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Title: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 20, 2018, 01:55:05 AM
Portman Road, Saturday 21st April, 3pm KO.

2-1 win and Alan Brazil to whine for the next 37 years about how they should have won.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villabear on April 20, 2018, 06:39:12 AM
Portman Road, Saturday 21st April, 3pm KO.

2-1 win and Alan Brazil to whine for the next 37 years about how they should have won.

Every time he mentions ‘Gatesy’ or ‘Warky’ you know he’s about to mention it. I never tire of hearing him being so bitter about it.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 20, 2018, 07:44:58 AM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: postal on April 20, 2018, 08:30:07 AM
Surely a win against Ipshite.

2 nil to us. kodjia and grabben
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 20, 2018, 08:38:07 AM
Portman Road, Saturday 21st April, 3pm KO.

2-1 win and Alan Brazil to whine for the next 37 years about how they should have won.

Every time he mentions ‘Gatesy’ or ‘Warky’ you know he’s about to mention it. I never tire of hearing him being so bitter about it.

Terrible broadcaster, I can't believe how many people find the likes of him and Mike Parry listenable.

Last time I went to Ipswich we'd got to our seat to see Luc Nilis sprawled on the pitch in agony. Tomorrow, 1-2. Kodjia with both.

Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 20, 2018, 08:51:08 AM
I met an Ipswich fan at work yesterday - which was enough for me to like him, surrounded as I am by boring Gooners forever droning on about their team's shortcomings as they wait for Wenger to die.

Anyway, lovely fella, the Ipswich lad. He expects us to win comfortably as, for all his perceived shortcomings, Mick McCartney kept them competitive and apparently there's already been a noticable drop-off in intensity since he said "Fuxk this for a game of soldiers" and left the other week.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 20, 2018, 08:51:47 AM
Portman Road, Saturday 21st April, 3pm KO.

2-1 win and Alan Brazil to whine for the next 37 years about how they should have won.

Every time he mentions ‘Gatesy’ or ‘Warky’ you know he’s about to mention it. I never tire of hearing him being so bitter about it.

Terrible broadcaster, I can't believe how many people find the likes of him and Mike Parry listenable.

Last time I went to Ipswich we'd got to our seat to see Luc Nilis sprawled on the pitch in agony. Tomorrow, 1-2. Kodjia with both.

What a pearler from Lee though.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 20, 2018, 09:29:16 AM
Great thread title. 0-2 to the better team in 1981.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on April 20, 2018, 09:48:04 AM
I'm going for a 1-1 draw because I don 't know if we will rest players ahead of the play offs or stay with a winning team.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on April 20, 2018, 09:52:54 AM
0-4 Kodjia 2, Grabban and Chester
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 20, 2018, 09:53:21 AM
I hope he rotates the squad a little as we are guaranteed play-offs. Rest a few and try a few others in readiness for the two-legged semi and hopeful final.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 20, 2018, 09:58:31 AM
1-0 to the Lions. Kodjia with an absolute belter.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: postal on April 20, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
I'm going for a 1-1 draw because I don 't know if we will rest players ahead of the play offs or stay with a winning team.

I get the feeling that Snodgrass needs a bit of a rest. I can't see us getting 3rd so we will be 4th, as 5th place cant catch us.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 20, 2018, 10:48:10 AM
I met an Ipswich fan at work yesterday - which was enough for me to like him, surrounded as I am by boring Gooners forever droning on about their team's shortcomings as they wait for Wenger to die.

They're not going to have to wait that long eamonn by the looks of it.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on April 20, 2018, 10:50:28 AM
Kodjia is out tomorrow apparently.  Terry could be back.  I still think we'll have enough to win.  2-0 Grabban and Onomah.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on April 20, 2018, 11:00:47 AM
They aint got Sir Bobby , so I don't see the problem. Villa 5  Ipswich  2
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 20, 2018, 11:16:02 AM
Who is going to mark Paul Mariner?
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on April 20, 2018, 11:20:59 AM
Great thread title. 0-2 to the better team in 1981.

I would have extended the thread title to '1981 title winners and 1982 European cup winners v 1981 and 1982 title runners up.' I wonder what their excuse was for blowing the title again in '81-'82 as they don't seem to whine on like that one as much as the year before.

