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Title: The next four games...
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 13, 2018, 11:58:33 PM
I took a look at the recent form of the top 8 clubs and projected results for the best four games. Nothing overly scientific but I think by the time we’ve beaten the Noses at Villa Park we will have closed the gap on Derby to 2 points and will be sitting in 3rd.

Wolves - 72 (have a cup game also)

Forest H - 3
Ipswich A - 1
Sheff Utd H - 3
QPR H - 3

Derby - 59

Bristol City H - 3
Millwall A - 0
Brentford H - 1
Norwich H - 3

Aston Villa - 57

Barnsley H - 3
Sheff Utd A - 1
Burton H - 3
Birmingham H - 3

Cardiff - 54 (have a cup game also)

Sheff Wed A - 0
Bolton H - 3
Leeds A - 0
Millwall A - 1

Bristol C - 51 (have a cup game also)

Derby A - 0
QPR H - 1
Bolton A - 1
Sunderland H - 3

Leeds - 50

Millwall H - 3
Hull A - 0
Cardiff A - 3
Sheff Utd A - 1

Fulham - 50

Burton H - 3
Barnsley A - 1
Forest H - 3
Bolton A - 1

Sheff Utd - 46 (have a cup game also)

Preston H - 1
Villa H - 1
Wolves A - 0
Leeds H - 1


Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Damo70 on January 14, 2018, 12:24:03 AM
If we can get nine points from a possible twelve by winning those three 'winable' home games I think only Wolves and Derby might equal or better that.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: tomd2103 on January 14, 2018, 01:07:53 AM
With Sheffield United struggling a bit, I'd hope for a really good return from these next four games.  Ten or possibly even 12 points, should firmly cement our position in the play offs and hopefully cub the gap to the automatic spots right down. 
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: ozzjim on January 14, 2018, 01:43:27 AM
We should be looking at 12.

Derby will get 10 from those though.

Cardiff will get 6. They will either win or lose games, not draw them.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 14, 2018, 08:56:24 AM
The form book says we could get 12 points, or at least 9 or 10. Easy.
The problem is, this is football and whoever we play (good or bad) the bastards still spend the whole game trying to stop us getting those points.   

   
 
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Nastylee on January 14, 2018, 09:53:47 AM
Derby have been good but looking at who they have played recently so they should. Most of the teams are bottom half so they have tests to come and I am sure they will drop points. It sounds simple, but we just need to go on another run of 12-15 matches and put them under pressure. It's fine beating Blose when you're 5 points clear. What about when it's 1 or 2 and pressure starts to bite? We'll see.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 14, 2018, 01:11:03 PM
The major issue I have with Steve Bruce is that  he looks at a cluster of games.  I prefer to look at one at a time.  By the way the games immediately after Barnsley are definitely not nailed on. 
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: tomd2103 on January 14, 2018, 04:05:45 PM
The form book says we could get 12 points, or at least 9 or 10. Easy.
The problem is, this is football and whoever we play (good or bad) the bastards still spend the whole game trying to stop us getting those points.   

 

We are going to have to go on that kind of run or maybe even a longer one at some point if we are going to go up automatically,
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Ads on January 14, 2018, 04:53:23 PM
13 more wins needed. Win the next four, as we have a good shout of doing so and we will set ourselves right up to go up automatically.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 14, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
Millwall got a great home record haven't they, I'm optimistic Derby will struggle to win there.

Also means I'd prefer second is settled before the final day as that game will be very tough to win if Millwall need something to stay up. You saw the effort they put in at VP and we really struggled against that.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 14, 2018, 06:58:24 PM
A close mate is a big derby fan. He’s worried cause they have not had their ‘bad patch’ of form/run yet. He’s convinced it’s going to happen.
It really could come down to our game at VP though!
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Ads on January 14, 2018, 07:43:38 PM
Bristol and Millwall away won't be easy. Could do with them dropping a few points while we win to ensure pressure plays a part.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 14, 2018, 07:48:46 PM
A minimum or 8; very happy with 10. 
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: olaftab on January 14, 2018, 07:53:32 PM
11 points at minimum.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on January 14, 2018, 08:02:42 PM
Spoke to a Blue Nose today (a rare, decent level-headed one) who reckons Derby were nothing special yesterday and he can see them falling away. He said Derby scored break away goals at key moments but Small Heath dominated for long spells.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: LeeB on January 14, 2018, 08:20:08 PM
Derby having a second half of the season collapse has been a club ritual for some time. It’s hard to shake that kind of thing off.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Malandro on January 14, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
Spoke to a Blue Nose today (a rare, decent level-headed one)


I'm happy to support you through your magic mushroom withdrawal.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 14, 2018, 08:32:55 PM
Spoke to a Blue Nose today (a rare, decent level-headed one) who reckons Derby were nothing special yesterday and he can see them falling away. He said Derby scored break away goals at key moments but Small Heath dominated for long spells.


It's a Rowett team so they're not likely to dominate possession even against the worst teams in the league.

They play in a similar style to us really. Could mean we both last the pace while more eye catching teams like Bristol fall away a bit.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 14, 2018, 09:31:04 PM
11 points at minimum.
😁
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: tomd2103 on January 14, 2018, 10:12:44 PM
Spoke to a Blue Nose today (a rare, decent level-headed one) who reckons Derby were nothing special yesterday and he can see them falling away. He said Derby scored break away goals at key moments but Small Heath dominated for long spells.

Yep, sounds like them.  You can never beat Blues, only score more goals them. 
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 14, 2018, 10:59:12 PM
Spoke to a Blue Nose today (a rare, decent level-headed one) who reckons Derby were nothing special yesterday and he can see them falling away. He said Derby scored break away goals at key moments but Small Heath dominated for long spells.

Yep, sounds like them.  You can never beat Blues, only score more goals them. 

To their credit, they are actually fighting for their lives, even against Derby according to reports, they never gave up. Saying that, a defeat against us will probably put an end to that. It will be a tough game but a game we should win.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 15, 2018, 09:33:56 AM
To the folks predicting a 10-12 point tally from the next four, when have we ever gone on a run like that when it really counts?

I think we'll lose to Sheffield United and win at least two of the home games, so I'll say 7-9 points.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 15, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
To the folks predicting a 10-12 point tally from the next four, when have we ever gone on a run like that when it really counts?



November/December 2017. Don't lose on Saturday and it'll be now.
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: johnc on January 15, 2018, 10:00:32 AM
We should beat Sheffield Utd. They are useless. However we let them back from 2-0 down I don't know
Title: Re: The next four games...
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
Redid my projections after today

Wolves - 69

Forest H - 0 LOST
Ipswich A - 1
Sheff Utd H - 3
QPR H - 3

Derby - 57

Bristol City H - 1 DREW
Millwall A - 0
Brentford H - 1
Norwich H - 3

Aston Villa - 57

Barnsley H - 3 WON
Sheff Utd A - 1
Burton H - 3
Birmingham H - 3

Cardiff - 55

Sheff Wed A - 1 CURRENTLY DRAWING
Bolton H - 3
Leeds A - 0
Millwall A - 1

Bristol C - 52

Derby A - 1 DREW
QPR H - 1
Bolton A - 1
Sunderland H - 3

Fulham - 50

Burton H - 3 WON
Barnsley A - 1
Forest H - 3
Bolton A - 1

Sheff Utd - 48

Preston H - 3 WON
Villa H - 1
Wolves A - 0
Leeds H - 1

Leeds - 47

Millwall H - 0 LOST
Hull A - 0
Cardiff A - 3
Sheff Utd A - 1
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