no fun watching your club get worse and worse and worse for a decade.
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When you see the likes of Ronaldo demanding £1.35 m a week you know it's time to look for a new hobby or sport to watch
Look at the wasters we have at our club - it's no wonder we are going belly up
I am not currently earning and when I read of people picking up £30k per week for not even playing it makes me physically sick
I hope we turn things around however I fear we may be the first of many clubs to go to the wall chasing the Premier dream
It really hurts
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Presumably this was posted in the heat of the moment, but there's nothing particularly unfair about what is happening, it would appear to be entirely of our own making.
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Doesn't matter what you call it, it will still be division 2 and still have limited appeal to sponsors, TV companies etc as not many outside of the fans of the clubs in it will give much of a toss about it.
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It already exists
8th and down in the existing prem
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In a bout of smug pomposity, I’d like to say that you reap what you sow. When the greedy club owners grabbed the Sky cash in their unseemly haste to fuel their greed and cast off the rest of the football league to become founders of the “Premier” league, the seeds were sown.
Where was the chest beating and wailing about equality and financial fair playback then? Where were the people shouting about the need for owners to be fit and proper persons. When fans became “customers” the writing was on the wall. Parachute payments reward failure and along with the eye watering amounts of TV and sponsorship monies have helped to fuel inflation across all the leagues.
This situation stinks of another Leeds, Portsmouth, Bolton, Blues, Blackburn etc. It is a national disgrace that football has been allowed to be hijacked by big business.
The mantra should now by NOT MY CLUB with demands for proper controls being introduced for ALL clubs.
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I don't care any more. Football is shot and it's no fun watching your club get worse and worse and worse for a decade.
This..can't remember the last time I watched MOTD..have zero interest in the prem when we aren't in it..can barely muster any interest watching England too...
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I don't care any more. Football is shot and it's no fun watching your club get worse and worse and worse for a decade.
This..can't remember the last time I watched MOTD..have zero interest in the prem when we aren't in it..can barely muster any interest watching England too...
Me too. I'm very close to walking away. I've had no enjoyment at all and everything that has happened the last 2 days sums up why I increasing hate football.
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I don't care any more. Football is shot and it's no fun watching your club get worse and worse and worse for a decade.
This..can't remember the last time I watched MOTD..have zero interest in the prem when we aren't in it..can barely muster any interest watching England too...
Me too. I'm very close to walking away. I've had no enjoyment at all and everything that has happened the last 2 days sums up why I increasing hate football.
My wife made me laugh. One of her clients said "What does your Daz think of the Champions League result". She told him "He doesn't give a shit about any football that doesn't concern the Villa"
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Rather than the Premier League division 2, Wouldnt it be great to be the pioneers of the New Football League Division 1. Break away from the greed and filth of modern football.
Give every club a squad wage cap equivalent to 10k per player with squads capped at 25players, standard 2 year rolling contracts extended at the end of each season with wages diminishing for the second season if player/club dont agree to extend it. No transfer fees, agent fees paid by the player if he chooses to have one. match ticket prices reduced accordingly and capped. TV rights could be bought by the BBC as they could afford it again - Rules set for 10 years apart from wage cap rising in line with inflation.
It may only attract players of current FL1/2 level but modern football is going to eat itself eventually. We would still get 38k through the door every week
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It'll never happen but Football needs to follow the NFL with salary caps for each division and even transfer caps.
So all teams get a maximum per season they can spend on salaries for the listed squad. Divide it how you like but assemble your squad on the same budgets, bring the kids through and thus improve the National side in the process.
At the moment it's pretty much...
Throw money in to win the Prem
Throw money to get Champions League
Throw Money to stay in the Prem
Throw Money to get up to the Prem...
We aren't the first to suffer, we won't be the last. The top 6 are getting further and further detached from "the rest"
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would be nice though wouldnt it? We invented the football league once before dont forget....
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would be nice though wouldnt it? We invented the football league once before dont forget....
Spooky posting that as I was typing...yea would be nice...money has taken over though. It stopped being about the fans years ago...watch Man City spend big and get even further away this year.. I hope they do to show what a farce it's all become.
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It already exists
8th and down in the existing prem
This.
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I agree a lot of this, but must say that next season'e championship is looking more like the old Division One I knew and loved growing up in the 70s/80s - anyone could feasibly win it, which is a good thing. I have no interest in the Prem.
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Pretty much stopped watching football of any description outside of the lower leagues. I know footballers have a short-ish career, but even 2nd tier squad players they get paid more in a week than I do in a year. Career's not that short, and it ain't like they're totally unemployable afterwards in any case.