We should be able to beat a team with nothing to play for and with a temporary manager in charge. Especially a temporary manager who sounds like a spellchecker error of somebody trying to spell Brian Clough.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 20, 2018, 11:27:02 AM
The title should have been -  Alan Brazil's continued Bitterness V F*** you Alan Brazil.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 20, 2018, 12:24:20 PM
I met an Ipswich fan at work yesterday - which was enough for me to like him, surrounded as I am by boring Gooners forever droning on about their team's shortcomings as they wait for Wenger to die.

They're not going to have to wait that long eamonn by the looks of it.

Blimey, you had me feeling guilty then til I checked the news. Hard to believe he's stepped down of his own accord after all this time.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on April 20, 2018, 01:04:23 PM
Well, I'm going to the game now, so put us down for a 3-0 loss.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 20, 2018, 01:10:47 PM
Probably the only game where I wouldn't cringe if our fans sang 'Have you won the European Cup?'.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on April 20, 2018, 01:57:26 PM
Kodjia is out tomorrow apparently.  Terry could be back.  I still think we'll have enough to win.  2-0 Grabban and Onomah.

Agh, that would be a blow.  Had he been fit, I would have rested Snodgrass completely and gone with a front three of Grabban, Davis and Kodjia, with Albert and Hogan on the bench.  I know Davis hasnm't featured much recently, but he is the only real target man we have got after Grabban, who has looked better in wide positions over the past few weeks.  Would keep the midfield the same as the Leeds game and would be tempted to keep the back four the same as well, with Terry coming off the bench in the closing stages.

Would be nice to end with three wins now as you never know what might happen, but it would mean we would be going into the play offs on a high.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on April 20, 2018, 02:10:23 PM
Ipswich are on the Beach.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 20, 2018, 02:21:12 PM
Ipswich are on the Beach.

...my lord
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Charlie8182 on April 20, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.

If you ever hear John Wark, he's still bitter about it stating that Villa never won it but they lost it!!
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on April 20, 2018, 02:56:38 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.

If you ever hear John Wark, he's still bitter about it stating that Villa never won it but they lost it!!
Didn’t we win more games that season than any team in any of the divisions?
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on April 20, 2018, 03:28:21 PM
2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villabear on April 20, 2018, 03:55:49 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.

If you ever hear John Wark, he's still bitter about it stating that Villa never won it but they lost it!!

He made Stallone look a good actor in Escape to Victory
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MONCABA on April 20, 2018, 04:44:55 PM
2-0 to me villa babies.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 20, 2018, 05:28:38 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.
The 1-2 ?
what did Mills do?
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on April 20, 2018, 05:43:42 PM
2nd place isn't a mathematical impossibility just yet, is it?

Strongest team should be out. Taylor isn't playing well, so he could be 'rested'.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on April 20, 2018, 05:57:18 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.

If you ever hear John Wark, he's still bitter about it stating that Villa never won it but they lost it!!
Didn’t we win more games that season than any team in any of the divisions?


I know we won three more games and got four more points than Ipswich did. The points gap between us and Ipswich was the same as the points gap between Ipswich and fourth placed West Brom.

We won 26 games, West Ham won 28 to win the second division. Southend won 30 games to win the fourth division but they played four more games than us and West Ham.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on April 20, 2018, 07:05:10 PM
With the greatest of respect Alan, let it go. If it had been 3 points for win, we would have been out of sight before your Boro debacle.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on April 20, 2018, 07:37:48 PM
Sorry guys, don't ask me why but I just have feeling Ipswich might nick the win.  The pressures off them, our away form isn't the best, and you get funny results this time of the season.  2-1 to the home side. Snodgrass to ours. 
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on April 20, 2018, 09:04:44 PM
0-2 in Bosko Jankovic RIP ‘derby’

Snodgrass and Albert to both get back to a little form with a goal apiece
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 20, 2018, 09:20:55 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.
The 1-2 ?
what did Mills do?

If I recall correctly, basically took the piss, telling our lads they’d won the league, blah blah blah. He genuinely believed they’d won the league that night. The fool.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on April 20, 2018, 09:25:05 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.

If you ever hear John Wark, he's still bitter about it stating that Villa never won it but they lost it!!

He made Stallone look a good actor in Escape to Victory

Hahaha excellent
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 20, 2018, 09:29:43 PM
Need more than me mate bosic right now but hate Ipswich towns attitude towards us so lets stuff em
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 20, 2018, 09:30:25 PM
0-0 thriller
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on April 20, 2018, 09:49:29 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.

If you ever hear John Wark, he's still bitter about it stating that Villa never won it but they lost it!!

