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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 23, 2017, 04:31:13 PM
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Win please Villa.
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Well, like last week it might not keep the ball all that well but could be dangerous if they can spring the fast players on the break.
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First bit done. Well done Steve for not fucking about with the team after a good win.
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Best team available so happy with that.
Grealish, Green, Lansbury, Jedinak, RDL and RHM all to be added to the mix over the coming weeks hopefully.
We really shoud be Top 6 with a fully fit squad !
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expected that team ..
good first 11
how dos Bjork get on the bench?
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Top 3 all winning fairly late on was a blow, thought we might have the chance to make up a bit of ground on them.
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2 goal win and we go 9th.
Really looking forward to this. Come on Villa, take the chance you've got this week and grasp it with both hands.
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Still prefer Onomah instead of Whelan in the middle.
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Nice strating XI , but the bench looks shit.
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Can't have any complaints with that lineup, so just hope he sets them up in the right way and we go on the front foot.
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Win today we go 9th or 10th and only two points off the play offs. Don't fuck it up Villa.
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Nice strating XI , but the bench looks shit.
How does it compare to Forest's though? Which of these would you rather be on our bench instead of theirs Lichaj, Mancienne, Osborn, Clough, Carayol, Henderson, Cummings. And remember how many players we have to come back into our squad.
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Looks a bit too attacking for me. Only Whelan can hold (naturally). Does Adomah play more narrowly in this formation?
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Nice strating XI , but the bench looks shit.
How does it compare to Forest's though? Which of these would you rather be on our bench instead of theirs Lichaj, Mancienne, Osborn, Clough, Carayol, Henderson, Cummings. And remember how many players we have to come back into our squad.
From what we have at our disposal, the bench looks shit.
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Come on you massive wankers, make us happy.
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Come on you massive wankers, make us happy.
Like he said!!
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Nice strating XI , but the bench looks shit.
How does it compare to Forest's though? Which of these would you rather be on our bench instead of theirs Lichaj, Mancienne, Osborn, Clough, Carayol, Henderson, Cummings. And remember how many players we have to come back into our squad.
From what we have at our disposal, the bench looks shit.
So it is better than the team we're playing and we have a number of players to come back that are currently unavailable. I bet they're weren't many, if any, benches in the division today that were better. Just because by our standards of the past it's crap, doesn't mean it is for where we, sadly, currently are.
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Looks a bit too attacking for me. Only Whelan can hold (naturally). Does Adomah play more narrowly in this formation?
Looks too attacking? Good better than a defensive set up at home.
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I think it's basically defensive as it's not meant to keep the ball, but sit in and look to break.
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We have to win just to keep the status quo with the top 2!
When is it Cardiff are supposed to start sliding down the table?
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We're going to bumverise them.
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Just get the win!!
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Come on Villa!
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Are there any PMs with any of those links? I'd be most grateful for one.
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Got a feeling this will be pivotal. Win and we can start talking promotion prospects. Don't and it might set us too far back.
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Didn't Whelan play midweek?
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Good presence Davis
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We've had this squad of players for a while, one of the most expensive in this league and we should be in the top 6. It's the manager's style of play that's the problem and his regular changing the team around.
Hopefully with today's team he's learnt a lesson from our previous league game and we can expect another 3 or 4 goals.
UTV
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Disappointing to see so many empty seats. Come on Villa!
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Nice strating XI , but the bench looks shit.
How does it compare to Forest's though? Which of these would you rather be on our bench instead of theirs Lichaj, Mancienne, Osborn, Clough, Carayol, Henderson, Cummings. And remember how many players we have to come back into our squad.
From what we have at our disposal, the bench looks shit.
So it is better than the team we're playing and we have a number of players to come back that are currently unavailable. I bet they're weren't many, if any, benches in the division today that were better. Just because by our standards of the past it's crap, doesn't mean it is for where we, sadly, currently are.
Samba? Hutton?
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What about them? How does Forest's 3rd or 4th choice RB measure up to Hutton for example?
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Can anyone PM a link please mine has stopped working.
Cheers
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What about them? How does Forest's 3rd or 4th choice RB measure up to Hutton for example?
What I'm saying is we have better options than those two has beens, not what those nuggets have on their bench, poor start too! UTV
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Can I be the first to jerk my knee and demand Warburton to replace Bruce?!