Rather than the Premier League division 2, Wouldnt it be great to be the pioneers of the New Football League Division 1. Break away from the greed and filth of modern football.
Give every club a squad wage cap equivalent to 10k per player with squads capped at 25players, standard 2 year rolling contracts extended at the end of each season with wages diminishing for the second season if player/club dont agree to extend it. No transfer fees, agent fees paid by the player if he chooses to have one. match ticket prices reduced accordingly and capped. TV rights could be bought by the BBC as they could afford it again - Rules set for 10 years apart from wage cap rising in line with inflation.
It may only attract players of current FL1/2 level but modern football is going to eat itself eventually. We would still get 38k through the door every week
This.
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I agree a lot of this, but must say that next season'e championship is looking more like the old Division One I knew and loved growing up in the 70s/80s - anyone could feasibly win it, which is a good thing. I have no interest in the Prem.
I haven't had much interest in it since we've been out of it either.
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I agree a lot of this, but must say that next season'e championship is looking more like the old Division One I knew and loved growing up in the 70s/80s - anyone could feasibly win it, which is a good thing. I have no interest in the Prem.
I haven't had much interest in it since we've been out of it either.
Same for me. I haven't watched MoTD for 3 years.
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The current model is unsustainable and perhaps it's best to be out of the PL when it all implodes. That could mean some clubs going to the wall. There is too much money at the top and not enough lower down. I think a tax of 1% of turnover on ALL clubs would be a good idea and that pot of money is redistributed at the end of the season equally to every team in each division - so 40% of the pot goes to League 2 teams, 30% to League 1, 20% to the Championship and finally 10% to the Premier League.
Won't happen but think of the good that could come of it...
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The TV companies as I understand it are already indicating that future rights deals will not be like in the past with BT apparently indicating they may not bid for future rights packages. As the league becomes less competitive each year, people are turning away from watching the same old teams wining everything. Man City are undoubtedly a good team, they should be with the money they're spending, but how much of their record points and goals last year was because most of the league is made up of crap?
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think it's a time for a european league to be set up been advocating this for a few years now . the top 2 or 4 from spain , germany , prem league , italy etc play in a league of there own .
this would leave the rest to compete on a more even keel . can't see it happening any day soon but i can't see any other alternatives . can you ?
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think it's a time for a european league to be set up been advocating this for a few years now . the top 2 or 4 from spain , germany , prem league , italy etc play in a league of there own .
this would leave the rest to compete on a more even keel . can't see it happening any day soon but i can't see any other alternatives . can you ?
The trouble is that the money would just follow the so called mega clubs and there would be even less for the rest.
The Chumps league format was changed when this was threatened a few years back to ensure the same elite continued to dominate and take most of the cash.
Even when they lose in the Chumps league, several are fast tracked into the later stages of the Europa Cup.
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I agree a lot of this, but must say that next season'e championship is looking more like the old Division One I knew and loved growing up in the 70s/80s - anyone could feasibly win it, which is a good thing. I have no interest in the Prem.
I haven't had much interest in it since we've been out of it either.
I was saying the same when the England squad was announced. Outside of the few obvious names I just couldn't comment on many of the players because I just haven't paid attention to it. My appetite for football is declining and I hate admitting that, especially in a WC year. Fuck Villa have sucked the enjoyment out of a sport I love and I know it shouldn't be like that.
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Simple answer is NO.
The premiersh-te is bad enough (Monopoly City had it won pre-xmas). Any team from 5th/6th down could be swopped with any of the top 11/12 teams in the championship and there wouldn't be much difference.
The championship has its faults but at least it's competitive in its current format.
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ok so it looks like all alternatives are a no go then
on a similar tone how would you lot feel that if rangers and celtic be allowed in the prem league ?
i,m sat on the fence with this one
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I agree a lot of this, but must say that next season'e championship is looking more like the old Division One I knew and loved growing up in the 70s/80s - anyone could feasibly win it, which is a good thing. I have no interest in the Prem.
I haven't had much interest in it since we've been out of it either.
Same for me. I haven't watched MoTD for 3 years.
Me too. Few lads at work were talking about getting fantasy football league going and I could say with all honesty that I have no interest in the premier league so wouldn't be joining in.
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Never in a million years would I want those 2 in the English leagues. The can keep their bigotry north of the border.
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i guess that's the downfall of both clubs shinny to ever it happening . on a football front would like both to be involved a sort of british league
i get a bit of grief with the welsh clubs in the english pyramid from fans from over the border . i couldn't imagine us playing tns and bangor every week in the welsh prem league -lol