He made Stallone look a good actor in Escape to Victory

Hahaha excellent


In 1981 Paul Cooper, Kevin Beattie , Russell Osman, John Wark and Kevin O'Callaghan beat the Germans in Escape To Victory.

In 1982 Nigel Spink, Allan Evans, Ken McNaught, Gordon Cowans and Tony Morley beat the Germans in the European Cup final.

In the interest of balance and fairness they should show Escape To Victory on BBC1 every Boxing Day and the 1982 European Cup final on ITV every Boxing Day.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 20, 2018, 10:37:35 PM
We will forever owe these bumpkins one for Mick Mills’ weasely behaviour after that famous game at VP. Away win.
The 1-2 ?
what did Mills do?

If I recall correctly, basically took the piss, telling our lads they’d won the league, blah blah blah. He genuinely believed they’d won the league that night. The fool.
That was the game that prompted
"Do you want to bet against us"
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 20, 2018, 11:10:09 PM
Draw

We’re basically guaranteed to finish fourth and that will show, with the priority being sharpness for the play offs
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 20, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Think we'll nick it given Ipswich don't have a manager. Certainly won't be a classic, 0-1 would be my guess off a set piece.

At least Derby and Millwall will have big game feels as looks like we'll be getting 40k for Derby and them and Millwall both have chances of top 6 so I think tomorrow will be a bit of a low key end of season feel and the next two will hopefully get us sharp for the play offs.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 20, 2018, 11:30:19 PM
It doesn't really matter. Suspect this will have all the drama of a preseason game
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on April 21, 2018, 07:21:34 AM
Ipswich are on the Beach.

Sizewell, probably.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on April 21, 2018, 07:41:32 AM
This is a very important game for us. It's all about form and momentum now. Every player should be busting a gut to be selected. 0-3 to us and do it in style.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on April 21, 2018, 07:53:13 AM
I see Ipswich are 9/2 and we are 3/4 today. Don't think i'll be backing us at those short odds.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on April 21, 2018, 09:00:00 AM
1-0 win.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on April 21, 2018, 09:47:39 AM
0-2
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on April 21, 2018, 10:36:41 AM
This is a very important game for us. It's all about form and momentum now. Every player should be busting a gut to be selected. 0-3 to us and do it in style.

I agree about the importance of today's game, but I'm not sharing your optimism of a 0-3 victory. I obviously hope you're right, mind - and we don't labour to the bore-draw that I'm predicting.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 21, 2018, 10:51:00 AM
It doesn't really matter. Suspect this will have all the drama of a preseason game


We are going to win 7 of our next 8 games. We might slip up against Millwall with a draw.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on April 21, 2018, 11:14:36 AM
I see Ipswich are 9/2 and we are 3/4 today. Don't think i'll be backing us at those short odds.

Can't imagine the Ipswich players will be too bothered today. Id give Bree a shot at right back, bring in Davis up front. Snodgrass and Elmo to rest up.

Johnstone, Bree, Jedi, Chester, Taylor, Adamoah, Whelan, Onomoah, Grabban, Grealish, Davis.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on April 21, 2018, 11:37:18 AM
2-1 to us. Davis with the winner.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 21, 2018, 11:53:55 AM
This is a game that will not live long in the memory.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on April 21, 2018, 11:54:39 AM
0-3 to us.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 21, 2018, 12:06:45 PM
Alan Brazil’s debut for Manure at old trafford is still a subject of great mirth and gave rise to the expression” couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo”
It was like watching a space hopper with legs in a red shirt.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on April 21, 2018, 01:01:33 PM
I see Ipswich are 9/2 and we are 3/4 today. Don't think i'll be backing us at those short odds.

Can't imagine the Ipswich players will be too bothered today. Id give Bree a shot at right back, bring in Davis up front. Snodgrass and Elmo to rest up.

Johnstone, Bree, Jedi, Chester, Taylor, Adamoah, Whelan, Onomoah, Grabban, Grealish, Davis.


I like that side Bronte.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on April 21, 2018, 01:14:50 PM
Ipswich expecting a large crowd today as they have reduced prices (anyone under 19 in for £1).
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on April 21, 2018, 01:45:21 PM
At the station hotel opposite the ground, in the sun, great day so far.
Title: Re: 1981 Runners-Up v 1981 Champions Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on April 21, 2018, 01:52:56 PM
Couldn't make it today as i'm working. Working near Cleobury Mortimer and it is absolutely pissing down here.
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