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YESSS! 1-0 Adomah!
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What about them? How does Forest's 3rd or 4th choice RB measure up to Hutton for example?
What I'm saying is we have better options than those two has beens, not what those nuggets have on their bench, poor start too! UTV
I assume RDL is injured again, feck knows where Bree is. Add them, Jack, Jedi, even Gabby and we have a bench anyone in this division would want.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
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Quality Kodja
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Well worked Goal
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Uncle Albert and the old Kodjia combine.
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Can I be the first to jerk my knee and demand Warburton to replace Bruce?!
He knows how to earn a crust.
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WARBURTON OUT!
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GET IN! (Sorry watching on Sky Go...)
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Bonsoir ! Aston Villa Un Nottingham Forêt Zéro.
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Just when we were settling into our usual play of letting forest run the game, Kodija comes up with the quality. Nice goal Adomah.
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Woohoo!
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GET IN! (Sorry watching on Sky Go...)
I got that free on my mobile when I upgraded and it's about a year behind the actual action.
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That's the kind of through ball that any striker would feast off especially the likes of Kodjia and Hogan. Our midfield needs to do that more often to our forwards.
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GET IN! (Sorry watching on Sky Go...)
You're lucky, I was watching for updates on BBC text....
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GET IN! (Sorry watching on Sky Go...)
You're lucky, I was watching for updates on BBC text....
You're lucky,I was following this thread
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You're all lucky, i'm stood outside Radio Rentals watching on Ceefax.
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Looking perfectly decent so far.
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Sky Go is about 45 seconds behind live. Not sure why as it is using exactly the same Wifi as my TV would...
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Kodjia is just the smartest, strongest, technically best and possibly fastest player we have. He's way too good for the division.
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This does show the difference having a player who's genuinely too good for this level makes. If Bruce does hang on to his job and get us into the play offs (or better) he'll owe a huge amount of gratitude to Kodjia.
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Snodgrass way offside??
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AJ Auxerre won 2-0 last night, the Catalan Dragons need to win today to stay in the Super League, Aston Villa need to win 3-0 today to make it a hat trick of sporting joy. And because, as Paulie noted, they are massive wankers.
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Kodjia is just the smartest, strongest, technically best and possibly fastest player we have. He's way too good for the division.
And the majority of this Villa team
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You're all lucky, i'm stood outside Radio Rentals watching on Ceefax.
Nostalgic glow...
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I had a pint in a Biggleswade pub in about 1982. I shall return to offer the town burghers a stipend in gratitude for their progeny Keinan.
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Snodgrass way offside??
Not directly involved at that point
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Uncle Albert is a very important wheel in this team, no mistake.
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Snodgrass way offside??
Not directly involved at that point
But certainly he would be getting marked.
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Uncle Albert is a very important wheel in this team, no mistake.
Is he our top scorer this season?
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Uncle Albert is a very important wheel in this team, no mistake.
Is he our top scorer this season?
Hourihane, I think.
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That's the kind of through ball that any striker would feast off especially the likes of Kodjia and Hogan. Our midfield needs to do that more often to our forwards.
This.
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How could I forget Hot Lips?
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Should have been 2
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Ohh that could have been lovely second :)
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Uncle Albert is a very important wheel in this team, no mistake.
Is he our top scorer this season?
Hourihane, I think.
4 each if you count all games.
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Adomah has had a very good half
Interesting free kick now
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Forest are just constantly playing themselves into trouble here.
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Forest are just constantly playing themselves into trouble here.
I think we dodged a bullet with Warburton.
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Forest are just constantly playing themselves into trouble here.
I think we dodged a bullet with Warburton.
I don't know, I think the style's good if you have the players, which we might. Forest, however, clearly don't, and it does show a failure to adapt and change for sure.
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Was quite exciting waiting for an update on BBC text after saying we had a dangerous freekick. Shocked that ankle snapper Bridcutt has picked up a booking.
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You're all lucky, i'm stood outside Radio Rentals watching on Ceefax.
Did I just bump into you as I came out of Nelson House?
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Forest look as mentally weak as we've been in the last few years, they started ok and were moving the ball well but as soon as we scored they looked terrified of committing players forward and stopped running off the ball.
We should be 2-3 up already, they really were there for the taking.
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We have got into some good positions but deliveries havent been good enough. Forest look pretty average but we have been here so many times before so need a second to ensure no last minute calamaties
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I would be livid if I was a forest fan, they just dont look like they can be bothered to break into a run.
Pleased with us so far! Very nice.
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Pretty decent first half. They had the ball a little too much for my liking but we look very compact at the back. Terry/Chester appear to be forming a very solid relationship.
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Need a second but sounds decent.
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Clearly superior, now GET THE POINTS.
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Forest look as mentally weak as we've been in the last few years, they started ok and were moving the ball well but as soon as we scored they looked terrified of committing players forward and stopped running off the ball.
We should be 2-3 up already, they really were there for the taking.
That's exactly how I see it.
Good to see Kodjia back and looking dangerous. Would like to see Hourihane pushing forward a bit more, too.
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Very comfortable. Need to come out in the 2nd half and put a very average Forest to the sword
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1-1 all over this.
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Forest look as mentally weak as we've been in the last few years, they started ok and were moving the ball well but as soon as we scored they looked terrified of committing players forward and stopped running off the ball.
We should be 2-3 up already, they really were there for the taking.
One all it will be then!
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Happy with the first half, Forest heads dropped as soon as we scored and they are making poor mistakes. More of the same in the second half please.
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Goes without saying we need to ensure that we get more out of our control of the game. Whelan and Hourihane are a bit too deep and defensive. We don't need that. May be replace Whelan with Onomah. We need a bit more urgency and middle two need to push up more. Their number 31 looks useful other than that complacency is our worst enemy.
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Forest put in a very Villa like performance perhaps that was their bad half. Not bad from us but we need a 2nd.
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Goes without saying we need to ensure that we get more out of our control of the game. Whelan and Hourihane are a bit too deep and defensive. We don't need that. May be replace Whelan with Onomah. We need a bit more urgency and middle two need to push up more. Their number 31 looks useful other than that complacency is our worst enemy.
No chance he'll do that while we're winning.
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Goes without saying we need to ensure that we get more out of our control of the game. Whelan and Hourihane are a bit too deep and defensive. We don't need that. May be replace Whelan with Onomah. We need a bit more urgency and middle two need to push up more. Their number 31 looks useful other than that complacency is our worst enemy.
I must be watching a different game to you, I don't think Whelan and Hourihane are too deep otherwise we would have been overrun in the middle of the pitch. Replace them and need more urgency? Jeez we must be losing.
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Thought they were going to spank us after the first 15 minutes, everything playing in our half but Uncle Albert and the Old Codger changed all that.
I think Whelan has had a cracking first half, breaking up almost everything, covering for Elmo when he was being targeted and keeping the ball moving. Hope that was our shit half.
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Score two goals and we go ninth.
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1-1 all over this.
Please no. I would prefer a nice 3-0 win with Bruce taunting me for being hysterical afterwards thank you very much :)
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I am shitting myself. 1-0 up with 45 minutes to go and we are the Villa.
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Not bad at all after a worrying start.
I know what tends to happen when we go into the break one up, though.
On the bright side, I have a tenner on villa ahead half time but losing the match at 38/1.
Which means we will get a point at least
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Get another clean sheet and we have won. How many minutes now without conceding?
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This team remind me of us under MON - we're good when we're winning. Let's hope that continues.
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We seem to be switched off in the second half thus far this season.This needs to change and hopefuly today is the start of this.
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Catalan Dragons are level 4-4 at home to Widnes. 2nd half has just started.
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Get another clean sheet and we have won. How many minutes now without conceding?
Oi Jinxy Jeremy!
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It will probably come down to manager changes. We shall see how much Bruce has grown into this job after Warburton makes changes.
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Sky Go is about 45 seconds behind live. Not sure why as it is using exactly the same Wifi as my TV would...
I only realised this when the BBC Sport app on my phone told me Adomah had scored. On the laptop, I think the ball was still in our half ffs!
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Get another clean sheet and we have won. How many minutes now without conceding?
345 mins plus injury times.
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Last time I saw a team voluntarily start with 10 men was us vs Sunderland.... that ended well, fingers crossed this one does as well :)
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Forest respected us far too much in the first half and now have probably just realised they're playing us.
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Bollocks. 1-1.
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It would be useful for us to touch the all at some point in this half.
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Get another clean sheet and we have won. How many minutes now without conceding?
345 mins plus injury times.
🙄
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Wank.
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That's been coming.
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We're going to do a Villa, aren't we?
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How many attempts to tackle him? Ffs
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Jesus. Not again.
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Oh dear
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How many fuckin times are we going to have these conversations. Whelan played it to him the Cnut.
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Quelle surprise
Its gone to fucking dogturd
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I see the usual is happening They score and look like they're going to score more
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I know what tends to happen when we go into the break one up, though.
Yup.
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We could do worse than getting Warburton in.
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Hanging on now
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Bruce worked his magic at half-time again I see.
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Lucky not to be behind.
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Was just about to say it's got Hull written all over it agreement with some posts on the other page. There is absolutely no way we're going to win this match now.
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You'd fucking think we were playing Barcelona with Iniesta and Xavi running things
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One day he'll learn that when you have the players we have, counter attacking football at home is shit.
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powder puff from Terry for their goal
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dozy. lethargic fuckers
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No doubt another Bruce motivational stirring team talk at half time
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One day he'll learn that when you have the players we have, counter attacking football at home is shit.
He sent them out to defend the lead for the first 15 and instead we've provided them all of the momentum and confidence.
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As usual. No reaction to the goal
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One day he'll learn that when you have the players we have, counter attacking football at home is shit.
When he's writing his memoirs hopefully soon.
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Fuck me when were we last in their half?
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Totally stopped playing.
So fucking predictable.
This is about confidence, and that's the manager's job.
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Here we fucking go.
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Bruce has been here; Bruce knows this league..
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It never feels like we have enough time to get another goal in these games.
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If we don't win he needs to be fired.
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Most of our goals have been conceded in the 15 mins after HT, what does the fat get say to them?
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6 goals conceded between the 45-60 minutes this season.
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FUCKING GET IN!! Hourihane freekick 2-1.
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Gett Innnn
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Get in
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Bruce has been here; Bruce knows this league..
Get in!
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It never feels like we have enough time to get another goal in these games.
Except when we do, of course.
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Bloody Hell! 😃
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Wonderful free kick.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIO
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really poor goalkeeping that but thank fuck for it.
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Bosh! Thank feck for that.
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mad ting 8)
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Fucking stunner from Conor
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outstanding goal
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It was a cynical foul. I'm glad it was punished. Taking one for the team ha
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His only tactic really is to hope one of our players pulls off some magic, fortunately for him we have enough quality individuals that it happens often enough to keep him in a job.
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As usual. No reaction to the goal
Yup.
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Get in now get a fucking third.
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Time to get Samba on.
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Ok maybe there is a way. I now recommend 10 men behind the ball at all times.
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Now fucking win it you useless set of wankers.
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Kodjia had so much to do with that. He took matters into his own hands and forced that free kick.
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Mills shoulda been sent off for trying to kick Keinan's head in that hissy fit.
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That Mills is a shithouse.
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Kodjia had so much to do with that. He took matters into his own hands and forced that free kick.
Agree good play from The Kodge.
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That was a let off.
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Chester & Terry & Whelan being bossed again by Ipswich reject Murphy. FFS.
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Time to get Samba on.
No way, Davis and Kodja are doing fine for now.
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Chester & Terry & Whelan being bossed again by Ipswich reject Murphy. FFS.
I know what your point is, but I think him leaving Ipswich for Newcastle was hardly a step down.
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Get the fucking win Villa.
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Chester & Terry & Whelan being bossed again by Ipswich reject Murphy. FFS.
I know what your point is, but I think him leaving Ipswich for Newcastle was hardly a step down.
To be a substitute who only made 14 league appearances.
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Time to get Samba on.
No way, Davis and Kodja are doing fine for now.
*chuckle*
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Can we not just break Murphy's leg? All their chances seem to be from him.
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really poor goalkeeping that but thank fuck for it.
I don't see how that was bad goalkeeping when it curled around the wall at pace and not on the side the keeper was defending.
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Back to one up front at home.
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Back to one up front at home.
Don't worry when they equalise he'll bring Hogan on
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I take it we have to be on tenterhooks right to the end.
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When are we going to Villa this up?
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Back to one up front at home.
Don't worry when they equalise he'll bring Hogan Samba on
Fixed.
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When are we going to Villa this up?
Bruce is doing his best to keep us on tenterhooks
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Back to one up front at home.
Don't worry when they equalise he'll bring Hogan Samba on
Fixed.
Ha!
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Whelan is so poor.
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Is it me or is snodgrass not that good?
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really poor goalkeeping that but thank fuck for it.
I don't see how that was bad goalkeeping when it curled around the wall at pace and not on the side the keeper was defending.
For me if a free kick beats you at ground level and isn't right into the corner then you've either got your wall wrong or your positioning wrong.
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Free kick my a**e
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Glen Whelan is such a liability
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Is it me or is snodgrass not that good?
I'm surprised how completely one dimensional he is.
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Hogan comes on for Kodjia.
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Is it me or is snodgrass not that good?
He's been at BMH long enough now to have absorbed the Villa training regime. Any desire and enthusiasm knocked out of him
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Is it me or is snodgrass not that good?
I'm surprised how completely one dimensional he is.
I thought he was pretty average last week.
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Wor Steve is carrying some lumber again.
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Is that Isaiah Osbourne playing for them?
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We're gonna concede.
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Bloody hell!!
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Why on Earth are our players so knackered?!?
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How the fuck is Whelan still on the pitch?
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Is it me or is snodgrass not that good?
I'm surprised how completely one dimensional he is.
I thought he was pretty average last week.
Very one paced to say the least.
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We've really ridden our luck this game.
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Here comes The equaliser
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Pocchechino must be shit scared we've removed any value Onomah had overnight.
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Well done Sam
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We've really ridden our luck this game.
We've been massively average. Again.
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Sam to the rescue
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really poor goalkeeping that but thank fuck for it.
I don't see how that was bad goalkeeping when it curled around the wall at pace and not on the side the keeper was defending.
For me if a free kick beats you at ground level and isn't right into the corner then you've either got your wall wrong or your positioning wrong.
And that's why your not a goalkeeping coach.
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It's important to win games when you're not at your best. Unfortunately we haven't been at our best for 7 years.
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This ploy of letting them have the ball will bite us on the arse when we play the better teams in the league.
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Yay Hutton...
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Why does every manager we've had since 2006 resort to deep defence in the last 15-20 minutes of a game? - it drives me mad.
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really poor goalkeeping that but thank fuck for it.
I don't see how that was bad goalkeeping when it curled around the wall at pace and not on the side the keeper was defending.
For me if a free kick beats you at ground level and isn't right into the corner then you've either got your wall wrong or your positioning wrong.
And that's why your not a goalkeeping coach.
Nor are the commentators it appears, whereas you are clearly an expert.
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We've really ridden our luck this game.
We've been massively average. Again.
You're just being hysterical, trust in Steve ;)
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Hutton if anyone's going to gift them the equaliser it's him
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With no Kod or Davis on the pitch, the ball just keeps coming back at us. Elmo and Snodgrass have clocked out too. Please please win , Villa!
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This ploy of letting them have the ball will bite us on the arse when we play the better teams in the league.
Absolutely.
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Hutton if anyone's going to gift them the equaliser it's him
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I think Whelen is the worst for it. Shame Jedinak seems to be dying.
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Standard 4 minutes
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Neither of these 2 sides look like promotion standard.
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How has Mills only just been booked, has done about 8 fouls?
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Adomah been excellent this game.
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Wow we looked good there for 20 seconds
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Chill out. There is a 2 in the us column and a 1 in the them column with 0 seconds to go.
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Happy with the 3 points.
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TFFT
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Thank fook for that.
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Bummed.
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A win but that's about it. Hopeless at keeping possession.
But they do say that successful teams can win even when they play rubbish.
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Better, 2 wins from the next two and we're probably about where we would liked to be at that point.
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1st half should have been clear, 2nd... lucky not to lose, but... its 3 points.
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Bummed.
Yeah but what about the game?
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Sounds like we had a bit of luck, but probably not as much as Forest had in both games against us last year.
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Sounds like we had a bit of luck, but probably not as much as Forest had in both games against us last year.
I think we did enough to win it (just) but we will of course play better teams this season and if we lose Kodjia and or Amomah for any length of time we're fooked. They give us the pace and directness that gives you a chance of goals, and they both finish well too.
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Bummed.
Yeah but what about the game?
What game?